Free will and aging: Sims out of control !!!

[JujuTS2]

Hi,

I like to control everything my sims did in each families.

But the problem, the unused sims still do autonomously things when they are visitors.

Imagine in TS3 when you switch to another family, your sims continue to live and age so if you play too much with a family, when you come back your toddler sim is now an elder sim with a lot of stupid events in the memory !

I don't know if they continue to age until the death but that mean it will be more difficult to manage several families at the same time.

[kennyinbmore]

Hi,

I like to control everything my sims did in each families.

But the problem, the unused sims still do autonomously things when they are visitors.

Imagine in TS3 when you switch to another family, your sims continue to live and age so if you play too much with a family, when you come back your toddler sim is now an elder sim with a lot of stupid events in the memory !

I don't know if they continue to age until the death but that mean it will be more difficult to manage several families at the same time.

This is from http://simcitytimes.blogspot.com/

"Feel free to experiment with leaving the family do their thing overnight while you sleep. You might see some interesting results. (Free will turned up of course)."

and

"Free Will has three settings, Off, Low and High. Low is emergency only, High is how it's like in Sims 2."

Just from the way that "the family," is worded, I think it means each family individually, the specific family you choose to play. At least that's how it seems.
http://forums.sims-community.com/showthread.php?t=66184

[KyleTheArtist]

That's why don't want top play sims 3

[janedoe]

Let's wait to we are playing the game before we think this who knows it may not be bad at all. I was upset about it, but who knows it may work well.

[Nova]

That concern has already been addressed. I think EA relized how anal some players are about micromanaging and put the ageing, story progression and free will options in the game just for that. It will be great for story telling too.

[Brook_Lynn_Marie]

Your able to put each individual family on hold so they wont age or have big events happen in your life while you play other families basically like playing the sims2. Or you can turn the whole neighborhoods story progression off.

[blackdaisies]

This is an interesting concept, and I feel the same as JujuTS2... however, I am also intrigued by it and want to see how it works out. Not having the rabbit hole will be pretty helpful... that is, if I'm to understand it, there should be no loading times jumping in between families.

There were a lot of weird things I didn't like when I first learned about the details of Sims 2 when I was playing the original Sims. I didn't like the idea of aging, to begin with. Who wanted to see your favourite Sims grow old and die??? But soon enough I found that gameplay was more interesting when your Sims had a timeline.

[JujuTS2]

Sadly, the sims of TS3 will be as stupid as the ones of TS2.

If they was able to learn some custom behavior, I let them to be a little more autonomous but it's not case.

[MrMan212]

This would be good to me because I think it is hard and takes to long to take care of all my families.

[pinkmonkey]

Sadly, the sims of TS3 will be as stupid as the ones of TS2.

If they was able to learn some custom behavior, I let them to be a little more autonomous but it's not case.
How exactly do you know this? Have you played TS3 yet?

[Nova]

Sadly, the sims of TS3 will be as stupid as the ones of TS2.

If they was able to learn some custom behavior, I let them to be a little more autonomous but it's not case.
Uh, where did you get that from? The sims team has made the whole "smart sim" thing a big deal and has tried to show that from the begining. There's even a video about the smarter AI where sims live out their lives and cook and clean on their own without the player even having to tell them to do so.
So no they won't be just as dumb as the sims from the TS2. Thank goddness because I wouldn't buy the game if they were just as stupid. lol

[Celebriton]

In some of the MJ Chun interview, she said this is the risk EA takes to make opened neighborhood and everyone grow up together. Since there are many of sims fans want those features.


About the freewill.

The high setting, I read some article, they are smarter than The Sims 2 AI. Some of UK site, tell how your sims behave when first time enter the house. They immediately doing something based on their traits. They also take care of toddler by himself without our command. Just leave your sims alone and he will life without you from behind the screen.

In IGN AI trailer, your sims can manage to make a house party, clean the house, preparing the BBQ, doing their hobby, even flirting and find love. All action based on their traits, so there some action will not performed if the traits is different. Some will beyond the line, like automatically organize party for party animal sims, always find love for hopeless romantic sims, even makes affair for committed issue sims, etc.

The low setting is what I don't understand much. Are they just standing idle for a long time until need to go to toilet? And just respond to other sims who initiate to talk to him first?

Despite about the problem from the first post above, overall I love this new system. I can't wait to see some drama.

[higgins534_SC]

The low setting is what I don't understand much. Are they just standing idle for a long time until need to go to toilet? And just respond to other sims who initiate to talk to him first?


I believe the Low Setting is where Sims address needs, and socialise, go to work etc. but don't make any major life decisions (have baby, get married etc.)

[jewaukeela]

aaarrrggghhh i cant wait until june! okay, sorry. anyway, i heard somewhere that sims 3 you cant go to the neighborhood view because there is none! its like each neighborhood has a directing sim that you can use to walk or jog around the neighborhood... that'd be kinda cool, dont you think?

[wycked]

I do not think the goal in the Sims 3 is the same as the Sims 2. I think the goal is more like Sim City and its sequels where the player manages the city or town or village. But unlike Sim City, the player is allowed to zoom in and change mini-people's lives. So, while playing the Sims 2 is more like a dollhouse, playing the Sims 3 will be more like playing as the omnipotent mayor.
And this is one of the things I don't like about Sims 3 and what I view as a potential flopp. Because the (main) reason The Sims has been such a success is (in my opinion) the whole 'playing dollhouse' and the way we can micro manage our sims lives. We (most of us anyway) love the control we have over their lives and to see them evolve and grow up, watching and controlling them every step on the way. This way we learn to care about our sims too and it's easier to immerse ourselves in the game. Having them live their own lives make them more anonymeous and we won't care as much for them anymore, which in turn will make it harder to immerse oneself in the game.
However, if we are SimCity players and not Sims 2 players, then we could look at the game in a different viewpoint.
I enjoy playing SimCity very much for the building and strategy, The Sims I play for the human touch. If the human touch dissappear then the game will loose it's point for me.

I've come to the conclusion that I don't really want The Sims 3. What I want is Sims 2.5. I want better graphics, the traits and one or two other things, -like the enhanced build mode that lets us build better houses and that nifty tool that lets us make matching furniture etc. The rest they can keep :)

[higgins534_SC]

Wycked:

Well turn off Story Progression (and even Free Will), and there you have it...The Sims 2.5

[JujuTS2]

Wycked

I totally agree with you ! You really understand my feelings !