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11th Jan 2009, 12:00 PM
Hey guys, I have a experience to share and let me how you feel about what a high school teacheer did.
My sister, aged 14, was asked to bring in a few pictures of her favorite music artists for her chorus class. She did as she was told and posted the pictures in the back of the room on the wall of fame. Well, in the following days, two more boards were added, the wall of shame and the wall of why. The wall of shame was for artist that you thought were horrible and the wall of why was for artists that you thought shouldn't even try. Then, all of her pictures were moved from the Wall Of Fame to the Wall of Shame and then to the Wall of Why.
Now, here is my look on it. It was an assignment to bring in who ever you thaught was a good artist, and she brought in a icture of Pete Wentz and Brendon Urie, but that is complete irevelent. I have to ask, what was the true purpose of the two other walls? In an art/music class, you are supposed to be able to express yourself freely and that is what I got for the purpose of this excerise is so everyone can share what they like and appricate others taste. But instead, it turns to a brutal competition of who is better than who. I don't know, what do you guys think?
Bites and Kisses
11th Jan 2009, 2:50 PM
Oh wow, Who was the person moving them? If it was the Teacher then thats messed up, man!
Personally, I would have had Three boards; Fame, Shame, Why.
Fame: What EVERYONE loved and were successful
Shame: What NO ONE liked
Why: What you liked, Plus a Reason (some text explaining why you liked their music etc.)
That would be acceptable, because it helps other children understand why others like different music, yet challenges the Kids to writing up and explaining their passion for Hardcore Metal/Blues etc, :)
The only way an artist/Group would be allowed onto the "Fame" wall, is if everyone in the class (through discussion) has heard and liked the music by them, as a whole.
Stupid Teacher :lol:
11th Jan 2009, 2:57 PM
Wow. What an amazing lack of foresight and sensitivity on the teacher's part.
There's clearly no point to the Shame & Why walls except to make some students feel bad about themselves.
"Hey kids, come in and bring pictures of your favorite musicians to class so that your peers can judge you harshly and destroy the thing you love!"
11th Jan 2009, 3:02 PM
I agree with robokitty.
You don't do these kinds of things. You make them write a paper on the subject. Pick an artist you admire, an artist you don't, and an artist that you'd like to know more about/wonder why they're famous. Now tell me why you like the artist you like, why you dislike the one you dislike, and what you'd like to know about the last one. Then you have a discussion, not a tear down my heroes session.
11th Jan 2009, 3:03 PM
That's pretty weird, Vampire. I can't really see the educational value in your example either. This sounds more like bullying someone for music taste then a way to get insights.
I'd agree with Petchy. That would be a better system. Or just dump the Fame and Shame parts and instead do a lesson in which everyone brings in a favorite song or artist or band and then discuss in the class why you like the music. Without giving of the impression there is right and wrong music.
I remember having had a lesson like that in my first year at Art-Uni. Which was a pretty neat experience. We were specifically asked to bring in a song/piece we loved that wasn't necessarily mainstream music. It really made that we got to know eachother as classmates on a totally different level. And also made me discover new music to check out. It's pretty neat to have the hardrock-guy bring in a piece of Opera played on bassguitars and such. Or to discover the Japanese exchange student likes old country and western music.
11th Jan 2009, 4:15 PM
It would have been a better exercise for the students to place the pictures wherever they wanted, and to discuss the artists that ended up being on all three walls.
I'm really not sure what the point of the exercise was originally. It's a shame that students who were asked to express their personal aesthetic taste were meant to feel shame for their own opinions in the end.
11th Jan 2009, 8:04 PM
The wall of shame was for artist that you thought were horrible and the wall of why was for artists that you thought shouldn't even try. Then, all of her pictures were moved from the Wall Of Fame to the Wall of Shame and then to the Wall of Why.
Well, it appears that it was clear what each of the walls represented. Did she ask the teacher about it or did she just leave it as it was and now you're asking us what she meant by that or why she did it? Maybe the teacher was an asshole on purpose or maybe she had a different reason for the change. Either way, had she asked the teacher, she would have gotten a reason for the change and maybe moved the pics back to their place, and then she wouldn't have worried about it anymore.
11th Jan 2009, 9:08 PM
Well, she did go up to her deask to ask but she saw at least one of her pictures torn up on her desk. After that, she kinda lost it. I plan on writing an e-mail, but my sister is pretty sensitive. She really isn't that great at standing up for herself and I had this teacher before and she is an ass. She also suffers from low self esteme, self proclaimed, so my only guess is that she is bulling who she can.
I just want to know why EVERY LITTLE THING is a competition in highschool, why can't she or anyone share her feelingsm, her tastes, herself. She doesn't have many friends and she has Cerebral Palsy, so she really can't walk up the steps to change the pictures back. honestly feel like kick this teachers ass. My sis is so insecure and something like this alays seems to happen at her school, but it happened to me, I think it's the school.
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