View Full Version : Aaggh, I will NEVER do THAT again--Big Weddings that is.
12th Jan 2010, 10:08 PM
Okay after having read the stray comments here and there about how difficult weddings were to do for Sims3, I did one anyway. I just HAD to. :faceslap: I'd worked so hard to turn John Lessen into a major rock god who has pretty much all of Riverview claiming to be his best buddy. And Rhoda Bagley has worked so hard in her Church of Filet-O'Fish spiritual auditing sessions to reduce her negative betans and become less of a thieving shrew and more of a sexy rocker chick. So, I just couldn't let them sneak off and get married in the privacy of their bedroom in thier underwear the way Rhoda's mom had done with Kurt Shallow. (And you can just guess how well THAT marriage is turning out! :rolleyes: So, the town absolutely needed a major celebration of this incredible union of chronic night-owls.
After investigating various locations around the sparsely appointed town for a suitable venue, Rhoda and Jon concluded that Jon's fabulous mansion's backyard would be the best location for the big event. After all he has this awesome stage, a tiki bar and a cool sound system--what else do you really need to have the wedding of the century? Okay, maybe a couple of buffet tables and some cheap chairs and round tables, but that's about it.
Really they had more going for their wedding than my simple farming couple had in Sims2 when they had their backyard wedding. So I thought okay, this is going to go great, just like Ma and Pa Boring's wedding was. That had been divinely romantic and even came with a cute little video of the exchange of vows (ahh, I do so miss Sims2 video scenes). Rhoda and Jon didn't have a wedding arch, but I did have a rose trellis as a focal point. And yes, somehow, take after take after take, I did manage to position them somewhat near it to make an attractive photo-op--if you kind of fudge the camera angles a bit, ;)
Alas, it took me 45 minutes and constant exiting without saving, and starting over to get the blasted wedding completed to my satisfaction. I lost track, but approximately 4 weddings went off fine, only to have two guests just get stuck frozen in place, unable to react. I tried the reset sim cheat but either I did it wrong or I completely failed to understand the concept, but it did nothing for me. So abort, retry, fail--repeat. Finally I figured out that guests would continue to freeze if they straggle to assemble to witness the grand event after the ceremony pauses to add the new spouse to the household. Unfortunately, getting guests to NOT straggle is about as easy and enjoyable as herding cats. As someone who actually has to herd cats (into my office each night so they don't keep us up all night) I can say I prefer herding cats.
I found I had to build a fence around the foot of the stairs to keep guests from going to the second floor of the house, where they would just play Jon's collection of guitars, apparently never to take an interest in the wedding party again. EDIT to add: I later learned doing that messed up the stairs and caused Rhoda and John to throw tantrums any time they were on one floor and I directed them to do something on the other floor. I had to delete the stairs and put in a new one in order to fix that issue.
Another problem I found with the guests is that as soon as they arrived, I kept getting pop-up notices that so--and-so absolutely has to be somewhere else soon, so you'd better rush. Oh well I know there are guests like that in real life, so...what can you say.
And at the end of the event, the guests do not graciously take their leave and calmly walk off the lot, as they did in Sims2. No, at around 9 pm they run as if the hounds of hell are at their heels. I kept wondering if Inappropriate Billy Caspian had done another one of his incredible room-clearing farts. But no--that's just the way they are in Sims3. There is hardly any time to have a proper reception and meet and greet the guests.
I think my mistake was having the maximum number of allowable guests. I did find having the stage was a big help in getting everyone close to where they needed to be for me to start the exchange of vows. With the stage, if you direct the bride or groom to "go there with" and select all the guests, everyone will be assembled roughly where they need to be. The problem is they immediately start to wander off again even if you select the option to Get Married as soon as everyone is in the vicinity. That option will bring people back to watch the ceremony, but it's always dicey with the timing as to whether or not everyone will be exactly where they need to be to avoid getting stuck.
Oh and I had no indication at all during the party as to how it was going. I only found out afterward that it was a success. I miss the days when you knew you had a swinging party because Drew Carrey would show up! :P
Anyway, that was MY experience with a Sims3 wedding. I doubt I will ever do this again unless someone posts some great recipe for wedding success. I swear, we need a Sims3 wedding planner.
12th Jan 2010, 10:22 PM
Yeah, weddings are evil unless you just host a private wedding. Here's my wedding party disaster: http://kyotilegacy.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/9-1-shes-not-that-into-you/
Overall, I think parties are easier than in Sims 2 though. I never had a decent party in that game.
12th Jan 2010, 10:29 PM
Oh my gosh, and I thought my wedding had problems, Rad, yours takes the cake! Er...I mean waffle batter. Good grief, the guests did look horribly scattered. And her cell phone went off during the ceremony? I'm lucky that didn't happen to me, though Rhoda's brother did try calling her right as she was um, consummating the marriage (it was daytime because Rhoda didn't have a wedding night).
LOL--yeah, I'd forgotten Rhoda had to work that night. She left shortly after the ceremony. She was getting too close to achieving her dream of master thief and I didn't want to ruin that by causing her to miss work that night. Jon is at the point in his career when he works when he wants to.
One thing I wondered is if I somehow overlooked some key wedding items. I searched but could not find a wedding arch, a wedding cake, or anything I'm used to having for Sims weddings.
13th Jan 2010, 5:42 AM
I tried one wedding right after I got TS3 and my experience made me opt for all future wedding to be "private". After reading this I am really glad I made that choice. I would have gone bonkers (well more bonkers)
I agree that TS3 needs a better wedding system or something. I too miss TS1 & 2 weddings, they were nice and easy.
13th Jan 2010, 6:01 AM
It helps if you have a community lot that has it all. I have one curch (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=349465) I downloaded from here, which I did have to modify alot as well as will have to modfiy some more to make it more into what I want, but it makes life easyer.
I still keep some of the weddings on home lots, but mostly I use a community lot.
And I too miss TS2 wedding stuff. Specially the arch. Having the bride and groom be on the right spot is easy if you can controll both, but if you only control one, it's super hard, as the come here interaction doesn't always show up (I think it only shows up if you are on different lots).
13th Jan 2010, 6:08 AM
I held a wedding once on a beach I made myself (community lot.)
It was all great (except for the bride having sex with the best friend and best man of the groom in their house down the road ;) ) and then that Hank Goddard or whatever his name is, the one married to Pauline Wan got stuck there. And is still there now :rofl:
13th Jan 2010, 10:34 AM
Weddings are a complete waste of time since you really have little opportunity to make anything happen. I liked TS2 weddings much more because you seemed to have much greater influence on the guests experience, and could make parties more varied than in TS3.
The only things you can do for the guests are play them music, feed them, talk to them. Most of the time they just stand there doing absolutely nothing, or stand in a queue trying to get through a door, but they still say they had a great time when they leave. Total waste of time.
13th Jan 2010, 2:14 PM
I always find with big weddings that you've found a lovely spot for the bride and groom to be when they actually take the plunge, but then all the guests stand in it! My last two sims to get hitched were an hour late for their own wedding because they kept getting in each other's way! Pathfinding is a nightmare in this game.
13th Jan 2010, 6:14 PM
I tried a wedding party once in Sims3. I only had three guest so I thought it would be simple. One kept dancing the whole time, the kitchen caught fire, two guest got in a fight, the bride flirted with another girl and the groom wouldn't marry her. ( this was the Wan-Goddard house btw). When it was all done and the bride was in tears, the groom wanted to break up with her and I got a notice that the party was a sucess????
J. M. Pescado
13th Jan 2010, 6:35 PM
Parties in TS3 are generally less smooth than TS2: In TS2, other sims simply hovered lurkily in the ether, waiting to be invited over. When you threw a party, therefore, they had nothing else to do except attend, because that was their sole reason for existence. In TS3, every sim has an independent existence of doing something in the neighborhood. Therefore, when you try to start a party, they all show up in a haphazard trickle, or sod off to go to work, or whatever it is they might be doing instead of waiting on your beck and call. As a result, much like in real life, parties don't typically happen except on national holidays.
13th Jan 2010, 8:08 PM
Oh gosh, I'm just laughing too hard right now at the comments and observations here. It sounds like the Wan-Goddard couple is a hot mess in everyone's game. I now wish I'd played them when I was using Sunset Valley. I guess I could always import them to RiverView. But my town is already loaded with cops.
Pescado, you're right, it's a lot more like real life. Come to think of it in real life parties are always a pain in the butt. Real people do have real schedules to juggle. Unfortunately with Sims3, too much reality makes it difficult for me to be the godlike legend in my own mind that I got used to being in Sims2 and Sims1.
Ani, I guess if you want to witness accidental hilarity like w8tin's wedding, you could have a wedding. There are a few couples I wouldn't mind inflicting that kind of wedding on. I think I will try to have a wedding again in the future, but I'll try to be less of a control freak about it and see what kind of craziness ensues. I'll try inviting only the unemployed sims in my town, next time!
13th Jan 2010, 9:18 PM
i think it sounds fun hahah a real good dramatic wedding :P except that it sounds too easy to have a good party... oh well never mind... will have to do it anyway....
14th Jan 2010, 5:57 AM
this post is a blast! everyones stories made me smile and laugh. :) I find that a simple house party goes fine, but weddings and especialy BIRTHDAY parties end up a big mess. Every time I try to have a birthday party, none of guest want to gather around when my sim ages. If I can even get my sim to wait to age till AFTER I blow out the candles....
14th Jan 2010, 1:48 PM
I also usually opt for private weddings but some couples just have the personality for a big wedding and I just can't make them do it in private. My last wedding wasn't nearly as bad as the stories here, went fairly smoothly, actually, other than horrible, horrible lagging but then after the vows all the dimwitted guests (invited and strays) stood around groaning about starving with a full buffet RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. :wtf: One guest told me it was a lousy party and sauntered off while the rest all said it was a success, though the buffet table was never touched.
14th Jan 2010, 5:24 PM
I had fun with my big weddings, but parties in general are pretty silly and it is hilarious how when its time to go the guest sometimes take off running. I invited certain enemies of the family and ganged my sim's family up on them with petty jabs and implications that their mother was a llama.
14th Jan 2010, 7:25 PM
i think it sounds fun hahah a real good dramatic wedding :P except that it sounds too easy to have a good party... oh well never mind... will have to do it anyway....I think the reason Jon and Rhoda's wedding came off as a huge success (Legendary, according to the popup I got afterwards) is that Jon has the highest level of charisma and has at least one of the charisma challenges completed AND on top of that has the LEGENDARY HOST lifetime happiness gift bestowed on him. I put that on him because I figured a rock god of his stature and popularity would be expected to host the best parties in town.
From what I've been reading here and on a couple of legacy blogs, it's apparently actually more common for weddings to be huge disasters. Grim Reaper tends to show up for a lot of parties. I've never yet seen him in my game and I'm one of the rare few who hopes I never do. I've had a sim get electrocuted but not near to death over it.
I hope with future expansions we will get more party and wedding objects. I would love to see an obnoxious photographer NPC. I've seen a couple of weddings that were absolutely taken over by photographers in real life. My husband's cousin's wedding had this photographer and her crew who just grabbed the couple as they were trying to greet guests at the reception and monopolized them for nearly an hour taking photos. She would have made a fabulous sim--she dressed kind of oddly formal in a Devil Wears Prada kind of overstyled way. And her personality was so clipped and brusque as to be a parody. No sim wedding is complete without a character like that!
As for real life birthdays and sim birthdays, I know the sim birthdays can get really bizarre. I haven't yet had one but I've read some accounts in the blogs and stories sections. Well I had only ever had one birthday party in my entire life and it was surreal, too. It was my 17th birthday and my grandmother and cousins in Japan threw me a party and invited practically every kid in the neighborhood. I had friends ranging in age from 8 to 18 so it was a huge blast and they had to actually move some of the doors off the tracks so we could all fit in. So that part is normal, but then a real life bunny showed up and everyone went nuts. It was like I had a celebrity guest or something. I guess when you have a huge group of Japanese girls obsessed with "kawaii" (Cuteness) the best thing that could possibly happen to a party is to have an adorable rabbit show up. What was nuttier was the rabbit was a friend of mine, too. With my poor language skills I would always be stressed trying to talk to everyone in their language, so I was always talking to animals and I made friends with this rabbit that used to come in and mess up my grandmother's vegetable garden. (My grandmother loved me so much she stopped chasing the bunny off with her broom and let it eat her garden for the duration of my visit). My aunt even had a frosting bunny put on my birthday cake -- that's how well known this rabbit friendship was to our family. So there we were, practically a whole neighborhood of kids, and a real rabbit. Everybody ate, the rabbit ate--the crowd didn't upset the bunny at all. A good time was had by all. The bunny stayed through the whole party and left when it was over--how it knew, I don't know but it did. And since the party was a huge success, I can't say it was the Social Bunny! But later, that evening, I got the worst case of "the runs" I'd had in my life because the cake frosting had been made of real cream--and I'm lactose intolerant. :rofl: So sometimes, when the Sims gets really "out there" I think back to my own life and realize maybe Sims isn't so "out there" after all! I really sometimes get tempted to check for a plumb-bob hovering over my head when my life gets odd.
EDIT to explain: The rabbit could join the party because in the Japanese style house some sliding doors can be removed to open the house up to the outdoors. The room we had the cake in was open to the garden and that's how I was able to share the party with my rabbit friend.
14th Jan 2010, 9:26 PM
summersong86: You and your rl social bunny :D
I just have a rl social cat <3
15th Jan 2010, 12:56 AM
Great post, Summersong...I love the real life Social Bunny! :)
29th Jan 2010, 11:12 PM
The couple of attempts I had with wedding parties were nothing short of nightmarish. After the 3rd disaster (3 strikes you're out) I went solely with "Have Private Wedding". In fact, I have included this with my latest Tuning Mod "Auto Romantic Socials" where sims can and do the "Have Private Wedding" on their own.
30th Jan 2010, 12:53 PM
Wow, I can honestly say I never had much problems with holding weddings.
The only time I did have a problem was when i forgot to take Workpusher out, so both the Bride and Groom where trying to leave the party to go to work before they were married.
30th Jan 2010, 3:08 PM
I remember the last birthday party i throw'd. In a small room, there was a birthday cake. Everybody was in that room, and the "birthday-one" sim went to the cake to "fooo". Then the cake burned, started a fire, fire in every place of the room. Everyone died. The End.
Bad english. Parties in The Sims 3 are traumatic :/
30th Jan 2010, 11:20 PM
Yeah I learned my lesson. Never again. EVERY single party some old person showed up and died. It never failed. Then the guests were freaked out by Grim since he insists on sticking around.
31st Jan 2010, 5:56 PM
I know parties are a nightmare! Once at a funeral party I threw, the deceased girl's sister died in the middle of it. So that led to more crying then there already was. As for big weddings, they are even worse. I had this goldigger sim, and she was marrying this old guy, but he didn't live with her so I didn't know his exact age, but he died right after they said vows! It was a horrible party and my goldigger fainted being the coward she is, but hey, at least I completed her LTW xD
31st Jan 2010, 7:25 PM
Yeah I remember having my game updated to patch 1.4 where no children were supposed to show up to a single parent. This patch blocked the immigration, blocked births and marriages and almost every story progression event. The neighbourhood itself was a huge disaster. Unemployment, declining population where the youngest person was a teenage girl while the rest of the population was elderly. When I threw parties at my last family's house there was at least one elderly guest to die during the party. Hopefully I reinstalled my game, started a new game and installed Indie Stone's Story Progression Mod. What a relief!
In my new neighbourhood I arranged a wedding party. A sim impersonating me was supposed to marry. The ceremony was held in the middle of the night on a shallow yard behind the family's house. It was a disaster. I think I need to build a church to carry weddings.
I included some pictures of this disaster
The Chappel was the very first thing I build in Sims 3. Took me about 6 hours, yikes...:wtf:
Going to do a new and better version for my custom hood, but I have always loved holding my weddings at my "special" little venue. :)
18th Feb 2010, 10:29 PM
:up: OMG! This thread is too funny. Thanks for the laughs everyone.
I love your determination in trying every which way to make the wedding work out. (And your telling of it was very funny.) Bravo! You're right --there will probably be a celebration type pack at a later date with all the party stuff.
How Rhonda's mom and Kurt Shallow got married sounded like a legendary rocker style wedding to me. LOL
And I agree, it is odd that at the end of a party they exit running rather than walking.
Your wedding blog was hilarious!
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