Sims without CC

[PuffyAmi]

I just wonder, what kind of opinions you people have about Custom content in the sims - Would you love sims as much as you do if there weren't any of all things you can get to CAS or mods etc.

I think having CC at least for CAS is the best thing, because the base sims in the sims 3 are hidiously ugly. But sadly since EA didn't really mean sims for modding, CC tend to cause problems after another.

Well that's my opinion so what about you others? :)

[kittenette069]

I would not like Sims 3 so much if not for CC. I could live without mods if I *had* to, but I can't stand a lot of the hairs EA gave us with the base game. I have to nice hairstyles and that's all there is to it. As for other CC besides hair, well it's cool if it doesn't slow my game down too much.

[Chinchillagrl6]

I tend to stay pretty light on CC. The store stuff and a few nice hairs and makeup work for me. With slider mods and a nice default (I use aikea's) you can make some beautiful sims, it just takes some patience.

[tizerist]

Well there was time many many moons ago when I had PS2 TS1, and I was perfectly happy with it.
Custom Content was only for snobby PC types who constantly demanded more and more from their game. Why can't they just be happy with what they got?

Now though, having actually drunk from the chalice myself, having a non-CC game would just be plain crud. It doesn't help when the developers push out rubbish decorative items.
It depends what you are used to.

[acid_fairy]

I love my mods, hairstyles and clothes.

The only CC I cannot stand is furniture, usually because it looks nothing like the rest of the furniture in the game and often doesn't work well ie. the side of the sim will merge into the side of the sofa. I can't download half of the houses on this and other sites because of the ridiculous amounts of CC furniture they contain!

[jenieusa]

i like having CC.....what the game provides is ok for about a week...then you start getting online to find something new...

[chyrun]

I love my mods, hairstyles and clothes.

The only CC I cannot stand is furniture, usually because it looks nothing like the rest of the furniture in the game and often doesn't work well ie. the side of the sim will merge into the side of the sofa. I can't download half of the houses on this and other sites because of the ridiculous amounts of CC furniture they contain!

Ditto!
I can live without CC objects and clothes. But hair, make up and mods are a must.

[stygia2002]

I have no CC in Sims 3 and will never have it....I'm perfectly content without it. However, just the opposite in TS1 and TS2...I can't live without CC in those games.

[ani_]

I can live without CC, even thou I would miss not having CC hair way too much. But without mods, I don't think I could live without them very well. I would still play the game, but it wouldn't be as fun as it is modded.

[FridaKahlo]

I wouldn't be able to play the game if it wasn't for custom hair, clothing, makeup, and mods. Like others said, the furniture I can mostly live without (I have like one CC bed, but it's a very simple one), and I'm not huge on CC decor items like wallpapers, paintings, etc.

For me, a huge part of playing the Sims is going online and finding things to make my game the way I want it to be. I tend to go for grungy and spooky stuff (such as Club Crimsyn, SkeletalScreams, Garden of Shadows, etc.), and vanilla Sims 3 just doesn't supply the things I need.

[pinimon162]

I don't have any CC for the sims 3. I've never been crazy about it for sims 2 either, just the bare 'essentials'. I think I'm in the minority that I like my sims to look like SIMS, not realistic, and I like the Maxis stuff.

[Bchbch Walk]

I have over 500 different cc items...I wouldn't play without it.

[el_flel]

I think it's a case of your opinion changing once you get used to something. I.e. most people probably couldn't live without their mobile phones now, but we functioned perfectly well without them before everyone had one. I suspect that most - if not all - of the people on these boards played and really enjoyed The Sims at some stage without knowing that CC existed - I certainly did and I got a huge amount of enjoyment out of the game. However, now that I know what's out there and have used it I would find it much harder to enjoy the game if I had to get rid of my CC. I think this is more true for TS2 than TS3 but mainly because TS2 has more game-altering mods as it's been out much longer.

[Astraea Nevermore]

I think it's a case of your opinion changing once you get used to something. I.e. most people probably couldn't live without their mobile phones now, but we functioned perfectly well without them before everyone had one. I suspect that most - if not all - of the people on these boards played and really enjoyed The Sims at some stage without knowing that CC existed - I certainly did and I got a huge amount of enjoyment out of the game. However, now that I know what's out there and have used it I would find it much harder to enjoy the game if I had to get rid of my CC. I think this is more true for TS2 than TS3 but mainly because TS2 has more game-altering mods as it's been out much longer.

Totally agree with this. When I first discovered The Sims, I didn't have an internet connection yet, so I knew nothing about CC and similar stuff, but that didn't bother me at all and I still had fun with default skintones, eyes and so on.
However, when I got to discover the existence of MTS, CC and tutorials to make stuff by myself, it was like discovering a whole new world, and most of the basegame stuff started to look quite hideous to me, too, making it really difficult to appreciate it anymore. I'll also admit that the whole CC creating thing can be, sometimes, way funnier than just playing the game itself.

As for CC in TS3, I could probably quite easily live without clothes -thanks to Create-a-style you can have quite infinite customization possibilities even with just basegame clothes- and the majority of custom hair. However, do-not-take-away-my-CAS-slider-hacks D:
If there's one thing I totally hate in TS3, is the limited possibility to change a sim's appearance, speaking for sliders 'power' and characteristics, which make the whole process really frustrating: custom sliders/slider hacks are really a huge help, give more creating possibilities and makes the sim creating phase easier and funnier, at least to me... so, that's why it'd be really bad to give 'em up D:

[el_flel]

^ I was the same. I used to play TS1 at my friend's and we downloaded a couple of things for it so I knew stuff was out there, but wasn't really bothered by it and probably didn't realise just how massive the community was. When I finally got a computer capable of running TS2 I still played it vanilla for ages.

I didn't seek out CC because I was bored with or didn't like the game. It just made a nice addition.

[Robodl95]

I would have to say I'm a verging CCaholic, it really depends on how pressed I am, I could play TS2 without CC just fine but I think that TS3 sims are really ugly without any CC to help.

I tend to play in a more "essentials" maxis match style, besides hair which I download pretty readily I usually keep things on the down low, I rarely download objects or patterns unless they really interest me, I don't download much clothing but the ones I do are very maxis matchy like Anubis or Poppy (I can't stand photoskinning)

I don't think TS3 would be as fun without CC, being a creator I would miss the fun I get out of creating stuff, it would also limit the possibilities of the game, no towns set in the 1600s or the 31st century.

[Fernweather]

I don't generally feel much need for CC clothing and objects (I use some CC glasses because that is one area in which the game offers way too few options for my tastes). I'm more interested in mods that change or fix game behavior.

[Land_Cow]

I was able to live with a CC-less Sims 2 for a long time. After I started tentatively adding CC and mods in the game, I just couldn't stop! :P

With the Sims 3, I prefer to have CC and mods. I didn't like EA's story progression, so I replaced that with Twallan's and eventually AwesomeMod's. A few other mods I have get rid of annoyances such as autonomous foot tapping. Without CC, I can't make the Sims I envision. The amount of hairstyles and clothes are too limited, and the base game's default skin is doughy looking.

[LifesLover]

I can live without CC. I played the Sims 2 and the Sims 3 for long periods of time without any CC in it and I was perfectly happy and content. I don't need to play with CC, it just helps mold the game to how I like it.

I don't like CC furniture, mainly because that makes it very difficult to upload a house if I put in a bunch of CC that I then have to catalogue, find links for, and post up that they have to go get that CC from there, since I don't include it. I know that I find it extremely annoying to have to find a whole bunch of CC just for a house, especially when there was really no need for some of the CC they included, like paintings. Why, in the Sims 2, I found that I had well over 3,000 different pieces of CC and most of it had been from the houses I'd download that included the custom content.

There are some things that I'd really rather I didn't play without, like the glass door or the country windows, but other than that, I was happy before, I'm happy now. I just like having even more options.

[Srikandi]

But sadly since EA didn't really mean sims for modding, CC tend to cause problems after another.


This is a common misconception, but it's really not true. If EA had wanted to prevent people from modding the sims, they would not have programmed the game so that you could just plunk mods in a particular folder and have the game recognize them.

Mods CAN cause problems, it's true, but that's because a mod BY DEFINITION alters the data the game uses. There's no game that can be modded where you can't make a mod that breaks the game.

As for CC, personally, the CC I rely on hte most is gameplay hacks :) I have a lot of furniture and build objects which I love, and a few other things, but it's the ability to bend the game's rules to how I like to play that makes mods nearly indispensible.

[jerin8]

I love CC and have never played vanilla from day one Sims 1. I love mods, furniture, build cc esp. I care more about getting houses the way I want them to be then I do Sims. I've only just begun to download more clothes and hair eyes etc because in the Sims 3 they all look exactly alike to me. Downloading Sims has never worked out well for me at least not in Sims 2. I just downloaded one for Sims 3 on a lark, and of course to do that I realized l have to down load 13 pieces of CC for the sim. Whats the point? I might as well of downloaded all that myself and made the sim myself. Only god knows what all that CAS ect cc is going to do to my game. That stuff never goes well for me. Well we shall see!

[justin1010]

I could probably live without most CC furniture, clothes, and hair since I usually just stick to the EA stuff. But there are some mods I just could not live without, such as one's that change undesirable aspects of the game, make the sims themselves look better, or the mods that simply fix bugs that EA refused to fix.

[salmiakk]

I dislike almost every ea-hair, and my sims tended to look alike before I accepted that I needed cc. Don't really care for make-up, skins and eyes, and can't be bothered with much of the furniture. Ea's works fine with cast :)

I didn't buy ts2 until there was several ep's, so I never really needed any cc for that.
When I played ts1, i downloaded cc like a maniac :P

[kennyinbmore]

The only CC in my game is a few houses and cars from this site. I still love my game and the way my stock sims look

[Buzzler]

But sadly since EA didn't really mean sims for modding, CC tend to cause problems after another.This is a common misconception, but it's really not true. If EA had wanted to prevent people from modding the sims, they would not have programmed the game so that you could just plunk mods in a particular folder and have the game recognize them.EAxis actually didn't really mean TS3 for modding, but they didn't take actions to prevent modding either. I remember a dev being asked in a pre-release interview if EAxis would release modding tools or help the modding community. His answer was "They'll figure it out." The success of the Sims franchise heavily depends on the CC-creating community, but the devs would rather pull out their pubic hair one-by-one before they'd do anything to actively help that community. /RANT

As to the topic: Making mods is my way to stay interested in the game.

[tjstreak]

Whenever I get bored with gameplay, I start making custom content. Then I play to test out the custom content I make.

I would have stopped playing long ago if I had been stuck with what EA gave us. Especially their story progression!

[PuffyAmi]

EAxis actually didn't really mean TS3 for modding, but they didn't take actions to prevent modding either. I remember a dev being asked in a pre-release interview if EAxis would release modding tools or help the modding community. His answer was "They'll figure it out." The success of the Sims franchise heavily depends on the CC-creating community, but the devs would rather pull out their pubic hair one-by-one before they'd do anything to actively help that community. /RANT
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Exactly what I have heard too. I mean many games are pretty okay with Mods, and those companies make modding programs for modders to make it easier, unlike EA.
I 've also heard many bad stuff of EA company, since they already are at the top, they dont really have a big motivaiton anymore to make "perfect" games. So I think EA sucks, Tho I still love the sims.

[Bloody Lemon]

I love making sims and playing with them more than anything in the game so face up stuff I can get from Lemon leaf, Heiret, Xmsim etc to make pretty asian type of sims is just must for me or else I wouldn't see much fun in the sims.

About the modding programs, It's such a shame EA didn't give anything. I would have totally wanted to create my own 3d clothing to make FF characters etc since I can't stand clothes that are just pictures, I need them to have normal maps and all that good stuff, but it will just stay as a hopeless dream...

[Srikandi]

About the modding programs, It's such a shame EA didn't give anything. I would have totally wanted to create my own 3d clothing to make FF characters etc since I can't stand clothes that are just pictures, I need them to have normal maps and all that good stuff, but it will just stay as a hopeless dream...

Don't say that, Bloody Lemon :) EA might not have given us the tools for clothes, but you have a choice of a couple of community tools, plus plenty of community support if you want to do it yourself. Check the tutorials in the Create section :)

And EA did give us CAW and CAP, both of which are pretty powerful and fun tools.

[Bloody Lemon]

Don't say that, Bloody Lemon :) EA might not have given us the tools for clothes, but you have a choice of a couple of community tools, plus plenty of community support if you want to do it yourself. Check the tutorials in the Create section :)

And EA did give us CAW and CAP, both of which are pretty powerful and fun tools.

That's true I could still create those clothes in away or another, but I went thought all the creating stuff two months ago - finding out by forum conversations that if I want to create a complite new 3d cloth for a sim it would be a big job to make new bone arragments and etc. But maybe I'll then just use the original clothes with tiny modyfications - better than nothing I suppose. Thanks for cheering me btw :beer: