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MadforSims
19th Oct 2010, 01:12 AM
I'm in 9th grade, and a girl my age recently commited suicide. I didn't even know her that well, and I was bent out of shape.
However, our school's reaction struck me as strange. Not a single one of my teachers said anything at all, and my friends who had her in classes said the same thing. They just all ignored it.
During the daily announcements, all that was said was 'Over the weekend, one of our students passed away. Our condolences go out the her family and friends.' That's all. What made me angrier is that before that they had spent about 10 minutes on a Future Farmer's of America announcement. I almost seemed like an afterthought. They didn't even offer grief counseling, and as 9th graders, we don't even know the high school guidence counselers.
My boyfriend said that the teacher's probably need to have a meeting about what to say and what not to say, but I think that is a student really needed to talk, shouldn't the teachers be allowed to? If I was a teacher, I would definantly say something.
So, do you think that my school handeled it the right way? Or should they have done something more?
RI.P. Lauren
potatoehead
19th Oct 2010, 01:21 AM
I remember when a junior died the beginning of my freshman year, everyone in his class was affected by it, and there was a large outpouring of grief and condolences. Our principal made a long announcement about it, too. There are still reminders of him around the school occasionally. This is of course somewhat different from your situation, but I must say I was surprised that no one had any reaction to this girl's suicide. It's rather disrespectful to her memory to pass over her death like that. Perhaps they are afraid to talk about suicide- it is a difficult subject to talk about, and people don't like talking about difficult issues.
MadforSims
19th Oct 2010, 01:29 AM
It's just that even if they try to ignore it it'll still be here. They can't change that. They should just try and make it as bearable as possible for her firends. I mean, people are leaving classes crying, and they're just ignoring it. However, there are 'teacher meetings' left and right now, so I wonder if there thinking about doing anything. But what I CANNOT believe is that someone said, Oh, let's just say this, it'll cover it. If I was closer to her, I would be so angry at the school.
Oaktree
19th Oct 2010, 02:42 AM
The school may not be allowed to talk about it. If the girl's parents don't want the school to talk about it, I don't think they can legally talk about a minor. I don't know if I'd call it disrespectful of her memory to avoid the topic, but I can understand how it would be weird and frustrating for the students that knew her.
crimsonbutterfly23
19th Oct 2010, 04:18 AM
Maybe her parents would prefer them to talk about it. Maybe they wanted people to remember their daughter as a classmate instead of "the girl who committed suicide". I can see where it would be frustrating to see so little coverage on it but sometimes it's better that way.
paksetti
19th Oct 2010, 04:20 PM
There was a kid who died of a Staph infection when I was in high school- they didn't have a long announcement, just a "in loving memory" sort of thing. But the really embarrassing thing was that there were serious fistfights (in which innocent teachers and passing students got caught) between people that liked the kid, and people that didn't. Then, they gave an announcement that essentially said "We're all disappointed in you, quit being little shits." and they threatened instant OSS for anyone suspected of fighting. They also had grief counseling during lunch for his friends.
But that's not what makes me mad about the way people cover high school deaths, though you need a little background knowledge.
My district consists of several regular high schools, and three schools the size of college campuses called "Senior high schools", which were for 11th and 12th grades. They were treated like mix of college and high school.
So, when a normal kid died from a staph infection at a regular high school, people stopped caring after a week. But when a football player from the senior high died, there was news coverage, local radio coverage, newspaper coverage, candlelight vigils, a two minute long moment of silence every day that week, the football players and cheerleaders wore black armbands to every game that season in honor of him, AND he got a damn plaque outside the football stadium.
So. I dunno. It just seems like they treated him much better than the other kid.
starved4pizza
20th Oct 2010, 12:32 AM
^ Jocks rule the school. American football is the America dream, so they think they deserve more attention than anyone else.
Honeywell
20th Oct 2010, 01:13 AM
It sounds like they don't want to give attention to bad behavior so to speak out of fear of making suicide seem like an attractive option. That sounds a little callous but apparently there's been some studies that suggest the attention and fanfare surrounding teen suicide might actually increase it.
I sincerely doubt that the teachers and administrators just don't care or think the student wasn't popular enough to warrant an interruption in the schedule. How they've chosen to deal with the situation might not be the best way (I have no idea) but I'm sure they think it's best.
There have been clusters of suicides in adolescents. Some feel that media sensationalization or idealized obituaries of the deceased may contribute to this phenomenon.
http://www.baltimorepsych.com/Suicide.htm
Mistermook
20th Oct 2010, 01:19 AM
High school is so long ago I barely remember it in any particulars, but I know that there were more than a handful of people that died from various things including suicide when I was attending and I don't remember there being anything really emphasized about any of it. I remember a friend of mine's old brother shot himself in the head and lived, and no one mentioned that - I wouldn't have even known about that except I made a lame teenager comment about his "new haircut" and put my foot in my mouth firmly as a way of finding out.
I'm not sure I think it's appropriate for schools to weigh in too heavily on anything besides schoolwork. Schools are spread pretty thin just educating people these days, much less having to have to act as grief counselors. Then again, it wasn't like I was heavily invested in anything like a school social scene in any of my educational periods. I had friends and such, but I never really thought of them in terms of the schools.
MadforSims
20th Oct 2010, 02:58 AM
It's just that the rumors about her are flying, and i think it would set things right if they had a short assembly about it. Nothing too detailed, but just so all the stupid, even boardering on ridiculas rumors are stopped. Shouldn't they just say enough that she isn't remembered in the wrong way?
Mistermook
20th Oct 2010, 04:49 PM
Again, I'm not sure I think it's the school's place to address rumors either - whatever information a school administrator might have is second hand and might include personal information about a student. Frankly there's no right or wrong way any one of us can or should be remembered. The facts aren't theirs to discuss or witness I assume, and except for the conditional response of maintaining order on campus it's really just not some stranger who happens to have been employed in a teaching or administrative position's place to do anything except teach and administrate.
I guess I'm saying that the best I'd hope for is someone going: "If you talk about this subject, we'll discipline you because it's distracting people from their schoolwork." Worst thing that could happen? Someone forces the administration to respond, which will likely be each and every one of you being forced into some pep rally type situation with bored school counselors and whatever cheap grief counselors they can get to respond on a short notice. It might not happen until long after you've all moved on to other points of interest, because doing something like that sometimes has to get a lot of agreement and checking from the county, state and maybe even federal level depending on what they're planning talking about and how.
Mostly I suggest just not worrying about what other people say or think. It's good advice for a lot of things.
MadforSims
21st Oct 2010, 02:06 AM
Mostly I suggest just not worrying about what other people say or think. It's good advice for a lot of things.
True, itbut like I said just doesn't seem right to me. I don't know. Maybe thinking about this stuff's making me crazy. But that is some freaking good advice.
And I get the whole thing about the parents not wanting anything said/them [the school] not being allowed to say anything. They are all good points.
And an update: This morning there was a prayer service before school. Nope, not organized by any teachers, but by one of my fellow freshmen. So thanks to her, it was nice. But, students shouldn't be the only ones organizing things like this. (This wasn't the only thing that honored her). Also, quite a few stidents left school today to attend her funeral. I was unable, but I was also unaware of times,ect. Do you think the school should provide students with times, directions, and excuses to be allowed out of class to go to events such as these? I didn't even know her funeral was today until the girl who organized the prayer service told me. Or is this something else they may not be allowed to say?
lethifold
21st Oct 2010, 02:58 AM
The funeral should be a time for her loved ones to grieve privately, not a chance for all the students she was acquaintances with to say goodbye. I don't think the school would have any right to direct students who may or may not even know the girl to the funeral where her family are in a state of deep mourning. The school shouldn't explicitly say anything regarding the details of her death without the family's strict permission.
As for the school not giving a longer message of condolence, what can they say? I'm sure that the vast majority of the teachers did not know her intimately, and it's horribly false for them to then get up and say what a wonderful, caring, kind, considerate person she was if they have absolutely no idea. Besides, the school should focus on school related things, or things in the wider community that still link back. When I was in high school, a boy's mother died of breast cancer. The school mentioned it because he had made a one hour movie, set at the school and involving students and teachers, and people donated money to see a screening of it. This money then was donated to cancer research. My school mentioned this seeing as it a) was a very charitable thing for him to do, and b) because it showed the school in a positive light.
Dooglers9
21st Oct 2010, 03:08 AM
I remember when I was about 10 or so, a kid at my school passed away. I think that the school handled it appropriately. It happened over Winter Break, so we were informed of this when we arrived back to school. The nurse went to every single room and explained that the boy had a athsma attack. This boy was sort of well known. He wasn't popular by any means but he was a respected person at our school. The school honored him by placing a picture of him in the lobby along with "In Loving Memory Of...". They also planted a tree on the playground in his honor.
Willow's Tara
21st Oct 2010, 03:22 AM
It does sound like they could have done a little bit more, even just have collensors to talk to people who are grieving.
I don't think I remember anyone ever dying at my primary or high school, which I guess could be a little bit odd, unless because nobody ever said anything or aleast to me, and in primary I was kinda of a loner, but you think I would have heard it from a teacher.
A friend of mine was in a car accident though when I was in maybe the 10th grade, quite a few students including myself of course visited her while she was in hospital, but she's okay now. Either nobody seemed to want to say anything or nobody died (Although I am getting a feeling that someone did, in one of the yearbooks I am remembering about now I am sure one of them mentioned a 12th or 11th grade passing away, I think anyways).
SuicidiaParasidia
21st Oct 2010, 03:29 AM
pretty much with PixCii and MisterMook on this one. what could possibly be said? and is it really anybodys' business other than her loved ones?
(if i whacked myself, would i want a bunch of strangers feeling sorry for it...? most likely not...)
suicide is also far too emotional a topic for most people to handle with an ounce of grace. (understandably, but, when order is needed in a volatile environment as is, i dont think itd be such a great idea to introduce even more of an excuse for people to get rowdy.)
as for funeral dates and times, those who need to know, know. those who dont; have no place asking for them.
and as mentioned before, school isnt a place for mourning.
if it effects you too much to focus on work, take time off, seek support.
as far as rumors go, those too, fade and are forgotten with time. bothersome, yes, but not permanent.
Safyre420
21st Oct 2010, 07:17 AM
And an update: This morning there was a prayer service before school. Nope, not organized by any teachers, but by one of my fellow freshmen. So thanks to her, it was nice. But, students shouldn't be the only ones organizing things like this. (This wasn't the only thing that honored her). Also, quite a few stidents left school today to attend her funeral. I was unable, but I was also unaware of times,ect. Do you think the school should provide students with times, directions, and excuses to be allowed out of class to go to events such as these? I didn't even know her funeral was today until the girl who organized the prayer service told me. Or is this something else they may not be allowed to say?
Just so you know, public schools in the US are NOT allowed to hold prayer services unless they are conducted by students. If I'm not mistaken, it falls under the separation of church and state.
jooxis
21st Oct 2010, 09:15 AM
I agree with those who said it's not really the school's business. Pretty much the exact same thing happened at my highschool - a 9th grader killed himself. The school didn't have any public announcements or anything, only his class and teachers knew. And really, it has nothing to do with anyone that didn't know him (like me). Sure, it's sad and all, but it happens all the time and it did not affect me (and most of the students) since I never met him.
But then again, I'm from a completely different culture and our attitudes are very different from the USA - schools are not regarded as a "big friendly community where we all care about each other".
WayBack
21st Oct 2010, 01:13 PM
I'll say it from the position of the family. These things are very private and should be made public only if the family gives consent. While some people are okay with the fact that complete strangers feel the urge to give condolences, other people don't want to be bothered in their grieving and it can be considered as the invasion of privacy. It's one thing when the member of your family is remembered by friends, but it's completely different if complete strangers (who didn't even know the person enough) turn the event into some kind of a grief-fest. It's nice to know that the person didn't leave completely unnoticed, but the constant reminder feels like rubbing salt into the wound and honestly, condolences given by strangers feel fake and forced and make you want to scream "You didn't even know her, why do you care now?"
longears15
22nd Oct 2010, 12:05 AM
I tend to disagree what a lot of people here have said. While I was at high school (a state high school) we had two students commit suicide and my school's response was almost the total opposite to what you have described. Admittedly, I come from a fairly close-knit area, so many people were aware of the deaths before coming to school and most of the school knew before the 9am bell. In both cases, the school community as a whole was devastated. There was no announcement as such - it was left to individual teachers to discuss it with their students in their own ways. In both cases, the school sent out a letter to parents expressing condolences but also with information on grief and signs of depression, and they offered counselling to any student or teacher who needed it.
MadforSims
23rd Oct 2010, 01:36 AM
Just so you know, public schools in the US are NOT allowed to hold prayer services unless they are conducted by students. If I'm not mistaken, it falls under the separation of church and state.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. What I meant was that things such as a prayer service. A school 'official' could start some kind of get-together to remember and honor her. I didn't have to be church or prayer related.
dancehallsim
25th Oct 2010, 10:12 PM
We've had a number of students and former students die during my time at school, and it was always handled very well. In 8th grade, one of the 7th graders was murdered, and there was grief counseling for the school and we were all sent right to homeroom the following morning so our teachers could explain what happened (pretty much exactly what we had seen on the news the night before and what the phone call home to our parents said).
Whenever a student died - whether it was an accident in Mexico, drunk driving or cancer - grief counselors were on hand and an announcement was made to the school requesting a moment of silence to remember them.
I'm from a big city, but it's a lot of the families have been in this place for a very long time, and there are deep connections that run in the city, so it feels smaller than it is. There were 1500 students at my high school, and I definitely recognized most of them from seeing them each day and could put a name to almost every face in my graduating class (347 people).. so that's why it's always made "public" over announcements.
Side note: I'm from MA, and a lot of you probably have heard about Phoebe Prince. When she died, there were grief counselors on hand for the students, and it was a very public ordeal. There were accusations that the school should have seen the bullying before and addressed the problem earlier so that Phoebe never killed herself, but they did provide help to the students who needed it after her death.
Edit:
As for funeral information. My French teacher was murdered when I was in 9th grade (I had her for French in 6th and 7th and my brother had her for Spanish at the time) and, as she was from Quebec, that is where her family had the funeral, but the local church held a memorial service for her. The information was released to the town since obviously a lot of us had her for a teacher, and again, since we are a close community despite our size, funeral information is available for the students who pass away for those who want/need it. It's not announced by loud speaker, but the school administration has the information to give to people who need it (since not everyone gets the paper and can read the information in the death notices).
qpldmff
7th Nov 2010, 04:42 AM
A girl a grade below me committed suicide last month. We had grief counseling and all that jazz. I'm relieved to say that this is the only case I can remember of any student dying, and I've been in pretty large schools.
Nekochanpurr
7th Nov 2010, 04:37 PM
I remember two kids dying in Jr. High. I believe from suicides.. But i don't think they even said anything as announcements now that i think about it. o.o; Knowing how my old schools worked though.. Its probably because they weren't jocks. lol
StephSim
11th Nov 2010, 10:32 PM
Really? The school did nothing else? That is so surprising in today's society?
When I worked for Department of Defense Schools (US) in Germany...when something tragic happened, I always allowed my students to share thier feelings because they always asked if we could just talk about things. Before I did, I would work things out with the school counselor and have her sit in on our sessions. In addition, we would organize small groups after school and I think that is the least that should have been done not only for the students, but for the parents as well. Of course, military families have a lot of services in place for such things being that students at times have to deal with a military parent dying.
Suicide or murder or whatever the tragedy shouldn't matter. This type of ultra traumatic and quite paralyzing experience can consume you if you don't find an outlet and need to. While people handle things in different ways, it would have been nice if they did more.
Sometimes, I think resources in schools is so spent, that very little thought is put into such things until it happens. People are often thinking that this sort of thing will never happen to them and so they are not prepared when it does. :(
A few weeks ago, an ambulance plummeted off a steep road into a Lake after taking someone to the hospital at 4 am. Because that road is the only way in or out of the area, the very idea of it haunts my inner being as I am a very visual and empathetic person. I can actually replay the event in my mind and I wasn't even there. I didn't know either of the 2 people who died. People all over this area of British Columbia (Canada) and Washington State (over 3000 people for a place with a population of about 1300) (especially Rescue Workers) came to the Memorial Service. A really good friend of mine here is a Paramedic who worked closely with both people who died. I cannot drive past that place without cringing and feeling a deep sense of lost and moments of inexplicable pain. So...I really wanted to know if she was alright. Luckily, I saw her a few days later and have talked to her several times about it. She said today that it is the lowest point she has ever been in (and I know she has been through quite a bit of unbelievable things). She needs to talk about it without judgment or expectation. It is human nature to try to make sense of the world (especially when tragic things happen).
So...I cannot believe they left the students in a lurch like that. Something more should have been done. Adults definitely don't have it all figured out, so young adults (and younger children as well), need to be able to express what it is they are feeling and see that there are others who feel the same and that there are many different responses and none are right or wrong.
BTW MadforSims-
Would you be comfortable talking to your counselor and even asking him/her if people who are having trouble dealing with the death/suicide could get together and just talk about it in a safe environment?
Rabid
12th Nov 2010, 12:48 AM
A "senior curse" is often addressed with lightly-tred jokes at my school; every year, one senior dies in an automobile accident without fail. In my time there, seniors have died from texting and driving, drag-racing, and simply being T-boned in the side by no fault of their own. Oftentimes the manner in which the student dies becomes a lesson; when the student who was texting and driving passed away, the school held numerous informative seminars on the dangers of texting and driving. Regardless of the lesson, death always turns the community upside down; flowers are laid on the student's assigned parking spot, the student's name is emblazoned on the fence, a tribute video is played on the video announcements, a plaque is put on a wall in the atrium in the deceased's honor, student athletes are often honored in that their teams put their names on t-shirts and devote athletic seasons to them, etc. I think that whether your school should have done something more or not is entirely contingent upon the jurisdiction of the parents; if the parents of the deceased girl wished that her death not be publicized, then the school should respect that wish. However, if the parents have no objection, then I don't see why students should not be permitted to celebrate the life of a friend and peer.
xJOFLx
12th Nov 2010, 06:00 AM
Firstly, I'm sorry that someone did take their own life from your school, even if you don't know them very well it can be hard on you.
I'm trying to remember when I was in Middle School - a student died because he was hit by a car while cycling to school, I believe. I never knew him, although I know a few people who were very close to him. Still, most of the students knew before the school held an assembly telling us about what happened and some nice, polite comments were made. His classmates weren't at the assembly, and I think most went home that because they were upset, and quite a few were away for the next few weeks or so. The school made a plaque bearing his name and it was put on a wall in the school hall as well, next to another student who had died before I came to the school.
I know that suicides are different, and a thousand times harder to deal with, but I just wanted to post what our school did, just in case it helps you in some way. :)
Ledgo
12th Nov 2010, 11:09 PM
I don't know if the school is legally allowed to do talk about a dead student in normal circumstances. Especially a suicide case.
I read about this in psychology, I don't know how much it holds true, but when one student commits suicide, it can lead to others who are on that same border to do so as well because that one student recieved attention for it.
And honestly, I don't think they need to go into it. If the family wanted them to, I can see that. However, without family permission, I don't think there is squat to do.
As for the Senior Curse, my school had a similar thing up until about three years ago since 1997. The last student I heard of dying in my school was in 2007 from a drunk driver.
StephSim
12th Nov 2010, 11:40 PM
I don't think there is a "legal" policy preventing it, but acceptable social practices (based on isolated studies of teen suicide and the copycat mentality).
But what about studies to share what happens when there is no outlet to deal with someone else's suicide?
There are other things that are just as self-destructive (if not deadly) as suicide that kids get into if they are not allowed to express or deal with suicide in a realistic way. I think schools that do things like building plaques to the student who took his/her own life are insane as it could be seen as a celebration of the death and a way to become eternally popular. In addition, while I think the copycat mentality is a truth...I also think it can happen as a result of not being able to talk about it in a safe environment with professional counselors involved.
It seems society tends to adopt extremes and norms as the ultimate answer....instead of individualizing each situation to meet the needs of those involved.
My suggestions if you are having problems dealing with it:
Talk to a counselour at school.
Talk to your parents (yes those people who don't understand you) and let them know it is bothering you.
Or if you can't talk to your parents...find an adult that you trust.
If you are into church...talk to someone there.
Remember that you are definitely not alone in what you are feeling, but it's important that you find a trusting and better professional adult to help you make sense of things.
I DON'T advise the following:
1) keeping quiet (as it can build up and lead to anxiety or other self-destructive behavior)
2) ONLY talking to friends (because if they are having trouble with it in the same way...it could lead to even more feelings of sadness and depression)
Note: I'm not saying not to talk to your friends, as this may be your ONLY outlet for a time. But be careful of doing so. If you are feeling worse after doing so...you may wish to find someone else to help you cope with what has happened.
It may take a while (for it is different for everyone) to be able to feel and be normal again...but it can and does happen when you get the right sort of help.
kakini
15th Nov 2010, 10:38 PM
I'm in 9th grade, and a girl my age recently commited suicide. I didn't even know her that well, and I was bent out of shape.
However, our school's reaction struck me as strange. Not a single one of my teachers said anything at all, and my friends who had her in classes said the same thing. They just all ignored it.
During the daily announcements, all that was said was 'Over the weekend, one of our students passed away. Our condolences go out the her family and friends.' That's all. What made me angrier is that before that they had spent about 10 minutes on a Future Farmer's of America announcement. I almost seemed like an afterthought. They didn't even offer grief counseling, and as 9th graders, we don't even know the high school guidence counselers.
My boyfriend said that the teacher's probably need to have a meeting about what to say and what not to say, but I think that is a student really needed to talk, shouldn't the teachers be allowed to? If I was a teacher, I would definantly say something.
So, do you think that my school handeled it the right way? Or should they have done something more?
RI.P. Lauren
When I was a junior in high school (about 6 years ago) a boy I knew commited suicide and our school pretty much did the same thing you are discribing. I live in the south, right in the middle of the bible belt, and it was a total and complete non-issue to the teachers. His death wasn't even announced until two days after his passing. This is where things changed a little. When it was announced, the boy's bestfriend had not even been told that he was dead. There had been no obituary in the paper, nothing. It was like his family was embarrassed by the loss of their son, not grieved that they did not get him the help he needed and was now dead. In my experience, when it became known to the "powers that be" at the school that they now had an emotionally distruaght teen on their hands, they offered counseling to the students that were close to the boy and began to organize a suicide prevention and awareness campaign for the school (which I think is still held every school year). I totally think in your situation that more should have been done and if you are still troubled by what happened, there is nothing wrong with looking up your guidance counsouler and talking with them about it. Personally, I think more needs to be done to prevent child/teen suicides. Adults are always quick to say that teens have nothing to be depressed about, but it's untrue. Teens are brutal to one another; there is nothing wrong with making your voice heard, especially in a situation like this.
Robodl95
15th Nov 2010, 11:05 PM
I'm in 9th grade and about a month ago a couple of our students were driving to school together and they got in a nasty car accident, all survived but 4/5 are still in rehab (last I've heard). The entire school was pretty shook up, I only knew the one little sister who is my grade but still scary... My school has done a very excellent job (well sorta, I feel like it's turned into a semi press release of how great we are with this...) They've informed us at various stages, they've offered support to those who need it, there have been fundraisers, cards etc. I'm sort of shocked at how some schools have treated situations like this!
When I was in 6th grade a 7th grader committed suicide, I feel like there was much less information presented then. I learned everything from gossip rather then the school...
Whether this is a matter of suicide vs. other or just the school improving it's student assistance (might just be a difference between Middle and Highschool too) I don't know
EmBat97
3rd Jan 2011, 12:02 AM
I had the same thing happen at my school, but it was one of my good friends. The school didn't do a lot about it, just held a gathering and get-together for people who were close to her. Where we could "talk it out."
DarthCookie
3rd Jan 2011, 06:57 PM
Well, one of the schools I went to, a person there committed suicide. And I really didn't think much of it, while others were pouring their hearts out, I gave my condolences and went on. I have much experience with people dying, relatives dying and its just taken a toll on me, so I barely even get hurt by death anymore. I just realized that its perfectly natural, and it happens. But suicide is never the best way out.
Pax
13th Jan 2011, 02:59 AM
A fellow student commited suicide last weekend. The school made an announcement and we had a moment of silence, and that was it.
Our culture has no time for death.
Mosomashu
29th Jun 2011, 11:55 AM
I know this thread has not had a post for 5 months, but I would like to add my thoughts.
The year before I joined the school I am in now, a boy in the year above me was killed in a hit-and-run accident. Obviously I don't know if there was an announcement, but the first year I was in the school, there was an assembly to commemorate the anniversary of his death and raise awareness of car accidents.
The closest personal experience I have of suicide is when my neighbour, who was also the father of a girl two years above me, committed suicide. I hadn't talked to him in two years bu I was still quite affected by it, and I'll admit to thinking of the girl as "the girl whose father killed himself" for a whole year afterward.
It obviously wasn't the school's business to go interfering there, and I think in general they should not go into too much detail when making announcements like the one at your school, but I do think maybe they should've made it longer than one sentence if they were allowed to legally or by the girl's parents, out of respect for her, although generally I don't think it is the school's business to go interfering. Maybe they could have held an assembly too, though.
Eternal
29th Jun 2011, 03:08 PM
My friend died back in November a few weeks apart from another guy. Both of them were athletes.
Everyone cared.
If your friend wasn't an athlete, then sorry, but they don't matter. :rolleyes:
rcranger9
29th Jun 2011, 05:35 PM
Personally, I don't think the school did the wrong thing. The parents probably wanted privacy about the matter and that's their decision. If someone who I've seen around but don't talk to much dies, I'm not going to grieve uncontrollably about it. Heck, I didn't even cry at my cousin's funeral, and he was 11 at the time. Death is a part of life, and I accept that. I don't believe that death is the end of existence, so there is no point in being sorry. I like to think that now their existence is better than their earthly one if I ever get down about it.
fraroc
29th Jun 2011, 06:49 PM
About a year ago, A girl from a neighboring school district had blown her head off with her father's gun because she was cyberbullied relentlessly on Formspring. There were death threats on her formspring, hate comments and other disgusting stuff, and she couldnt take it anymore! And the thing is, she was a rather popular girl! she was a cheerleader. And her "friends" had said that she had no friends and that she was a filthy whore. They even used the C-word! And even after she passed, her friends were STILL writing bad stuff about her and they even made a fanpage on facebook devoted to hating her after she died!!!!
It's fucking SICKENING how some human beings treat each other.
rcranger9
30th Jun 2011, 12:38 PM
There's another story like what fraroc said.This is an abridged story of Phoebe Prince.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6173960-504083.html
fraroc
30th Jun 2011, 01:07 PM
I was talking about Alexis Pinklington.
Robodl95
30th Jun 2011, 06:29 PM
Formspring is absolutely awful, I have seen it and people write horrible stuff on it. Facebook is bad enough but now it can be anonymous? @Fracroc that's so sad!
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