Focus pplz focus Think about vamp POWERs

[Modder_Sim]

Vampiric powers

[Modder_Sim]

Now Why is it that when i got the game i was really looking forward to the powers......... Well it seems.........Some of the powers are a real let down heres why:

1. Super-speed isnt really super speed, its jus human(normal)sim run only slightly and i mean SLIGHTLY faster.

2. There isnt a set cool down rate for Vampiric powers such as read mind and make sim think of me.

3.There aint a killer bite like the mod made for vamps in Sims 2 Night life.

3. Vamps life spam is completely BS and i mean BSSSS, i mean how the hell does EA have the ordasity to say vamps live for a VERY long time when they only get 100 days in addition to their orginal life days prior to them becoming a vamp.

Now tell me ppl you know im right in sayin this so lets stop whining bout the damn instruments, and CAS and lets focus on the MAIN feature of LN

[FriendlyQuark]

I use cheats to change ages, etc, so that isn't an issue for me, they will live as long as I want them too. :)

The bite is LAME, yes. You don't get to see them do anything! How hard would it have been to animate that? Even a wrist bite?

Super speed only seems to be there so you don't have to deal with them crisping in the sun. Sims2 vamps were made of matches, they burned all the damn time, this is better, but they still ought to smoke or something in sunlight.

The powers of reading minds etc seem very limited.

However, the whole skill fast at night thing...awesome sauce! I also really like the glowy eyes. Though having vamp babies is kinda creepy.

[twilightgarden0]

Not super crazy about the powers, although reading minds has assisted my vampires in becoming celebrities. It kind of makes me wish there was some way for normal sims to do it too.

I like that vegetarian vampires get a negative moodlet from drinking real blood. That was a nice touch. I like the fast skills at night. And I'm crazy about vampire babies! I love them! I just think a few things could have been done better. I really wish their lifespans were a lot longer too. Maybe they're will be a mod for it in the future.

[zaroba]

if the whole family is vampires, you could just disable aging via the in-game settings.

[moryrie]

Or use the crazy fast skilling to gain the skills to make ambrosia.

[simbalena]

The bite is LAME, yes. You don't get to see them do anything!

That's not true, when my sim got bitten I saw that the vampire had a long weird tongue that kind of resembled a hotdog!

[nestfilms]

The vamps DO smoke in the sunlight or at least on mine they do.
and they could never do a killing bite that amounts to murder...you're never going to get that in the sims are you?

[silverbeadchick]

The vamp thing in TS2 was way cool. They really had it down.

[Modder_Sim]

But Guys i have to admit i really pee'd off about the super-speed, i mean for god sake it said on their website that vamps move INSANLY fast i assumed it would be faster than +10 Speed cars, i really do HOPE someone makes a mod for this.

[brillo_pad]

But Guys i have to admit i really pee'd off about the super-speed, i mean for god sake it said on their website that vamps move INSANLY fast i assumed it would be faster than +10 Speed cars, i really do HOPE someone makes a mod for this.

Totally! Also, I'd love to see my vamps actually run again.. I've got some bug where I tell them to run and they just walk, but normal sims are able to run. I'll have to figure out what's up - but it would help if anyone else had the same problem and has found a solution. :)

[FriendlyQuark]

That's not true, when my sim got bitten I saw that the vampire had a long weird tongue that kind of resembled a hotdog!

Somehow I missed this. My vamp bit a girl at a club and there was a darting motion and then the food motive was filled and I didn't see anything. I will have to test this again.

[Jaeger]

if the whole family is vampires, you could just disable aging via the in-game settings.

And other sims babies will not age up. No.

[Jaeger]

Has anybody took a vamp (with no MA) to Al Simhara and fight a mummy?

[Modder_Sim]

Now see Jaeger thts wat im wondering are vamps stronger than mummies?

[Modder_Sim]

But still i cant wait till someone makes vampire mods that are specified for there powers

[Arisuka]

I haven't yet played vampires much, but when I tried to make my vampire-sim drink from his hunt target the sim was like YOU AIN'T GONNA DRINK FROM ME YOU NASTY THING. So does this mean that the vampires aren't able to sneak up on random sims and just drink their blood without being.. friends with them? O_________o

[GrizBehr]

Haven't played Vamps at all either, but my understanding is you have to "seduce" them...probably get them to where "Sim thinks Sim is acting friendly"...but don't quote me on that

[Modder_Sim]

Yep thts precisely it, Cant believe we have to friends with sims in order to drink from them, however i use the alternative i jus drink plasma juice from the fridge.

BTW i have (through the use of ALOT OF LIFE FRUIT) have increased my vamps life span to 13,459 days.

But back to the topic at hand how many of u guys think we should get an increase on vamps powers?

[GnatGoSplat]

From TS2, I miss the ability to "Fly Here". Yeah, I know the modern brooding vampire can't turn into a bat, but they should have thrown in a bit of old school vamp.
I also miss "Bleh". It was cute.
One thing I would have liked is Vampire Sunblock cream, either buy-able as a Buy Mode item or a Lifetime Reward. It could be a very expensive item to work towards getting.

[Modder_Sim]

Yea but Gnat vamps dont need sunblock cuz they dont die in the sun, in fact this new sunlight system is far much better because vamps instead od dying become weakened and lose their powers for about 2 days.

[DarkAmaranth]

You have to find a traget that isn't brave, the brave ones stand up to you. Sometimes others do if they know vampires - maybe because they were lunch earlier and know the drill? Easier to make friends, then it's a possitive social to have a drink. Paterened after the RL subculture of vampires having donors I guess.

[Captain THPS4]

I agree about the vampire run not being fast enough, fast run needs to be fast!

[GnatGoSplat]

Yea but Gnat vamps dont need sunblock cuz they dont die in the sun, in fact this new sunlight system is far much better because vamps instead od dying become weakened and lose their powers for about 2 days.

They don't die, but mine always passes out. Then they get bad celebrity press for passing out in public. That part is pretty dumb. Somehow, I doubt celebrities lose friends and look bad in the public eye if they fall ill and pass out in public.

[treeag]

Yea but Gnat vamps dont need sunblock cuz they dont die in the sun, in fact this new sunlight system is far much better because vamps instead od dying become weakened and lose their powers for about 2 days.

They die in the sun in my game :blink: my very first vampire just died because I ignored the smokes and the negative moodlet and didn't send him indoor.

[Modder_Sim]

Weird my vamps dont die in the sun but instead become weakend and like i said my vamps lose their powers for about 2 days.

[Amaira]

I think the main thing that annoys me with the vamps is trying to take them on vacation. I think in China and Paris it wouldn't be that big of a deal but in Egypt it is a pain! I have to try and keep them in the tents all day but then they pop out and are like "oh oh why are you making me stand in the sun?! Oh oh I want to retreat indoors!" and I'm just like you numbskull I kept telling you to stay in the friggin' tent get your butt back in there and stop whining at me. So yeah.... that annoys me.

[Modder_Sim]

Overall Vamps should get a re-vamp either by mods or a patch what do you guys think?

[taizhu]

Having celebrity vamps is somewhat of a pain in the neck. They can't go out to clubs and bite people in public without getting the walk of shame for 3 days. They basically have to lure their prey into the bathroom for some private time (hopefully) since there are no empty rooms at clubs. But mine keep getting caught by the paparazzi (even through walls, which means that paparazzi can see into other rooms when walls are down).

[taizhu]

Also, I've very annoyed by the evil cackle when hunting and reading minds. If we can't turn people or drink by force--why have them seem evil at all?

[SuicidiaParasidia]

idk guys. i think its pretty stupid to have to ask permission to feed. how many vampires in vampire lore have you seen/read/heard of walk(ing) up to someone and kindly attempt(ing) to persuade them to give up their life force? -_-


its laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.


but then i really think they couldve pleased everyone just by adding 2 feeding options, aside from forceful.
1) something like a friendly version of feeding where your sim wont get FULL, but the victim survives.
2) an option to feed and restore ones' hunger entirely, at the price of killing off the victim sim.

[claudiasharon]

Overall Vamps should get a re-vamp either by mods or a patch what do you guys think?

This. Someone with awesome modding powers to make a super awesome vampire mod that isn't a core mod would be...well awesome.

I thought the sims 2 vampires were kind of lame, and then I saw the sims 3 vampires. Really lame.

You shouldn't have to be friends with someone to drink their blood. You should to turn them maybe, but not to feed.

Give it time, someone out there will eventually make a mod to fix the fail of the vampires.

And is it just me, or do they seem a tad bit...Twilighty? I just get these Twilight vibes from them and it's kind of weird.

[Celebriton]

I like the current vampire in LN. It's not so extremely powerful that spoiled the gameplay or very punishable. It's right in the middle, very balance and fun. It feel like Vampire the Masquerade.

The only thing I want is ability to drink anyone without need to build relationship first. Call it as hypnotize, drink and forget it. I don't want to build relationship with my food. ;)

[jerin8]

I was never big on Vampires and haven't played one yet in LN but seeing how well "un vampire-like" they are makes me even less interested. How well plenty of other things to enjoy about the EP.

[jerin8]

also I appears that EA was after the younger market by making vampires so much apart of every day social life and making their bite friendly. This is definitely a Twilight thing. Too bad because the ones that actually PAY for their merchandise are not the kids that are Twilight crazy. My daughter had me read the first book and frankly it was way too juvenile girl for me.

[Amaira]

I don't get the Twilight vibe. Which actually surprised me because I had my guard up about it despite what EA said about it not being Twilight. The only real similarity I see is that these vamps can, if you want them to get pissed at you, go in the sun. Bad effects happen when they do but they don't die like your traditional vamps.

I believe that the "friendly" biting was an attempt on EA's part to keep any possibilities of complaints from fanatic parents, we all know they are out there. Parents that would complain up a storm if there was stuff like "violent" biting in the game. In my opinion it wasn't a good route for them. The game is already rated for teen so they should have allowed for that and just had the option for friendly or violent. Twilight faeries drink animal blood and sparkle neither of which or sims do thank goodness.

Mind reading is a similarity but I think that was simply EA not able to think of any other power they could give vampires. I mean your traditional vampire usually will have more subtle powers like seduction, manipulation, and extreme amounts of strength. I think EA wanted something more... uh obvious I dunno the word for it.

[Modder_Sim]

I completely agree with taizhu and especially with SuicidiaParasidia's on feeding because thats what vamps actually do, they either half feed where the victim survives or they go to town on the feeding and drain dat azz completely leaving the sim dead.

I also agree with what Amaria is saying, that because these vamps arent as traditional as the ones from sims 2 they dont have enough powers or not as many.

I do wish we could feed from other vampire sims, considering sims dont acutally die but instead go through a metomorphesis(might have spelt it wrong).

what do u guys think?

[brillo_pad]

I love the vamps, personally.. apart from the eyes glowing all the time, and the kind of beige/grey-glowy overlay they get, I also don't think they feed for long enough. But I LOVE the fangs!! They look mean! The "hunt" behaviour is hilarious.

[GnatGoSplat]

I would have liked to see the following options:

Drink - Only shows up if the target sim is a friend of the vampire and has same interaction as current.
Drink by force - Shows up instead of Drink if target sim is not a friend. Instead of offering his/her arm, the vamp forcefully grabs target sim's arm while target sim attempts to struggle. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, partial energy drain, and relationship decrease.
Drain - Shows up only if target sim is not a friend. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, energy drain, relationship decrease, passing out, with random chance of death.

[brillo_pad]

I would have liked to see the following options:

Drink - Only shows up if the target sim is a friend of the vampire and has same interaction as current.
Drink by force - Shows up instead of Drink if target sim is not a friend. Instead of offering his/her arm, the vamp forcefully grabs target sim's arm while target sim attempts to struggle. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, partial energy drain, and relationship decrease.
Drain - Shows up only if target sim is not a friend. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, energy drain, relationship decrease, passing out, with random chance of death.

I don't read posts properly, so I got mega excited at these actions... then I read it properly and realised :(

...yeah, those actions would be awesome!

[taylorr!]

I would have liked to see the following options:

Drink - Only shows up if the target sim is a friend of the vampire and has same interaction as current.
Drink by force - Shows up instead of Drink if target sim is not a friend. Instead of offering his/her arm, the vamp forcefully grabs target sim's arm while target sim attempts to struggle. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, partial energy drain, and relationship decrease.
Drain - Shows up only if target sim is not a friend. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, energy drain, relationship decrease, passing out, with random chance of death.

You see, we need people with epic ideas like you on the EA team for people who buy the games, someone who knows what the people want without adding some childish bits in it :D
And lol, i don't even own The Sims 3 :rofl: . Stupid laptop :( But i like the community 'coz their epic like that :king:

[twilightgarden0]

I would have liked to see the following options:

Drink - Only shows up if the target sim is a friend of the vampire and has same interaction as current.
Drink by force - Shows up instead of Drink if target sim is not a friend. Instead of offering his/her arm, the vamp forcefully grabs target sim's arm while target sim attempts to struggle. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, partial energy drain, and relationship decrease.
Drain - Shows up only if target sim is not a friend. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, energy drain, relationship decrease, passing out, with random chance of death.

Ooooh. Someone should totally make that into a mod.

Although, my vampires seem to have been able to drink from anyone they encounter. Friend, enemy, or otherwise.

[el_flel]

I don't get the Twilight vibe. Which actually surprised me because I had my guard up about it despite what EA said about it not being Twilight. The only real similarity I see is that these vamps can, if you want them to get pissed at you, go in the sun. Bad effects happen when they do but they don't die like your traditional vamps.Same. I totally thought EA were going to make them all lame and Twilight-y. Even the going out in the sun I don't mind (and prefer, in TS2 it was so frickin hard to keep a job without bursting into flame) because it does have negative effects - they lose their powers and can die eventually - and because some lore says they can go out in the sun.

[brillo_pad]

I would love to see a "neck bite is not a romantic social" mod! Fo' realzz y'all!

[Modder_Sim]

So we can agree we would all like to c more improved vampiric powers.

[LethalLaurie]

3. Vamps life spam is completely BS and i mean BSSSS, i mean how the hell does EA have the ordasity to say vamps live for a VERY long time when they only get 100 days in addition to their orginal life days prior to them becoming a vamp.


Huh, it might have to do with the lifespan the neighborhood is set at. I have mine on 'epic' and my vampire Sim has roughly 1,100 days until the next life stage, which is a significant difference from his normal Sim roommate, who has just barely over 200 days. :/

[brillo_pad]

I would have liked to see the following options:

Drink - Only shows up if the target sim is a friend of the vampire and has same interaction as current.
Drink by force - Shows up instead of Drink if target sim is not a friend. Instead of offering his/her arm, the vamp forcefully grabs target sim's arm while target sim attempts to struggle. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, partial energy drain, and relationship decrease.
Drain - Shows up only if target sim is not a friend. Should give target sim a negative moodlet, energy drain, relationship decrease, passing out, with random chance of death.

If anyone was to mod this it'd be really difficult to look good, because I think these actions would require new animation.

Still, I live in hope.

[ac220]

Non-hostile non-painful bites only isn't Twillight. It's "Rated T for Teen". (And actually there were pre-Twillight precedents, for example, that's how vamp bite works by default in the World of Darkness (old one at least). )

[J. M. Pescado]

The bite is LAME, yes. You don't get to see them do anything! How hard would it have been to animate that? Even a wrist bite?You see a drawback, I see an advantage: If you can't see it, you can't see it not doing it, either, so you can now make it do anything you want.

The powers of reading minds etc seem very limited.Of course it's limited. Sims don't actually have minds!

[el_flel]

If you want your vampires to only drink from human sims then make them learn charisma. Once they've got some of those perks, all they have to do is meet a sim and they'll instantly become friends with them, then the human sim won't turn them down.

[[Black_Spirit]]

Those vampires are part of the sim society and recognized as vampires, so, to me, it's seems normal that they ask before biting someone. It's all about integration :) lol
Of course EA made this choice because the sims 3 is a non violent game, but I believe it's not so stupid.

[FlamingoKicker]

I've never liked playing vampires anyway (Sims 2 or Sims 3) so I guess the (typical) over assessment by EA of how great their contributions are goes unnoticed by me. I still like the pack though.

I've found the game is what you bring to it more than most games. So players have to make the game interesting more than expect EA to do it.

[brillo_pad]

If you want your vampires to only drink from human sims then make them learn charisma. Once they've got some of those perks, all they have to do is meet a sim and they'll instantly become friends with them, then the human sim won't turn them down.

I've never had one of my vamps turned down... I was looking forward to seeing that, but I think it's because I'd given them the Attractive and Eye Candy LTRw traits.

[Chewie1802]

Other things I would wish for my vampires:
- Vampire teeth for teens and kids
- the ability for vampire teens to bite and transform other teens and adults (like in Sims 2 with a mod)

[Purity4]

My 5 year old calls vampires, vampowers. So cute.

[brillo_pad]

Has anybody notice that vamps don't dream? I only just realised.. See..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5158602703_bfba28ea63_m.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/5159212508_cf40f3585d_m.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1344/5158602957_b3052dabd2_m.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1257/5159212762_2322a4fafd_m.jpg

Has anybody noticed this, and do you think it's intentional? Is it supposed to mean that they're dead.. idk..

[Modder_Sim]

LethalLaurie i was talking in terms of when u DONT have epic age settings.

[[Black_Spirit]]

LethalLaurie i was talking in terms of when u DONT have epic age settings.

They live 80 days longer in normal mode. Which is already quite a lot

[brillo_pad]

I love that new "Like Immortal" vampire aging mod by Tremerion! Awesome, Awesome, Awesome...

Anyway. About the vampowers... ehem. I wish you could see them climb things and jump and stuff, but I suppose that there's not much call for it in this game, yet...

[deadhampster51]

I wish that the vampires in the game could put sims they don't know into a trance to suck their blood (since most older vamps in movies could do this) and this would help get around having to ask for permission. Maybe someone can make a mod for that, or maybe copy the animation from the sims 2.

[brillo_pad]

I wish that the vampires in the game could put sims they don't know into a trance to suck their blood (since most older vamps in movies could do this) and this would help get around having to ask for permission. Maybe someone can make a mod for that, or maybe copy the animation from the sims 2.

Or just have an attack option... that would have been nice, and tbf.. if EA made it kind of comical, like the bar brawls and fights, it would have been more than suitable for the lower ages.

[CountessClaidie]

there some plus and minus's here when you think of the Night Life from Sims 2 in that Vampires was truely Immortal, but you also had the whole turning to ash from being in sunlight and the horrible decay of motives
the sims 3 version is not Immortal, but you can stand out in the sun for a little while before you turn into ash ;)

I like the incrased learning rate but frankly it seemes kinda buggy sometimes it gives me ++ on something othertimes it don't also it don't seeme to effect books >_> also i find vampire guests somewhat a trouble ; ; they keep dying on me as they never seeme to have the commen sense to eat before coming none of my guests do i mean i have the party table out but they never eat out of that >_>

[Bandon]

also i find vampire guests somewhat a trouble ; ; they keep dying on me as they never seeme to have the commen sense to eat before coming none of my guests do i mean i have the party table out but they never eat out of that >_>

All of the original day-1 vampires are still in my game. None of them have seen fit to meet the true death yet. Maybe this method will work to thin them out a little lol. A fresh new smaller group of vampires would be better.

[CountessClaidie]

All of the original day-1 vampires are still in my game. None of them have seen fit to meet the true death yet. Maybe this method will work to thin them out a little lol. A fresh new smaller group of vampires would be better.

my vampire is the only one left in the city, elvira and the rest all died during my parties one guest even pointed nad laughed ... you gotta love the evil trait >_>

[Rawra]

I love that new "Like Immortal" vampire aging mod by Tremerion! Awesome, Awesome, Awesome...

Anyway. About the vampowers... ehem. I wish you could see them climb things and jump and stuff, but I suppose that there's not much call for it in this game, yet...
Cool, can you give a link?

[brillo_pad]

Cool, can you give a link?

It's on this site: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=424351

[Rawra]

Thanks, brillo.

[Kindergoat54]

I had a few vampires in TS2 and they were kind of fun, but in TS3 I can't seem to find any vampires yet. Maybe I need to go to different bars.

[simbalena]

I had three vampires and one of them started having the night vampowers moodlet all the time. Is this a bug or did she do something to get it to stay there permanently?