Sims 3 Generations.

[goteampink]

I was thinking this morning that something I would like in Generations is more part-time job options for teens. Like maybe there could be a mall, with places to shop and eat, and teens could work at all the shops, kind of like the old Sims...
Edit: But this is just me dreaming, lol.

[frankie]

I was thinking this morning that something I would like in Generations is more part-time job options for teens. Like maybe there could be a mall, with places to shop and eat, and teens could work at all the shops, kind of like the old Sims...
Edit: But this is just me dreaming, lol.

And while you're at it, why not have a shopping mall rabbit hole with all the stores and restaurants bundled inside of it as a space saver? It'd be perfect for the tiny worlds that don't have room for too many lots.

[sharkloverplayer]

Hope Generations adds dating,chemistry and attraction. They missed that with late night. Outings don't count because two sims on a group won't sit at the same table thou I guess that's cause of a bug they won't fix. They messed up the outings bad.

[Asuka123]

The fact that a midlife crisis is mentioned raises my hopes that something will eventually be done to make the "adult" stage more interesting - instead of a continuation of "young adult" with barely any difference. Several people wished for it in the speculation thread, I think, and it sounded like something that could have potential; I'm really looking forward to it. Interactions for kids and toddlers will be more than welcome as well.
I wonder if there will be any strange features or weird creatures, I usually don't play those but there seems to be one in every EP and I don't have any idea what could fit the theme of this expansion pack.

[sharkloverplayer]

I hope it will open up the ocean for swimming and add more beach activities.

[LoonehWannabe]

Here's a mental list of all the creatures from TS2 and comments:

-Vampires: Already have 'em
-Werewolves: They're saving them for a Pets EP
-Witches: No, doesn't fit in at all
-Aliens: Too easy to make already
-Zombies: Maybe it could work....
-Servos: Again, we already have them
-Bigfoot: Perhaps...

So I can really only think of Bigfoot and Zombies.

Bigfoot could be found in the woods of [Insert town here] and Sims can take him home!

Zombies can be Sims that previously died and their spouse/parents/kids brought them back to life with the Ghost oppurtunity that failed.

New traits....

-Loves the Elderly: Will help the elderly garden, take care of family, etc. Teens and up.

-Peacemaker: Good at fixing relationships between two other Sims, etc. Could tie into a family counseling career.

[LoonehWannabe]

It redirects me to a trouble page, Wojtek, but thanks anyway.

[LoonehWannabe]

Nice... I was just being hopefull, ya know.

[Lonelywillow]

That's why I gave you the link. To prove there is no Generations yet. EA didn't confirm it so it's only a rumor.

It is not just a rumor.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp

Search for Sims 3 if it is no longer front page....


EA is just concentrating on TSM too much.

[ticklish]

Yes if was a rumor they would not have sent generations too esrb for review if it was. In 3 weeks when medieval is out then generations be on the front page on the sims 3 site

[baratron]

That's why I gave you the link. To prove there is no Generations yet. EA didn't confirm it so it's only a rumor.
However, this link works: http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep4/systemreq

The name Generations is given in the side bar where the names of the EPs go. Compare it to http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep3/systemreq which shows Late Night.

We can take Pescado's line that any game that hasn't been released yet is "Lies and propaganda", or assume that if the name has appeared on a page on the official Sims 3 site, then it's probably real.

[CloudWalkerNZ]

This is what I think of Sim3 Generation :giggler:

My impression (http://www.thesims3.com/contentDetail.html?contentId=306816) :lol:

[Robodl95]

That's why I gave you the link. To prove there is no Generations yet. EA didn't confirm it so it's only a rumor.
The name is listed on the EA site, the System Requirements were listed and then taken down, what exactly do you want? It'll be announced any day now, unless you're proposing that EA was hacked then why else would they list a game with a small description? It's obviously true just like all the times a game is listed on 4-5 online stores but it "doesn't exist" until EA says so (and then it's announced 2 days later)...

The strange thing is that I was actually more skeptical at the fact that we haven't seen any stores pick up on this title yet.

[Inge Jones]

Lol! I love that ad. Yes it sums up a lot of player comments, who really appear to think they might die if the next EP does not provide pets, weather or magic in various combinations. My personal death sentence will be if there is no weather ;)

[Laisanae]

I hope it will open up the ocean for swimming and add more beach activities.

And more pool interactions.
There could be beach balls, tanning, and swim belts for children, and toddlers too. Parents could teach their toddlers swimming, that would be cute. :)

[smacksim2]

That's a really funny video CloudwalkerNZ! You could keep the community updated with 'news' broadcasts relating to the rumor mill: "Fact: Late Night is BROKEN! ALL simmers agree: 'There's nothing to do there!'" and etc.. The Simmington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) (real world link for example of 'news').

[jonha]

However, this link works: http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep4/systemreq

The name Generations is given in the side bar where the names of the EPs go. Compare it to http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep3/systemreq which shows Late Night.

On the german translated page is says "Lebensfreude" there, which translates rougly to "lust for life" or "vitality".

I would really like, if that EP would add more content for children and elders, because they currently have nothing to do and are mostly more limited versions of adults.

What I like of "generations" is that it doesn't focus on one special aspect like vacation, jobs or "city life" like before. I really hope, that they will make the basic "life at home" of the Sims more interesting, adding more interactions, links and situations between people so they react better to each other, have more interesting relationships (A loves B but B hates A for example), dating, and having more interactions for children, teens, and maybe elders.

I didn't expect them to add weather now, because weather adds a winter theme so they will likely publish it around winter. And while I would like more animals, I don't care much about pets and I think the game needs more fixing and polishing before adding completely new stuff.

[rian90]

What will make Generations work for me is if they put enough into it to make it better than the base Sims 2 game. More family interaction sound great..an EP that focuses on the home sounds great. But I don't want to pay for an EP that essentially gives us what we had before. I doubt I would be happy if it gave us what Free Time had. This is the new, shiny Sims 3! We want something more. I can certainly live without pets and while I like weather, I could do without it. But I want my sims to be more interesting! I want some of the old stuff...dating, more things for kids to do, but I also want more. I am not keen about caricatures of mid-life crisis and teen angst, but I would certainly love to see the sims more reactive to each other and what goes on in the world. We have snobby sims that look down on non-celebrities so I don't see why we can't have more interaction between sims based on family ties and on traits. I loved how my Sims 2 sim could be happily married to someone with a 1 lightning bolt and then meet that number 3 and fall madly in love without any help from me. :)

[Robodl95]

I'm curious about what the "big thing" will be. Interactions and clothing and objects are all great but nothing too special right? WA had traveling/adventuring, Ambitions had professions, LN had clubbing/celebrities all in addition to lots of cool clothing, objects, interactions, etc.

[uchuujin]

I am going to be most seriously displeased if there isn't any weather. It's been said, but there needs to be a... special feature besides new interactions.

That said, I'm remembering all the snowball fights my sim families would have in S2. Family interaction, no? I could see a beach outing included too, so swimming could be in... The beaches are pretty much useless as it is.

As for supernatural creatures.. I'm hoping for something totally new, like:
-Elves
-Dryads/Nymphs
-Fairies/Sidhe

Or leprechauns? That would be hysterical. :jest:

[TUN3R]

I hope it's fake. I mean honestly, Generations? I don't know what could be worse, EA running out of ideas or just pissing me off on purpose...

Just bring back what was good from TS2 and you can bury the series, it's dead anyways...

[WayBack]

On the german translated page is says "Lebensfreude" there, which translates rougly to "lust for life" or "vitality".

And in Czech, the title is "Hratky osudu", which means "Games of fate/destiny". Generations, lust for life, destiny? Could it be more vague? :wtf: Oh well, I just wish we could finally get the official announcement with more info.

[ticklish]

It is not fake it has already been rated by the esrb.

[simsample]

On the german translated page is says "Lebensfreude" there, which translates rougly to "lust for life" or "vitality".

And in Czech, the title is "Hratky osudu", which means "Games of fate/destiny". Generations, lust for life, destiny?

Curiouser and curiouser! These titles could include almost anything, it goes to show you can't really draw any conclusions from the title alone.

[TUN3R]

It is not fake it has already been rated by the esrb.

Back to GTA then.

[xdawnx5]

I think one of the things i miss most about the sims 2 would have to be the memories :lovestruc i would love to have them back! also things like uni and holiday camps for kids/teens would be good :p

[acid_fairy]

You know what a Sims EP NEEDS? Collections!! I am so fed up of downloading a set from the store and then not being able to find all the pieces. Drives me mad!

[jonha]

Curiouser and curiouser! These titles could include almost anything, it goes to show you can't really draw any conclusions from the title alone.

But they lead into the same direction and I think I can take a guess.

Generations sounds to me like different Generation and different age groups in one family, which can mean, that the expansion will focus more on stuff for specific age groups and interactions between age groups. We all know children and teens have not much interactions and there are not much possibilities to interact with toddlers/babies either, so it's possible that EA will want to fix this.

"Lebensfreude" (lust for life) is a term in german, which is often (but not necessarily always) used to describe old people ("they have still some lust for life / vitality"). This goes into the same direction as above and could mean, we get more stuff to do for elders. But it could also mean, we get stuff for all age groups to enhance their lives.

Fate/destiny sounds interesting. Maybe we get an enhanced lifetime wish system, may be fortune tellers, and it sounds like we will get new deaths.

[uchuujin]

I think one of the things i miss most about the sims 2 would have to be the memories :lovestruc i would love to have them back! also things like uni and holiday camps for kids/teens would be good :p

I loved the memories! Made it more complicated, but it was cute to be able to look back and remember what the hell I've been doing with that particular sim.
"Oh yeah! I forgot, I had you fight a ton of mummies just so you'd get cursed. Fun times, eh?"

I think they're deliberately being vague. It builds the hype. That's not to say they aren't likely to tick people off. :|

[smacksim2]

You know what a Sims EP NEEDS? Collections!! I am so fed up of downloading a set from the store and then not being able to find all the pieces. Drives me mad!
Speaking of collections, I'd buy an EP if it just sub-categorized clothing and hair, and you could drag-and-drop:

Categories


EA stuff I never want to see again, ever, but can't be deleted, but can be made inactive and unavailable.
My top 20 items (shows this by default)
T-shirts
Jeans
Skirts
Etc..

Waiting for lists to populate in CAS / Stylist is worng.

[kennyinbmore]

You know what a Sims EP NEEDS? Collections!! I am so fed up of downloading a set from the store and then not being able to find all the pieces. Drives me mad!

I'm with you on that. It boggles my mind how they omitted such small things from TS3

[aeval99]

I'm curious about what the "big thing" will be. Interactions and clothing and objects are all great but nothing too special right? WA had traveling/adventuring, Ambitions had professions, LN had clubbing/celebrities all in addition to lots of cool clothing, objects, interactions, etc.
It might just be wishful thinking (several of us were speculating about this in the Ideas and Speculation thread (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=352890&c=1&ht=&page=38&pp=25#startcomments) )but the big thing could be some new life stages. It's kinda stupid to have a mid-life crisis when you have no middle-age Sims. Others have been asking for a pre-teen state. Middle age should be pretty easy to program since all the animations would be the same or similar. Pre-teens would definitely be a lot of animation work.

I'm guessing that the supernatural creature will be a zombie, since that's another life state...errr, undead state.

With a new age group, de-wormed babies, more things to do with babies and children and some emphasis on older Sims (perhaps adding some medical issues for those Ambitions doctors) and some new activities, I do think they have enough for a new pack there. I'm thinking of something along the lines of an all ages Freetime but without all the annoying clubs and magazines.

[ani_]

It's kinda stupid to have a mid-life crisis when you have no middle-age Sims. I always assumed an adult sim is the same as middle aged. Or what do you mean there is no middle ages Sims?

[RoseCity]

I always assumed an adult sim is the same as middle aged...
I agree, and since Ambitions they have the lined faces to prove it. (They may not be the best executed lines, but that's another story.)

[aeval99]

I always assumed an adult sim is the same as middle aged. Or what do you mean there is no middle ages Sims?
Middle age would be 40ish to 60ish. I don't think the adult Sims look anything like middle-aged. They all look about 25-30 to me.

I would just like my Sims to have one more transition between 'I can proudly wear a mini-skirt and halter top' and 'I'm slumped over, with one foot in the grave'.

I know it's possible to use cc eyebags, wrinkles etc. to make adult sims seem older, I just would prefer to have more ages represented in the game.

[Robodl95]

Middle age would be 40ish to 60ish. I don't think the adult Sims look anything like middle-aged. They all look about 25-30 to me.

I would just like my Sims to have one more transition between 'I can proudly wear a mini-skirt and halter top' and 'I'm slumped over, with one foot in the grave'.

I know it's possible to use cc eyebags, wrinkles etc. to make adult sims seem older, I just would prefer to have more ages represented in the game.

YAs are about 20-35ish and Adults seem about 35-55ish, I feel bad for that 25 yr old with those terrible wrinkles! I think adult sims look pretty appropriate.

What about an old people's home? And nursery school for toddlers/day care center?

[Lonelywillow]

And nursery school for toddlers/day care center?

I would love a day care center, or at least the chance to make play dates for your toddlers.
I want my Sims to be friends since kindergarden but mothers don't take their kids with them when invited to a party and as there are no strollers you can't take your baby with you when you go to the park.

And I want a changing table and be able to bath my toddler, it's just so stupid to throw your child in the air. It worked in Sims 2, why did we have to go back to Sims 1 babies?

[mickeymouse254]

I think new life stages would be a welcome edition. Maybe Preschooler, Preteen and Middle aged. Toddlers would be from 1-3, preeschoolers 4-5, children 6-9, preteens 10-13, teens 14-17, YA 18-25, Adult 25-39, Middle Aged 40-63 Elder 63 and above. Sounds about right

[Purity4]

I would love a day care center, or at least the chance to make play dates for your toddlers.
I want my Sims to be friends since kindergarden but mothers don't take their kids with them when invited to a party and as there are no strollers you can't take your baby with you when you go to the park.

And I want a changing table and be able to bath my toddler, it's just so stupid to throw your child in the air. It worked in Sims 2, why did we have to go back to Sims 1 babies?

Or more practically, there are no slings (baby/toddler carriers) in game that could increase social for the babies/toddlers while the parent (yes, mom or dad) carrying the infant or toddler could carry on with their life, just as is done in real life. (while mom is carrying, breastfeeding could occur without anything seen if infant/toddler is being carried in a sling, so no one would have to worry about hunger decreasing and the whole family being interrupted for feedings)

[Robodl95]

But adults are the middle aged group....

I doubt that we'll get new age groups, besides the "adult" type ages which would work (but unnecessary imho) preschoolers and preteens would require an entire wardrobe and all the animations reworked for them. Adding an age stage seems like something that they would do at the beginning of a series not tack on in the middle (TS2 Uni does not count because YAs were simply adults with a different name)

[cupcake12winx]

If we need any new life stage, it's a pre-teen one. Hasn't EA realized yet that nobody goes from a 3-foot-tall five-year-old to a 5-foot-tall 15-year-old in one day?! There needs to be something in the middle.

[Lonelywillow]

You can walk your baby to the park, but once you're there, you have to hold her the whole time or else put her on the ground. It's too bad they can't lay down a blanket, just like the picnic blanket, for babies to crawl on, or practice sitting up (with help) on.

That's the problem, toddlers can't really interact with one another.
If not a rabbit hole for them where they can make friends (like kids can do at school) there should be playgrounds or a sandbox or something other than two kids sitting on the floor.

[lewisb40]

The closest I can get the toddlers to interact is placing dollhouses and activity tables in many of the community lots. Then it is hit or miss, hoping the inactive toddlers need social and fun to use the darn things.

I really hope the new EP will add more toddler interactions, any new children and toddler interactions. Teens too.

[Tony97]

Intiresting, I wounder what they will add! This better be worth it. i hope they add things like weather, pets and maybe an age group between child and teen? Or have a way to simulate growth?

[Robodl95]

Is there inheritance in TS3? I'd like to see that return...

[lewisb40]

Is there inheritance in TS3? I'd like to see that return...

I haven't played EA's story progression in a long time, so I don't know if there is inheritance in a vanilla game. I played with AwesomeMod and Twallan's sp, I know for sure there is inheritance in the latter. One of my sims gained money when an elder in Riverview died. I know for sure I was playing Twallan's at the time.

If it's not in an unmodded game, then it should be. There should be a reason to make long time friends in the game.

[CinderEmma]

No inheritance in vanilla, I played for a few month without any CC or expansions and it's not there.

[ani_]

If it's not in an unmodded game, then it should be. There should be a reason to make long time friends in the game. I'm actually happy there is no inheritance. What made inheritance such a turn off in TS2 was the fact that the money came from no-where. If they do bring inheritance back, hopefully the money is divided from the household funds.

One good toddler/kid interaction would be a toddler swing. And kids should be able to push them on it.

[Miss Harlequin]

As far as wish lists go, I wouldn't mind staking all the vampires in my town and wiping them all out permanently.

If they added vampire slayers we could play out Buffy!!! :D

Yeah...not going to happen :'(

[LollySims]

If they added vampire slayers we could play out Buffy!!! :D

Yeah...not going to happen :'(

You know that never occurred to me before, but it would've been kind of cool in TS3 if with each supernatural creature we got we would've also gotten their nemesis (maybe playable Sims could've even built skills or gotten a coinciding career to become them). Like a slayer or Van Helsing-type for vampires, special agents (think Mulder & Skully ;)) for aliens, werewolf hunter, zombie killer, mummy killer (not sure who would be "traditional" here), etc. It would've made Sims 3 unique from Sims 2, and given added dimension while playing as said creatures.

Who knows, maybe down the line a generalized "special agent" profession could be implemented where you find these creatures and detain them. I know, it's a pipe dream, but that would be pretty darn cool :D

[Miss Harlequin]

You know that never occurred to me before, but it would've been kind of cool in TS3 if with each supernatural creature we got we would've also gotten their nemesis (maybe playable Sims could've even built skills or gotten a coinciding career to become them). Like a slayer or Van Helsing-type for vampires, special agents (think Mulder & Skully ;)) for aliens, werewolf hunter, zombie killer, mummy killer (not sure who would be "traditional" here), etc. It would've made Sims 3 unique from Sims 2, and given added dimension while playing as said creatures.

Who knows, maybe down the line a generalized "special agent" profession could be implemented where you find these creatures and detain them. I know, it's a pipe dream, but that would be pretty darn cool :D

That would be amazing! But honestly I don't have much faith in EA at the moment. Hopefully Generations will be a turning point (:

[ocorreia]

However, this link works: http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep4/systemreq

The name Generations is given in the side bar where the names of the EPs go. Compare it to http://www.thesims3.com/game/ep3/systemreq which shows Late Night.

We can take Pescado's line that any game that hasn't been released yet is "Lies and propaganda", or assume that if the name has appeared on a page on the official Sims 3 site, then it's probably real.

Now it's been changed from "Generations" to "Late Night". Does it mean we're gonna have a revamped version of Late Night, with no glitches and open restaurants for eg.? LOL

Or EA is just pulling our legs with the next EP?

[ticklish]

It is still generations that was confirmed by the esrb rating. They are still busy with medieval probally won't be any news for 2 more weeks when medieval is live then they will release info about generations

[SoCalSimz]

Pretty sure that EA is going to drain me this year more than ever. I think I need to find an A.A. type group for TS. Granted, I'm still addicted to the ideology of TS1 (heavy concentration or in alcohol terms 100 Proof) and the creativity that went with it, but I still need help getting off of this watered down TS3 (20 or less proof) lol.

[Bethyi]

I'd like strollers and prams.

[Nyami]

I really hope this is fake, even though I just know it isn't. This sounds like the worst EP ever. :/

[jonha]

This sounds like the worst EP ever. :/

We know nothing. If they are just including a treehouse and similar stupid items, it will be probably the worst EP ever, although it can't get much worse than WA, but if they provide a sort of service pack which fixes all the annoying bugs and adds more everyday live gameplay and more interactions between age groups, it may be the best EP ever. OK, this is unlikely, and they should have included this stuff already with the basegame or with patches, but what counts is that TS3 is getting better, isn't it?

Anyway, this EP (and the next patches, if they happen) will probably decide, if I stay with Sims or if i move to other games.

[rian90]

I am not sure paying lots of money for a service pack and things that should have been in the base game will make it the best EP ever. It might make it useful..but a very sad EP. EP's are supposed to be expansions, moving forward, expanding the game play, not fixing what is broken. However..I would buy it. ;)

[RoadRageBarbie]

Really? The worst EP ever? The only things we no so far are that it's going to have tree houses, midlife crisis, and it's name. You cannot judge the entire game on that. You don't even know what it's about yet! Be realistic.

[Lily__XD]

I'm confused. I've been following this thread for a long time now and like some others I don't see and expansion. To me it already sounds like it's gonna be fixing bunch of things that should've been there from the start. I know we don't know what's going to be in it but honestly if they're just adding "red hands" and a bunch of other games tht were in TS2 from the start... I don't know how interested I am.

Then again I am a slave to EA - I'm too addicted to The Sims.

[jonha]

EP's are supposed to be expansions, moving forward, expanding the game play, not fixing what is broken.

Adding more interactions between sims and age groups will be extending the gameplay. Sort of.

I think adding a lot of new stuff like pets, horses, weather and so on now without fixing all the bugs first doesn't make any sense.

Why add pets or weather when we are unable to save or load, when sims are unable to learn, when vampires are everywhere, when story progression does weird things, when toddlers have no interactions between each other and so on? The game needs to be first playable.

I don't like to pay for service packs of course, but I don't think EA will publish all this stuff for free. On the other hand, all the game fixes and possibly some of the interactions will be probably included with the patch that usually comes along with the expansion, too.

[smacksim2]

The important part I think is: "We know nothing". Well, almost nothing other than the supposed name.

Arguing against one's own conjectures and getting miffed is akin to having a punch-up in an empty room.

"There's an exoplanet that may harbor life".

"I'm sick of these aliens always coming and stealing my tacos".

WTF? :call:

[Velve]

Adding more interactions between sims and age groups will be extending the gameplay. Sort of.

I think adding a lot of new stuff like pets, horses, weather and so on now without fixing all the bugs first doesn't make any sense.

Why add pets or weather when we are unable to save or load, when sims are unable to learn, when vampires are everywhere, when story progression does weird things, when toddlers have no interactions between each other and so on? The game needs to be first playable.

I don't like to pay for service packs of course, but I don't think EA will publish all this stuff for free. On the other hand, all the game fixes and possibly some of the interactions will be probably included with the patch that usually comes along with the expansion, too.

I think EA gave up on fixing stuff, and expect the modding community will beat them to the punch anyhow.

I'm not sure I could classify the game as playable without modding gods like Twallan and Pescado doing EA's job for them.

I'm most looking forward to a new occult. I'm not much of a normal sim fan as they die too quickly to accomplish the overly large goals I tend to set for single generations.

[Robodl95]

Guys we have a one sentence description. We have zero idea about what the pack includes. Don't you think that you're jumping the gun and writing it off a little too soon?

We got LN with the party/YA lifestyle so I like the balance that this EP seems to focus on homelife and the other ages.

[FridaKahlo]

You know that never occurred to me before, but it would've been kind of cool in TS3 if with each supernatural creature we got we would've also gotten their nemesis (maybe playable Sims could've even built skills or gotten a coinciding career to become them). Like a slayer or Van Helsing-type for vampires, special agents (think Mulder & Skully ;)) for aliens, werewolf hunter, zombie killer, mummy killer (not sure who would be "traditional" here), etc. It would've made Sims 3 unique from Sims 2, and given added dimension while playing as said creatures.

Who knows, maybe down the line a generalized "special agent" profession could be implemented where you find these creatures and detain them. I know, it's a pipe dream, but that would be pretty darn cool :D


While I'm not hopeful when it comes to EA, I actually have seen some hints of something like this already in the game. Just look at Bridgeport. Several of the family bios (the vamp ones) mention "fighting" and "choosing sides", and I've actually had Sims get the wish to fight a vampire! So really I feel like it would be easy to expand on that and make Buffy/Skully type Sims. Plus, even though mummies can be made playable characters, you can still fight and destroy tomb mummies.

On another note, if we get zombies back, I would like to see a Miss Lucille type character return too. She'd be perfect in the swamps of Twinbrook :D

[oh kayla]

I hate how the Sims steals all my money for EPs.. guess I'm going to have to go get it!

[Laisanae]

On another note, if we get zombies back, I would like to see a Miss Lucille type character return too. She'd be perfect in the swamps of Twinbrook :D


Ah zombies. :lovestruc
My two survivor sims wouldn't have to kill tourists/paparazzis, they could have real foes. Lovely.

[ani_]

I'm hoping the supernatural creature in this EP would be aliens, I miss abductions and I miss my noseless children. Anyhow, what would be more suitable for a family EP if not alien rape.

[TheGuySim]

I'm hoping the supernatural creature in this EP would be aliens, I miss abductions and I miss my noseless children. Anyhow, what would be more suitable for a family EP if not alien rape.

I second alien rape.... I mean.... innocent aliens who don't abduct and impregnate our male sims..... :D

[rian90]

I think adding a lot of new stuff like pets, horses, weather and so on now without fixing all the bugs first doesn't make any sense.

On the other hand, all the game fixes and possibly some of the interactions will be probably included with the patch that usually comes along with the expansion, too.

I absolutely agree with both these statements. It makes no sense to add another EP without fixing the bugs and my guess is the fix will be in the patch..which is why I will probably download the patch, wait until they fix what the patch breaks, watch and see what you all say is broken by the new EP, wait until they release the new patch, and THEN buy the new EP. :P

[Bchbch Walk]

All I want is SNOW!

[lewisb40]

I'm hoping the supernatural creature in this EP would be aliens, I miss abductions and I miss my noseless children. Anyhow, what would be more suitable for a family EP if not alien rape.

Haha! Somehow I think I will not look at alien abductions as innocently again.

I miss them too. My blue, green, and other CC colored sims are not doing it for me. :)

[kiwi_tea]

So basically you'll wait until everyone muddles through the Alpha so that you can play the never-to-be-finished Beta release... ...I might join you in that plan. I do often wonder how much time they spend play-testing the games, or if they rely more of focus groups and vaguer forms of feedback...

[bellatrixclovis]

I do often wonder how much time they spend play-testing the games My bet is: not enough. Examples?

1. Ambitions: Had they really played and tested fully their new EP, they would have known that some 'features' were totally stupid/imbalanced. The architect LTW for instance, it's hardly achievable. What's the point? Then, the new professions are very repetitive and too soon boring. Too bad isn't it, for it's one of the key feature of this EP.

2. World Adventure: I can more or less understand the non-replayability of the tombs, and the lack of an adventure creator/editor. Complex features = lot of work = $$$. Yet, the core gameplay of this EP is adventuring, with the top reward being the level 3 visa and the ability to purchase homes in those destinations. One of my biggest complain is that, when one of my sims reaches that point, there is hardly anything left to do in those worlds. So the whole level 3/purchase a home goal is kind of pointless again in the end.

As much as I still love the game (and play it way too much :) ), I can't help feeling that EA has drifted away from the sand box/sand castle game. The Sims games where typically very long lasting games, the player could play and replay and still find new things to do. The EP's of the Sims 3 are a bit more 'fast consumed goods', just entertaining for a while, and then you switch to something else. What else? The new EP/SP, medieval... of course! Money money money!

[ani_]

bellatrixclovis: Good post, but I would have separated it to two different fails. Game design fail and testing fail.

The Game designers are the ones who should have figured out, tombs not resetting or ambition careers being boring and repetitive is not good, and should have designed them better.

The testers, well they probably only test individual features, but don't continuously play the new EP which is why they missed bugs like returning home from abroad and finding yourself married to a woman you didn't know before. If testers would have more to say, the game might be actually much better, because they will notice actual game play things, when testing. I worked in a gaming company for over three years, and if you were not a game-designer, nobody cared if you had ideas to improve the game. The designers word is the law and they always know best even when they don't.

Also, one needs to remember that for every bug the players found in the game, there are probably a hundred more that the testers did catch.

[matrix54]

2. World Adventure: I can more or less understand the non-replayability of the tombs, and the lack of an adventure creator/editor. Complex features = lot of work = $$$. Yet, the core gameplay of this EP is adventuring, with the top reward being the level 3 visa and the ability to purchase homes in those destinations. One of my biggest complain is that, when one of my sims reaches that point, there is hardly anything left to do in those worlds. So the whole level 3/purchase a home goal is kind of pointless again in the end.!

The balance in WA could have come from having actual vacation stuff at these locations. WA came with a TON of things BUT most of it is locked away behind buydebug. 1 example I could mention is the Hot Springs in China. I was a little more than excited about this when I saw the name of lot thinking "we have hot spring objects! cool!" but when I god there, all I saw was 2 pools. That's not what I want to do on vacation. An Actual hot spring object would have been lovely. Not only that, but this EP came with gym equipment, but I saw a significant lack of spa equipment. China has to be most peaceful location in the game. That Massage table would have been PERFECT there. Spa items in general would be nice.

And France, which had the most "vacationesque" atmosphere of the 3, but all you do is shop. There a 6 tombs (I think) and after that, you don't do much else. It's just pretty. Nectar is cool and everything, but it takes WAY too long to make and you make 1 bottle and your vacation is over. The game is pretty much work. There's no where to relax.

and BTW: Why enable stoves to work on a base camp if you can't actively buy one from the menu. I'd like to not make the lot, lot up a neighborhood, shove the stove in my inventory, go on vacation again just for a stove. Loading times are worse than the Sims 2. -_-

[kennyinbmore]

What else? The new EP/SP, medieval... of course! Money money money!

I could be wrong, but I think that game(medieval) is going to fail big time

[NekoCat]

bellatrixclovis: Good post, but I would have separated it to two different fails. Game design fail and testing fail.

The Game designers are the ones who should have figured out, tombs not resetting or ambition careers being boring and repetitive is not good, and should have designed them better.

The testers, well they probably only test individual features, but don't continuously play the new EP which is why they missed bugs like returning home from abroad and finding yourself married to a woman you didn't know before. If testers would have more to say, the game might be actually much better, because they will notice actual game play things, when testing. I worked in a gaming company for over three years, and if you were not a game-designer, nobody cared if you had ideas to improve the game. The designers word is the law and they always know best even when they don't.

Also, one needs to remember that for every bug the players found in the game, there are probably a hundred more that the testers did catch.

Not to mention the fact that testing is always the first group in the IT dept to get cut, and the last to be allowed to hire. I've worked as a tester for years and it's really going downhill. In fact, one project I was working on recently (as the only tester) pulled me off the project because they said their budget couldn't pay for both a programmer and a tester (even though testers make about a 1/4 what programmers do). They have 2 program managers doing an hour of testing a day instead of me doing 8 hours. And that is normal in the industry, from what I've seen and heard. I'd laugh if I wasn't busy hitting my head against the wall at their stupidity.

Frankly, the Sims3 is almost a testers dream. Since we're rated on how many bugs we find... wow... it's like... testing nirvana :lovestruc :p Which is kind of sad because I'm saying this about the release version...

[TUN3R]

WA was the bes... the only good expansion for TS3.

[so_freakin_glam]

All I want is SNOW!
Thats what im saying.

[rian90]

I could be wrong, but I think that game(medieval) is going to fail big time

It won't fail because I see so many people saying...I don't think I will like it but I will buy it anyway. All they need is the box sales. It doesn't matter if you don't like it or if you only play it for a day. If you buy it, you give them the sales, especially during the first week. If only a third of the Sims 3 fans rush out and buy the game it will be a success...plus all those folks who will play medieval no matter what. I do think the review ratings will drop with time. The big game sites will give great reviews or they lose access but the players will trickle in with less than expected ratings..maybe. If the game is one that is short on playability but cool on affects, it might get good ratings and take a while for people to figure out that its not that much fun in the longer term. But then again, most folks do not play their games for years and years, but only until the next big release. My guess is EA wants those folks.

[brillo_pad]

Well wolves come in packs.. that's like a family thing, right?! they might have Werewolves, right!!?!?!?! RIGHT!?!?!?!

:!!: :cry: :!!:

I'm gonna have to wait and wait and wait, I can see it now.

[kennyinbmore]

It won't fail because I see so many people saying...I don't think I will like it but I will buy it anyway. All they need is the box sales. It doesn't matter if you don't like it or if you only play it for a day. If you buy it, you give them the sales, especially during the first week. If only a third of the Sims 3 fans rush out and buy the game it will be a success...plus all those folks who will play medieval no matter what. I do think the review ratings will drop with time. The big game sites will give great reviews or they lose access but the players will trickle in with less than expected ratings..maybe. If the game is one that is short on playability but cool on affects, it might get good ratings and take a while for people to figure out that its not that much fun in the longer term. But then again, most folks do not play their games for years and years, but only until the next big release. My guess is EA wants those folks.

I guess we'll see. The people I've seen in the past that wanted a sims medieval type game are disappointed because there are no horses. Not that I've really seen that many people clamoring for it anyway. I mean there are people on the thread here who are saying they're tired of hearing about it. I just think they misjudged the interest in it. Of course I really don't know what EA's expectation on it is, so my definition of fail may be different than theirs

[smacksim2]

As far as I know Sims3 has no open beta testing, meaning nobody outside whoever they hire internally does any testing. I'm commenting because, having done a share of beta testing for big games I want to mention that anyone involved with testing the game will also have a Non Disclosure Agreement of serious legal weight and will not be able to answer any speculation about what they do or how well they do it, or even if they are beta testers at all.

I've worked with software of similar complexity at the beta level and there were 80+ public beta testers, 3-5 fulltime inhouse QA testers, and between 5 and 20 coders posting every single day. The beta forums alone were about as busy as MTS during a release, every day, for a long time. If anything EA would be even more regimented, albeit with no public testers. Building software like this isn't a couple of dudes in a garage who might forget to test it before selling it, lol. Its serious business.

Point is, I hate seeing testers being slated by fans when I know that if the testers were to read this they would be unable to respond. Like 'Generations', we know nothing about their process. They could have crap testing and that is why the games and patches are buggy, or it could be down to the underlying architecture, or it could be that the testers slayed 90000 bugs when unfortunately there were 90300 bugs that really needed squashing. No way to know.

[rian90]

I guess we'll see. The people I've seen in the past that wanted a sims medieval type game are disappointed because there are no horses. Not that I've really seen that many people clamoring for it anyway. I mean there are people on the thread here who are saying they're tired of hearing about it. I just think they misjudged the interest in it. Of course I really don't know what EA's expectation on it is, so my definition of fail may be different than theirs

I could care less about horses. I want kids that grow up and create new generations. I have hoped for a medieval EP for a long time but this is NOT how I wanted it. Had it actually been a Sims 3 game, keeping alive the sandbox and the continuation of the families, then I would be jumping for joy. As it is, they took a good idea and ruined it and it just makes me sad.

[LollySims]

As it is, they took a good idea and ruined it and it just makes me sad.

That seems to be a trend with EA :|

[game90]

That seems to be a trend with EA :|

Sims is not the only good franchise to be ruined by EA after buying them out.

[ShortyBoo]

I don't know if it's been posted yet, but here's the trailer for Generations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMiR90MX9Q

Also, there's a trailer for Sims 3: Unleashed, but it says it comes out in October: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_-ZYzJ4cBs

[Honeywell]

Very cool, Boo, but color me unimpressed...bags of poo and stink bombs don't really do it for me.

ETA:
I just watched it again to be sure I'm underwhelmed and it still doesn't look like anything special to me. lol I'm guess most people will be happy to have so many of TS2 objects and interactions back but it's not inspiring me to part with any cash. Maybe there's some major gameplay changes they added but just don't photograph well, though?

[ShortyBoo]

Very cool, Boo, but color me unimpressed...bags of poo and stink bombs don't really do it for me.

Yeah, I know. I noticed a few things that look nice, though, like the Slip N Slide and it looked like you can take nicer pics to hang on the walls, assuming that they didn't just stage everything, which wouldn't surprise me if they did. The Unleashed EP looks nice, though. My Sims can own a horse! I can't wait for that. I'm still disappointed that it looks like we won't have weather for at least a year. If EP6 ends up being weather related, then we'd be waiting until Spring of 2012.

[kiwi_tea]

Er. I'm still really confused about this pack following that video, but the content looks quite nice... But... ...how much does it add?

A starter for Matrix's list:

- Body hair!
- Stroller
- Shoe rack
- Different photo frames
- Toy tank
- Fairytale lamp
- Kid's race car painting
- Video camera (new skill?)
- Children's costumes - dinosaur/magical princess
- Non-rabbithole tree house that is actually really cool looking!
- Slip and slide plastic thing!
- Stink bomb in a beaker, could mean a "Chemistry set"?
- Some sort of external hard drive beside the teen's laptop.
- Lava lamp
- Wedding cake
- Wedding arch
- Drama award of some kind

I suspect Unleashed is a spin off, not the 5th EP, but if it is the fifth EP it looks AWESOME. But anyway, what I spotted in there was

- Dogs
- Cats
- Snakes
- (Beautiful) Deer
- Raccoons
- Skunk
- Horses and horse riding
- Plastic flying disc (frisbee!)

Noticed that it takes place in a Sunset Valley where the park has been replaced with a different one. Also, were those listings all pet-specific traits?

[Sim-brother]

I can't imagine liking a generations expansion at this moment, but perhaps as more details are reveiled I'll change my mind.
I do hope they get memories back, as well as a solig inheritance system. And, as the little girl with the wand actually seemed to sparkle, I
hope that they include magic in this pack. A reintroduction of the alien abduction thing would be nice too.

[rian90]

Not very impressive video but I do like some of the things included. It is definitely not original as I remember most of that from Sims 2.

As for Unleashed..it better not be a spin-off!! I would not be surprised again! EA will make the same mistake as with Medieval and leave off pets from the main game, something people want very much. It will make them less likely to buy it, not more. I actually like that trailer more than I thought I would like a pet's pack..it had deer, raccoons and horses! If its a spin-off though, I would never buy it..no reason to do so. I don't want to pay a 'pet' game, I would just like to have horses, raccoons and deer in my main hood. Otherwise, I have no use for it. While I might eventually in a year or so buy Medieval for my kids, I would never buy the pet game. There are lots of animal simulations out there a lot better than this would be.

Edit: Looking at the video again, I don't think its going to be a spin-off. It has the Sims 3 name on it and I noticed Sims Medieval does not. The differences in the parks could be that its is one of the console versions in the video.

[RoseCity]

The Unleashed one looks good if it's all real. Deer, skunks, raccoons, horses - that should make a lot of people happy.
And Generations seems to have a lot of things people wanted like better weddings and more things for kids to do.

[kiwi_tea]

Oh wait... ...on closer inspection I think the treehousemight be a rabbit hole object. The windows are entirely black. I think the kid Sims just play animations out of them. :/

[Mishy]

gimme Unleashed! it looked too good to be true!


"edit" PLEASE, BE EP, NO SPIN-OFF :!: :!: :!:

[ShortyBoo]

Yeah, the treehouse is likely just a rabbithole. It still looks nice, though. I just watched the video again and if you look closely at the pics on the wall in the beginning of the video, there's a pic with two sims playing on a see-saw/teeter-totter whatever you want to call it. I've been wanting more playground items, so that's nice. The castle themed bedroom looks cool, too. I always liked that set in FFS, and although it's not identical, it still looks good.

[Honeywell]

I suspect Unleashed is a spin off, not the 5th EP, but if it is the fifth EP it looks AWESOME. Yeah, definitely a spin off. You can tell just by the language used to describe them and the tags. The description for Unleashed uses "the new game" and one of the tags is "new". Compare that to the Generations pack which has "with Generations" and it's tagged "expansion pack".

[frankie]

I enjoyed both videos. But "Unleashed" looks amazing. I am stunned to see horses and deer! It looks like EA is going all out on this EP. It seems like Sims 3 is finally heading back to the game that it was supposed to be. We shall see more in the coming weeks.

EDIT: I could have sworn I saw the PC/Mac logo for the pets one. I think it is for PC/Mac but that EA only showed the console version.

[ShortyBoo]

Yeah, definitely a spin off. You can tell just by the language used to describe them and the tags. The description for Unleashed uses "the new game" and one of the tags is "new". Compare that to the Generations pack which has "with Generations" and it's tagged "expansion pack".

No, I think the reason for the wording is because it will also be released on the consoles, which will be a new game and not an expansion pack. So if they mentioned "expansion pack" it would be confusing because of the console versions. I'm fairly certain the version for PC and Mac will be an expansion pack.

[Honeywell]

No, I think the reason for the wording is because it will also be released on the consoles, which will be a new game and not an expansion pack. So if they mentioned "expansion pack" it would be confusing because of the console versions. I'm fairly certain the version for PC and Mac will be an expansion pack.Nope. When has EA ever announced two expansion packs at once? Sorry, Boo. :(

[frankie]

Yes, I just replayed the pets trailer and it does show the PC/Mac logo. This is just the console trailer. I can't wait! Even fish will have traits! :)

[kiwi_tea]

I don't know. I think both positions have merit. It could be that it's a spin-off on consoles with a PC version, which I think is most likely. OR it could be that it's EP5 AND a bunch of console spin-offs, but I doubt that.

Although I live in hope.

[PhenethyaSim]

Alright Generations looks more promising than it origionaly sounded.

And If unleashed isn't an expansion I won't buy it. I want pets/animals in my current game for my current sims! it would really upset me to see them put work into lovely animals and then not allow us to have them in our main game.

[Sprue]

I wonder if the will include a different life state in generations like aliens or something like this. They included one in every expansion pack so far.

[ShortyBoo]

Nope. When has EA ever announced two expansion packs at once? Sorry, Boo. :(

It doesn't mean they can't. I think because it will also be for consoles, that's why they're announcing it so far ahead of time. I mean, console games are typically announced pretty far ahead of the release date, where Sims EPs aren't normally. I'm also thinking that because of Medieval, they haven't taken the time to promote Generations as far ahead of the release as usual. For all we know, Generations may be pretty much done, which would mean they're likely already working on EP5. I just think Medieval kind of screwed up the schedule as far as how the EPs are promoted and everything.

EDIT:Now that I'm thinking about it, hasn't EA released a console version and an EP around the same theme at the same time before? Sims 2: Pets comes to mind. If I remember correctly, wasn't the EP and console versions of Pets announced and released about the same time? If so, it could definitely happen.

[frankie]

It doesn't mean they can't. I think because it will also be for consoles, that's why they're announcing it so far ahead of time. I mean, console games are typically announced pretty far ahead of the release date, where Sims EPs aren't normally. I'm also thinking that because of Medieval, they haven't taken the time to promote Generations as far ahead of the release as usual. For all we know, Generations may be pretty much done, which would mean they're likely already working on EP5. I just think Medieval kind of screwed up the schedule as far as how the EPs are promoted and everything.

I agree. They needed enough promotion for TSM. The good thing about promoting Generations is that because it's so close to being released, we will start seeing a plethora of screen shots and news.

[Honeywell]

It doesn't mean they can't. I think because it will also be for consoles, that's why they're announcing it so far ahead of time. I mean, console games are typically announced pretty far ahead of the release date, where Sims EPs aren't normally. I'm also thinking that because of Medieval, they haven't taken the time to promote Generations as far ahead of the release as usual. For all we know, Generations may be pretty much done, which would mean they're likely already working on EP5. I just think Medieval kind of screwed up the schedule as far as how the EPs are promoted and everything.I hear what you're saying but it sounds like wishful thinking when you compare to the things that we actually know:

-The description states it's a new game, not an expansion pack.
-They're never announced two expansion packs at once.
-Compare the Art/Logos for the different games. There's no expansion pack label on the Unleashed game.

[mickeymouse254]

At the bottom it says that it is for Mac and PC too, they did they same thing with Pets, release the expansion along with the console versions

[rian90]

Sims Medieval doesn't have the Sims 3 logo on it and if that is the trend, then I imagine they will not use the Sims 3 logo unless they are making an EP or console game. I think the person above is correct in that they are showing the console version in the video (which makes me wonder if the pc version will have horses). If they put EP on the video and Sims 3 Unleashed will be offered in Console too..then its NOT an EP for those games. So they just left it off and used the video for all versions. Its not due out until October!! My guess is we will see separate videos for console and EP in the future. I just hope they don't leave out some of the things they have in this video. Horses are in one of the console games already but not in the PC version so makes me wonder...

[ShortyBoo]

I hear what you're saying but it sounds like wishful thinking when you compare to the things that we actually know:

-The description states it's a new game, not an expansion pack.
-They're never announced two expansion packs at once.
-Compare the Art/Logos for the different games. There's no expansion pack label on the Unleashed game.

The description about it being a new game is referring to the console version. The logo at the end of the Unleashed trailer is the one for the console version, so of course it wouldn't say "expansion pack".

[Honeywell]

Sims Medieval doesn't have the Sims 3 logo on it <snip>That's true. And they've always had the Pets expansion pack and a spin off both for S1 and S2 so it makes sense that they will again for S3. But like you said, I don't think that trailer is it.

[tizerist]

Unleashed..it better not be a spin-off!! I would not be surprised again! I would just like to have horses, raccoons and deer in my main hood. Otherwise, I have no use for it.

This is the scary thing. We want things like food trucks, nectarys and stuff in OUR OWN HOODS. Yet we were denied them, even though they were fully coded in...

[rian90]

This is the scary thing. We want things like food trucks, nectarys and stuff in OUR OWN HOODS. Yet we were denied them, even though they were fully coded in...

I have a nectary in my hood! Maybe its a mod..hmm...can't recall. At least they were fully coded in so we can use mods to get them out. EA foiled again!

[Lonelywillow]

I really hope that both games will be an EP. Unleashed seems to fullfill the wishes of so many fans, EA would enrage a lot of people with a new game like medieval.
The announcement of two Eps reminds me of the nice little adds in EP packs that showed the following expansion.
Somehow the whole confusion only started because they seem to be doing it half a year befor release, but I think that's quite normal for a console game.
Who knows, maybe the trailer for the PC version will be released much later.
Which is why we really should be a bit careful with our praise, the PC version could very well be differnt from the console one, the Sims 2 console and pc EPs always were.

[Astraea Nevermore]

Er. I'm still really confused about this pack following that video, but the content looks quite nice... But... ...how much does it add?

A starter for Matrix's list:

- Body hair!
- Stroller
- Shoe rack
- Different photo frames
- Toy tank
- Fairytale lamp
- Kid's race car painting
- Video camera (new skill?)
- Children's costumes - dinosaur/magical princess
- Non-rabbithole tree house that is actually really cool looking!
- Slip and slide plastic thing!
- Stink bomb in a beaker, could mean a "Chemistry set"?
- Some sort of external hard drive beside the teen's laptop.
- Lava lamp
- Wedding cake
- Wedding arch
- Drama award of some kind

Also, I've seen a cane for elders and... magic? :blink: Dunno, the little girl with the princess costume had some sparkles coming out of her sceptre, might just have been a special effect, though.
There's also another kid in costume behind the princess and the dinosaur, but I can't really tell what he's supposed to be :rofl:

[frankie]

I, too, hope that we get all or most of the features in the trailer. Country life is a popular style amongst fans, so horses are a nice addition.

[tizerist]

I have a nectary in my hood! Maybe its a mod..hmm...can't recall.

Yes you either modded (tsk tsk) or cheated (mwahahahahaa) to do that. Naughty rian! :)

[Lonelywillow]

What I love about the trailer (and hopefully everything in it will be in the game too) is that Sims finally get to misbehave.
I am so tired of my lovely perfect Sims with their white picket fences.
So yes, the pranks will probably get old soon, and yes you can't throw a party everyday, but it is way better than just staying out after curfew and stealing your neighbors trash.
And are they finally allowed to drink alcohol?
These features alone would give me a reason to buy the game.

[frankie]

I know, I saw that all the Sim's friends were drunk and passed out on the floor of his bachelor pad. That was amusing. I am sure that only young adults and older can drink if that is the case.

[Sprue]

don't rush with the conclusions. Ea has the habbit of trying to trick us in trailers with stuff that's already in the game. I doubt you can get drunk or pass out from drinking. Most probably that's just an interaction like "spill with champagne" and that's it ! They are making nice trailers everytime but the actuall EP has alot less features.

[kennyinbmore]

gimme Unleashed! it looked too good to be true!


"edit" PLEASE, BE EP, NO SPIN-OFF :!: :!: :!:

I soooooo want that to be real

[crocobaura]

don't rush with the conclusions. Ea has the habbit of trying to trick us in trailers with stuff that's already in the game. I doubt you can drunk or pass out from drinking. They are making nice trailers everytime but the actuall EP has much more features.


I thought they looked like when they pass out from lack of sleep. However, at 00:53 there is shown a police officer spraying champagne. So far, I love this EP.

[Sprue]

I thought they looked like when they pass out from lack of sleep. However, at 00:53 there is shown a police officer spraying champagne. So far, I love this EP.

Yeah but that will be just an interaction..a prank similar to pillow fights in Sims 2 so no alcohol in my opinion. Just look how they're trying to trick us with the police girl trying to act as a stripper for bachelor party. Actually there's no alcohol, no stripper and rest of the stuff. Everytime I put so much hopes in these expansion packs after seeing the trailers and every time I become dissapointed by the final product .

[frankie]

And with the police dancing at the party, I wonder if we can get that cake with the dancer inside of it from The Sims House Party. I miss that.

[Sprue]

me too . I miss that alot but I'm sure we won't get it. The stripper dressed as police and dancing is actually a normal sim dressed as police.

[Inge Jones]

But the unleashed trailer has so many of the same objects and rabbitholes in it as the main Sims 3 game. Surely if it was a completely seperate game it would look more different?

[Lily__XD]

It could be that it's a spin-off on consoles with a PC version, which I think is most likely. OR it could be that it's EP5 AND a bunch of console spin-offs, but I doubt that.

Although I live in hope.

Hey why not? They did this with pets right? I remember having "The Sims 2 Pets" for my nintendo DS and it was all about being a vet or something.

I'm really hoping they do this as EP5, unlikely as it might seem, because to be honest I'm not even interested in having pets if I can't have them with my sims, in my sims 3 game... same as medieval really.

[smacksim2]

Kind of exciting, isn't it?

[lewisb40]

Okay, I have to break my rule (not cursing on forums), but Damn It, I missed the video. They are both taken down! Why did I have to leave the house this morning!

Not fair! :( :wtf: :blink: :faceslap:

[matrix54]

Okay, I have to break my rule (not cursing on forums), but Damn It, I missed the video. They are both taken down! Why did I have to leave the house this morning!

Not fair! :( :wtf: :blink: :faceslap:

you can look at my thread for the stuff you missed. :)

[lewisb40]

On my way there, Matrix. Just seen the Generations video and I really want it. The little information the video gives have me panting!!

[kiatyn]

I got giddy when I saw the bag of flaming poo. Hah! I missed that. :):)

[ShortyBoo]

I wonder why the videos were removed. Well, they've been reuploaded by other people on YouTube, so if you haven't seen them, just search and you should find them. I saved both videos just in case they get removed again. That way I can watch them all I want.

[TUN3R]

Uncensored poo? People puking their guts out Postal 2 style? New supercar?

Maybe it won't totally suck...

[kattenijin]

I always take these preview videos with a big grain of salt; actually, an entire salt-lick almost. Remember how all those awsome interactions from the original Sims 2 video made it into the game and were so cool? No? You don't remember the fire-breathing baby, swinging on the spinning ceiling fan, and your girlfriend/wife ripping of her top for "wohoo" at every chance? Neither do I, mostly because the caek is a lie!!!

[kiwi_tea]

The car is old. It was a bonus with the collector's edition I think. At any rate, I already have it in my game.

[rian90]

Yes you either modded (tsk tsk) or cheated (mwahahahahaa) to do that. Naughty rian! :)

Take that, EA! You think you can keep the nectary from me? ;)

Probably Twallan's mod actually although I am not above cheating!

[matrix54]

The car is old. It was a bonus with the collector's edition I think. At any rate, I already have it in my game.

check my thread. :rofl:

[TUN3R]

The car is old. It was a bonus with the collector's edition I think. At any rate, I already have it in my game.

No that's not the one.

[Laisanae]

A horse. There was a horse in that video. A real horse. Oh my god.
And the Generations... is this really happening? :D


EDIT: the only thing that bothers me, that I see no sign of the weather changing. :/

[heartbreak]

After seeing the trailer, I'm still unsure about it. There are so many things that are "needed" in the game (and that makes me interested) but it angers me that they weren't there from the start.

Will I be getting it? Totally but unlike the other expansions, I think I'll have a little reservation at the checkout.

Can't wait for the list of new features to see it's full offerings. :)

ETA: Just saw the list (http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=436414). Makes me feel a lot better seeing it all break down.

[himawara106]

Regarding to this German site: http://www.simtimes.de/ Generations and Unleashed are both EPs for the PC version of sims 3 (you can watch these two videos there, they are both functioning)

[Ive]

Link to video? I seem to be blind.

[Rileyjcquinn]

Judhudson from SimPrograms just uploaded 2 game trailers for the two new games, Generations and Unleased. They are below

Generations: Trailer (YouTube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_jRs9FBudY&feature=channel_video_title)

Unleashed : Trailer (YouTube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyH8fnPh9a8&feature=youtu.be)

[Miko09]

The folks at EA are very sneaky. I didnt see or hear any warnings that the trailer for Generations(and Unleashed! two EPs announced on the same day?!) was coming out today. Somebody at the company must have been listening when fans complained about being in the dark and not being informed.

The one thing that really popped out at me was the whole Prom thing. Even though it looked completely structured and filled to the brim with flashy camera tricks, I hope that was a peek at maybe social events being able to take place at the school. I also noticed that the kid who set off the stink bomb was in a library of sorts. Would be cool if the opened non-rabbithole school idea is in this EP.

[gobot101]

I doubt that the rabbitholes will be opened, at least I doubt the school will be. If it was, I really think EA would have shown the actual prom rather than just pictures being taken outside. As for the library, that's probably the same as the picture in Sims 2 with Strangetown that took place in a "school hallway," the lockers were refrigerators, or, it could have been just a public library, like what we already have.

[fway]

The Generations EP looks promising, and while I am unsure of how the quality was for the unleashed trailer, here is a reposted one I found on youtube.

EDIT:

Okay, the HQ videos have been saved to my hard drive. Here is the pets trailer via TinyPic.

http://tinypic.com/r/veyiw/7 - Generations
http://tinypic.com/r/14mc9b4/7 - Unleashed

EA seems to go after Youtubers, so this seems like a safe bet.

[CinderEmma]

I've seen the Unleashed one in two different places but not the Generations one :( *sulks*
I definitely think that the Unleashed video is a console version, the graphics look more console-que

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFOV4soM34
found a generation one for anybody who hasn't seen it! Hopefully it stays up for a while :)

[DigitalSympathies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGiPU37187s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6c6LFipmKs

THESE ARE NOT FAKE, PEOPLE.

Here's a list of what I found.

Generations: Slip N' Slide, Prom, Home Videos, New Picture Styles, Strollers, Home Videos, Child-Themed Items, Family Fun Conversions/Improvements, HOME VIDEOS, Tree houses, Bag of Poo!, Stinkbombs, what looks to be basic school uniforms, Egging houses, Cop-Busted HUGE MASSIVE PARTIES, Celebrations conversions, Bachelor(ette) parties, Spiral Staircases, Lava Lamps, actual decent clothes/hair, Wine popping, electricity buzzer prank, hangovers (they throw up in the bathroom instead of in the street!), trash is left over from parties, RETURN OF THE WEDDING ARCH, Rice Throwing at weddings, Fridge magnets, a conversion of OFB items and outfits, and what looks to be University-style stuff.

Unleashed: Pets have traits. Street animals. A lot of trash. Frisbee's. Lizards and other small rodents. DEER AND HORSES!!! Return of the skunk. Dog toys.

[Captain THPS4]

As a YouTuber, I'd be ecstatic if that "You: View" turns out to be real feature! If not, I at least hope that video camera is usable and has a videography skill with the ability to play back videos on the computer. Looks like we can at least use it since there's a kid playing around with a cheaper looking camcorder near the end.

Wow! Both the Generations and Unleashed trailers were amazing to wake up to. The Generations one rivals the epicness of the Ambitions tralier. So we're getting spiral stairs back! YES! I'm glad we didn't have to wait too long this time compared to TS2. The return of the bag of poo is pretty amusing and I never thought we would get a slip n' slide. Not a hint of questing or objective-based gameplay anywhere, unless you count living life to the fullest. Heh. :P

My only concern is that weather is MIA in both trailers. That's not good, but right now I'm just happy we're getting more sandbox gameplay and pets back. I think these two EPs alone may improve the game and overall liveliness of the neighborhood much more drastically than any of the previous 3 have.

[insane_in_charlie_shirt]

If I'm being honest the Generations video really just showed me how boring it sounded in a new light. Hopefully as more stuff is leaked I'll have more cause to want the dang thing, but for now this looks like it may be the first time I'm going to give and EP a miss :S
But then again it may be because in real life I'm not a child friendly person, and I dispise them in the game, not jsut ebcause they're boring they're just annoying to me. Who knows, maybe if I do end up getting this EP it will make them more entertaining.

I dunno, I just don't find it all that impressive... I may go watch the video a few more times and try to find something to get excited about (Though then knowing EA it will be one of the features which never makes it :P )

edit: If adults can pull pranks as well this could be fun. And if they can have wild parties with people dressed as police and such without getting married.

[Ive]

Unleashed looks like console-y to me to. But one can only hope :) I'd be pretty pissed if they decided to make a pets game but not an expansion for the real game :(

[TheGuySim]

Unleashed looks like console-y to me to. But one can only hope :) I'd be pretty pissed if they decided to make a pets game but not an expansion for the real game :(

I'd say the one they posted is the console version, but it does say PC/Mac at the end of the video aswell, so I'm pretty sure they'll post a PC trailer of it when they have more of it done. The did the same with Sims 2 Pets, which was released for console and PC :)

Anyway, Sims 3 Generations looks like its gonna be my favourite EP. Seeing Strollers and the children doing little role-playing games alone got me all exicted! Oh and parties are ACTUALLY wild parties, and weddings are ACTUALLY proper weddings, with wedding cake!

[acid_fairy]

I'm still confused as to what is the over-arching theme is in Generations. To me it just looks like a bunch of new objects and interactions for each generation to do but nothing significant, like uni or a new age group.

[Drakron]

I'm still confused as to what is the over-arching theme is in Generations.

Why are you confused? Do you think a EP could be made around one age group?

My real complain is this should have been in TS3 base game to start with or been EP1, not at this point ... it just shows how TS3 development was going into the wrong direction.

[acid_fairy]

Why are you confused? Do you think a EP could be made around one age group?


Well because WA had travelling, Ambitions had professions, LN had bars and celebs, and Unleashed will have pets. Generations seems full of things that should have been in the base game or could be added with other EPs with a theme. To me this seems like a glamorised stuff pack and I think I was expecting more. I mean even Free Time's hook was hobbies, but this doesn't even seem to add that.
It seems almost like a return to Livin' Large; lots of nice features, but nothing that really brings them all together.

Something people were asking for is more activities for families as a whole to do together, but aside from the pushchair I don't see much evidence of that; the age groups still seem extremely segregated.

And I don't know about anyone else, but the pranks in Uni really got on my nerves, so I am in no way psyched about their reappearance.

[Drakron]

In the end you have plenty of content, even if its not around a specific "theme" and that is fine with me, I rather have things that are actual in use that things like WA that ended up being largely useless by design.

In fact I say this is what they should be doing instead of being so focused on having a "theme" they ended up creating something that is used once or twice.

[J. M. Pescado]

It seems almost like a return to Livin' Large; lots of nice features, but nothing that really brings them all together.I was about to comment on that. But really, is that really so bad?

[acid_fairy]

I was about to comment on that. But really, is that really so bad?

Not necessarily, but it's a slight departure from what we've come to expect from EA.

I am going to hold out on judging it properly though until I get an actual chance to play it.

[Drakron]

... departure from what we've come to expect from EA.

You mean sneaking Securom in, banning users from access to DLC that paid, etc ...

[Robodl95]

In a way I think that having no overall theme (besides family/lifespan oriented stuff) is good. In WA if you don't travel the EP is pretty much worthless, Ambitions doesn't add too much besides jobs, LN doesn't do much except promote clubbing. This EP seems like it will affect every sim because of wedding additions, awards, prom, etc.

[acid_fairy]

You mean sneaking Securom in, banning users from access to DLC that paid, etc ...

Lol oh come on you know what I meant, no need to be dramatic.

[Ive]

I'd say the one they posted is the console version, but it does say PC/Mac at the end of the video aswell, so I'm pretty sure they'll post a PC trailer of it when they have more of it done. The did the same with Sims 2 Pets, which was released for console and PC :)

Oh yea. Just TS2 was first prio and then console came after.

Hope you're right though :)

[DigitalSympathies]

I'm impressed that there's no "overall theme". If you want themes and structure, go play RPG's. The Sims is not an RPG, it is a sandbox. This does add a lot of features into the game that have got me BEGGING for my optical drive to be installed and a new TS3 disc because my old optical drive shredded it and killed itself. This is MY type of expansion - new features (I mean, teeter-totters? Videos? Massive parties? Strollers? NEW FEATURES PEOPLE.) - instead of a "direction". I don't want a damn direction, pardon my Swahili, and I don't want a freaking RPG. If I wanted one I'd boot up WoW.

[mickeymouse254]

I *kinda* like that theres no real theme. So far when sims 3 tries to do a theme, it ends up being to quest-y. Sims 2 and sims 1 were better when it came to themes. The main focus I think of this ep is growing up and family time. I really hope we get holidays of some sort, because that would be amazing! All kinds of holidays, seeing santa claus on Christmas, trick or treating on Halloween, and more! Although it may make more sense to include that in a seasons EP

[aGOLDENbox]

So far this expansion pack is reminding me of Sims 2: Living Large where it's just new objects and interactions to improve what we can do with our sims.

[Asuka123]

And I don't know about anyone else, but the pranks in Uni really got on my nerves, so I am in no way psyched about their reappearance.
Oh, yes. I hated those in Uni and probably won't ever use them in TS3 either. I'm really disappointed with them eating up half of the trailer.

Other than that, I don't mind that this EP doesn't seem to have an actual theme (well, from what we've been given to see so far, at least), although from the trailer alone nothing seems thouroughly exciting in my opinion.

[kiwi_tea]

Oh and parties are ACTUALLY wild parties, and weddings are ACTUALLY proper weddings, with wedding cake!

Just like the dance parties in the LN trailers were ACTUALLY wild parties.

Yeah. Grain of salt the size of the African continent, please.

[Fyrefly555]

I'm impressed that there's no "overall theme". If you want themes and structure, go play RPG's. The Sims is not an RPG, it is a sandbox. This does add a lot of features into the game that have got me BEGGING for my optical drive to be installed and a new TS3 disc because my old optical drive shredded it and killed itself. This is MY type of expansion - new features (I mean, teeter-totters? Videos? Massive parties? Strollers? NEW FEATURES PEOPLE.) - instead of a "direction". I don't want a damn direction, pardon my Swahili, and I don't want a freaking RPG. If I wanted one I'd boot up WoW.

Okay, just try to relax and breath deeply! ^^ I totally agree with you on the fact that The Sims 3 shouldn't be so RPG oriented. But still, a theme is important.
Example "Seasons" could have been a great theme for the "Generations" EP. I mean, family activities and free times are mostly influenced by the weather in real life.

This "Generations" trailer make me feel like I'm watching a trailer for an EP's EP...
I don't know if I'm very clear here. Late Night was all about "Yeepee! Let's go have parties anywhere (but not anytime...U_U)...
And here, what do I see? Well, a bunch of freaking teenagers making parties when dady and mommy are somewhere else probably also partying...

It's a feature from Late Night for me, with the townies organising (lame) parties in their appartment the size of a shoe box packed in too huge buildings with buggy elevator...

That's why I'm still praying for the trailer about "Generations" we saw so far being a pre-pre-pre (add as many "pre" as you think are necessary)-release video that EA didn't wanted to make public...

Oops, craziness editing tonight for me.

I wanted to add that, something family oriented, should, at least, propose some family activities. Here, I just saw children playing together, then teenagers partying with other teens, adults with adults etc... What if Mommy dear and Daddy dear just want to play pictionnary with their 2 kids and relaxing at home with their little family?
It seems to be impossible, because the youngests seem to be more interested by poo harvesting to fill some crappy paper bags to make fun of their neighbour...

So, as fun as poo harvesting could be, I'm not sure it will help me staying on my game and making my Sims busy until October and its pets. ^^

[Kestie Freehawk]

I have looked at both Videos, the Pets one I heard a buzz about, that it was an update for the console and the only one they would get, but it would work for PC too if you got that version. I dont think that Ambitions, Late Night or World Travel work with the console, but that the pets one will.

I love the teaser for Generations because it looks Simishly fun. Didnt they have some Wild Animal expansion for Sims 2? I like the idea of CAW animal spawns.

[socherish]

Is the waterslide in the trailer legit? (as in, going to be in the ep?) Because if it is, I'll buy it just for that. :o

[LollySims]

I really hope we get holidays of some sort, because that would be amazing! All kinds of holidays, seeing santa claus on Christmas, trick or treating on Halloween, and more! Although it may make more sense to include that in a seasons EP

I SO agree! I've been wanting holidays forever :( In fact as soon as I saw the kiddies in costume and the teens egging houses, I thought of Halloween. Adding holidays would be a great way to tie everything together. I'm wondering if EAxis shies away from them for religious reasons though. But I was thinking, why not make up holidays inspired by real ones, similar to the game Animal Crossing? I think that'd be less likely to offend.

As I rewatch the trailer for the umpteenth time, I can't help but get the feeling that there's a lot of focus on parties, I just can't tell how they differ from what we have now. Obviously weddings look much better (maybe we'll get proper honeymoon planning now), proms look ok but really hoping it's not a rabbit hole, bachelor parties (with strippers?! or is that reeeally staged?), teen parties (hoping there's more to this besides the normal house party), and well, they showed a kid having a birthday party...maybe we'll get more options there too? Also it seems like slumber parties would fit really well too, since there's a treehouse they could "camp" in. Anniversary Parties would be cute too!
The first time I watched the trailer, I thought it reminded me a bit of House Party, moreso than Livin' Large.

I really hope we get real restaurants this time around and dating. They both seem like good things to add to Generations. I can't wait to learn more about this EP!

[Ive]

I SO agree! I've been wanting holidays forever :( In fact as soon as I saw the kiddies in costume and the teens egging houses, I thought of Halloween. Adding holidays would be a great way to tie everything together. I'm wondering if EAxis shies away from them for religious reasons though. But I was thinking, why not make up holidays inspired by real ones, similar to the game Animal Crossing? I think that'd be less likely to offend.

I would think the problem is in how do you make a year? Without seasons at least. And even with seasons it doesn't mean that spring is easter for the whole duration and all of winter is Christmas. So I think it's more of that than religious reasons since they have made Christmas and other religious items before. And how do they make it so people can choose to ignore it if they want.

One way to make holidays is to give people the items and then the players make it up whenever it pleases them.

It's not impossible but it's tricky to get it right and balanced. The last thing I would want to see is holidays overload with a constant spam of people putting presents infront of my sims door. Alternatively they could create some sort of event in order like the bookstore "sale for 3 days" thing only it's 10 days of Christmas instead. But I still think that it would go best with a seasons expansion so that the event could be tied to the 4 seasons :)

[Shivar]

Animal Crossing uses a direct 1:1 time scale to the real world, and it STILL overloads you with holidays. The Sims uses a severely out of whack time scale where you can watch a sim's full life pass you by in just a day or two. There's no real way to implement time-sensitive holidays, unless they were based on your computer clock, in which case people would complain that barely any of their sims got to experience them- and they'd also be so rare they'd be pointless.

Which is probably the whole reason the games just don't have holidays- except christmas item activated events. Maybe once seasons come along they could implement a one-per-season kind of thing. So once during winter (once a "year", for those who have more than one winter per year), if you have a tree set up, Santa will break into your house and leave some presents, and once during fall sim kids will come over for candy and your kids can go door to door and try to get some, and once during summer fireworks will go off around town and in the sky and you can throw a special barbecue that gets bonus points and awesome moodlets just for being during the fireworks, and once during spring Llama Eggs show up all over the game world (wherever anythign else spawns? Activated by spawners?) and you collect as many as you can to win prizes.

[Miss Harlequin]

Another problem with holidays is that most of them have a religious (or more specifically, Christian) basis x:

[Robodl95]

^ Or more because holidays vary so much around the world, it's to my understanding that most European countries (let alone Africa, Asia) don't celebrate Halloween very much? Valentines Day could possibly work...

[LollySims]

One way to make holidays is to give people the items and then the players make it up whenever it pleases them.

This is more what I had in mind, like in the Happy Holidays pack for Sims 2. Certain items would be used to trigger a visit from Santa. I'd even settle for downloading from the store, if the items actually triggered an event. You did have a point about seasons though. Even if holidays were optional/player activated, it'd still be nice to do them in their appropriate seasons :)

[Ive]

This is more what I had in mind, like in the Happy Holidays pack for Sims 2. Certain items would be used to trigger a visit from Santa. I'd even settle for downloading from the store, if the items actually triggered an event. You did have a point about seasons though. Even if holidays were optional/player activated, it'd still be nice to do them in their appropriate seasons :)

Oooh, yea. Items that trigger the event would be a great idea.

[mickeymouse254]

I was thinking that with the chemistry/stink bomb thing, the new creature might be a frankestein's monster, when a sim can make another sim into a frankenstein's monster

[kiwi_tea]

That'd be nice, mickeymouse254, but it'd be a bit weird because the coding in the game currently calls Simbots "frankenstein".

[mickeymouse254]

Really? Thats weird, maybe just some sort of mutant, green chemistry monster, frankenstein-like monster.

[LollySims]

That'd be nice, mickeymouse254, but it'd be a bit weird because the coding in the game currently calls Simbots "frankenstein".

I always thought that was dumb on their part. Frankenstein's monster wasn't a robot in any way. If anything, since he was a reanimated corpse he'd be closer to a zombie :P

Technically, "Frankenstein" wasn't the name of the monster himself either though, so they could in theory use the word "monster" or "creature", even if it is a bit vague.

I really like the idea of having a whole new supernatural creature myself :) And hey "Frankenstein" and his bride fits into the whole family theme, right? :lol:

[Sprue]

I too want a supernatural creature badly but till now they showed it in every trailer . In world adventures they showed the mummy, in ambitions the simbot and in late night the vamp, in this one they didn't :/ .

[lewisb40]

Lets hope the video is not the final cut and someone just wanted to leak a version of a promo so the community can hush about not knowing anything for Generations. I really don't think this leak shows everything.

I am disappointed that EA is keeping this information close to the vest. Usually they release more information in this time frame, before the EP is due out.

[Zorgot]

I don't know, I hate it and I love it. I love the whole prom and bachelor party and middle-life crisis and the whole let's egg that house thing but it seems like all of these features are actually leftover from previous eps and possible future ones. All of this could have been added to let's say Ambitions. But yeah, I'm getting it the moment it comes out and I'll play the hell out of it, but not my first choice for the fourth ep.

[pirate_wolf_12]

I don't know, I hate it and I love it. I love the whole prom and bachelor party and middle-life crisis and the whole let's egg that house thing but it seems like all of these features are actually leftover from previous eps and possible future ones.

That's the best way I'd use to describe it. It's this Sim generation's version of Free Time. Not a significant gameplay addition or change, but more minor stuff that could have all been included in other expansion packs (and some that should have been included in the base game). Kind of like a collection of items sim players have been asking for (But still no bunk beds! So bad!) and this is their way of shutting us up.

[sabrieljo]

To be honest listening to the talk before the video I as a bit unsure of whether it would be any good, but after seeing the video I'll definitely buy it because of the added interactions between the kids and adults. I think that any expansion pack adds to the game play stops it becoming stale, plus I'm also looking forward to spiral stairs which I've seen mentioned somewhere and the water slide, still not bothered by the weather .

[Succy]

Concerning the expansion's supernatural life form: Did anyone else see the little girl dressed up as a princess/witch, waving around what looked like a scepter/wand, with sparkles coming out of it?

Kinda fancy if it's just a children's toy (and not an actual child witch performing a spell).

[christmas fear]

i watched the video and the expansion really doesn't look too bad. i see a lot of pranks and there's probably more to do for teenagers (such as what looked like a prom or a school formal) and there is wedding arches. it is really great that they're focusing on putting in more activities for all ages so every age that your sim goes through is fun to play out. i agree that it doesn't look like there's an overall theme. at first i was thinking they were going to add pets into it or something as a main feature. for this expansion i'd also be looking forward to another town to play in possibly, that would have more sims of a different age. it'd be more like a family neighborhood or something.
the fact that teenagers can actually party now and get busted by the cops looks like something that would be fun. i hope there's a lot more new interactions in the expansion additionally. the new clothes don't look too bad either. :) oh, and what looks like a stroller can be spotted at about :10 in the video.

Concerning the expansion's supernatural life form: Did anyone else see the little girl dressed up as a princess/witch, waving around what looked like a scepter/wand, with sparkles coming out of it?

Kinda fancy if it's just a children's toy (and not an actual child witch performing a spell).

haha this is making me want to see magic in the expansion too. the first thing i thought of was them taking a 'family fun stuff' approach and it looked like they just put in more clothes for kids to play dress up or something in because the girls outfit looked like a princess costume but anything is possible.

[Tzigone]

This is more what I had in mind, like in the Happy Holidays pack for Sims 2. Certain items would be used to trigger a visit from Santa. I'd even settle for downloading from the store, if the items actually triggered an event. You did have a point about seasons though. Even if holidays were optional/player activated, it'd still be nice to do them in their appropriate seasons :)

While seasons would be nice, I don't support tying a Holiday to a specific season. I celebrate Christmas in winter time. Australians celebrate it in summer. And, of course, certain holidays are only celebrated in certain countries/cultures. I don't mind holidays at all, but I'm unlikely to ever use them.

[kiwi_tea]

Simple. Put a menu on the Edit Town UI allowing players to define their holidays: What they are, how frequently they happen. Have a small number of stock NPC scenarios. Allow players to name the holidays, and set a "[Holiday Name] Costume" that people in town might wear that day. Make Grumpy Sims particularly grumpy those days.

[treeag]

So it's mostly just new objects with new interactions? Maybe it should be called "Leftover Bits & Pieces" :P

So far it looks more like a stuff pack to me, or a semi-EP like Mansion and Garden.

[lisfyre]

I found this sims 3 cutscene one youtube, never had any in game though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy6D6AhXSl8

Bleh.. I've seen that in my game. First time I put in a hot tub it showed that cutscene. Never seen it since though. I guess only works if you do the thing the very first time.

On another note.... I understood that Generations will be for the PC/Mac but Unleashed is supposed to be for the consoles. Did I get that wrong?

I've been wanting seasons from day 1 and I honestly hope they include it in this one or bring it out sometime soon. As for pets, I hope it's a separate EP because I'm not interested (never got it in Sims 2)... UNLESS there are farm animals that we can use for our farmers. Cows for milk, cheese and steaks, chickens for eggs and meat, etc. I mean HELLO - steaks, turkeys, hotdogs don't grow on trees/plants unless you happen to be vegetarian and make it out of tofu or something. That's the one thing that's always bugged me about these games. "Growing" steaks/turkey/hotdogs/cheese/eggs from plants. That's just so wrong.

We also need University and private schools. We need to expand that education career and do more with it. Someone said we could have our sims go to night school and work towards a degree... I'm all for that.

[TheGuySim]

Just like the dance parties in the LN trailers were ACTUALLY wild parties.

Yeah. Grain of salt the size of the African continent, please.

Pfft, hell yeah! Any club which has no more than 3 other people on the dance floor IS a wild partay.... :P

[rian90]

Simple. Put a menu on the Edit Town UI allowing players to define their holidays: What they are, how frequently they happen. Have a small number of stock NPC scenarios. Allow players to name the holidays, and set a "[Holiday Name] Costume" that people in town might wear that day. Make Grumpy Sims particularly grumpy those days.

Not sure you would need this. I would welcome holiday items with interactions available at the store. That way, you could download what you want. If you wanted Christmas, you could download that...or if you wanted Yule, you could download that. Items should include some trigger, like putting the cookies on the table that would attract Santa or putting a special log in the fireplace. This should be very simple and use the mechanics already in the game. One could put cookies out in the winter or in the summer, whatever suits them.

Of course, this should be in a Seasons pack, not this one so we should remember to bring it up when we are speculating about EP 6!

[rian90]

Unleashed is supposed to be for the consoles. Did I get that wrong?


This is a rumor with no basis. The video for Unleashed clearly shows a Win/Mac symbol at the end along with symbols for various consoles. It will be made for PC and most like it will be an EP. Pets has been made for console and EP in Sims 2 as well because it appeals to a lot of people.

The video, however, may be from the console version.

[lewisb40]

I don't think EA gets it about the store. I am interested in buying things that add gameplay, for example the laundry set for those whom didn't want Ambitions. I don't need the themed furniture, objects, or clothing sets so much, get better looking and more creative ones for free in the community.

Yeah, adding holiday themed objects that have special interactions and specific to cultural standards would make more sense in the store other than those awful looking clothes they added this month. IMHO.

[christmas fear]

i'm confused as to why the sims 3 console pets game will be called "unleashed" lol.

[acid_fairy]

i'm confused as to why the sims 3 console pets game will be called "unleashed" lol.

It's possible it's just a placeholder name, I mean there is a while until it is released. It's a better name than 'Pets' anyway!

[christmas fear]

honestly i hope it's just a placeholder. the name is fine but it was already used for the sims 1 haha.

[twilightgarden0]

Generations looks pretty good to me, I guess. Yeah, it's a bunch of stuff they probably should have given us before, but that doesn't mean I don't want it now that they're doing it. In the trailer one sim watches a home movie of a bachelor party online. You think our sims will be able to put their videos on the internet? Seems like it might focus a lot on pictures and home movies and capturing family moments. And I'm totally excited about the strollers and more wedding stuff.

On the other hand, I don't think anyone's mentioned the body hair on the guy who appears to have a mid-life crisis yet. Not looking forward to that in cas. Ew.

[DigitalSympathies]

Bleh.. I've seen that in my game. First time I put in a hot tub it showed that cutscene. Never seen it since though. I guess only works if you do the thing the very first time.

Yeah, it's just like first time I installed the game, the day it came out, I had my sims get engaged and it had a rejection cutscene quite similar to TS2's but with better camerawork and expressions. He was on his knees crying when she walked away. I was like D:< but I never saw it again. :blink:

[kiwi_tea]

I suspect the binding focus is that "social networking" aspect that comes through, particular in the sense of Sims being about to record their memories more fully. It's the only real possibility that comes through on that trailer - notice that it follows one Sim's journey - same guy all throughout. So I actually suspect the watching videos part of the trailer might be a real gameplay feature, especially given the camcorder.

As to the idea of placing holidays in the store, I hate that idea for two reasons. (a) The store is TERRIBLE value for money and we're not all ridiculously wealthy enough to buy Simpoints. I've never been able to, and own all my store items through kind donations from people who liked Niua Simoa/Riverblossom Hills. (b) I like the idea of players having *control* over what the holidays are and how they are defined. I don't want to be forced to *buy* Christmas. I want to be able to *make* Christmas, or maybe just SimNational Pancake Day.

[crocobaura]

On the other hand, I don't think anyone's mentioned the body hair on the guy who appears to have a mid-life crisis yet. Not looking forward to that in cas. Ew.

In the picture where they appear drunk and sleeping on the floor after the party, one of the guys seems to have hair on his back. :giggler:

[FridaKahlo]

I'm anxious to find out what the new supernatural creature will be. I would love either aliens or witches! Plus, since we're getting stink bombs, I really do hope that the chemistry set is coming back!

[lewisb40]

I suspect the binding focus is that "social networking" aspect that comes through, particular in the sense of Sims being about to record their memories more fully. It's the only real possibility that comes through on that trailer - notice that it follows one Sim's journey - same guy all throughout. So I actually suspect the watching videos part of the trailer might be a real gameplay feature, especially given the camcorder.

As to the idea of placing holidays in the store, I hate that idea for two reasons. (a) The store is TERRIBLE value for money and we're not all ridiculously wealthy enough to buy Simpoints. I've never been able to, and own all my store items through kind donations from people who liked Niua Simoa/Riverblossom Hills. (b) I like the idea of players having *control* over what the holidays are and how they are defined. I don't want to be forced to *buy* Christmas. I want to be able to *make* Christmas, or maybe just SimNational Pancake Day.

Sorry, I didn't mean to force buying Christmas, or whatever holiday goes with some simmers custom. I just thought about the members on the official forum griping the game is too "americanized" and not having enough created for their cultural customs. Also, some want the Christmas items to make an interaction, like causing Santa to appear (as in Sims 2), if so you know EA will not give that away. They will charge. Items like that make more sense to sell, but doesn't make it right.

I hope the internet social network is a part of gameplay in Generations. I would love for the kids to make a video of catching their parents woohooing and uploading it on the computer. See the parent react to that would be a hoot! I know, wicked imagination. :rofl:

[mickeymouse254]

Maybe instead of choosing a town having 4 winters, or 2 winters and 2 falls, how about you choose the climate in each season? Maybe in a certain town, you can choose winter to have a warm climate, with little precip., spring be like a harvesting climate, summer be cold and snowy ect. Then some sort of Christmas equivalent will happen during winter, regardless of what the climate is during that town's winter.

[SWSU-Master]

I'm anxious to find out what the new supernatural creature will be. I would love either aliens or witches! Plus, since we're getting stink bombs, I really do hope that the chemistry set is coming back!

I think its going to be Zombies to tie in with the University part.

[lisfyre]

On the other hand, I don't think anyone's mentioned the body hair on the guy who appears to have a mid-life crisis yet. Not looking forward to that in cas. Ew.

zOMG!! You know now that you mentioned it.... Ewwwww

I would honestly hate to see that in CAS.

[acid_fairy]

I hope proper drinking (as in alcohol) is included. It's included in Medieval (hell they even have a 'drunkard' trait) and that is still rated as Teen so here's hoping!

[Ive]

Don't see why they would bother to change it. They should but still.

[Rikachu]

I think its going to be Zombies to tie in with the University part.

Zombies have no point thanks to playable ghosts. They'd be the same thing, just solid, really.

[uchuujin]

I'm anxious to find out what the new supernatural creature will be. I would love either aliens or witches! Plus, since we're getting stink bombs, I really do hope that the chemistry set is coming back!

I wish it was witches, but maybe it's better if they don't do it now. We'd come after them with pitchforks if they screwed up the magic ability. ;)

I kind of want zombies. I had a zombie house of sorts in S2, who would all smustle together. It was like a bad(but awesome) version of Thriller, and I loved it.
Now that we can have bands, though.. I also had a zombie band(named "Zomboid") and had them do group streaking, too.

Oh man. Please say there will be retarded collegian shenanigans in Generations. *crosses fingers*

@Rikachu: That is so not true! One word: Braaaains.

[LollySims]

Zombies have no point thanks to playable ghosts. They'd be the same thing, just solid, really.

You can't have a zombie apocalypse with ghosts ;)

ETA: Actually, I want zombies that can bite Sims and turn them into zombies like vampires turn sims into vampires. I want a real zombie epidemic :D

[kiwi_tea]

Well, zombies walk differently, for a start. And there's a lot you could do with it. Like... ...having a low possibility of zombie attacks when you're in the Graveyard at night. Zombies could skill up in mental skills like Logic slower, and spread their infection via unsolicited bites.

It would be great if zombies never happened in the game naturally, but the player could actually trigger a zombie plague which could turn their save game into a bit more of a survivalist experience.

There hasn't actually been any evidence of university/college in Generations so far, though, has there? I mean, the pranks are there, but anything else?

[Rikachu]

That is true, and now that I think about it, if EA did it right, they could be really fun. I just don't see how they fit in with Generations, though. Although, come to think of it, they didn't fit in with University, either.

[Angstrom]

Saw the trailer on Youtube.

World Adventures, Ambitions and Late Night have added major game features new to the Sims series. Generations just adds pranks and theme parties. Like The Sims 2: University without university.

We have seen wedding arches, water slides and spiral staircases before; they are long overdue, and they don't do the trick.

At least we can hope for existing features getting improved. Schoolgoing is currently rather pointless, and needs a purpose.

[LollySims]

Well, zombies walk differently, for a start. And there's a lot you could do with it. Like... ...having a low possibility of zombie attacks when you're in the Graveyard at night.

I would love to see zombies actually crawl out of their graves...that would be so awesome, though probably next to impossible to actually implement into the current system. But it would give an extra spooky vibe to the graveyard :giggler:

[uchuujin]

I would love to see zombies actually crawl out of their graves...that would be so awesome, though probably next to impossible to actually implement into the current system. But it would give an extra spooky vibe to the graveyard :giggler:

That's what I said! :anime: I wish they could do the graveyard... actually, it wouldn't be TOO hard. They have the Miner, right? Maybe they would just pop out of designated areas, whether we could see them or not.

I wish EA had incorporated more of the folk tales and such into their supernatural beings. The vampires were awesome--this time they can't have garlic, but did you know that in Europe they used to put poppy seeds or millet on the ground next to the grave of a vampire, supposedly because they'd be compelled to count every single grain? So you see, there's another reason why the Count is called the Count... and that he loves to, uh, count. :giggler:

I guess adding oddball neuroses to the supernatural beings really amuses me. I was ecstatic when I saw that the zombies thought about brains all the time. :rofl:

[bassoon_crazy]

Do not want zombies.

Sorry. If they come back they have to be 100% like they were in The Sims 2: Harmless and only attainable through that phone thingy.

Any other way and every neighborhood would turn into a zombie apocalypse. I know everybody thinks that's "cool" but think about those of us who do not like zombies. There's enough "undead" in this game so far anyway.

---

Anyway, about the actual EP. I can't say I am impressed. I never loved Late Night (mostly due to EA ignoring my family of instruments AGAIN lol.) but at least it wasn't just a culmination of side features.

At the moment, Generations looks like nothing more than a bunch of side features thrown together. As noted above, pranks were a very small feature in University, but they're a MAIN feature here. What does that say about where EPs are going? Not anything good, I say.

If this is really all Generations is, Unleashed should have been combined with Generations. Unfortunately, I can't see Generations being anything more. They don't throw in major features and not advertise them in the trailer. =/

I can't believe we'll actually be charged $40 for this. As for me, I'll be waiting for Unleashed, and the much awaited Seasons EP after that.

[LollySims]

Any other way and every neighborhood would turn into a zombie apocalypse. I know everybody thinks that's "cool" but think about those of us who do not like zombies. There's enough "undead" in this game so far anyway.

Well, with vampires, biting isn't autonomous unless you have a mod. Zombies could be the same way. Playable zombies could bite others and spread the infection. NPC zombies would just wander harmlessly about town looking creepy, similar to how vampires are now. Then I'm sure the modding community would eventually make autonomous biting or no spawning mods, like they did for vampires to suit different people's play styles :)

This is all just hypothetical though anyway :lol:

[treeag]

At the moment, Generations looks like nothing more than a bunch of side features thrown together.

This. Agreed :faceslap: This looks like just some stuff thrown together as a last resort, you'd think this is like the last EP before they move on to another game or something. Most of the stuff are ripped from TS2 and it looks half-assed. Where's the theme? "Generations" just doesn't cut it.

[LollySims]

Remember, these videos seemed to just be accidentally leaked, and EA hasn't made an official announcement yet. We may very well be getting more in the EP than the video shows. It's still a little early to judge whether or not it'll be worth buying.

[Miss Harlequin]

I agree with Generations just being a culmination of features, however it includes features that were lacking in previous expansions. I'm hoping it'll be a 'sorry we messed up. Here's everything we should have included and we promise that our future expansions will be awesome' expansion :D

[ani_]

I hope the mid life crisis is not a feature that will be forced upon the player, like the instruments in LN were. Things are more fun in moderation.
This EP would actually be a good chance for EA to bring back some family oriented community lots, like restaurants, or clothe shopping or ice-ring and such.

[slitlips]

I honestly do hope for zombies again. If they don't go for the biting type, then I'd at least just love it for how they'd look... if they did them well, anyway.

I really hope this is VERY family and interaction oriented. I had a family of four in game just ten minutes ago and realized, I rarely let them interact with one another. There was nothing to do - I only let the mom talk to her son when she had a 'chat to son' wish and they wouldn't talk again until another had a wish. Half the time my sims don't even have friends because the interactions and types of relationships aren't very interesting. They just go about their days, fulfilling goals and that is starting to get... bland.

[gobot101]

I really hope this is VERY family and interaction oriented. I had a family of four in game just ten minutes ago and realized, I rarely let them interact with one another. There was nothing to do - I only let the mom talk to her son when she had a 'chat to son' wish and they wouldn't talk again until another had a wish. Half the time my sims don't even have friends because the interactions and types of relationships aren't very interesting. They just go about their days, fulfilling goals and that is starting to get... bland.

Same here. I've got a family of 5, and there is almost no interaction between them. About the only time they ever talk to each other is if they do it on their own, which is rare, or when they eat dinner together, which isn't that often. Really, I think the wife talks to plants more than her own husband, and I can't even remember the last time they kissed, let alone woohooed.

[lenglel]

Ever organize a family fishing trip? I did one today. Made sure everyones motives were close to max at about the same time,
got bait in everyone's inventory and went to the fishing spot. They fished all day eating food they'd grown in their garden and
interacting with each other, getting and fulfilling wishes about catching so many of a certain kind, or catching a new type of
fish. They came home tired, but happy. Reminded me of family outings I'd gone on as a boy. Maybe next fall they'll bring the
dog, and feed the cat a fresh caught fish when they get home.

[TheGuySim]

zOMG!! You know now that you mentioned it.... Ewwwww

I would honestly hate to see that in CAS.

If you don't want to see Body hair in CAS, then simply just don't click on the Body Hair Slider!

[acid_fairy]

But like I said earlier, aside from the video making, there still seems very few family interactions; the ages still seem extremely segregated. Which seems bizarre, as my sims rarely talk to each other also.

[saeda]

My sim families always autonomously interact with each other. I had a family with a family-oriented mother and father, they had two daughters (teen and child), they lived with the dad's father who had a girlfriend (and eventually wife who eventually had kids with him). So there were many generations in the house, babies were frequently born, and maids and babysitters were always around.

The kids talked to the adults, the grandfather talked to the service NPCs, the parents chatted with the grandfather's wife, etc. Everyone talked to everyone. I usually had to drag them away from a conversation just so they could get their homework done or go to work.

[Petchy]

...bout it, if EA did it right, they could be really fun. I just don't see how they fit in with Generations, though. Although, come to think of it, they didn't fit in with University, either.

They didn't fit in with Freetime which was the second time they were introducted, actually I thought the Zombie-Uni pun was quite good! "Zombies" in University was about Students being Zombie-like after a night out of partying and *ahem* hard study, a loose link, yes.. but it certainly worked. :)

On the other hand, I don't think anyone's mentioned the body hair on the guy who appears to have a mid-life crisis yet. Not looking forward to that in cas. Ew.

Body Hair is a natural thing that happens to a good large percentile of Males [and even females, too! (LOL)] and in the real world, you WILL meet a man with chest hair, Back hair, Arm hair, Leg hair and more! It's perfectly normal to have hair on these places, heck, everyone does, it's not disgusting or anything different to having eyebrows. I think it's time The Sims got some body hair.. all we need now is Facial scarring, realistic Acne, better Freckles...

[kiwi_tea]

Body Hair is a natural thing that happens to a good large percentile of Males [and even females, too! (LOL)]

Lies! Our natural state is not even to *have* hair follicles. Hairy bodies are a consequence of the Fall of Mankind as described in the Holy Bible.

[Robodl95]

Chest and back hair aren't very attractive but I think that shaving your legs and arms (for a guy) is very strange, it's about time that sims got body hair! I hate them looking so bald... it's not natural.

[el_flel]

<snip> I hate them looking so bald <snip>Ditto! I'm quite looking forward to the introduction of this.

[lisfyre]

If you don't want to see Body hair in CAS, then simply just don't click on the Body Hair Slider!

I wasn't going to... that's if they do put it in CAS.

[rian90]

I wasn't going to... that's if they do put it in CAS.

I hope they put it in CAS!! I would love to have guys with body hair. I like the realism..since most guys over 30 have body hair...unless they shave, which is probably as ewwy to me as body hair is to you. ;)

[JackJess]

EA are probably to lazy to do this, (or there might actually be no point and I'm just acting like a total mesh head) but do you think EA would make the body hair fweee deee? (3D) *flutters eyelashes*

[pencilcase]

I may be seeing things but, if you look at the pictures on the walls throughout the trailer, there is one with him and his parents and he's in a robe type thing...maybe like a graduation day photo :giggler:

You can see it just after the prom bit at 0:46

Could uni be making a return? I'm probably seeing what I want to see. Either that or EA is tricking me in seeing what I want to see but still....what you guys think?

[rian90]

EA are probably to lazy to do this, (or there might actually be no point and I'm just acting like a total mesh head) but do you think EA would make the body hair fweee deee? (3D) *flutters eyelashes*

I doubt it and I don't think it is laziness. A texture with a bump map will be good enough and it will not increase the polys of the characters. I prefer good enough to more lag just to have tiny 3d hairs all over the sims body. LOL

[Lily__XD]

@Pencilcase - maybe it's just graduation from high-school. I'm skeptical that we'd get Uni and whatever this is supposed to be.

If it is graduation party for high school I'd still be happy to get some kind of satisfaction out of that "See YADA Graduate" wish that seems to be hanging about as soon as you get a teen in your household.

[Blooplie]

Does anyone remember the first Sims 2 official trailer? It is still on youtube, I view it alot because I really hoped sims2 would be like that, but the trailer seems to have more in common with sims3 than sims2. In any case, it shows a sim going through various phases of life, dating, marriage, kids...the parents gone party, graduation, marriage and generations of a family. I hope that generations is like that. Of course the bride carrying the groom over the threshold would be great but mmm, I don't think EA will let out little lady simmies rip open their blouses..oh well

[Cheese678]

It looks cool, but not really. I mean, just a few more interactions? Yawn.

[LollySims]

What's bugging me about the trailer is the lack of new toddler interactions. They show the father teaching his toddler how to talk, and the mom teaching him how to walk, but we have that already. Also, don't we already have tickling, or am I losing my mind? I would've liked to have seen something new with them, and I'm hoping EAxis just didn't want to reveal too much too soon. Obviously, I'm excited about strollers, but the video doesn't actually show them in use.

Also, they seem to reuse a lot of stuff we already have, like the typical birthday party, the older Sim exercising to lose weight, etc. And is it just me, or are the pics on the fridge, namely the 40th Dad pic, really fake looking? That one in particular doesn't look very Sims-like to me. For one thing, wouldn't it be in Simlish? :blink:

I do like the idea that Sims might be more aware of their weight now. I like how the middle-aged Sim holds his gut and looks upset. Right now, the Sims can yo-yo up and down in weight, and not seem to care one way or the other. However, this could just be really good staging on EA's part, and maybe they aren't really going to be so self-aware :P

[bassoon_crazy]

Obviously, I'm excited about strollers, but the video doesn't actually show them in use.

You did realize the picture in the background, right? I don't remember exactly where it was in the trailer but there was a picture with the stroller in use. Not saying that it actually confirms anything, but it might help to ease your worries a bit.

EDIT: In this (http://snootysims.com/extras/generations/genvid01.jpg) picture.

I do like the idea that Sims might be more aware of their weight now. I like how the middle-aged Sim holds his gut and looks upset. Right now, the Sims can yo-yo up and down in weight, and not seem to care one way or the other. However, this could just be really good staging on EA's part, and maybe they aren't really going to be so self-aware :P

Yeah, we know how trailers are at this point. I remember how the Late Night trailer fooled me into believing that we'd have singers in our bands, but that didn't come to reality.

That animation could have been created solely for this trailer. =(

[rian90]

And is it just me, or are the pics on the fridge, namely the 40th Dad pic, really fake looking? That one in particular doesn't look very Sims-like to me. For one thing, wouldn't it be in Simlish? :blink:

It would not be in simlish if they are using this as a promotional video. They want us to know what is going on. :)

[LollySims]

You did realize the picture in the background, right? I don't remember exactly where it was in the trailer but there was a picture with the stroller in use. Not saying that it actually confirms anything, but it might help to ease your worries a bit.

EDIT: In this (http://snootysims.com/extras/generations/genvid01.jpg) picture.

Yeah, I saw the picture, but considering it's a major addition that a lot of people have been wanting, they should've showed it in the video for real, instead of interactions we already have. Of course they still could be working the kinks out of it, who knows :P

[SoCalSimz]

Yeah, I saw the picture, but considering it's a major addition that a lot of people have been wanting, they should've showed it in the video for real, instead of interactions we already have. Of course they still could be working the kinks out of it, who knows :P

Maybe it is a viral type hint

[Ive]

Shoe rack in the back of that stroller picture?

Yay for more normal decoration objects (I hope!)