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magicmuffinlolzz
3rd Apr 2011, 02:58 AM
I'm building a house, and I desperately need help with my staircase... I've done a split-level, simple L-shaped staircase (which I've done before, but not in a while), and I have the stairs and the foundation set up, but I can't put the walls around it. It says "covered by floor tile" every time I try! Please help!!

Kneon_Knight
3rd Apr 2011, 03:29 AM
Do you have Pets installed? That expansion made building a nightmare. Try a top down view, looking directly down on the stairs and see if it will let you build then.

EDIT: Wait, you said foundation, correct? If you try building a wall at ground level next to the foundation it won't let you. You need to use the "stage" platforms instead. Also, this topic might be better suited to the "Help" section; I think a similar (if not identical) topic was in there. ;)

katalina522
3rd Apr 2011, 03:39 AM
This belongs in the building forum, but: there is no easy way to build walls around a split-level staircase. It will require a lot of time and fiddling with the floor elevation cheat.

That said, if you just want to make walls around the staircase itself (and not above), turn on boolProp constrainfloorelevation false. Next, remove any other walls on the house that will get in your way, because you are going to have to mess with the floor heights and it's much less complicated this way. **make sure that you have a wall built somewhere else on the yard that is the height you want, so you can level the new walls** Then make the walls around the staircase. This will mess up the floor on the stairs until you re-level it.

Keep in mind that no matter what, there will be an area where you cannot place floor tiles on the upstairs, or else it will ruin the staircase.

MAB-2000
3rd Apr 2011, 05:04 PM
I can't understand what exactly you want to do,but it seems that you need to make a dummy level!

I would make an example lot to show you, but my game have been srewed up!

So I made a picture for you!

On the left is the wall height [start counting from the end of the previous wall,not the ground]
On the right is how the levels must be for that you want to build [not actually the level count in the game]

the only problem with this way is that the first set of stairs will be 8 clicks,and the second set [split-level to top] will be minimum 12 clicks (9 clicks with the use of GridAdjuster (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=327439&c=0&ht=0&page=4&pp=25) [B](which I suggest using, as it is the closest way to the results you want!)

Alternatively, you can use GridAdjuster (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=327439&c=0&ht=0&page=4&pp=25) for the whole prosses!

Hope the image helps ;)

Let me know if this is not what you want to do!

katalina522
4th Apr 2011, 07:46 PM
MAB, there is no need for a dummy level... a split-level stair with a landing 8 clicks high will still be a total of 16 clicks, the same as the standard wall, whether it is on a foundation or not. You would need a dummy level if you were doing something like attaching a garage to a house on a foundation. What the OP wants to do is build a wall that sits right up against the side of the staircase, which requires multiple sweeps of CFE to get everything leveled properly. But you still only need two wall levels.

MAB-2000
5th Apr 2011, 01:38 PM
katalina,the foundation is not involved in anyway with what OP wants to do.It doesn't matter whether it is on foundation or on ground!

But,I may not have understand completely what OP wants to do!

the wall will be here? top view!

http://s2.postimage.org/w7cb8msk/Untitled.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/w7cb8msk/)

HugeLunatic
5th Apr 2011, 03:18 PM
If creating L-shaped stairs with wall on the sides it's best to place walls before using CFE to lower floor where the landing is going to be. There's no need for a dummy level, unless you don't want the siding to be angled. MAB I have no idea how your getting 8 clicks and 12 clicks and what direction your going. A wall is 16 clicks. An L-shaped staircase with equal length staircases would have the landing 8 clicks. Dummy levels or GridAdjuster are not needed.


Tutorials:Stairs_Tutorials

MAB-2000
5th Apr 2011, 08:16 PM
Yeah,HugeLunatic,forget about the dummy level! I didn't have completely understand what magicmuffin wants to do!

If there is a dummy level the second set of stairs should be at least 12 cliks!

:rofl:

katalina522
7th Apr 2011, 01:44 AM
I believe this is what the OP is going for... ignore the fact that the walls aren't painted!

MAB-2000
14th Apr 2011, 11:31 AM
I assume that OP wants to build either something like that:

http://postimage.org/image/34tpgw9j8/



or something similar to this:

http://postimage.org/image/kt5e890k/

http://postimage.org/image/ktp8oexw/

I think option 2 is what OP wants to do.

This option requires a dummy level and (optional) GridAjuster.
Moreover basic knowledge is needed if you want to build a livable level above the one that the top of the stair is!

Anyway,it is vital to provide us with more info for what you want to build!

If you find this too confusing,I could build the stairs and floors above!
PM me to make it for you! ;)

HugeLunatic
14th Apr 2011, 01:54 PM
This isn't a contest to see who can guess what the OP really meant. ;) Please wait for the OP to come back and clarify before posting so as to not confuse them anymore.

MAB-2000
14th Apr 2011, 02:53 PM
I have to agree,we must wait for OP before proceeding!

Cilogy
15th Apr 2011, 03:12 AM
I think I know what the OP means, because I was trying to do this today.

I think we want to build those split level stairs like the pic katalina posted (http://thumbs2.modthesims.info/img/2/2/7/7/0/4/4/MTS2_thumb_katalina522_1189342_snapshot_00000001_7aa8f72c.jpg) but also be able to build straight walls around the stairs.

If we do it with the constrain cheat ON, then it will slant the tiles of the half-level.

If we do it with the constrain cheat OFF, then it will show an error (like "attached to wall" or something like that).

I wonder if there's a way to get around this and eliminate any slanted walls.