Humanmetrics?

[opiumgirl]

I was wondering if any of you have heard of Humanmetrics?
It is a personality study based off the typology of Jung-Meyers-Briggs.

My brother recommended this to me and I thought it was very interesting until I discovered that I tested for the same type as my brother!
I had my husband do the test, same type!
So I thought :wtf: and I sent it to my friend of 20 years and he has the same type.

Now I'm wondering what is up with this since our personality type is only supposed to occur in 3% of the world population.
Is the test bogus?
Do weirdos naturally congregate or what?
I would love to hear your thoughts!

[simbalena]

So what's your type? I got INTJ (the same as Carl Jung :anime: ).

Personally I don't believe a word of it because it said a good career for me would be an Information System Specialist but I'm an Information Systems Co-ordinator. So very wrong!

And yes weirdos do congregate, but I'm fairly sure that weirdo is also contagious. The longer you are around one the more you become one.

edit - no wait... it says I'm a Rational Mastermind so I totally believe it.

[opiumgirl]

haha! I'm also INTJ
This is what I find so bizarre, everyone I seem to know is also a rational mastermind!
I think is makes a kind of sense, since according to them INTJs are sort of peculiar and don't have a lot of time for most people. I certainly find them utterly boring.
It would make sense that they would get on with each other. I mean think of all the lovely arguments, right?
Intellectual arguing certainly is our main pass-time when we get together.

But this is my analytical side kicking in and I just have to question the validity of the test.
I was hoping to find some one on here that either study or practice psychology and/or are familiar with this test and could shed some light
On the other hand I also suspect that INTJs would enjoy playing sims, so I would be curious to see just how many of us are on here.
So maybe we should just all do it?

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

I hope I added this correctly

[simbalena]

I studied psychology so I'm familiar with the Myers-briggs test. My learnings teached me that it is valid but then again what do learnings know?

(yeah it's been a few years since I studied.)

[VerDeTerre]

I hadn't heard of humanmetrics. I'll have to give it a go when I have a chance. I know a lot of people like the Myers-briggs descriptions of personality types and I thought they made sense, but my son, who is still in college, feels that as a way of understanding of personality type it has been somewhat debunked in the world of psychology, or at least in the world of his psychology classes. I don't know. My take would be that it describes only so much. I don't really understand the complaints.

By the way, the people at this site don't fall into the same MB category. There's a thread on it, somewhere.

*Edit* I found the thread. I was wrong - I did know about humanmetrics, I just didn't make a note of the name of the test. It was offered in this thread. Also, of note, we had different types here, although by looking at the thread, one type is more represented than the others.

http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=463189&c=1&ht=&page=1&pp=25#startcomments

[haricots]

I got ESTP.

[VerDeTerre]

I got ESTP. You are the most different of the others who are willing to share their type :)

[maxon]

We had a thread on this recently. Some people think it's useful/ok, others think it's limited/inaccurate. Pretty fair reflection of what the academic world thinks of it too.

[opiumgirl]

@ VerDeTerre- thank you for finding that thread!

Introverted: 22%
Intuitive: 62%
Thinking: 1%
Judgging: 11%

My husband and I have this current theory that if you look at the different percentages you will have a multitude of variants in a broad personality sub-group.
I am currently testing this on my friends to see if this is the case. My friends don't mind being guinea pigs.

@haricots- some variety yeah!
From that other thread it looks like people do test differently. I was getting really paranoid that the world was made up of INTJs.
Or that I threw a wobbly ;)

[maxon]

From that other thread it looks like people do test differently. I was getting really paranoid that the world was made up of INTJs.
Or that I threw a wobbly ;)
I think of all the threads I have seen on this subject (and there is nearly always a thread on every message board I have ever visited), that particular combination is very common. It's a bit odd as I believe it is one of the more uncommon ones in the general population. I've seen people speculate that introverts are more likely to use the web to socialise which kind of makes sense (though I wouldn't believe that to be the case without hard evidence from a well-designed study). Personally, I think the assumptions underlying the Myers-Briggs theory and tests are limited and the scheme too one-dimensional to describe the complexities of human personalities but the validity of the idea isn't what you wanted to discuss so I'll shut up about that.

[opiumgirl]

I think of all the threads I have seen on this subject (and there is nearly always a thread on every message board I have ever visited), that particular combination is very common. It's a bit odd as I believe it is one of the more uncommon ones in the general population. I've seen people speculate that introverts are more likely to use the web to socialise which kind of makes sense

This is something to think about for sure. Internet socialization vs real life socializing. It would make for a very interesting study. Especially as viewed in terms of the different personality types.

In my case it is real life friends who classifies as INTJs. Which I also find interesting, because as you have said it is supposed to be a rare personality type. I am surrounded by them.

[Spitfire Mouse]

I appear to be ISFJ according to this test.
Introverted 67
Sensing 50
Feeling 12
Judging 11

In the detailed explanations some of it is spot on, but there are parts that I don't feel are me.

I'm positive I've done a longer and more detailed version of this test before a long time ago and ended up with a different analysis.

The problem with this one is that it seems like it doesn't take into account different situations. Most of the questions ask for an absolute and I can always answer both Yes and No depending on how I feel at the time or by bringing certain examples to mind. I might be one way with friends and family, but in work or new situations are completely different.

I also wouldn't be surprised if age alters it a little. There are questions that I would definitely answer differently now as I'm older. Maybe that's why my analysis is different?

And I'm not sure about the "judging" part. Does that mean judging as in weighing options and considering outcomes? Or does it mean judgmental? Because I'm way more judgmental that a measly 11%. Well, I think I am anyway.


Certainly a fun and interesting test, but not 100% accurate for me. :lol:

[Selly_2009]

Mine came out as ISTJ.

Introverted: 67%
Sensing: 38%
Thinking: 12%
Judging: 67%

Hmm, I wasn't overly sure at those results, however clicking on the Profile page describes me as an "inspector".. reading through, yeah, I kind of agree with that.

Spitfire Mouse, I think they're referring to judging as weighing all options - I wouldn't say I was judgemental (certainly not 67%), but I do tend to weigh up my options.. :lol:

[haricots]

You are the most different of the others who are willing to share their type :)
Really? :lol:
Is my type rare? Or easily found? Or what? ???

[paksetti]

Didn't we have another thread about this not too long ago?

[KKiryu007Joker]

I'm pretty sure we did, I'll get the link to it. <EDIT: Was this it? http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=463189 >

[andre8]

I got ISTJ.

I am:

slightly expressed introvert
slightly expressed sensing personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
slightly expressed judging personality

And I got:

Introvert: 11%
Sensing: 1%
Thinking: 12%
Judging: 1%

[anothereyjana]

Another IN here, as well. Mine said INFP (http://typelogic.com/infp.html), with:

Introverted--22%
Intuitive--62%
Feeling-- 75%
Perceiving--56%

There is a good deal of it that sounds like me, but I definitely don't see things in good vs. evil terms -- I may exaggerate a bit and tend to see things as more epic than they are (which may actually be what they were trying to say, now that I think about it), I just don't tend to believe very much in absolutes, especially in human-constructed concepts like "good" and "evil." I also don't automatically look for the best in people or see things with rose-colored glasses (though I do admit to the whole "finding a sense of adventure and wonder in the mundane thing"--I actually like that part of myself, as much as people like to roll eyes at me for it, and it definitely helps to have a side like that if you're doing something creative), but I don't tend to be very judgmental, and won't automatically just assume that someone is scum simply because others label them as such; "criminals," "junkies," etc. are human beings as well and deserve to be treated as such (just realize that they have to be serious about getting clean or going straight, otherwise you just risk enabling them and getting both of you hurt; if they're serious and want/need help, I'll try). I guess maybe that that can tie into the whole "healer" thing that the other description (http://keirsey.com/4temps/healer.aspx) uses (as much as I think that the vast majority of that personality description is way off).
I do admit to having a strong drive to want to help humanity as a whole, but am vague on the details as how to do it.

All in all, I think of it the way I think of other personality tests and astrology horoscopes;
I like taking them because I think that it's interesting to see what they get right, and funny to see which parts that they get wrong (because when they do, it's always seriously, "you missed this by a mile"-level wrong), but ultimately, you cannot break down the nuances of every single human being into simple packages with just a series of questions, and should therefore not be taken completely seriously (and definitely not honestly used in any kind of employment evaluation setting :faceslap: ).

Also, has anyone noticed the bit at the bottom, about fictional versions of the personality types? How exactly are they testing that...? :wtf:

[opiumgirl]

Also, has anyone noticed the bit at the bottom, about fictional versions of the personality types? How exactly are they testing that...? :wtf:

I was wondering about that as well! It bugs the crap out of my husband.

Maybe they just list characters that they feel displays certain or all aspects of the type?
I had Gandalf the Grey as one, it works for me ;)

@haricots- I believe your type is about 10% of the world population. :)

[VerDeTerre]

Really? :lol:
Is my type rare? Or easily found? Or what? ??? I don't know how rare, it looks like Opiumgirl answered that for you. It's just that your type stands out in a sea of those here whose types typically begin with "I". No matter how the test came out, you would be rare. You are the only little starfish I know on MTS. :)

Another IN here, as well. Mine said INFP We have the same type!

[PSHS]

i got ENFP.

funny. i remember taking this test in high school and i got something that started with an IN__.
oh well. people change, i suppose. :-)

[VerDeTerre]

i got ENFP.

funny. i remember taking this test in high school and i got something that started with an IN__.
oh well. people change, i suppose. :-) Perhaps you were more on the border with introspection/extroversion? Most people are a mix, anyway.

[haricots]

I don't know how rare, it looks like Opiumgirl answered that for you. It's just that your type stands out in a sea of those here whose types typically begin with "I". No matter how the test came out, you would be rare. You are the only little starfish I know on MTS. :)
Starfish? I'm a starfish? ... YEAH! I AM A STARFISH!!! :giggler:

[SimsLover50]

I am an INFJ.

Heh. Not sure how accurate it is, because sometimes I do neither. But that's how it rated me.

Ironically, it nailed my profession pretty well. Education.

[VerDeTerre]

I am an INFJ.

Heh. Not sure how accurate it is, because sometimes I do neither. But that's how it rated me.

Ironically, it nailed my profession pretty well. Education. I can agree to the INF part of it for you - we share that and I've noticed that we often share similar outlooks and ways of approaching topics on the boards. I'm in education too :)

[WayBack]

That was fun. I love tests though the result is not exactly a compliment to me.

INTJ
Introverted - 67%
Intuitive - 38%
Thinking - 88%
Judging - 33%

No Sensing, no Feeling. I'm sitting on the same boat with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Hillary Clinton, and Hannibal Lecter. That would be a great movie, but I'd be the first one to die :lol:

[malfoya]

ESFJ

.. I have no idea what I just participated in ;P

[whiterider]

Interesting. I always used to be INFP, but this time round I got INFJ - 33% J, too. Apparently this change has occurred whilst studying law, which is one of the recommended careers for INFJ... chicken and egg, much?

[VerDeTerre]

What exactly is that subtle difference between P (perceiving) versus J (judging)? If I were to guess, I would say that P would relate to how one might get his information by subtle means - by awareness of tone of voice, body language, various sources of background knowledge, feelings, impressions, etc... and that J would be when one gets his information through more straightforward and rational or defensible means. But I don't know.

[frankokomando]

My Type is - ISTJ

Introverted - 78%
Sensing - 25%
Thinking - 12%
Judging - 33%

[Lavaster]

I got ENFJ. I'm not extroverted in social situations, though; mainly when it comes to business (presentations, tours, etc.). However, it said careers that match me would be found in the counseling, psychology, education, management, politics, science, computer programming, and physician fields, which is very accurate.

[Kathwynn]

Your Type is
INTJ
Strength of the preferences % Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

22 62 1 56

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

slightly expressed introvert
distinctively expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed judging personality

[kampffenhoff]

Did this very quickly and came out ENFP with 100% extraverted, 25% intuitive, 88% feeling and 22% perceiving. I'm an accountant who sings and plays flute in an orchestra {when I have time}. So, if this means anything at all I don't know what it is. I also have perfect pitch.

[opiumgirl]

What exactly is that subtle difference between P (perceiving) versus J (judging)? If I were to guess, I would say that P would relate to how one might get his information by subtle means - by awareness of tone of voice, body language, various sources of background knowledge, feelings, impressions, etc...

I think that this would be the case for both P and J. I think the difference between the two is that a J would weigh the options or different inputs against each other and then decide based on this. A P would just take in the information and not necessarily decide between two options and just take it at face value. At least this is the conclusion I come to but I am a J and I might be talking complete nonsense :)

[VerDeTerre]

I think that this would be the case for both P and J. I think the difference between the two is that a J would weigh the options or different inputs against each other and then decide based on this. A P would just take in the information and not necessarily decide between two options and just take it at face value. At least this is the conclusion I come to but I am a J and I might be talking complete nonsense :) LOL. I think, between the two of us that we're approaching the difference but haven't nailed it. I'm a P and I am sure I weigh options, but use some other means to make the decision than typical rational thought.

[opiumgirl]

LOL. I think, between the two of us that we're approaching the difference but haven't nailed it. I'm a P and I am sure I weigh options, but use some other means to make the decision than typical rational thought.

Maybe you use a more holistic process as opposed to rational? :D

I don't want to say intuitive, because intuition has nothing to with judging or perceiving. Also my strongest attribute is intuition even though I am a rational.

I really have no idea!
Maybe some of the others can chime in too?
I'll ask my husband when he comes home, he is always good to jam ideas with. :lol:

[VerDeTerre]

I don't want to say intuitive, because intuition has nothing to with judging or perceiving. Also my strongest attribute is intuition even though I am a rational.

I've come to define intuition differently from a "feeling". I've seen how this works for me, at least, that when I "intuit" something, I quickly have a sense of how to answer/respond/proceed, but if I really stop and think about it, that intuition is based on past experiences and knowledge.

[iCad]

ENFJ. Or a "Teacher." (Hah, given that I am one. Of piano, that is, since one cannot live on gigs alone...or at least I can't.) I've taken this sort of thing a few times in my life, and it's interesting to see the continuum. I used to be shy and introverted and all that...but being a performer changes that, of necessity, at least if you want to be successful. I went from extreme introvert to extreme extravert. Go me. So it's not like one is locked into a personality, really. At least, I wasn't. *shrugs*

As for the predominance of "I"s as opposed to "E"s...I tend to think that introverted people prefer Internet communication over the face-to-face kind, so it's not like it should be surprising that an Internet forum is populated with a lot of introverted people. Me, I'm weird. I just like communication, exchanging ideas with as many people as possible. Communication is good, and the nets allow me to communicate with people all the way on the other side of the planet and on the underside of the planet. I dig that. :)

[VerDeTerre]

It's odd, but as an "I", I find that internet communication does not wear me out as much as face to face communication (or even over the phone). Maybe writing everything down allows me to stay in my own head. Plus, it's quiet.

[Oaktree]

I went ahead and took it and got about what I expected. INTJ, with the J being just barely; basically, I'm almost evenly split between P and J. The I was absolute and the N was pretty strong. The T was stronger than the J, but still semi-moderate. It's pretty accurate, but I don't think it's set in stone. Sometimes I have strongly feelings oriented moments; rarely - but sometimes - I am more concrete than theoretical.

I don't think anybody fits perfectly into the type they score as. And the type scores are too general to really say much about a person. As an INTJ, you might expect me to be extremely gruff and reserved, not very interested in other peoples' feelings, and set in my ways. I've met INTJs like that. That's not the case for me. I am uncomfortable around lots of people, but it's more about being worn out by lots of people than being reserved; I am very sensitive to the emotions of people around me, but not usually overtly emotional, myself, and I am very open to new ideas, so long as they are expressed rationally. So I don't usually rely on these sorts of personality tests for figuring out what a person is like.

[mangaroo]

ISTJ, based on this test. I've always tested INTJ before, so now I've decided to freak out because a random internet test has suggested that OMG I am changing. (Ironically, freaking out over change would appear to be in line with the ISTJ profile. I want my N back!)

[treeag]

I used to be ISFP about 3 years ago but now I'm apparently INTJ... interesting.

[Elyasis]

Those having trouble with type should look into the actual cognitive functions. Get the book by Jung preferably and then suss out which function is your dominant and which is auxiliary and match it to the type. It's a lot more accurate than online questionnaires.

Here are some free online resources:
http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/
http://cognitivequiz.com/quiz.html

[opiumgirl]

Those having trouble with type should look into the actual cognitive functions. Get the book by Jung preferably and then suss out which function is your dominant and which is auxiliary and match it to the type. It's a lot more accurate than online questionnaires.

Here are some free online resources:
http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/
http://cognitivequiz.com/quiz.html

Thanks a lot for that! I will check it out. I have a feeling this is what I was looking for :)