Help with Sim

[lionessgirl]

Okay, so a friend of mine suggested, as a challenge that I make a no slider hacks, CC free sim that's good enough to get on MTS (turns out she had a bet with someone else that a good sim could be made... etcetera)
Still, here my first in-game pictures, any advice is welcome:

[malfoya]

The sim should definately have some smaller eyes. This is probably the thing most people are doing wrong when making interesting looking sims. Big eyes are quite doll like and usually only look "normal" on cartoon characters:P I would also have picked another eye color as this barely shows. The nose is quite good. I like that it's not perfect looking! Maybe it can be more crocked from the side? Like the nose is his most characteristic feature? His lips are a little too full I think. Try to make them more shaped.

[Riptide651]

Well, see... The thing is with sims, is that if you are not basing it off of someone, it really difficult to say fix this or that, because it is personal preference and everyone gives a different opinion. But If you make him as unique and real as possible, it shouldnt be a problem.

If anything, the eyes, as malfoya said.

[lionessgirl]

Okay, here is the revised version, I shrunk the eyes and thinned the lips and I messed around a bit with the nose tip and bridge. I also changed the eye colour to one which is more visable, but I think it's still a bit darker then the defalts, which I personally find too bright. Any more comments are welcome.

[FREEDOM_55]

hes looking unique already:) I think you got the beginnings of something...
possible suggestions:
-his eyes could be scaled smaller
- make his bridge a bit thinner
- give him a bump in his nose bridge
make his nostrils a bit wider
- bring his eye depth out more
- bring his whole profile out more
- lower his eyebrows down
-decrease nose mass a a tiny bit
give him a stronger jaw shape but keep the width

[lionessgirl]

Tweaked a few more things.

[lionessgirl]

Okay, I submitted him but got rejected. The reason was not unique enough-here's the detailed points:
The facial sculpt is quite unbalanced... The different facial features don't work together well enough, for example, the mouth is too far low from the nose and the eye area is very round
Here are some screenshots where I've tried to address this:

[SimmyRN]

I think he looks unique and interesting. Did you try re-submitting him?

[malfoya]

I think an interesting look is as important as attractive. There are enough Barbie and Ken pudding faces with bright lipstick out there. This sim for once looks like he has a personality and can be used for something :) Don't give up on him for sure!

[rian90]

I like him! Faces are not always balanced...that is why we perceive some people as attractive or not attractive. I would suggest uploading him elsewhere. There are lots of simmers, myself included, who prefer interesting sims, not ones with exaggerated features or ones that are typically beautiful. I rarely download non-celeb sims from MTS for this reason. I find them all very similar..too exaggerated or too beautiful.