Getting pregnant by lover not husband

[Dizzy-noodles]

Hiya :)

So I'm thinking of getting my married sim pregnant by her lover. Will her husband know it's not his? And will he get a cheating memory?

I'm probably going to do it anyway :) just curious!

[sushigal007]

He'll sort of know it's not his because the real father will be listed in the family tree. But he won't get a cheating memory unless he actually catches them cheating.

[omglo]

I'm pretty sure he'll never roll any fatherly wants about the baby, either, such as wanting to get her into private school, or that she becomes an over achiever. Otherwise, he'll treat the child like his own and won't have negative feelings toward it or the wife. I've always thought the game should have either have such a birth to make relationship scores drop, or found a way around the Sim psychically knowing they're not the father.

[lauratje86]

In a vanilla game the husband won't actively know - like others have said, he won't get the cheating memory, but the family tree will not show him as the father and he won't roll parental wants about the child.

Isn't there a hack that makes it so that the spouse may work out that the baby isn't his (if his logic is high enough, or if he and his wife have never woohoo'd)? And also negatively affects the relationship between teens who become pregnant and their parents? Or was that for The Sims 3?

**EDIT** Never mind; there is and I found it - it's on an 18+ site so I won't link it here.....

[Gcgb53191]

I'm pretty sure he'll never roll any fatherly wants about the baby, either, such as wanting to get her into private school, or that she becomes an over achiever. Otherwise, he'll treat the child like his own and won't have negative feelings toward it or the wife. I've always thought the game should have either have such a birth to make relationship scores drop, or found a way around the Sim psychically knowing they're not the father.

I thinks its good the way it is I mean I'm sure there's lots of men out there who might not know their kid isn't theirs without an actual DNA test how else would you know unless the baby is a different color then it should be xD

[lauratje86]

I do think it's a bit weird that they apparently don't know that the baby isn't theirs (ie don't count the wife as having cheated) but they also don't roll wants to get the child into private school, have it do well in school etc. It's almost like they don't actually know, but kind of suspect and hence aren't so interested in the child.... Weird!

I like the idea of sims potentially figuring out that the child isn't theirs, it makes more sense to me that way. If you haven't woohoo'd your wife for a few days (or ever!), and you're at least vaguely intelligent, wouldn't you be a tad suspicious if she suddenly told you she was pregnant?! :-D

[Fivey]

In a vanilla game the husband won't actively know - like others have said, he won't get the cheating memory, but the family tree will not show him as the father and he won't roll parental wants about the child.

Isn't there a hack that makes it so that the spouse may work out that the baby isn't his (if his logic is high enough, or if he and his wife have never woohoo'd)? And also negatively affects the relationship between teens who become pregnant and their parents? Or was that for The Sims 3?

**EDIT** Never mind; there is and I found it - it's on an 18+ site so I won't link it here.....

Then at least send me the link in a PM (interesteddd here).

[omglo]

I thinks its good the way it is I mean I'm sure there's lots of men out there who might not know their kid isn't theirs without an actual DNA test how else would you know unless the baby is a different color then it should be xDThe issue is that the Sims do know the baby isn't theirs. I wouldn't mind if Sims who didn't know they'd been cheated on got their 'have a baby' wants filled and got "had [Kid's name]!" memories and rolled wants about the kid, but the game is set up so the dad knows he's not the biological dad, but without any of the fun drama attached.

lauratje86, thanks for mentioning that. I just went over there and got it.

[Vladora]

What's even stranger to me is that the child won't roll wants for the parent that isn't theirs. Toddlers often have wants to be interacted with by their parents, but only their biological ones. I had a Sim who couldn't care for her baby, so her parents took it in to raise as their own. As a toddler, she only rolled generic "be talked to", etc. wants. It's always kind of bugged me how kids instinctively know who their "real" parents are, but I guess it would be difficult to code it otherwise. I guess the exception to this is adoption.

[mozgun]

I plan on doing this soon in my game! However, would I be able to get rid of the baby without killing it? Is putting a baby up for adoption possible?

[Fivey]

What's even stranger to me is that the child won't roll wants for the parent that isn't theirs. Toddlers often have wants to be interacted with by their parents, but only their biological ones. I had a Sim who couldn't care for her baby, so her parents took it in to raise as their own. As a toddler, she only rolled generic "be talked to", etc. wants. It's always kind of bugged me how kids instinctively know who their "real" parents are, but I guess it would be difficult to code it otherwise. I guess the exception to this is adoption.

It bugs me too. Casper treats his stepdad as his real dad (Teiji Bubbler was the one who raised him), but never rolled wants about him as a toddler. However, when he turned into a child, the wants started rolling in. Really, even as a young adult, Casper has a better relationship with Teiji than he does with his mom. His relationship with Teiji far trumps the relationship he has with his real dad, who still refuses to hug him.

I know it's a father-son relationship rather than best friends because they can't flirt with each other. But seriously, they are really close.

http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/7/1/8/6/1/6/4/MTS_Fivey-1300393-snapshot_7c9e1052_3cb08f0e.jpg

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[Vladora]

Awww, that's sweet. And yeah, it'd be nice if kids could recognize the guy who changed their diapers, taught them to walk, and helped them with homework as their father instead of the guy their mother had a one night stand with that they've never even met. I wish there was a way to Propose > Adoption or something.

[Peni Griffin]

I believe you will find that if the biological father flirts with the mother in front of the kid, the kid will react to him as to a homewrecking stranger.

Tri Ku never met his stepfather till the day his mother married him, when he was a toddler, but they've been friends since the moment he toddled onto the lot, when he was still mad at his mother for romancing someone (not his uncle) who was also romantically linked to his aunt. But then Tri's got a particularly irregular family. And I have no idea how he's going to relate to his biological father when they finally meet, since he only just made child.

It might have been too difficult to allow a wife to accept her husband's alien babies if they included code that assumed a husband would reject his wife's illegitimate offspring.

What bothers me is that they won't roll wants to do with any relatives except the parents. Georgia and Garrett Newson roll skill-related wants only, no matter how intensely their siblings interact with them. Tri had higher relationships with his aunts and uncles than with his mother for a good chunk of his childhood, and he's so fond of his Uncle Derek that Derek moved in, too, when Tri's mother got married, and the first night of his childhood Tri crawled into bed with him. Pearl Onions, Dove Hawkins, and Deborah Gavigan all have live-in grandparents spoiling them rotten. But not a single "play with Gramma" want ever rolls till they hit kid. :( I expect they only wrote a limited number of toddler wants to begin with and never expanded them.

[Roseblossom90]

If anybody does know where to find the mod where a father can figure out a child is not his, please send the link to me as well. With ACR running wil in my neighborhoods this would add some interesting drama to my little simmies' world. :lol:

[Darby]

Is putting a baby up for adoption possible?

The SimBlender has an option for putting kids up for adoption. Not sure about infants. Is it possible to adopt an infant, or is it toddler and up?

[M.M.A.A.]

What about gossiping? What if someone else other than the husband in Q saw them woohoo and went around and gossip about it?

[Peni Griffin]

Putting kids up for adoption is one thing; adopting the kids your spouse brings to a family is another.

The gossip will get around to the spouse, who technically will know it - but only as a rumor. There is no mechanism for the spouse to act on the rumor.

[Mrs,Spann09]

Then at least send me the link in a PM (interesteddd here).

I am too Can I pls. get sent that link????

[Helmasaur]

Count me as yet another interested in that hack.

So what about aliens? Do hey also treat parents that aren't theirs biologically as homewreckers?

[omglo]

The SimBlender has an option for putting kids up for adoption. Not sure about infants. Is it possible to adopt an infant, or is it toddler and up?Yes, you can use it to put an infant in the adoption pool, too.

[Orilon]

Count me as yet another interested in that hack.

So what about aliens? Do hey also treat parents that aren't theirs biologically as homewreckers?


As far as I can tell, no. Johnny Smith was already married to Ophelia when he was abducted by aliens. His daughter from his abduction has a very high relationship to Ophelia, so as far as I can tell his half-alien daughter doesn't consider Ophelia a home wrecker.

Ophelia doesn't roll wants for Carina, but they do have a high relationship from me making them interact in a positive way.

[lauratje86]

Those of you who asked about a link to the mod, I have PM'd you about it :-)

This turned in to an interesting thread!

[Peni Griffin]

No, because the PT has never acted as a parent to them and is not an individual in the game toward whom they can feel loyalty or resentment.

It would be interesting, and enlightening, to be able to sort through the code that caused Tri to be furious with his mother when he saw her canoodling with housemate Phoenix, and what reactions other possible combinations would have elicited. Here's the situation:

Tri was conceived in a photo booth and has never met his father, though they've been in the same room more than once. He actually came over the day Tri was born and kissed his wife in front of Tri's mother Beverly while Tri was being fed in the same room - presumably none of this registered with him. Beverly subsequently, while Tri was still an infant, dated unrelated housemate Phoenix, who had a crush on Beverly's sister Lora on which he had never acted. (I checked a box in SimPE just to make life more complicated). At some point in between playing sessions for this family, Lora and Phoenix got memories of kissing and falling in love with each other, but these were not acted on beyond that. While Tri was a toddler, Beverly also dated and got engaged to Jim, but one way or another never brought him home. During this period, Tri saw Beverly and Phoenix canoodling and got furious at them both; Lora then also caught them, but did not lose her love tags with Phoenix. Not long after, Jim married Beverly and moved her in with Tri and her brother Derek, and Tri and Jim made friends immediately.

Now, parse this: is Tri's anger at Beverly and Phoenix down to an unrealistic understanding of his aunt Lora's feelings toward Phoenix, or an unrealistic understanding of her engaged status? Presumably, if Lora had kissed Phoenix where Tri could see them he would have been furious with her, too, out of loyalty to his mother. But what will happen if/when Beverly kisses someone for whom none of her relatives has a romantic attachment - will he take it in stride or even approve, or will he be angry on Jim's behalf?

[Aegagropilon]

So what about aliens? Do hey also treat parents that aren't theirs biologically as homewreckers?

I know it's not exactly the same, but I've got an alien sim named Ellison who's a freelance pollination technician that carried her offspring instead of impregnating others. All but two of her children were conceived via alien technology (read: the Tombstone of L&D), and none of the children that weren't by her husband Matthew Howe react negatively when they see her interact romantically with him.

Interestingly enough, Matthew "knew" that the last two kids she had -- Gozer and Glozel, using genetic material extracted from the perpetually angry alien general Idun -- weren't biologically his, even if there was no memory/pop-up to reflect that. His initial STR/LTR for both of them was very low, especially for Glozel who inherited her genetic donor's bright yellow hair. For a while after Glozel was born, he would autonomously pick fights with any other adult sim he came across of Idun's species, because they had that same hair color. (And, randomization and irony being what it is, Glozel thinks that Matthew hung the moon; she had to learn all of her toddler skills from him -- she would only grouch and waste time when Ellison tried to -- even though it was Ellison that was rolling the wants to teach her things.)

[Simonut]

I will add my little two cents of words here on the "Getting Pregnant By Lover Not Husband" I can speak directly about this for I have had this happen in my game with one couple.
The husband of the Sims will know his wife is pregnant ( yes ) he can see that with his sim eyes, but in his memory panel it will "Not" show up as his very own child.
Instead the birth of the child will show up in the memory panel of the other sim ( the lover ) who got the sim wife pregnant. In my game the Sim husband was a better father than the real father of the child.

But why should the good for nothing lover get away with his responsibility to the child ? My motto is "He lay he pay." Therefore I make the good for nothing lover pay "Child Support" it comes out of his golden pocket every week on certain days. And go directly into the child household. For anyone who may be interest in this mod by creator Monique here is the link.

http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=163933 Be sure to read all her notes there this mod work very good. And it's perfect for those good for nothing playboys.

My words to the Sims ladies who are married keep your Sim butt home why did you get married in the first place ? :rofl: if you knew you was really a piece of trash. :blink:
Oh the husband will never be mad at the lover the only way he will get mad is if you let the wife and lover make out in front of him. One thing I do is let the child visit and call her real father so they can spend time together. After all he is the child father. :rolleyes:

[maxon]

Those of you who asked about a link to the mod, I have PM'd you about it :-)
When you say 'from an adult site' - do you mean the usual one? The one with the hospital mod for example?

I hadn't spotted that hack but then I've not been over for a while. Nice to know they are still modding TS2.

[lauratje86]

When you say 'from an adult site' - do you mean the usual one? The one with the hospital mod for example?

I hadn't spotted that hack but then I've not been over for a while. Nice to know they are still modding TS2.

Yup, I do :-) I think it's quite an old hack.

**EDIT** It's from 2010.

[sweetbaby160]

Those of you who asked about a link to the mod, I have PM'd you about it :-)

This turned in to an interesting thread!

if it isn't too much of a hassle, me too pls :)

[klapaucius]

Please could I have that link PM'd too?
Thank you! :)

[Issie]

lauratje86, linky for me too please, thanks! :)

[TychoH]

@lauratje86
will you PM me too please?

What bothers me is that they won't roll wants to do with any relatives except the parents. Georgia and Garrett Newson roll skill-related wants only, no matter how intensely their siblings interact with them. Tri had higher relationships with his aunts and uncles than with his mother for a good chunk of his childhood, and he's so fond of his Uncle Derek that Derek moved in, too, when Tri's mother got married, and the first night of his childhood Tri crawled into bed with him. Pearl Onions, Dove Hawkins, and Deborah Gavigan all have live-in grandparents spoiling them rotten. But not a single "play with Gramma" want ever rolls till they hit kid. :( I expect they only wrote a limited number of toddler wants to begin with and never expanded them.
Sometimes my toddlers, who have a really good relationship with someone else than their parents, are rolling random 'play with me'-want, like if they're saying 'I want everybody I know to play with me'.

[Peni Griffin]

Actually, it occurs to me that focusing the toddler wants on the parents may have been the designers' conscious decision, to model the parent-child bond and the sense most children who are separated from parents (orphans, children left with a relative from an early age while parent works, etc.) to feel something missing.

The trouble is, this isn't universal. If the surrogate parent is an adult and appears in the child's life seamlessly, like Teiji in Casper's life in Fivey's game, the child doesn't miss the merely biological parent even in theory; at least not till they hit adolescence and identity issues.

[julmoo]

I'd appreciate to have the link PM'd too if it isn't too much trouble for you.

Thanks for sending it <3

[MuletotheFoxxes]

On why kids throw fit if their mother acts romantically with someone other than their father it's the love flag.

See I had Kaylin and Don get together last time I played Pleasantview, then I had Kaylin cheat on him with Daniel. I got tired of the little girl throwing fits fast, so I went to Daniel's lot and had Kaylin catch him with Marysue. Her daughter stopped throwing fits about mom and Don.

I don't know if the fits would've resumed if they'd become friends again though, because my hard drive crashed first. But I doubt it, since in my rebuilt reversed gendered Strangetown the grunt kids didn't seem to mind when their mom, and resurected dad found another spouse and other lovers respectively after they became friends again. (Lyle got custody of Bunny and Tear after coming back from the dead.)

[auroraTerra]

Maybe the mother is cheating! I know once when I played Veronaville years ago. Juliette got pregnant...but it wasnt Romeo's child...it was Mercutios!!! Shocking much? :O

[soriya]

lol, sorry for bringing up an old thread but can i get the link to get the mod?\

*Edited: NVM, I found it. Sorry for the bother. :D

[b_C_Draygon]

Can I possibly have a PM link to the mod from someone, if possible? :)

[mirjamsim2love]

Isn't there a hack that makes it so that the spouse may work out that the baby isn't his (if his logic is high enough, or if he and his wife have never woohoo'd)? And also negatively affects the relationship between teens who become pregnant and their parents? Or was that for The Sims 3?

**EDIT** Never mind; there is and I found it - it's on an 18+ site so I won't link it here.....

Will you be so kind to pm me the link too?
It caught my curiosity but can't find online myself.

Edit: oops, I see this conversation was going on a while ago.
Well, íf you see it and still know where to find it, let me know. Thanks in advance.

[Fivey]

Will you be so kind to pm me the link too?
It caught my curiosity but can't find online myself.

Edit: oops, I see this conversation was going on a while ago.
Well, íf you see it and still know where to find it, let me know. Thanks in advance.

BackAlley Sims. The adult section, unless it's now on the Family Friendly site.

[mirjamsim2love]

BackAlley Sims. The adult section, unless it's now on the Family Friendly site.
Thanks. I will look there.

[ShadowsMystery]

Could someone PM me the link? I'm having trouble finding it.

[mirjamsim2love]

Me too. I can't find it. It would really help if we would know how the hack/mod is called. If that can't be posted here, understood, then I would really appreciate it if someone is willing to pm me the name. Thanks in advance.

[b_C_Draygon]

Thanks for letting me know which site the mod is on, Fivey! :) Found it now.