Lindsay Lohan

[shaedigga]

As you probably know, the breaking news is that LiLO has once again been charged with a DUI and possession of a narcotic. Big surprise.

The debate: Are celebs let off too easy? I think most would agree that they are, however, with rehab being the latest trend do you think that affects non-celebs in that rehab no longer means "I need help" it means "I don't want to go to jail.".

[pieridae]

Long before Lindsay was even a gleam in the Lohan's eyes, rehab for many already meant "I don't want to go to jail." That's how the process works.

1. I don't have a problem.
2. No, really, I don't have a problem.
3. They say I have a problem, but I don't. They lie.
4. I don't have a problem, but I don't want to go to jail, so I'll do the rehab.
5. Boy, these people in rehab have problems! But not me.
6. I'm done with rehab. Whew. I don't have a problem, but maybe I don't need to drink/smoke/pop whatever quite so much.
7. I got busted again. Maybe I have a problem. It's just not a bad problem.
8. I'm in rehab again. I'm a little more like these people than I thought. Just not as bad.
9. Outta rehab, doin' fine. I had a problem, but I know how to handle it now.
10. Ug. Busted again. Maybe I DO have a problem...

And on and on. The poor Lindsay's and Paris's and whomever else is on the cover of Star this week...they're just rich imitations of people already out there, struggling with their own issues and problems. I don't think celebrities have as much impact on society as they think they do. Trends come and go, but people will still struggle with drug and alcohol abuse.

[shaedigga]

Peridae, I completely agree. I feel like perhaps someone who is not a celebrity and may have truly made a mistake and could benefit from a rehabilitation program will be thrown in jail without the proper help that could've turned their lives around simply because rehab is no longer a place to get help. It's a place to avoid facing the consequences of your actions, which is odd because that's what you learn while you're in there. There is no doubt in my mind that LiLo needs rehab, but first she needs jail. People nowadays are going to rehab for things I didn't even know you could be cured of, such as being a racist/homophobe (Michael Richards/Isiah Washington). I mean really what does one learn at racial harmony rehab? It used to be that any celebrity that was in a program it was known they had a drug and/or alcohol problem, but now in cry baby america they quite possibly could've just told the lady at the bus stop to eff off. Instead of claiming they need help they should probably just admit "Listen, I've got a terrible personality. I'm ignorant. Buy my movies!"

Hope that made sense.

[Modestgurl88]

I don't see Lindsay Lohan getting off easily for this.After what they did to Paris which shocked most of us,I think she will do jail time.Sure celebritie get away from real jail time for being famous then again some places are really starting not care like California.I feel bad for celebrities that really want to go to rehab but are scared to for fear of being seen as doing it for a get out of jail card or attention.

[dramatic.]

I think rehab is a way for celeb's to sorta get a little slap on the wrist. Example: Lindsay Lohan. The reason why I think she checked in into rehab the time after her dui arrest i think? Is because she want's the people to think that she is trying to get help so when the court date comes the judge sees that she tried to get help so with that in consideration he gives her a less harsher sentence or not even a sentence maybe like community service or something. But I do not think she will get off easy ever since the Pairs thing I think celeb's will be treated fairly..well not fairly because Paris did in a way get some sort of special treatment but yeah.


I hope im making sense lol..

[Cinamun]

So.. 5 days out, and how many times in rehab? And your driving around with cocaine looking like this?

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4466/abqf7.jpg

Rehab isnt working, lets try LA county jail instead :blink:

Lindsay Lohan is a drug addict a hard-headed one at that. She needs a tough lesson and this time she just may get it. She was high on cocaine, drunk and speeding through a parking lot chasing another vehicle (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/24/lohan.arrest/index.html)with a blood alcohol limit almost double the legal limit with a little red nose like Rudolph.
She was being reckless and endangering the lives of others.

She'll post bail, but I doubt the charges will be dropped.

[shaedigga]

I agree with all of you and you've made better points than the idiots calling into YO! on E! this evening. They all felt bad for her! The onyl way that I can see feeling bad for her is that her mother, the one person that should be by her side and can help her through this, is too busy making press release to be a parent. Just like she did last time. I also think they aren't going to take it easy on her because when P. Hilt got sentenced people were saying that she was being made an example and the authorities said that was routine punishment and blah blah blah, so I think if anything they're going to be extra harsh on her 1. to prove celebs don't get special treatment. 2. to prove that P was not an example.

People need to realize that she could've killed someone!

[cary123]

I agree that she should be put under house arrest until she is rehabilitated. but nothing more for a small crime like cocaine usage. however take her drivers lincente away forever.

[davious]

Since when is being caught with cocaine a small crime?

[cary123]

It's a small crime in my opinion. I don't think we should have server penalty's for drug crimes thats all.

[Modestgurl88]

It's a small crime in my opinion. I don't think we should have server penalty's for drug crimes thats all.
I agree. I think it's sad that people caught with drugs do more time than alot of rapists and people who commit domestic violence

[dramatic.]

I agree. I think it's sad that people caught with drugs do more time than alot of rapists and people who commit domestic violence
I really never thought of it that way but that really is true..

[davious]

and how many violent robberies occur because a drug addict needed more money to support his or her habit? How many of those harmless drug addicts kill people to steal their money so they can have another days worth of cocaine...How many people would still be alive today, but for drugs?

[cary123]

its called house arrset. I still think they should be punished but not to far.

[dramatic.]

and how many violent robberies occur because a drug addict needed more money to support his or her habit? How many of those harmless drug addicts kill people to steal their money so they can have another days worth of cocaine...How many people would still be alive today, but for drugs?
Well if you think about it that is true lol im like switching sides. But you really do have a point.

[nixie_SC]

No one should be treated differently where a crime is involve, a crime, is a crime, is a crime, no matter who commits it, they get the appropriate punishment, and as the "regular citizens" that we are, we need to not get too into "celebrity watch" watch their movie, listen to their songs, go to concert, that's it. what they do with their life need to be separated. Its not a human circus/reality show.

I blame the media, and lucky brainless actors.

[RubyAmbition]

She only had cocaine for sure. It is not known if she was high. I believe everyone makes mistakes, everyone falls off the wagon at least once. And not everyone has the stress of the media following them that may cause a relapse!

[BusterBrown]

I know this is probably off subject a bit, but I think that stars get waaay too much attention for junk like this. Sometimes I feel like it's all just a publicity stunt. For example, all you US of A citizens probably didn't hear much about the rather important speech our windbag- er, president made recently (must not say degrading things about Bush. must not say degrading things...) about al queda (spelling?) because Lindsey Lohan is on every single channel and news program. It's just irritating to me, because it seems like stars are in and out of rehab as often as we normal people go to the grocery store. It just shouldn't get so much attention. (This is especially irritating because we all just got over all the Paris Hilton jail-time thing, and now it's Lohan this and Lohan that... grr! It's just so stupid!!)

Anyway, back on subject. I do think stars get off easy, just because they're famous. I mean, Lohan just turned 21 not too long ago, but we ALL know she's been drinking much longer than that, and yet, no one ever said anything! Normal underage drinkers would get in serious hot water for that! Stars should have to deal with the same consequences as everyone else. No exceptions.

[RubyAmbition]

I totally agree! We all USA peeps remember when Martha went to prison? If a guy had done that, would he have gone to jail?? More than likely not...Anyway, back to the subject! Lindsay has been under so much scrutiny since she turned 18. Why didn't her mom do anything? Oh that's right, she's like her daughter!!! When I saw the mug shot, I thought it was Dina Lohan!

[breakage]

They found cocaine on her but it hasn't been released yet if she had actually -had- some or if it had just been in her pocket. The legal limit in CA is 0.08 and I believe she was 0.13.

Anyway, back to the point, it saddens me this is happening because I've been a huge fan of Lindsay since The Parent Trap and Mean Girls. I still want to see her movie that comes out Friday. I think she's extremely talented and she's throwing it all away. I can only hope she'll wake up and grow out of it much like Drew Barrymore did - Drew was doing drugs and drinking at age 12.

But further more - I do agree stars get let off easier than 'real' people, mostly because of the added stress of their lives, people tend to write them off. And before I get jumped on, their lives ARE more stressful. Sure they make millions, but some movies can be very hard to do, not to mention the added pressure of if their movie or record will flop or be a hit, not to mention having a camera in your face 24/7. It's no wonder child actresses and actors like Lindsay, Britney, and Drew turn to other methods.

But I do hope she goes to jail, despite being a fan. I've yet to see if it shook Paris awake but I can only hope Lindsay snaps out of this and realizes she's throwing her life away for now reason.

[RubyAmbition]

Lindsay is a veryy talented actress. And she is throwing it all away. A slap on the wrist won't help! They might just go and do it some more...It should be more like a couple hundred slaps on the wrist!

[shaedigga]

She only had cocaine for sure. It is not known if she was high. I believe everyone makes mistakes, everyone falls off the wagon at least once. And not everyone has the stress of the media following them that may cause a relapse!


I'm not upset that she drank or really even that she was in possession of coke. I do drink but getting geeked isn't my style. Her choice to drink was her choice. She's of age and she should not be looked down upon for falling off the wagon. THAT SAID, she did not go to rehab the first time to get better. She went to avoid jail time. You cannot tell me that you would attend a rehab program for 45 days and work your behind off to stop drinking/drugging and then decide that going to Vegas not even 3 days after you get home is a good idea! If I'm on a diet I'm not going to hang around a buffet! In addition to that, once your behavior can literally end the lives of those around you it's no longer your decision or a mistake. How can anyone defend that? Twice in 6 months she was caught drinking and driving (once after an accident after which she fled the scene) and with a narcotic and you think the punishment should be to stay in her million dollar estate where she can continue these activities to her hearts content? She's made it quite clear that she has no regard for the law, hasn't learned a thing about consequences of her actions and has no desire to change. You can't put this on the media. First of all the media exists and covers these stories because people (such as you and I) will discuss it. Second of all if the media is the enemy you tell me why Dina's first step was to issue a press release. Your daughter is falling apart and your first step is to call The Insider? Give me a break! As someone who is VERY close with 4 recovering coke addicts, one of which is family, there is no such thing as "just coke". What if she had killed someone? Would we blame it on the media, say it's just coke or everyone makes mistakes then? People don't accept the consequences if no one makes them accept them. Someone is going to die before people realize what they should've done. She's going to kill someone on one of her drunken joyrides or sadly she's just going to waste away until she herself dies.

And your (general) personal opinion on the drug laws have absolutely nothing to do with this. It's illegal. Maybe one day it won't be but right now it is and she broke it.

[Shenanigans_SC]

It's just irritating to me, because it seems like stars are in and out of rehab as often as we normal people go to the grocery store.
Ha ha! That cracked me up! I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do a quick grocery run without thinking about that.

I loved Lindsey in the parent trap. I remember watching a "making of" feature and thinking to myself I wanted to keep an eye on that one. It is truly saddening how things are turning out for her.

It is my opinion that celebs have gotten used to the "the whole world revolves around me" mentality. It's an easy thing to slip into being rich, famous and wanted. With that type of thinking comes "I shouldn't have to follow the rules, I'm above that!" right on it's heels.

I think Paris Hilton being made an 'example' of has come far too late. This type of thing has been going on seemingly forever. The officials (whoever they may be) will have to set a whole lot more 'examples' before the Hollywood actors wake up and smell the coffee. I sure hope they're up for it. Just because they're famous doesn't mean they're above the law. They should be treated like Joe Schmoe. You do the crime, you do the time.

And my thoughts on the whole possession thing... I've never heard of anyone who would buy cocaine and not use it. I mean really, do you buy it as a fashion accessory or what?

[RubyAmbition]

And this is just what Dina wanted. People chatting about it online. She only wants the publicity, and that's not good. Lindsay can drink all she wants, but none of those celebrities can get high! And a lot of them do, with everyone else not caring! EDIT: Just read about the cocaine thing! Maybe...Just listen to next year's fashion shows...*Dream-like* Featuring the new line...Trashed! Cocaine handbags, ankle braclets and more! LOL!

[Modestgurl88]

and how many violent robberies occur because a drug addict needed more money to support his or her habit? How many of those harmless drug addicts kill people to steal their money so they can have another days worth of cocaine...How many people would still be alive today, but for drugs?
That's totally different .I'm talking about people who don't steal or murder anyone and smoke pot a few weekends, not saying I agree with it but what you described is an extreme situation and rare.I just don't see someone doing drugs and not disturbing anyone as being a huge crime like murder or rape especially someone smoking pot.Back on topic, I do at times think celebrites get off easily when it comes to breaking the law but at the same time I don't think we should forget that breaking an addiction isn't easy.Think about Robert Downey jr., it took many years for him to clean up his act including time in jail and rehab.

[shaedigga]

That's totally different .I'm talking about people who don't steal or murder anyone and smoke pot a few weekends, not saying I agree with it but what you described is an extreme situation and rare.I just don't see someone doing drugs and not disturbing anyone as being a huge crime like murder or rape especially someone smoking pot.Back on topic, I do at times think celebrites get off easily when it comes to breaking the law but at the same time I don't think we should forget that breaking an addiction isn't easy.Think about Robert Downey jr., it took many years for him to clean up his act including time in jail and rehab.


An extreme and rare situation?? Where do you live? Do you watch the news? Almost 1/4 of federal inmates are there because of drug related crimes. That's only federal, which doesn't include your county and state jails and that's only people that got caught! I wouldn't call that rare.

[Modestgurl88]

An extreme and rare situation?? Where do you live? Do you watch the news? Almost 1/4 of federal inmates are there because of drug related crimes. That's only federal, which doesn't include your county and state jails and that's only people that got caught! I wouldn't call that rare.
My point is that someone using drugs in their home,. not stealing or killing anyone isn't that big of a crime to me.What I'm thinking about is people who smoke pot or something not.People who do those crimes you are talking about are the ones usually doing the real hardcore drugs.If you think about it more people are being killed from drunk drivers than people involved with drugs.

[davious]

ummm, cocaine IS a hardcore drug. She wasn't busted (this time) for pot possession, she was busted for cocaine.

[Cinamun]

Why does everyone keep bringing up rape, murder and stealing? What does have to do with this? Lindsay Lohan was caught with cocaine in her possession, an extremely red and scarred nose (see mugshot on previous page), she had almost double the legal limit of alcohol in her system while chasing her former personal assistant through a parking lot because the assistant quit.

And the kicker is, after all of that, she says "I'm Innocent" :blink:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/25/people.lindsay.lohan.ap/index.html

Saying "I did not do drugs, they're not mine." But when asked if she was transporting the drugs FOUND IN HER POCKET she says no? So the drugs just magically appeared...

Cocaine IS a hardcore drug and the amount found on Lohan is worth a big fat FELONY (see link above). I dont see what the problem is.

I can understand the sympathy about addiction but when you're committing crimes because of it, going to rehab more than folks go to the grocery store as someone so eloquently mentioned, you need to answer for yourself.

[cary123]

I totally agree! We all USA peeps remember when Martha went to prison? If a guy had done that, would he have gone to jail?? More than likely not...Anyway, back to the subject! Lindsay has been under so much scrutiny since she turned 18. Why didn't her mom do anything? Oh that's right, she's like her daughter!!! When I saw the mug shot, I thought it was Dina Lohan!
I agree with that, though girls need more rehabitation for drugs, drugs have a bigger affect on girls therefor a bigger addiction.

[shaedigga]

My point is that someone using drugs in their home,. not stealing or killing anyone isn't that big of a crime to me.What I'm thinking about is people who smoke pot or something not.People who do those crimes you are talking about are the ones usually doing the real hardcore drugs.If you think about it more people are being killed from drunk drivers than people involved with drugs.


It wasn't pot and she wasn't in her home and she was drunk driving. Every action that you put into a negative light was committed by her...twice.

As far as the comment about girls needing more rehabilitation than men and drugs having a bigger affect therefor a bigger addiction, I would love to know where this information came from.

[Rabid]

I feel kind of sorry for her. There's nothing wrong with occasional drinking, but she's obviously gone off the deep end into alcoholism. I think she should be punished just as any common citizen would be for getting a DUI and being caught possessing illegal drug substances- her celebrity status does not make her any different than any other criminal, and it shouldn't make her punishment different. I half-wonder if the judge and jury will be more bent on sending her to jail to prove to the American public that celebities (*cough* Paris Hilton) don't get special treatment and that they're not above the law. No matter the punishment, I sincerely hope she's able to straighten herself out for the good of herself and those around her. You can only delude yourself with rehab for so long.

[Modestgurl88]

ummm, cocaine IS a hardcore drug. She wasn't busted (this time) for pot possession, she was busted for cocaine.
I know and I agree.I'm just making clear what I'm talking about.She is now claiming it's not her drugs which is probably a lie but then again if she is hanging out with the same people she did beforehand, it maybe possible. I hope she does do time cause I have little pity for people who do DUI. Too many people are killed by drunk drivers.

[HCAC]

I don't know her family situation but she's from my part of the country and sadly, her father has issues so maybe the whole family is a bit screwy? The dad was on Larry King last night but I think he's a publicity seeker (who was also in jail for awhile but I am not sure for what).

Lindsay was such cute. talented kid (think of The Parent Trap) but she seems to be caught up in something bad (drugs/body image problems/Hollyweird).

I don't know about drugs personally but I am sure once you're hooked it's hard to get off them and when you have the press dogging you, it's also extra difficult.

[Wintermute]

Her problems are no different from someone in the same situation, but without the fame. Who goes into rehab or what is done while he/she is in rehab shouldn't be made known to the public--AA is "Anonymous" for a reason.

But for some reason, since they're celebs, everything they do/think/say should be revealed for the public to spit at, scorn, laugh at, mock, ridicule, and criticize. Rehab won't work for Lindsay unless she's taken out of the spotlight--but we all know that's impossible. It will go on, because now she wants attention. If the circumstances and the environment don't change, her behavior won't change.

Vicious cycle.

[TWills23]

She needs to go through this like any other person would have to. Cocaine is a very serious drug, with a very serious consequence. Rehab isn't punishment. Especially the rehab she's in, hell it's more like a spa. She needs to be punished for her actions, then maybe she'll learn a lesson.

[bunnylita]

If she's an addict, and it's seeming more and more likely that she is, a stint in jail won't fix her. Remember Robery Downey, Jr.? He was in and out of jail for years before he cleaned himself up. It's not about learning a lesson, it's about wanting to quit. And even then, relapse is still a possibility. She'll have to keep trying and trying to quit, and even then, it's still going to be a battle. I hope she cleans herself up. She's a great actress.

[ElektraNatchios33]

She's supossed to be a halfway decent role model. But she was charged w/

1. possession of coke/transporting illegal goods
2. Possible driving w/ drugs in system
3. Driving while intoxicated
4. Driving w/ suspended licence

In one arrest. What a role model she is. I never liked her.

[GJPrentice]

Lindsay Lohan was never talented in my eyes. Compare her talents to the likes of Julia Roberts, AL Pacino, Robert De Niro and Nicole Kidman... to me she was just another teen poppy little brat who starred in shite movies. COme on guys... Herbie Fully Loaded? Ha!

Anyway, I agree that celebrities do get off easy. I'm sure that if a regular person was driving around with that much cocaine, they'd be done for jail time...

[MireilleContesse]

If she's an addict, and it's seeming more and more likely that she is, a stint in jail won't fix her. Remember Robery Downey, Jr.? He was in and out of jail for years before he cleaned himself up. It's not about learning a lesson, it's about wanting to quit. And even then, relapse is still a possibility. She'll have to keep trying and trying to quit, and even then, it's still going to be a battle. I hope she cleans herself up. She's a great actress.

Jail is not going to be about fixing her drug problem. It would be about punishment for breaking laws. Rehab should be something she does in addition to jail. And I don't mean Promises - which so far, is not working out so well for its celebrity clientele.

She shouldn't be allowed to use drug or alcohol addiction as an excuse to behave wrecklessly behind the wheel of a tonnage of weaponry. Considering the number of accidents she has been it, it's only a matter of time before she kills herself or someone else. That person should not have to suffer or die because Lindsay was cute in The Parent Trap and therefore should not have to do time to protect the safety of the public, or because she con't control her drinking/drug use. Those excuses end where someone else's life and rights begin.

[Paper.Pal::.]

I think her acting talent peaked...in the parent trap.

Up until a year after, I thought she was two people.

[bunnylita]

Jail is not going to be about fixing her drug problem. It would be about punishment for breaking laws. Rehab should be something she does in addition to jail. And I don't mean Promises - which so far, is not working out so well for its celebrity clientele.

She shouldn't be allowed to use drug or alcohol addiction as an excuse to behave wrecklessly behind the wheel of a tonnage of weaponry. Considering the number of accidents she has been it, it's only a matter of time before she kills herself or someone else. That person should not have to suffer or die because Lindsay was cute in The Parent Trap and therefore should not have to do time to protect the safety of the public, or because she con't control her drinking/drug use. Those excuses end where someone else's life and rights begin.

I wasn't saying that she shouldn't go to jail, I'm just saying that it won't teach her a lesson. She'll come out and she could do it all over again because she's a drug addict.

[Modestgurl88]

I wasn't saying that she shouldn't go to jail, I'm just saying that it won't teach her a lesson. She'll come out and she could do it all over again because she's a drug addict.
In order for her to really become better ,she would have to admit ...really admit she has a problem and really get help (not using the rehab center as a vaction like she did last time) and probably take some time off from her career.Also, getting some new group of friends. I agree she should do jail time because I'm hoping that some time in jail will scare the heck out of her and she will change her ways. Sometimes jail is good for that.If it's bad for only a few months,imagine being there for years :naughty:

[-Starbuck-_SC]

Unfortunately jail isn't as "reforming" as it's suppose to be. Anybody using drugs needs to stop because -they want to-, otherwise, no program, jail time, etc is going to stop them. They'll come right out and do it again if they really want to. Happens all the time. I've always liked Lindsay Lohan. She was such a positive influence. But, she's human like the rest of us. Hopefully, she'll soon realize she needs to stop and will honestly seek some help. The other road only leads to destruction. :(

[pieridae]

As Robin Willians said on Larry King (I'm paraphrasing, I don't remember the exact quote):

She came out of rehab the first time and thought it was a good idea for a vodka company to sponsor her 21st birthday party. She's not ready (to quit).

[Stormy_SC]

As Robin Willians said on Larry King (I'm paraphrasing, I don't remember the exact quote):

She came out of rehab the first time and thought it was a good idea for a vodka company to sponsor her 21st birthday party. She's not ready (to quit).

I thought she spent her 21st birthday at home with friends and family? It was on the news and they had a video of her taking pictures of the paparazzis and everything.

[pieridae]

I thought she spent her 21st birthday at home with friends and family? It was on the news and they had a video of her taking pictures of the paparazzis and everything.

She cancelled her Vegas birthday bash at the last minute, but she did reportedly want one and Svedka vodka was lined up to sponsor : link 1 (http://celebscrash.blogspot.com/2007/05/lindsay-lohans-21st-birthday-to-be.html) link 2 (http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/2007/05/23/lindsay-lohan-has-vodka-for-her-birthday/)

[shaedigga]

She cancelled her Vegas birthday bash at the last minute, but she did reportedly want one and Svedka vodka was lined up to sponsor : link 1 (http://celebscrash.blogspot.com/2007/05/lindsay-lohans-21st-birthday-to-be.html) link 2 (http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/2007/05/23/lindsay-lohan-has-vodka-for-her-birthday/)


Correct. Svedka pulled on sponsorship after her first arrest though. She did spend her actuall birthday with her family but within the next day or 2 was in Vegas. So pretty much the big drunken bash she had planned went on as scheduled just a few days later.

[sesshomarusgirlplayer]

we, the citzens, allow the clebs to act like this because we treat them like king and queens. making them r roll models, are hores. but the law should be put down on them and put down on them hard. if we have to go jail for drug use then they should too and for the same amount of time as we would. but as we all see it just doesnt happen.

[ElZorro]

The debate: Are celebs let off too easy?

I am sorry if this sounds cynical, but the primary purpose of government is to protect the property of the wealthy from the poor.

There have always been different standards of justice for the rich and the poor and there probably always will be.