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Testers Wanted: Harder Celebrity Difficulty & More (Late Night)

by HystericalParoxysm Posted 4th Nov 2010 at 12:29 PM - Updated 13th Sep 2012 at 8:09 AM by HystericalParoxysm
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What does this do?

This is a a mod designed to change the difficulty for sims to become celebrities.

As the same XML file controls the "disgraceful actions" that are applied to celebrities, this mod also has changes for those actions.

Please read the text below carefully regarding the different flavours, and choose the flavour that best suits your play style.

Download one flavour and ONLY one flavour! These files are NOT mix and match - you can only have ONE! You will need to choose which flavour suits you for celebrity threshhold as well as falsely accused chance.

This will not change current celebrity levels! Any existing celebrity sims will retain their celeb levels. This will only change the ease of raising celebrity level in future.

This mod will not affect sims that are not currently being played - only your currently played sims in your active family will be affected by this mod. If there is story progression that is involved in sims changing celeb status without being played, I think that's controlled by some other data. But if you'd like to be able to chat with a celeb without suddenly becoming one yourself too, this will help.

Updated:

You may have noticed this thread missing temporarily. After some more extensive testing and feedback, I've changed the initial celeb level threshhold a bit. This should prevent the widespread celebrity-ism from spreading across your playable sims like a virus.

Nothing was really "wrong" with the previous version besides it not working as well as it needed to to prevent the initial celeb level.

I've also kind of overhauled the thresholds, as the real problem with celebs is becoming one in the first place too easily. Therefore, there are now fewer flavours, but they're better and more logically tuned to increase the difficulty.


Patch Compatability:

This mod should work with any patch version from 1.33-1.38. No updates needed for 1.38.


Celebrity Level Thresholds

The general perception seems to be that it is WAY too easy to become a celebrity! It seems to take very little effort to become a middle-level celebrity (though you may have to work at it to get to 5 stars). Therefore, all the different flavours of this mod increase the time and effort it will take to become a celebrity. There is no "become a celebrity easier" flavour - it's already too easy!

All flavours increase the initial difficulty to become a celebrity, based on the point value for specific actions (becoming friends is 1000, good friends is 500, fiancee is 2000, and so on - these values I haven't changed). This should keep your playable sims from becoming celebs unless you really intend them to be.

Celebrity Level Threshhold Flavours

For these threshholds, it's to max out that level - so if you get all the points for level 0, you get 1 celeb star. If you get all the points for level 5, then you max your star points entirely.
  • Default: Difficulty to become a celebrity is unchanged - but you can still get the false accusation options/disgraceful actions stuffs.
    0: 100
    1: 1500
    2: 2000
    3: 4000
    4: 6000
    5: 10000
  • Low Difficulty: Overall challenge isn't much higher than default, but it should be harder to become a celebrity on accident.
    0: 2000
    1: 3000
    2: 4000
    3: 5000
    4: 7000
    5: 10000
  • Medium Difficulty: A little bit more difficult, but still nothing too taxing.
    0: 3000
    1: 4500
    2: 6000
    3: 8000
    4: 10000
    5: 15000
  • High Difficulty: Should be quite challenging to get to a high celeb level - even getting that first star should take being friends with several celebs.
    0: 4000
    1: 5500
    2: 7000
    3: 10000
    4: 15000
    5: 20000
  • Ultra Difficulty: Very challenging indeed, and will take serious dedication and a buttload of friends/lovers to become a high-level celebrity.
    0: 5000
    1: 7000
    2: 10000
    3: 15000
    4: 20000
    5: 25000


Disgraceful Actions

There are certain actions, that, if your sim is caught doing them, are considered "disgraceful" and get your sim a bad moodlet and bad reactions from other sims. By default, the possible disgraceful actions are:
  • Fighting in public
  • Cheating
  • Divorce
  • Job setback
  • Caught rummaging
  • Arrested
  • Child out of marriage
  • Caught sneaking into club
  • Detonating smashing (?)
  • Woohoo in public
  • Woohoo with occult
  • Bite someone in public
  • Get repossessed
  • Child taken
  • Peeing Self
  • Passing Out
  • Falsely accused

Many have expressed dismay at some of these actions being considered "disgraceful." Especially considering it's not just tabloid reports, but, "No, I know what you did, someone like YOU isn't getting in here!" type stuff from bouncers.

With the games having focused on a rather accepting view of "alternative lifestyles," certain items on the list seem very odd. Therefore, the following "disgraceful actions" have had their "chance" parameter set to 0. This -should- disable these actions as being disgraceful.

Disabled disgraceful actions:
  • Divorce
  • Child out of marriage
  • Woohoo with occult
  • Bite someone in public

ALL flavours, regardless of level thresholds (difficulty) have these actions disabled. There is also a version with default difficulty, and these actions disabled, if you're happy with how hard it is to become a celeb, but don't like that these things are considered disgraceful.


Falsely Accused Chance

Additionally, there are flavours of this mod which adjust the chance of being falsely accused - you can either choose the default chance, or lowered chances (it seems to happen really frequently!).

False accusation flavours (and their tuned values) are:
  • Default: 1
  • Half Default: 0.5
  • 20%: 0.2



Conflicts?

As this is an XML tuning mod, it will not conflict with any other mods unless they also modify the Celebrity XML. However, it is possible there are other mods that modify these things, or other parts of the Celebrity XML that I did not change. The following are things changed by the Celebrity XML:
  • Celebrity level thresholds
  • Disgraceful actions
  • Falsely accused chance
  • Celebrity discounts and freebies
  • Celebrity gifts

So, for example, if you find a mod that increases the chance of celebs getting freebies, it WILL conflict with this mod because it would change the same XML, even though I left those values the default.


Want another version?

It's super easy to modify the values to suit your own tastes! Just open any one of my files in S3PE, select the single XML file inside, and click Edit. Notepad will open with the file, and you can change the values as you want. Save, close Notepad, reload the file in S3PE, and save. Tada - custom modded XML!

Additional Credits:
Thanks to Delphy, Inge, Peter, and your mom.
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
CelebrityMod-DefDiff-DefFA-DDAOnly_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions Only 4.0 KB 1,597 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-DefDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - Half Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 649 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-DefDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,617 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,108 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 821 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,038 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 3,236 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,048 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,026 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,381 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,686 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,162 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,981 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,152 6th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 5,000 6th Nov 2010
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
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#26 Old 5th Nov 2010 at 1:40 AM
This is great, to be honest I was suprised at how fast I was able to get to mid level within an hour of playing before, now I have to struggle. I just wish that the game came with a little switch that you could flip to just turn off celebrity gain all together because to be rather honest, after a couple of days I usualy end up with a Seraglio, what with being a complete man-ho, pfft to collecting metals, gems, insects and butterflies! gimme wimmin! ... ahem as I was saying, it's very nice to be able to play now without everybody jeering me.
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#27 Old 5th Nov 2010 at 3:16 AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I accidentally (yes, accidentally) made my new Legacy founder a celebrity because one of her coworker/friends was also a celebrity and so was the man I wanted her to marry. Then, after marrying him, she got to 3 star status (??????). I never meant for her to be a celebrity in the first place - WAY too easy! I'm so glad someone made a mod for this!
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#28 Old 5th Nov 2010 at 3:30 AM
Totally read my mind. I think I have half the freaking neighborhood with some sort of star status due to casual contact alone.
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#29 Old 5th Nov 2010 at 7:43 AM
Jarah147 - It's not just tabloid-type disgrace though. Other sims react negatively to your sim when they're disgraced. They refuse to let them into clubs or give them discounts, and the text in the little popups for it is quite rude and judgmental.

eduardog3000 - There's a word called "please" that helps a lot. I don't do requests, and I -sure- don't do commands. But I already explained how you can change the settings to your liking, by opening the file in s3pe. You're welcome to make your own easier celeb level mod, but I have no desire to make one, as I think it's already way too easy.

kessia189 - Hmm, I'll try messing with that a bit more - thanks for the info.
Lab Assistant
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#30 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 1:19 AM
Really like the higher threshold for becoming a celeb! I thought it was way too easy also.
I wish there was a version that doesn't have the disgraced items disabled. I'm not a modder and don't have S3PE. Not everyone has the tallent which is why modders should be highly respected for their work.
Test Subject
#31 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 1:17 AM
Thank you for the mod. One question, maybe I misunderstand how to become a celebrity, but in my game anyone who uses 'greet celebrity' immediately gets a star, whether they follow up and try to impress them or not. As a result just about my entire town are celebrities. Is this supposed to happen?
Test Subject
#32 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 2:12 AM
@sheep_plushi
There are many ways to gain celebrity points, the majority of which involve interacting with other celebrities. Things like trying to impress one, befriending one, becoming BFF's, etc, etc all grant various amounts of points. By default you only need 100 points to get to level 1 celebrity, which frankly is extremely low and very easily managed, accidentally or otherwise.

Just for reference, attempting to impress a celebrity grants an average of about 50 points (depending on job level/skill level/wealth), befriending grants 1000 points and so does becoming BFF's).

My only guess for why getting to level 1 is so easy is that EA missed off a zero and meant the requirement to be 1000.
Lab Assistant
#33 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 3:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
eduardog3000 - There's a word called "please" that helps a lot. I don't do requests, and I -sure- don't do commands. But I already explained how you can change the settings to your liking, by opening the file in s3pe. You're welcome to make your own easier celeb level mod, but I have no desire to make one, as I think it's already way too easy.


Umm.. I wasn't trying to be demanding, most of the time i do put "can you" or "please can you" in front of requests, i just forgot, sorry, no need to get all angry about it.

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#34 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 11:03 AM
sheep_plushi - Download one of the updated difficulty ones and that won't happen. I'm an idiot and was using existing sims to test with, so the first levels seemed to be working fine, but weren't - now they're fixed.
Test Subject
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#35 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 1:52 PM
and it was already so hard for me -.-
lol nvm great mod!
Lab Assistant
#36 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 2:47 PM
Can I make a request please ? Because while I want to use your highest difficulty mod so that the vast majority of the neighbourhood DON'T become celebrities it would be nice to have an object or something that you could set instant celebrity levels or something for genuine celebrities downloaded from here ( or other places ) so that REAL celebrities can be set at their real celebrity levels ( ie if someone downloaded . say , a Brad Pitt or Madonna or something they could instantly set them to level 5 without having to play for a lifetime as each one of them when you really just want them as neighbourhood NPCs . It would make the game much more authentic because an object that could do that would make your real celebs the celebs they should be while the rest of the population wouldn't be . Without your mod celebrity status is kinda defunct because everyone becomes a celebrity of some sort , but with some sort of object combined with your highest difficulty mod you could have a realistic neighbourhhood of mainly general neighbourhood sims combined with a small selection in the ' hills ' of real life celebs . I say an object rather than a hack for the instant celebritism because then it could be combined with the ultra difficulty hack in place for the rest of the neighbourhood just so you could set your real life celeb NPCs ( one's you dont want to play as or have time to play as ) their real status . Do you think you could make an object that adds celebrity levels or points like that please , or do you know if it's possible to do so with the testing cheats ?
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#37 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 2:56 PM
Bruce Banner - I don't take requests, and have NO idea how to do that kind of thing. You might try asking in the Where Can I Find forum (or look for existing threads asking for celeb mods there).

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

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Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Lab Assistant
#38 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 4:10 PM
Ok , no probs . Thanks for replying anyway
Test Subject
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#39 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 4:45 PM
HP TY for the fast reply. Just in time to save my entire neighborhood from being paparazzi stalked lol.
Test Subject
#40 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 4:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Banner
..it would be nice to have an object or something that you could set instant celebrity levels or something for genuine celebrities downloaded from here ( or other places ) so that REAL celebrities can be set at their real celebrity levels ( ie if someone downloaded . say , a Brad Pitt or Madonna or something they could instantly set them to level 5 without having to play for a lifetime..
I've recently found that with twallan's DebugEnabler, it's possible to set any celebrity level just by clicking on a sim you can set any level (most likely on any sim, not necessarily on active one).
I think this is great addition to this mod, because my sim is already celebrity and I do not want him to be one, at least so easily the way EA has made it.
Lab Assistant
#41 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 6:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizork
I've recently found that with twallan's DebugEnabler, it's possible to set any celebrity level just by clicking on a sim you can set any level (most likely on any sim, not necessarily on active one).
I think this is great addition to this mod, because my sim is already celebrity and I do not want him to be one, at least so easily the way EA has made it.


Thanks for that info rizork . Cheers . That's exactly what I'm after .
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#42 Old 7th Nov 2010 at 7:33 PM
OMG! Thank you i hated being a celeb 0.e
Test Subject
#43 Old 8th Nov 2010 at 12:07 AM
I was exited when I saw this and it turns out its to make it HARDER!!?? WTF!! I got late night on the day it came out and my sim is only level 3! I play every day! So plz make a EASY one! Be reasonable... god....
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#44 Old 8th Nov 2010 at 5:57 AM
This is awesome, thanks

Has anyone ever noticed that children who come from celebrity parents automatically become 2-star celebs? I'm still undecided on whether I like this or not. I guess it could be like a Tom+Kat=Suri situation but I do like the challenge of raising a kid from scratch and reaching the levels myself.

Perhaps someone could come up with a mod that gives you the option... *hint hint*
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#45 Old 8th Nov 2010 at 7:25 AM
bobobobob - Sorry, but no. I don't see any need for it as I think it's WAY too easy! You could always make one yourself though - it's really not hard to open up the file in S3PE and modify the values.

Renbexcca - This should help with that some, especially if you choose one of the harder versions. Not sure off the top of my head the point value for being the child of a celeb but as long as you make sure to not let the child become friends with his/her parents, you should be able to avoid celeb-ism with Hard or Ultra until they're grown up, I think.

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Lab Assistant
#46 Old 8th Nov 2010 at 5:05 PM
Bobobobob - Check out rizork's post where he replied to me . If you install this mod and twallan's debug enabler you can have the best of both worlds ( ie . your whole neighbourhood is kept from being a neighbourhood full of celebs while the sims you choose to be celebs can easily be done so via an option in the debug enabler . As rizork mentioned this option works great in tandem with this mod because you can have a select few celebs ( of your own choosing if you wish ) while the rest of your neighbourhood aren't celebs , making the celeb/non-celeb balance much more realistic . Like HP says it's easy already to make the neighbourhood celebs and you don't really want an easier cleb mod otherwise your whole neighbourhood would end up as celebs and then what's the point of that . The whole point of having celebs is that the rest of the neighbourhood ARE'NT celebs
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#47 Old 8th Nov 2010 at 9:59 PM
Thanks for making this. The celeb thing in LN reminds me of the pirate's song in TS2. Spreading, and spreading, etc. Thanks again!
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#48 Old 10th Nov 2010 at 6:15 PM
Hi HystericalParoxysm i am is Brazilian and my english don't is good
but can you make a mod that just the "woo hoo in ocultism" and "Bite someone in public" Disgraceful Actions are disabled? Because i think that other two is good. Please do it: Medium Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions(just "woo hoo in ocultism" and "Bite someone in public", the Divorce and Child out of marriage are enable from Disgraceful Actions)
If you don't understand who i typed coment and i will simplify this.
Thank you for everything
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#49 Old 10th Nov 2010 at 6:22 PM
lonardqwe - Sorry, but I don't take requests - and any version of the mod I do (if I were to do any more) would have those disabled. It's a matter of my own personal morality - I don't find those actions disgraceful, so they are disabled, and I would feel rather icky and wrong releasing a mod that makes them disgraceful. XML tuning modding is pretty darn easy, and it would be quite simple to open up the mod and change the value for the ones you want to re-enable to 0.75 or 0.5

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Test Subject
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#50 Old 10th Nov 2010 at 9:13 PM
Ok, thank
But how program I use to open the mod?
tomorrow I will buy my Sims 3 Late Night and i will use your mod
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