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Testers Wanted: Harder Celebrity Difficulty & More (Late Night)

by HystericalParoxysm Posted 4th Nov 2010 at 1:29 PM - Updated 13th Sep 2012 at 9:09 AM by HystericalParoxysm
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What does this do?

This is a a mod designed to change the difficulty for sims to become celebrities.

As the same XML file controls the "disgraceful actions" that are applied to celebrities, this mod also has changes for those actions.

Please read the text below carefully regarding the different flavours, and choose the flavour that best suits your play style.

Download one flavour and ONLY one flavour! These files are NOT mix and match - you can only have ONE! You will need to choose which flavour suits you for celebrity threshhold as well as falsely accused chance.

This will not change current celebrity levels! Any existing celebrity sims will retain their celeb levels. This will only change the ease of raising celebrity level in future.

This mod will not affect sims that are not currently being played - only your currently played sims in your active family will be affected by this mod. If there is story progression that is involved in sims changing celeb status without being played, I think that's controlled by some other data. But if you'd like to be able to chat with a celeb without suddenly becoming one yourself too, this will help.

Updated:

You may have noticed this thread missing temporarily. After some more extensive testing and feedback, I've changed the initial celeb level threshhold a bit. This should prevent the widespread celebrity-ism from spreading across your playable sims like a virus.

Nothing was really "wrong" with the previous version besides it not working as well as it needed to to prevent the initial celeb level.

I've also kind of overhauled the thresholds, as the real problem with celebs is becoming one in the first place too easily. Therefore, there are now fewer flavours, but they're better and more logically tuned to increase the difficulty.


Patch Compatability:

This mod should work with any patch version from 1.33-1.38. No updates needed for 1.38.


Celebrity Level Thresholds

The general perception seems to be that it is WAY too easy to become a celebrity! It seems to take very little effort to become a middle-level celebrity (though you may have to work at it to get to 5 stars). Therefore, all the different flavours of this mod increase the time and effort it will take to become a celebrity. There is no "become a celebrity easier" flavour - it's already too easy!

All flavours increase the initial difficulty to become a celebrity, based on the point value for specific actions (becoming friends is 1000, good friends is 500, fiancee is 2000, and so on - these values I haven't changed). This should keep your playable sims from becoming celebs unless you really intend them to be.

Celebrity Level Threshhold Flavours

For these threshholds, it's to max out that level - so if you get all the points for level 0, you get 1 celeb star. If you get all the points for level 5, then you max your star points entirely.
  • Default: Difficulty to become a celebrity is unchanged - but you can still get the false accusation options/disgraceful actions stuffs.
    0: 100
    1: 1500
    2: 2000
    3: 4000
    4: 6000
    5: 10000
  • Low Difficulty: Overall challenge isn't much higher than default, but it should be harder to become a celebrity on accident.
    0: 2000
    1: 3000
    2: 4000
    3: 5000
    4: 7000
    5: 10000
  • Medium Difficulty: A little bit more difficult, but still nothing too taxing.
    0: 3000
    1: 4500
    2: 6000
    3: 8000
    4: 10000
    5: 15000
  • High Difficulty: Should be quite challenging to get to a high celeb level - even getting that first star should take being friends with several celebs.
    0: 4000
    1: 5500
    2: 7000
    3: 10000
    4: 15000
    5: 20000
  • Ultra Difficulty: Very challenging indeed, and will take serious dedication and a buttload of friends/lovers to become a high-level celebrity.
    0: 5000
    1: 7000
    2: 10000
    3: 15000
    4: 20000
    5: 25000


Disgraceful Actions

There are certain actions, that, if your sim is caught doing them, are considered "disgraceful" and get your sim a bad moodlet and bad reactions from other sims. By default, the possible disgraceful actions are:
  • Fighting in public
  • Cheating
  • Divorce
  • Job setback
  • Caught rummaging
  • Arrested
  • Child out of marriage
  • Caught sneaking into club
  • Detonating smashing (?)
  • Woohoo in public
  • Woohoo with occult
  • Bite someone in public
  • Get repossessed
  • Child taken
  • Peeing Self
  • Passing Out
  • Falsely accused

Many have expressed dismay at some of these actions being considered "disgraceful." Especially considering it's not just tabloid reports, but, "No, I know what you did, someone like YOU isn't getting in here!" type stuff from bouncers.

With the games having focused on a rather accepting view of "alternative lifestyles," certain items on the list seem very odd. Therefore, the following "disgraceful actions" have had their "chance" parameter set to 0. This -should- disable these actions as being disgraceful.

Disabled disgraceful actions:
  • Divorce
  • Child out of marriage
  • Woohoo with occult
  • Bite someone in public

ALL flavours, regardless of level thresholds (difficulty) have these actions disabled. There is also a version with default difficulty, and these actions disabled, if you're happy with how hard it is to become a celeb, but don't like that these things are considered disgraceful.


Falsely Accused Chance

Additionally, there are flavours of this mod which adjust the chance of being falsely accused - you can either choose the default chance, or lowered chances (it seems to happen really frequently!).

False accusation flavours (and their tuned values) are:
  • Default: 1
  • Half Default: 0.5
  • 20%: 0.2



Conflicts?

As this is an XML tuning mod, it will not conflict with any other mods unless they also modify the Celebrity XML. However, it is possible there are other mods that modify these things, or other parts of the Celebrity XML that I did not change. The following are things changed by the Celebrity XML:
  • Celebrity level thresholds
  • Disgraceful actions
  • Falsely accused chance
  • Celebrity discounts and freebies
  • Celebrity gifts

So, for example, if you find a mod that increases the chance of celebs getting freebies, it WILL conflict with this mod because it would change the same XML, even though I left those values the default.


Want another version?

It's super easy to modify the values to suit your own tastes! Just open any one of my files in S3PE, select the single XML file inside, and click Edit. Notepad will open with the file, and you can change the values as you want. Save, close Notepad, reload the file in S3PE, and save. Tada - custom modded XML!

Additional Credits:
Thanks to Delphy, Inge, Peter, and your mom.
Download files
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CelebrityMod-DefDiff-DefFA-DDAOnly_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions Only 4.0 KB 1,607 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-DefDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - Half Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 653 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-DefDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Default Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,629 4th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,115 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 824 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-LowDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Low Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,043 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 3,249 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,063 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-MedDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Medium Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,038 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,396 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,700 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-HighDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: High Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 2,174 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-DefFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - Default Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,991 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-HalfFA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - Half Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 1,161 7th Nov 2010
CelebrityMod-UltraDiff-20FA-DDA_HP.7z | Description: Ultra Difficulty - 20% Falsely Accused Chance - Disabled Disgraceful Actions 4.0 KB 5,031 7th Nov 2010
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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#76 Old 27th Dec 2010 at 8:36 PM
cuti3pi3 - Sorry, but no. I do not like that those actions are disgraceful, and I'm not interested in doing any version with those items set back to disgraceful. You can always edit the values yourself quite easily in S3PE to turn them back on, though.

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#77 Old 28th Dec 2010 at 10:43 PM
This. Is. Awesome! Just the mod I was looking for. (; I'm sick of my sims randomly being celebrities *on accident*

Thanks LOADS. (:
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#78 Old 2nd Jan 2011 at 3:59 AM
Does this also count for having a child outside of a steady? Because I was pissed when my Pollination Technician was disgraced because he had a child with another woman...twice(It's his job, he's a pollination technician!).
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#79 Old 5th Jan 2011 at 3:39 AM
thank you so much for this! the only problem, which isn't really a big deal, is that it doesn't work with the paparazzi mod by pcexpert. When it came down to choosing.... lol actually it was a no brainer to choose your mod. It's too bad though, cause i hate having three star sims followed by the paparazzi. *sigh* maxis made it too easy.

once again, thanks for improving the sims
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#80 Old 6th Jan 2011 at 11:52 PM
Thanks for this. I changed it a bit to remove rummaging from disgraceful. My Private Investigator Sim should not need to be disgraced for doing his job
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#81 Old 15th Jan 2011 at 4:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
cuti3pi3 - Sorry, but no. I do not like that those actions are disgraceful, and I'm not interested in doing any version with those items set back to disgraceful. You can always edit the values yourself quite easily in S3PE to turn them back on, though.


sorry didnt see that you replied , thank you though !
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#82 Old 15th Jan 2011 at 4:45 PM
uhm how would i go about editing those SEPE files is there a helper forum ?
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#83 Old 18th Jan 2011 at 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cuti3pi3
uhm how would i go about editing those SEPE files is there a helper forum ?


You could probably start here....
http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php...ims_3_Game_Help
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#84 Old 20th Jan 2011 at 9:09 PM
Thank you so much for this mod HP!!
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#85 Old 27th Jan 2011 at 3:38 PM
what type of file is 7z? I cant open it with anything (Winrar or Winzip)
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#86 Old 27th Jan 2011 at 4:39 PM
WinRAR opens 7z files just fine. Or you can get 7zip.

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
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#87 Old 2nd Feb 2011 at 6:23 PM
Thank you. Thank you. It never made sense to me when a low level dishwasher had 1 star simply by greeting a celebrity. He did nothing! Definitely going with the highest level because it should be hard to become a celebrity even if these days people like Kim Kardashian and the rest have it easy by association haha.
Thanks again!
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#88 Old 2nd Feb 2011 at 10:07 PM
Thank you so much for making this, this issue was really starting to annoy me! I read the comments, and I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm trying this mod with Awesomemod installed, and so far I haven't had any problems. I will report back if I do, but it seems reasonably safe

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#89 Old 3rd Feb 2011 at 2:00 AM
Thanks so much for this modder. It was one of the aspects I liked least in LT as well.
In fact, I have a game running with a family that I'm enjoying much but 2 are celebrities already and I didn't want them to. Is there a way to remove celebrety stars in the present?
Thanks so much once again.
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#90 Old 3rd Feb 2011 at 10:38 AM
I think either Twallan's Master Controller or Debug Enabler allow you to add or remove celebrity stars ( http://www.the-isz.com/nraas/index.php?board=4.0 ) . I can't remember which one does it but if you get both then you'll be able to do so
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#91 Old 5th Feb 2011 at 9:47 PM
Thank you SO SO much. I wasn't aware that just speaking to other celebrities would raise your celebrity level. I hate the paparazzi. Unfortunately, my sim is already a level 1, but this mod will prevent it from happening again. You're the best! :D
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#92 Old 9th Feb 2011 at 2:48 AM
Oh, thank god! My sim became a level 2 celeb while moonlighting at a bar, the the celeb she served to was level 1! Seriously, wtf? I was hoping someone would make a no celeb mod (like someone made a no vampire mod) but this will work too. I was also really tired of my vampire sim getting publicly disgraced for woohooing with her vampire ghost boyfriend... she had about 30 public disgraces for biting people, and woohooing with her boyfriend >_>
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#93 Old 4th Mar 2011 at 1:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eduardog3000
make a mod that makes it easier to gain celeb level.
and maybe one that only make levels 4 and 5 easier.

Easier??? LMAO it's already TO easy to become a celebirty........... i think this mod is just GREAT as it is...........and works perfectly........no more stars when talking to people with stars.....just what i wanted........so thnx for this great mod :D
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#94 Old 6th Apr 2011 at 6:39 AM
I still don't get how this achieves much considering everyone in sight is nearly or atleast a 1-star Celebrity, and trying to render through a day has become nothing else but painful impress clicks.
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#95 Old 9th Apr 2011 at 6:26 PM
Is their any way to make evil celebs happy when they get a disgrace? I like the idea of this mod since it will make some of the things that where bothering me non disgraceful but I'm looking for something that would also help with my evil sims, and evil sim should get enjoyment from people thinking their bad for doing something disgraceful in public like fighting and stuff.
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#96 Old 10th Apr 2011 at 7:03 PM
Hello to you all!

So here's what I noticed about my game. Becoming a celebrity is really a piece of cake.
But there's another problem too. I cannot figure out is it normal for a celebrity sim to have all relationships with other sims constantly increasing without even having any interactions with them?!?! One of my sims became friends with a bunch of celebs without even speaking to them (except for when she met them).
This mod definitely will help to make it harder for the sim to gain stars, but if the relationships keep improving like this, no matter how hard it is, eventually the sim will become a celebrity.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Is it purposefully made for celebrities? And if so, please give me a clue how to stop my sims from befriending anybody they meet.Thanks in advance..
And definitely thanks for this mod!
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#97 Old 15th Apr 2011 at 1:06 PM
I really like this, because i hate how nearly everyone has a celeb star, but... I know this has been asked before, but could you please make another version of this with the disgrace on? you see i tryed to install your routing fix with no succes, because i couldn't install S3PE on my mac, so im sure i wont be able to edit this myself...all i want is a flavour with default falsely accused, low difficulty, but with those public disgraces on please
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#98 Old 16th Apr 2011 at 10:51 PM
I have downloaded the <Ultra Difficulty> and I must say I am quite impressed. I got the latest game patch and it work along like a charm. So far my sim did not have any stars. Yay! Thank you so much, I've been waiting for this since the first days late night came out, you are my savior lol.
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#99 Old 16th Apr 2011 at 10:56 PM
Goga44 - I'm sorry, but - no. I'm not going to make a version with those things on because I don't think they should be disgraceful. You can easily re-enable them yourself if you want them, but it makes me grind my teeth that sims ridicule others for doing those things, so I'm not interested in making any mods that have those things as disgraceful enabled.

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