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It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.
As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.
Breast (female teen-elder)
Waist (all ages and genders)
Hip Size (all ages and genders)
Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
Head Size (all ages and genders)
Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
Neck (all ages and genders)
Chest (all ages and genders)
Leg width (all ages and genders)
Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.
These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.
These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.
The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
Head & Ears: 2
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.
You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).
If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
use mismatching game/mod versions
use multiple core mods at the same time
don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).
2 Jan 10:
Added 5 sliders
3 Jan 10:
Fixed male chest slider (hand shaking)
Included a few new translations
14 Jan 10:
Included russian translation by vladz
7 Feb 10:
Uploaded new SliderHack
17 Jun 10:
New Italian translation by classicplayer
05 Jan 12:
Enabled breast slider for males. You still need meshes enabled for them, though.
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.
Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.
Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.
Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.
Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.
Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.
Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.
Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.
The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).
Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.
The CAS descriptions are translated into many languages:
- spanish (Anubis360)
- italian (franziska1985, classicplayer)
- brazilian portuguese (AnnieBonnie)
- swedish (Nors)
- russian (MetalKat0642 & vladz)
- finnish (foxmanic)
- norwegian (gh0ul)
Added 30 Nov 09:
- dutch (mordiana)
- polish (Pavic)
- hungarian (Arwen0423)
- french (Edouard94 & timoram26)
- danish (trold123123)
- czech (Liska22)
Added 2 Jan 10:
- korean (coris)
- chinese (loveha2 & dk4ofjoshuayhyu)
- greek (Danaouli)
- mexican spanish
- japanese (ayukajuran99)
(If I forgot a translator, I'm sorry, PM me and I will add you)
Unfortunately not all sliders are translated. I still need translations for the five new sliders in most languages. To make translating easier, it would be nice, if you could use my translation tool, export your translations as a STBL file, and send this file to me. A tutorial should follow soon. But of course you can send them to me as text, too.
Thank you for the case slider. it'll give more of control how big you want the hips, butt, waist, breasts. i agree with you Jonha, not to have the sliders to the extreme or the sim will look jacked-up.
I love these, thankyou so much for all your hard work. You've added amazing dimension to this game, something I think everyone's been wanting for a very long time that EA just failed to deliver on.
Just as a suggestion, because it's something I noticed myself trying to correct nonstop, you know that ribcage area? I mean, beyond making breasts big and using Delphy's breast distance slider, it doesn't really effect the ribcage size to create that true hourglass shape I keep going for. So my big hipped/big breasted sims end up looking a little less than from the front view. Don't know if that can be done, but it's worth the suggestion.
Again, thankyou so much for all your hard work! It's much appreciated.
Scratch that, I just read that you're working on it and it's had some issues. Man you think of everything!
Jonha Thanks so much for all the hard work, I'm using your sliders and just the height slider and shape wise, my sims look amazing. wanna make alot of sims with these of all heights, shapes and sizes, and repopulate the whole town. cant wait to see the result of that. only thing i can hope for is to eventually find a short height slider. oh yeah, and larger eyes would be cool too. Jonha thanks again! Your Awesome! keep up the good work.
First of all, thank you for these. You and Delphy are genius. I'll be downloading them.
EDIT: The next most wanted slider I would think would be chest width.
Well, for me, the next most wanted slider would be horizontal eye stretching, followed by eyebrow thickeners and then ear up and down sliders since I build a lot of sims.
However, your sliders will be great for creating realistic celeb sims. Thanks again.
I'm testing eye-width now.
By brow thickness, did you mean vertically? Or brow depth?
And I can't help the ears, I haven't figured out how to do movement sliders, only scalar. I'll mess around some other day to figure those out.
Thanks again for your sliders. Like master215 I would appreciate if you could make neck slider as well, and maybe keep the head, shoulder and neck sliders together under the head section so that your breast slider still can be used in combination with Delhpy's breast sliders.
I use 3 of Delphy's breast sliders, and the reason I do that is, that I find that your breast slider gives the breast a more natural look (especially regarding the nipples position) when combine with the breast vertical slider, the breast depth slider and the breast scale slider, but mostly it's because I find, that using your breast slider alone does not work as well for teenagers and elders breasts as for the young adults and adults breast. Correction: The slider it self works just fine, it's just that it does not give as natural and variated look to these two agegroups breasts, and as my daugther is playing Sims, I really would like for her to learn and understand by playing with the bodysliders that nudity and variations of bodyshape are natural and covers all ages in real life. I can report, the she and her friends discovers a lot about them selfs and others being allow to do so. Most of all they learn to understand, that even the best of friends has differences in taste and oppions when it comes to looks and shapes, and the best part is that they also learn to meet and make space for each others preferences despite their differences. So thank you very much jonha - and Delphy as well - for these possibilities.