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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Jonha_Sliders.zip | Description: --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too. 10.2 KB 992,338 24th Nov 2009
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Top Secret Researcher
#2 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 5:22 PM
I can't wait to try it out! Thanks :-)
Test Subject
#3 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 5:31 PM
You completely and totally rock.

Going to test it out with 1.0.631 later today :D
Test Subject
#4 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 5:35 PM
O my god thanks!!! I've been hoping someone would make this for bust waist ánd hips, as thats the most realistic way. Thanks thanks thanks thanks, you improved my game in a way I could only dream of :D
Instructor
#5 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 5:49 PM
Very awesome. Glad to see them past the beta stage. :O) Thank you.

^_^
Lab Assistant
#6 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 5:52 PM
Thanks a lot! I was waiting for a long time that anyone talented makes hips sliders :D
Forum Resident
#7 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:09 PM
Great upload thank you so much!
I want to translate this hack into dutch, but first I need to know which words you used in english.

Creator and owner of SimsShine
Lab Assistant
#8 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:12 PM
Thanks so much! This rocks *downloads and goes to check it out*

Cheers! =D

lkandak
Scholar
Original Poster
#9 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimsShine
Great upload thank you so much!
I want to translate this hack into dutch, but first I need to know which words you used in english.


I already got a translation to dutch a few minutes before: http://www.modthesims.info/showpost...1&postcount=166

Anyway, i just used
breast size
head size
etc. as it states on the front page.

Btw: English is not my mother tongue, so it you have improvements to the english texts, i will take them, too, of course.
Test Subject
#10 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:19 PM
Awesome. Thank you for all your effort! Maybe once we'll really have a game without limits, and your work is a great advance towards that.

Oh and btw, the Hungarian translation would be like this:
-Breast size: Mellméret
-Waist size : Derékméret
-Hip size/pelvis width : Csípő-/Medenceméret
-Butt Size : Fenékméret
-Head Size : Fejméret
Test Subject
#11 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:34 PM
These are fantastic! I've played around with them in the latest patch (1.7) with Delphy's breast sliders, and they work really well together. Thanks a million!!

Don't be fooled by the name. The Meyves aren't as sweet as they seem.
The Meyve Legacy
Lab Assistant
#12 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:39 PM
I Can't find Awesome mod...Anyone know where I can find it? Thanks

EDIT: can you guys please tell me what other mods let you have more sliders, cause I have the delphy breast slider hack. Wait, this is in the lip section right? Thanks a bunch!

Cheers! =D

lkandak
Test Subject
#13 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:52 PM
Cool, you have a Norwegian translation already? xD
Thanks!
Lab Assistant
#14 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:57 PM
I remember seeing this great mod in the Beta section and thought! "Finally no more pancake butts for my sims!" (When I tested out the beta version btw, the pointyness wasn't a big deal. It only happened on long dresses and a few other clothes.)
Lab Assistant
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24th Nov 2009 at 6:58 PM
This message has been deleted by sims3blog. Reason: some one posted a french translation RIGHT AFTER me, wtf?1?
Test Subject
#15 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 6:59 PM
This mod is really awesome but can you translate it in french, please ?

This is the translations :
-Breast size = Taille des seins
-Waist size = Tour de taille
-Hip size = Taille des hanches
-Butt Size = Taille des fesses
-Head Size = Taille de la tęte

Thank you very much if you do it.
Scholar
Original Poster
#16 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:06 PM
Thanks for the translations. I got a polish one in a private message, so you don't need to post another one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lkandak
I Can't find Awesome mod...Anyone know where I can find it? Thanks


Use google.

Quote:
EDIT: can you guys please tell me what other mods let you have more sliders, cause I have the delphy breast slider hack. Wait, this is in the lip section right? Thanks a bunch!


Here is an experimental mod by S3Z:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthre...947#post2935947

(scroll a few posts down for the WA version)
Mad Poster
#17 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:17 PM
It's great to see the final version up for download, thank you very much for these!
Lab Assistant
#18 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:17 PM
jonha,

Thanks for making these sliders. You have really helped make TS3 more fun for me and helped me make a few really slender sims who don't also look emaciated. This is also good for making female sims with a more boyish figure. I also love that these are within realistic ranges and some characteristics seem to pass on in the genetics (my flatchested mothers seem to have flatchested daughters, which I love).

Jonha--can you confirm that these new sliders are picked up in the genetics?

Anyway. Thanks so much! I love your sliders, regardless of your answer. I never once encountered a problem during the beta testing.

I hope you are inspired to come up with even more sliders.
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Thanks for the translations. I got a polish one in a private message, so you don't need to post another one.



Use google.



Here is an experimental mod by S3Z:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthre...947#post2935947

(scroll a few posts down for the WA version)


Thanks so much! Now I can add the shoulder slider to my game too!

Cheers! =D

lkandak
Scholar
Original Poster
#20 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by taizhu
Jonha--can you confirm that these new sliders are picked up in the genetics?


Yes, they do. That's one of the reasons, they use realistic and safe settings.
Instructor
#21 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:51 PM
My stats: WA & update 2.2.8.002002. Works like a charm. I really like that they don't use silly ranges. Love the realism. Great work!

EDIT: Oh, and the shoulders? Awesome addition.
Lab Assistant
#22 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 7:59 PM
Thanks again, I've just checked up them, the sliders are okay, work fine with Delphy's breasts sliders (without these breasts sliders)
Screenshots
Test Subject
#23 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 8:04 PM
Thank you so much for this!! ^O^ I love it and it works perfectly! =D

I have a mac and TS3 WA, no other patches after that. =) WORKS PERFECTLY! ^^ Thanks! I love how realistic it acctually looks! ^^
Forum Resident
#24 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 8:21 PM
This is fantastic, the more the better!

I especially find the headsize slider useful, great to fix a too small head + ugly neck.

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#25 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 8:30 PM
you are so awesome, i can't wait to play this. so let me get this straight, when they do update awesomemod to work with world adventures, it'll be fine just as long as i don't go to the extremes of minimal or maximum? is there a chance that with awesomemod that there might be extreme versions of sims walking around with hack? i'm just wondering.
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