What did you discover today while playing the sims?

[DrowningFishy]

That the desperation result for a Pleasure sim is a very amusing dance with a lampshade on their head... I'm so amused by this antic I have done nothing to help this poor sim. Guess he's going to have to wait till the amusement is over.

http://s1111.photobucket.com/albums/h462/DrowningDaFishy/?action=view&current=Lampshade.jpg

PS: For some odd reason-and I am not a HP fan-I keep calling him Voldamort. 0_o

[katya_stevens]

That the desperation result for a Pleasure sim is a very amusing dance with a lampshade on their head... I'm so amused by this antic I have done nothing to help this poor sim. Guess he's going to have to wait till the amusement is over.

In my opinion, the Pleasure and Grilled Cheese aspiration failures are the most amusing -- Pleasure as you've seen is dancing with a lampshade; Grilled Cheese is nomming on a piece of cardboard with an anthromorphic grilled cheese sandwich on it. The first time I ever saw it was in someone's legacy -- there was a wedding going on and all the Grilled Cheese sim could do was eat his 'sandwich' and look around to prevent people stealing it.

[DrowningFishy]

In my opinion, the Pleasure and Grilled Cheese aspiration failures are the most amusing -- Pleasure as you've seen is dancing with a lampshade; Grilled Cheese is nomming on a piece of cardboard with an anthromorphic grilled cheese sandwich on it. The first time I ever saw it was in someone's legacy -- there was a wedding going on and all the Grilled Cheese sim could do was eat his 'sandwich' and look around to prevent people stealing it.

I've been hearing about this grilled cheese asperation, tell me which episode does this belong to this intreges me.

[Aegagropilon]

I've been hearing about this grilled cheese asperation, tell me which episode does this belong to this intreges me.

Grilled Cheese came as a hidden aspiration with Nightlife. You have to send a sim with green or lower -- red is best -- aspiration to that ReNuYu SensoOrb. They'll stick their head in, a bunch of red smoke'll appear, and they'll come out with an obsession with grilled cheese.

[DrowningFishy]

Grilled Cheese came as a hidden aspiration with Nightlife. You have to send a sim with green or lower -- red is best -- aspiration to that ReNuYu SensoOrb. They'll stick their head in, a bunch of red smoke'll appear, and they'll come out with an obsession with grilled cheese.

SensoOrb-What's a SensoOrb?? Wow I am learning lots of things today. GOOGLE TIME!

-Edit- HOLY COWPLANT it worked. XDXDXD I now have a grilled cheese asperation.

[eldavis]

That Brandi Broke is insane. She rolled the want to have 10 kids...

[Peni Griffin]

Most Family sims will roll that at some point in the endorphin rush right after a kid is born. Don't worry, it rolls away soon.

This is not a want for the fainthearted. If you ever decide to go for it, you should probably start with a born in-game sim and plan his or her entire adult life around it. Also, plan for the knock-on consequences - soon your neighborhood will increase vastly in size, you'll have a lot of households with the same name, and certain genetic features will haunt you for the rest of the neighborhood's life!

[Darby]

Most Family sims will roll that at some point in the endorphin rush right after a kid is born. Don't worry, it rolls away soon.

This is not a want for the fainthearted. If you ever decide to go for it, you should probably start with a born in-game sim and plan his or her entire adult life around it. Also, plan for the knock-on consequences - soon your neighborhood will increase vastly in size, you'll have a lot of households with the same name, and certain genetic features will haunt you for the rest of the neighborhood's life!

Yeah, that's a want I've never let a sim fulfill, and likely never will.

I had a Popularity sim roll this want recently, btw. (I think she's secondary family, though. *double-checking* Yes.) I told her, "You might as well roll somethin' else, 'cuz that ain't happ'nin'!". :lol:

[nikel23]

I found out that when eating at the restaurant, ANY member of the outing who has a coupon can use it for free dining, even if the Sim is not the currently played Sim. As a result, that Sim will also lose the coupon when the household is played...

[DrowningFishy]

Yeah, that's a want I've never let a sim fulfill, and likely never will.

I had a Popularity sim roll this want recently, btw. (I think she's secondary family, though. *double-checking* Yes.) I told her, "You might as well roll somethin' else, 'cuz that ain't happ'nin'!". :lol:

Nervous has 15 I recently counted and one on the way. >> << >> I accomplished this 2 other times. XD I feel special my sims are breeding machines.

[AmphyPrincess]

That even though I've heard horrid things about the Ottomas twins, they aren't horribly evil... Just ugly.

[Darby]

I feel special my sims are breeding machines.

I feel just the opposite. When a couple has more than 2-3 kids, it's hard to feel connected with all of them, and they become UNspecial to me. I also don't want one family or one family's genetics to dominate the 'hood.

@AmphyPrincess
I've always felt the poor Ottomas family is unfairly maligned. They ARE ugly, which is weird, because I think both Peter and Samantha look fine. Can't figure out why the kids turn out the way they do. But anyway, I love even my ugly sims. Ugly often translates to "interesting" and/or "endearing". :)

[Peni Griffin]

I don't even find mine all that ugly; but that's a matter of taste. Theodora is growing up into a believeable Romance sim - attractive enough that attitude will carry her through and allow her to convince the guys that she's hotter than an objective eye would allow - and Ted, bless him, already has the look of the stodgy middle-aged Fortune sim he's going to become. Something about the default expression his features give him. It hides an artistic soul though - his LTW is to reach the top of the dance career and his OTH is Arts and Crafts.

Layers! Our sims have layers!

[Alijah]

That even though I've heard horrid things about the Ottomas twins, they aren't horribly evil... Just ugly.

I LOVE the Ottomas family, ugliness and all. They are some of my favorite sims! I said I'd try not to let them have kids though, to keep those genes far away from the gene pool lol, but I gave in to them. David just had his first daughter and Sharla just had twins, and though they are obviously of Ottomas genes, they are not nearly as bad as I thought they would be; David's daughter (thankfully) inherited most of her mother's (Angela Pleasant) looks, and Sharla's twin girls are also cute in their own way. I think they will grow into their features, though!

I learned just how helpful smart milk is when there are toddlers in the house! I always knew it was a nice reward item, but I never bothered to make the counter space and time to make the milk everytime I wanted to have a learning session with my toddlers. Today I tried it with Sharla's twin girls and now they're both potty trained in 2 sittings! Wahoo!

[Peni Griffin]

I feel pretty good about breeding Ted Ottomas to Harriet Hawkins, because I can see, in the children produced in my Hawkins-Newson marriages, that my extreme cartoony features are easy to breed out. By marrying a couple of unpretty sims I should be guaranteed unpretty, individual children.

Although I have to say I'm very disappointed in the regularity of feature I got breeding craggy-faced Garrett Newson to a camel-faced CAS sim. But they're only one kid in and she's still a toddler; maybe the next one will be homelier, and the first one will grow out of her features.

[Darby]

I learned just how helpful smart milk is when there are toddlers in the house! I always knew it was a nice reward item, but I never bothered to make the counter space and time to make the milk everytime I wanted to have a learning session with my toddlers. Today I tried it with Sharla's twin girls and now they're both potty trained in 2 sittings! Wahoo!

Combine a Smart-Milked toddler with a trainer who's wearing a Thinking Cap, and potty training takes only one session, if bladder motive is very low, or if you have the fall skilling boost working for you. :)

You don't usually need more than one bottle of smart milk per toddler, by the way. The effect tends to get "stuck", and sometimes a second bottle will actually negate the effect of the first. This also means the boost doesn't go away when the toddler stops glowing, and that you can give them their one bottle of smart milk any time - not just before a training session.

Pescado's Lot Debugger/Batbox can be used to see a sim's IQ level. Useful for knowing if the smart milk is in effect. Normal sim intelligence is 100. Sims with the smart milk boost in effect will be at 300.

[Liv Lukas]

Does the IQ boost help the Sim through her whole life? Or just when toddler training?

[katya_stevens]

Does the IQ boost help the Sim through her whole life? Or just when toddler training?

It depends if it gets "stuck" or not. If it doesn't get stuck, the IQ boost lasts for however long your toddler stays glowing (and repeated smart milk will give the IQ boost again). If the smart milk effect does stick, then if circumstances allow it, sims can keep it for their entire life -- in my game sims get smart milk stick, and continue to have the increased IQ until they move out (which is, generally speaking, when they go to university) or are reset thanks to an error (but a mod in testing on MATY, from Seasons onwards under the hack directory (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7.0.html) prevents the IQ boost loss upon the sim resetting).

[Darby]

I think I've had the smart milk bug stick up through teen, but that's rare. It usually only lasts through to kid, if that, for me.

Also, the batbox can be used to give any sim a 300 IQ. It tends to be fragile (more like smart milk ought to work?), but it's there. I rarely use it, but it's nice to give adult CAS sims with no skills a boost toward catching up to their born-in-game peers.

[eldavis]

I just started playing Strangetown and married Ophelia and Johnny. So, I went and threw a wedding party. I didn't realize how alcoholic Sims act. They would not stay away from the champagne and the bar. It's a good thing alcohol isn't a teratogen in the Sims. I'd be very worried for any unborn Sims if it was. :beer:

[smorbie1]

Eldavis, I smiled when I read your siggie. After all these years, I still am absolutely in love with toddlers. I love to watch their little backsides wiggle when they crawl, and their little arms held out to their sides as they walk. I like to watch them play with their toys, and just puddle up inside whenever I come up on one whose just sitting there singing a nursery rhyme. I have a serious simmie maternal crush on their adorability. They are too cute, aren't they? When I switched to sims 3, I just couldn't believe the creators had gotten rid of all that adorableness.

[Liv Lukas]

Agreed, Smorbie. Sims 3 toddlers look deformed, too big and too vacant.

Thanks for the info Katya.

[AmphyPrincess]

That, when you rake leaves and burn them, you don't need to immediately make everyone flee for their lives... :faceslap:

[Babahara]

Playing very poor sims, I found out that stargazing is a cheap activity to gain some fun and science enthusiasm. And that it raises comfort.

P.S By stargazing I meant stargazing without a telescope, lying on the ground.

[Alijah]

Playing very poor sims, I found out that stargazing is a cheap activity to gain some fun and science enthusiasm. And that it raises comfort.

I love having some cheap art (that deliciously tacky flamingo comes to mind) as a quick way to boost some fun.

You can also invite another sim to join in the viewing, and the two will sit there appraising it as if it were some fine work of art, instead of just a pink plastic flamingo. Always worth a laugh.

[Amairani]

After many years of playing, I found out an awesome thing, well for me it IS awesome :D

If a part of household moves out, a new family they form take up the Last Name of a Sim who initiated the moving out process!

For example, how I often play: a family with an adult daughter, who falls in love with a townie. Townie moves in with them but after awhile the pair is ready to move out and start a family of their own. I would always make the daughter to look for a new place, dunno why, it's like as if the moved in fiancée has no rights to decide yet :D
So after she and fiancée move out, they form a new household using the left behind family's Last Name and I always thought that how it's supposed to be. After they get married at their own place, I'd go to SimPe to change the household's name to the husband's Last name. And this is how I played for years.

This time I made the guy Sim to look for a new place and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the new household automatically got his Last Name! Oh joy!

[Babahara]

I was shocked to discover that the "go to jogging" interaction builds body skill!

My sim had a want to reach skill 9 in body, and it was almost done, I locked it in order to have it fulfilled right before her carpool comes to reach platinum mood. The wish got fulfilled while she was jogging out of having nothing better to do, though. Now I can see that such a big waste of energy and hygiene was not designed in vain...

[Babahara]

You can also invite another sim to join in the viewing, and the two will sit there appraising it as if it were some fine work of art, instead of just a pink plastic flamingo. Always worth a laugh.
That's nice, I forgot that you can ask sims to join! But I'd rather have sims not appreciate art objects autonomously or at least not laugh hysterically. Once I already wrote in another thread that sims on my community graveyard laugh at the dead, whose paintings are hung above their graves.:faceslap:They also laugh at the frescas in the temple of the local goddess, which is totally unacceptable for my story. And I shudder to imagine what would happen if I created a museum... unless it's a museum of comic art.

[AlexandraSpears]

That's nice, I forgot that you can ask sims to join! But I'd rather have sims not appreciate art objects autonomously or at least not laugh hysterically. Once I already wrote in another thread that sims on my community graveyard laugh at the dead, whose paintings are hung above their graves.:faceslap:They also laugh at the frescas in the temple of the local goddess, which is totally unacceptable for my story. And I shudder to imagine what would happen if I created a museum... unless it's a museum of comic art.

There's a fix for that at MATY, I think it's called "Signs Are Not Funny."

[Peni Griffin]

Jogging, shooting hoops, and tossing the football will all build fitness, body, and fitness or sports enthusiasm as appropriate. I believe jogging or hiking with someone else also builds the relationship. It is scary how fast they all blow hygiene, though.

[Aegagropilon]

But jumping rope will build body, but not fitness.

I know there's a fix for it, but it's convenient to have some way to build body skill for job/college advancement that won't make my fat sims fit.

[eldavis]

I've discovered that the Capp family tree is rather entertaining. I personally like Hamlet and Tobea.

[Aegagropilon]

If a part of household moves out, a new family they form take up the Last Name of a Sim who initiated the moving out process!

Be careful when you do this: if I remember correctly, if one half of a married/engaged/in-love couple moves out and doesn't take the other one with them, the sim left behind will cry as the other one's leaving. I thought it was a nice touch.

[lizard49]

Be careful when you do this: if I remember correctly, if one half of a married/engaged/in-love couple moves out and doesn't take the other one with them, the sim left behind will cry as the other one's leaving. I thought it was a nice touch.

Not if the Sim left behind is an evil witch/warlock! Then they just wave bye-bye. :rofl:

[AlexandraSpears]

But jumping rope will build body, but not fitness.

I know there's a fix for it, but it's convenient to have some way to build body skill for job/college advancement that won't make my fat sims fit.

If you have Seasons, get hold of the Education career track book case. Your Sims can study any skill just by reading.

Or, just have them pig out after exercise.

[Peni Griffin]

Um - no, Aegeropilon; jumping rope will improve fitness! It may not work as fast as yoga, swimming, ice skating, etc., but it does work; and it's more fun than yoga plus more convenient than going to a community lot for the others. Cooper Hawkins is married to a woman with fitness as a turn-on, and he got rid of his gut for her almost entirely by jumping rope.

He's in constant danger of losing it because her other turn-on is cooking skill and Cooper is nothing if not diligent about keeping his woman turned on; also, they fish a lot. And of course fitness decays, but body won't, so it's easy to have a fat sim with lots of body points, I find.

[smorbie1]

I discovered that I STILL hate sending sims to uni. No matter what I do to try to make it better, it is just not fun to me. I keep the game on ff and just try to get through it.

[Amairani]

Be careful when you do this: if I remember correctly, if one half of a married/engaged/in-love couple moves out and doesn't take the other one with them, the sim left behind will cry as the other one's leaving. I thought it was a nice touch.

Nah, I don't split couples in relationship, only move out their grownup kids with fiancées :) I might kill [annoying] Sims sometimes, but I'm not that cruel to break up/divide Sims in love.

[Aegagropilon]

Um - no, Aegeropilon; jumping rope will improve fitness! It may not work as fast as yoga, swimming, ice skating, etc., but it does work; and it's more fun than yoga plus more convenient than going to a community lot for the others. Cooper Hawkins is married to a woman with fitness as a turn-on, and he got rid of his gut for her almost entirely by jumping rope.

He's in constant danger of losing it because her other turn-on is cooking skill and Cooper is nothing if not diligent about keeping his woman turned on; also, they fish a lot. And of course fitness decays, but body won't, so it's easy to have a fat sim with lots of body points, I find.

Really? I hadn't noticed that with the EPs that I have loaded. Are you sure you didn't download the fix from MATY?

Or maybe because sims like Buck and Verity are so SO low in fitness that it doesn't make any measurable difference? :lol:

[Peni Griffin]

Quite sure I've downloaded no fix. My athletes - Clovis, Sadie, and Greg - got fit in college on jumping rope alone (it took me forever to start doing the yoga) long before I was driven to find online resources by the disastrous Interrupted Date Glitch, which happened long after those three had graduated.

It's hard as the dickens to get and keep a truly fat sim fit - I wouldn't worry about it if I were you! I've found that sims I created overweight in CAS are nearly impossible to keep fit.

[Babahara]

I noticed that rope jumping helps with raising fitness, too, it just happens very very slowly.

Come to think of it, I noticed that with different sims the speed of gaining fitness is visibly different. Some can gain it more or less quickly, although not comparably to normal exercising, others can jump to max out body skill and still lack a tiny bit to become fit. No idea what that depends on.

[Darby]

Come to think of it, I noticed that with different sims the speed of gaining fitness is visibly different. Some can gain it more or less quickly, although not comparably to normal exercising, others can jump to max out body skill and still lack a tiny bit to become fit. No idea what that depends on.

Highly Active sims gain Body skill faster.

Studying Physiology helps sims gain body skill faster also, but there's a glitch associated with studying physiology whereby sims gain ALL skills insanely fast, instead of just getting a modest gain on body skill alone. Pescado has a fix (eta: alfixes) for this, though, for those who prefer not to exploit that glitch.

[A.G.Doren]

Toddlers react to the heat of bath water with a little gasp when their parents bathe them. I'd never noticed that before.

[Orilon]

I know Seasons has been out for several years, but I just got it.

I found out that if lightning hits a grave stone, the ghost will come out if they weren't out already.

I was playing the Dreamer's lot and Darleen hadn't been out before the lightning hit her grave stone but she was sure out after it hit whining about Darren marrying Cassandra.

[NatteryakToad]

I noticed that rope jumping helps with raising fitness, too, it just happens very very slowly.

I guess this is a stupid question, but how do you make sims jump rope?

[Darby]

I guess this is a stupid question, but how do you make sims jump rope?

Click the sim, and you'll see the option, assuming you AL. (I think that's the one Jump Rope came with...)

[eldavis]

Sims do a little victory dance when they come home after being promoted. At least, that's what I'm chalking Ainsley's shenanigans up to. :|

[Darby]

Actually, it's something Family sims do, promotion or no, assuming you're talking about the "Hey, I'm home! Who wants a hug?" thing. For some players, that gets old fast, but I still get a chuckle out of it after many years of playing. :)

[eldavis]

Ah, that makes sense. The only person who could actually even come greet her would be the nanny... Ha ha.

[Peni Griffin]

If the sim is best friends with her kids - any kind of sims, not just family ones - the kids will often drop what they're doing and hurtle out to the mailbox to hug her. I think it's as cute as anything the toddlers do; which I realize is saying a lot.

[DrowningFishy]

The Llama just got NOMed by the cowplant; did not know mascots where so stu-erm-into cake.

[RowenaLupin]

I discovered that it's definitely NOT a good idea to mix ACR, Inge's Visitor Controller, and making my Sims check if they are a woohoo willing participant! It's LOADS of fun, but now I have more trouble to cause. =D

[Liv Lukas]

That the "Give Me Beauty" genie lamp wish is causing Sims to ring the doorbell at all times of the day and night. Argh! *pulls out hair*

[Babahara]

If the sim is best friends with her kids - any kind of sims, not just family ones - the kids will often drop what they're doing and hurtle out to the mailbox to hug her. I think it's as cute as anything the toddlers do; which I realize is saying a lot.
In my game I've never seen kids hug their dad, even being best friend with him. They only hug mommies :(

[Aegagropilon]

In my game I've never seen kids hug their dad, even being best friend with him. They only hug mommies :(

Simkids seem to play favorites as far as which parent they hug when that parent returns from work. When the Beaker twins were kids, Surt always hugged Circe and Siggeir always hugged Loki. And Verity always hugged Lazlo when he returned from work, but rarely hugged Crystal when she returned from work. And the Curious twins didn't seem to really care either way when either Pascal or Bella returned from work; they were too busy being smarmy tech addicts. Aldous sometimes runs and hugs Stella when she comes home from work; I'll have to keep an eye on his twin siblings and see if they run for her when they become kids.

[katya_stevens]

In my game I've never seen kids hug their dad, even being best friend with him. They only hug mommies :(

There's an oddity in the game coding which causes children to favor one parent over the other -- there's a fix by tunaisafish (http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=6965.msg140383#msg140383) on Simbology.

[Babahara]

That's very interesting, I'd never guess that there are favorites! :)

Btw, an accidental discovery or rather a small abuse of the game:

It always bugged me that sims who phone over your sim invite them downtown. I was too impatient to wait till Downtown loads, and even PMed a few mod makers to ask if it was possible to make a mod that lets you choose non-downtown destination from the location menu in such cases. But I got no response.

The solution turned out to be accidental and easy. Just don't go to the taxi when it arrives, wait until the message "You'd better head to a community lot, you don't want to stand X up" pops up. Only after that go to a community lot, and you'll have a full menu available, not only downtown locations. That's very handy :)

[Orilon]

In my game I've never seen kids hug their dad, even being best friend with him. They only hug mommies :(


Hmm, I've seen something different.

I don't know if its because I have the hugging hack (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/samples/ts2/index.php?dir=al%2Fhacks%2F look for hugginghack if you want it) but I found that when Puck and Hermia got home at the same time, it was in their daughter's queue to hug both. I canceled both hugs so she could finish her food.

She is best friends with both parents.

[Peni Griffin]

I don't have a hugging hack, and I've seen that, too, when the parents get home at the same time. Generally it's a timing issue which one drops out, but if you have two kids they may split up the parents by mutual consent. The period when the Munny kids were kids and both parents came home at four was brief, but generally speaking, Frank, the half-alien, would be the one to hug Ernest and Mark, the normal birth, would hug Sage Ann. This made a lot of sense to me given the biological reality in that family.

If parents aren't getting home at the same time, and there's only one child, both parents are likely to get hugged in my families. John Amos Aerius used to meet his Pa at the mailbox to show him his good grades in the afternoon, and would also get up at 3 AM to run down and hug his Dad when he got home from a gig. This is the only kid in my neighborhood who woke up for the action, but probably that's because if I put a kid down for a nap after school he's exhausted and at best has a half-full energy bar by the time the parent gets home, while John Amos would be about ready to wake up and finish his homework anyway.

[DrowningFishy]

Well this is accumilated key bashing

Y key is eqivilant to the tab key. Furthermore F10 is like Y and Tab except the camera does not move with mouse except for < and >.

Speaking of Fs
F1: Shirts -edit oups IPD showing there it should be shrinks XD- the need menu
F2: Puts it in buy mode
F3 puts it in Build mode
F4: Puts it into make a story
F5: Brings you to neighborhood/save/option menue
Q is quit Q and Enter will exit you from the game faster then you can say OUPS!
G the veiw is from the ground up.
V puts it in camera mode
B pauses and restarts recording.

Also if your sim falls in love with a mascot and they move in to continue their annoying ways KILL THEM! Kill them and revive them. Pascel (JR) fell in love with a cheerleader Jade Rara and I thought I would go mad with the constant noncancelable cheer. So I gave/fed her to the cowplant called up the grim reaper and no more school cheer. Now it looks like Nervious (JR) has fallen for the new cheerleader. OH LORDY these twins are going to drive me nuts.

[Alijah]

Also if your sim falls in love with a mascot and they move in to continue their annoying ways KILL THEM! Kill them and revive them. Pascel (JR) fell in love with a cheerleader Jade Rara and I thought I would go mad with the constant noncancelable cheer. So I gave/fed her to the cowplant called up the grim reaper and no more school cheer. Now it looks like Nervious (JR) has fallen for the new cheerleader. OH LORDY these twins are going to drive me nuts.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I wonder if it also works for other NPCs that retain their NPC-behavior once they become playables; namely, being able to enter a home uninvited. Brandi Broke married an npc and he's become the neighborhood creep. I cannot count the times I found him sitting on the computer looking up hobbies while the rest of the family were fast asleep.

[AlexandraSpears]

If your Sim gets struck by lightning their Energy increases. (You'd think that with that energy boost they could run a little faster to the bathroom, though.)

[Darby]

If your Sim gets struck by lightning their Energy increases.

Hadn't noticed that one, but the same thing happens when a sim is working on the engine of the fixer-upper FT hobby car, and it backfires. :lol:

[eldavis]

That it isn't a good idea to hit delete when you get an error from CC in game and have no clue what it means. It was some sort of stack object message and I thought it was asking me to delete some sort of error log...instead I deleted Laurel, my toddler. Luckily I had saved prior to this and I just exited to t he neighborhood screen. Gonna go to a different household for a while. :faceslap:

Oh, and sims 2 fires are kind of lame. Everyone but Tybalt Capp was out of the house so I made him tired, sent him to start cooking a tv dinner and put him to bed. (I put the appliances in a bedroom and blocked the exits.) They don't last very long. I miss the blazing TS3 infernos. There was this one house that for some reason the floor would just catch on fire. There used to be a fire place but I went and deleted it after it set the living room on fire. I would watch to see how far it had spread when there was nothing to do back at my lot. :heyhey:

And, apparantly you can smash urns. Hermia Capp thought it would be lovely to smash her parent's urns into smithereens. :cry: SMH.

[Peni Griffin]

Tell that to Spring Thyme, dead of a tree fire I expected to go out by itself! I forgot the tree in question was surrounded by shrubbery. By the time the carpool came the yard was a blazing inferno.

[eldavis]

How do you get a tree fire? Lightning strike?

[Orilon]

And, apparantly you can smash urns. Hermia Capp thought it would be lovely to smash her parent's urns into smithereens. :cry: SMH.

Sims tend to break urns if they are in aspiration failure (Did you move her dad's grave inside? at the beginning of the game, her mom's and grandma's urns are inside, and rest of the dead relatives are in the grave yard including her dad.)

Speaking of her mom's urn, does Cordelia's ghost act like a total B**ch in anyone else's game? I found out the hard way that Cordelia's ghost is majorly angry about dying in the fire.

She scared Tybalt and Hermia twice and Consort FIVE times all in one night. She also broke a lamp and a phone, in the same night. I now move her urn, Contessa's urn and the graves in the grave yard to a community lot grave yard so she doesn't wreck havoc on the living.

[smorbie1]

Consort is a perv. I once had him living with Tybalt and his wife Melissa Fugly. Yes, she looked like name. Anyway Tybalt and Melissa were honeymooning. It was pre Seasons so I had their bed set up on the big porch overlooking the rolling lawn. She had just slipped into a very honeymoonish nightie I got from Sexy Sims and the couple lay down to woohoo. Suddenly, I realized Consort was staring at them out of the window. And smiling. It was years ago and I still get grossed out every time I see him. Yuuuuck

[Peni Griffin]

Yes, eldavis, a tree fire happens by lightning strike. The sims panic about them just the same as usual, but normally the rain puts them right out because most trees don't have other flammable things right around them.

It might not have been a tree, either, now I think of it. It might have been one of the tall shrubs. However, I would assume that shrub and tree fires work the same way.

There is a glitch that causes trees to burn forever, catch fire again, burn invisibly even after you delete the tree, and possibly other annoying things; but there is a known fix for it. I've never had it, only read about it, so I don't know if that one spreads. I think it just tanks the environment score because garden club ladies can see it when nobody else can.

[eldavis]

Consort is a perv. I once had him living with Tybalt and his wife Melissa Fugly. Yes, she looked like name.
I'm literally laughing out loud at this. If I decide to play TS3 again some time (I probably will. I go through phases with games. I get bored, stop playing, come back, lather rinse and repeat.) I'm definitely making a Fugly family to put in Twinbrook. :rofl:

Regarding the urns, I just assumed it was her parent's. I definitely play favorites with my sims, so Hermia really isn't getting much attention. I really want to kill off Consort. He won't leave poor Juliette alone... I think I'll just move Juliette out. I don't like the rest of the Capp family.

I revoke my statement about TS2 fires being lame. I left my game running while I went to use the bathroom. I come back and the kitchen is on fire. Of course, Juliette decided to drop dead in front of the phone so no one was able to reach the FD. (I moved Juliette and Hermia into the Monty house.) So Mercutio is at work when it started. He had just pleaded for Hermia's life with Grimmy and was successful, at least the first time. After he left, Juliette set the stove on fire and the ENTIRE kitchen caught on fire. So the Sims did their sim fire dance...and all died. Good day for Grim, bad day for the residents of the Monty ranch.

[smorbie1]

I revoke my statement about TS2 fires being lame. I left my game running while I went to use the bathroom. I come back and the kitchen is on fire. Of course, Juliette decided to drop dead in front of the phone so no one was able to reach the FD. (I moved Juliette and Hermia into the Monty house.) So Mercutio is at work when it started. He had just pleaded for Hermia's life with Grimmy and was successful, at least the first time. After he left, Juliette set the stove on fire and the ENTIRE kitchen caught on fire. So the Sims did their sim fire dance...and all died. Good day for Grim, bad day for the residents of the Monty ranch.

I can't tell you how many times I would sigh with relief about one of my favorite or important sim lives being saved by winning a game with Grimmy only to have that same stupid sim die again later that die! It's just fate, I guess. Finally, I quit even trying. If they want to die, let them. I can make more. :D

[eldavis]

I've got a great story that involves Consort. So I aged up Hermia and Mercutio to Adults and threw a wedding party. So I figured I would invite Puck and Consort Capp. BIG mistake. I didn't realize Puck and Hermia were in a relationship (unless he was crushing real hard on her) and she lost 5,000 aspiration when he saw her kiss Mercutio. The next part is better. So when Consort arrived he beat up a townie, I forget her name. After that he tried to beat up Isabella Monty, but he got whooped. So, I asked him to leave. I didn't see him again. That is, until after the couple had left in the limo. Romeo was making a toast to Juliette and out of nowhere consort comes running up to them with a champagne glass. When they look at him, he runs away... :rofl:

[Liv Lukas]

Oh, and sims 2 fires are kind of lame.

I've had a mod in my game, since like 2005, called Bad Ass Fire, by a modder called O_o, let me see if I can find it online...

Yep! http://www.sims2workshop.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=124

You wanna fire, you gotta fire. It really ramps it up.

[DrowningFishy]

I've had a mod in my game, since like 2005, called Bad Ass Fire, by a modder called O_o, let me see if I can find it online...

Yep! http://www.sims2workshop.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=124

You wanna fire, you gotta fire. It really ramps it up.

I fell into a burning ring of fire. I went down down down as the flames got higher. And it burns burns burns the ring of fire the ring of fire.

:cough: I mean thank you, now when I step away from the computer I can really regret it. XD Now to make college shorter (but at least this will make college more fun).

[music2ologist]

I discovered that ugly Wanda Tinker and unbearably ugly Chester Geike have a three-bolt passion for each other, and their son is quite good looking. He has Chester's pale skintone and narrow nose, with Wanda's merry eyes. Chester invited Wanda to move in, and they a make a loving family.

[DrowningFishy]

I discovered that ugly Wanda Tinker and unbearably ugly Chester Geike have a three-bolt passion for each other, and their son is quite good looking. He has Chester's pale skintone and narrow nose, with Wanda's merry eyes. Chester invited Wanda to move in, and they a make a loving family.

Obvously using cheats, but Nervous Subject and Pascel Curious both can have a cute child and are capable of having twins with oppisite looks AND personalities.

[MsScribble]

I found out that if you innocently ask your sim to pat the ornamental reindeer, they'll manage to turn it into a life or death drama:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6240/6240480290_6d398500fe.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/asylumjewell/6240480290/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6222/6240477184_e202671a9c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/asylumjewell/6240477184/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6171/6239955517_e510e801d7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/asylumjewell/6239955517/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6227/6240469124_e945bfbfa2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/asylumjewell/6240469124/)

[AlexandraSpears]

I've got a great story that involves Consort. So I aged up Hermia and Mercutio to Adults and threw a wedding party. So I figured I would invite Puck and Consort Capp. BIG mistake. I didn't realize Puck and Hermia were in a relationship (unless he was crushing real hard on her)

Yeah, Hermia and Puck have a crush on each other when you first start Veronaville.

[Peni Griffin]

Okay, that reindeer thing is just - weird. It looks like she's been struck by lightning, but the only danger from kissing an ice sculpture should be getting your tongue stuck.

Maybe it just looks like an ice sculpture and is really made of Christmas tree lights? They don't look like Christmas tree lights.

[smorbie1]

I've got a great story that involves Consort. So I aged up Hermia and Mercutio to Adults and threw a wedding party. So I figured I would invite Puck and Consort Capp. BIG mistake. I didn't realize Puck and Hermia were in a relationship (unless he was crushing real hard on her) and she lost 5,000 aspiration when he saw her kiss Mercutio. The next part is better. So when Consort arrived he beat up a townie, I forget her name. After that he tried to beat up Isabella Monty, but he got whooped. So, I asked him to leave. I didn't see him again. That is, until after the couple had left in the limo. Romeo was making a toast to Juliette and out of nowhere consort comes running up to them with a champagne glass. When they look at him, he runs away... :rofl:

That is too funny! I've tried to avoid him since our little incident, so I don't really know anything about his personality other than the pervert part. I kind of feel sorry for him now, though. He just wants to be part of the party.

[Orilon]

Yeah, Hermia and Puck have a crush on each other when you first start Veronaville.

Hermia and Puck have mutual crushes, and Hermia and Mercutio have mutual crushes. She seems to like Puck a little better since is closer to falling in love with him and has a specific want to have her first kiss with Puck when a player starts Veronaville.

[eldavis]

I didn't fulfill that wish when it was rolled so I forgot about Puck. :giggler: I'll fix him up with another Sim.

I was very disappointed to discover that the male sim I Dl'd from GoS doesn't make good looking children. I think it has to do with the fact that he has a custom head? His face does not look attractive on girls...at all. They all inherit it though. So, once again, I'm in a rut. All my male sims look the same. It doesn't help that the hair I used in TS3 is also a TS2 hair. Damn you Newsea. You and your irresistible hairstyle. :cry:

[eldavis]

Apparently it's possible for Cassandra Goth and Darren Dreamer to have a child with blonde hair...

Nevermind, it looks like that's just CC. I went to change her hairstyle and it says she has black hair. :blink:

[Babahara]

I didn't discover it "while playing TS2" as the topic title conveys, but...

Did you know that Circe is a name of an extremely cruel witch in Greek mythology? I think Maxis didn't fish out this name accidentally for Circe Beaker. She's known for her poisoning abilities and knowledge of magical plants. When she was wed to one of the kings she murdered him with poison and ascended to the throne, and then she ruled very cruelly until people rebelled and she was forced to flee.

There's also an episode in Odyssey with Circe. She turns all hero's companiona into pigs :)

[eldavis]

I've discovered that the Pleasant household is ridiculous. They're having full-on brawls with each other. :blink:

[Orilon]

I've discovered that the Pleasant household is ridiculous. They're having full-on brawls with each other. :blink:

Angela and Lilith are listed as enemies, so unless a player wants them to fight, they have to keep them apart or they will slap/poke/fight each other. I always try to keep them away from each other until they have decent enough grades to get the grade scholarship for college and put them in separate dorms.

[eldavis]

Angela and Lilith are listed as enemies, so unless a player wants them to fight, they have to keep them apart or they will slap/poke/fight each other. I always try to keep them away from each other until they have decent enough grades to get the grade scholarship for college and put them in separate dorms.

I don't have Uni. so I can't send 'em off to College. The problem was solved though...Lilith ran away... :cry:

[Honeywell]

I found out that if you innocently ask your sim to pat the ornamental reindeer, they'll manage to turn it into a life or death drama:OMG! I cloned that for a project because I liked the lighting effects...better rethink that!

[Peni Griffin]

It is possible to make friends out of enemies, but you'll have to micromanage them for awhile.

Don't worry, you'll figure it out. And runaways return...sometimes.

[eldavis]

I got her back and there's an apology fest going on with the two. :luff:

So, Daniel Pleasant is/was cheating on Mary-Sue with Kaylynn...They had a dream date and she came over with flowers and caught him and Mary-Sue woohoo-ing. She ran away and came back later with a TV and set it on the porch. :wtf:

[esmesqualor]

Angela and Lilith are listed as enemies, so unless a player wants them to fight, they have to keep them apart or they will slap/poke/fight each other. I always try to keep them away from each other until they have decent enough grades to get the grade scholarship for college and put them in separate dorms.

I tried putting them at separate colleges, but apparently students and dormies can roam about each others community lots. :faceslap:

[AlexandraSpears]

I can't stand cheating, so when Mary-Sue comes home after being demoted/fired, I typically have Daniel, heheh, comfort her and tick off Kaylynn.

I've also noticed that you have the same professors even if you associate all the universities.

[frankokomando]

I learned today that putting a grill in the house is bad. D: Instant fire.

[Orilon]

I got her back and there's an apology fest going on with the two. :luff:

So, Daniel Pleasant is/was cheating on Mary-Sue with Kaylynn...They had a dream date and she came over with flowers and caught him and Mary-Sue woohoo-ing. She ran away and came back later with a TV and set it on the porch. :wtf:

Apparently it really was a dream date if she was leaving post date gifts. Sims do that after a high scoring dream date.

[nikel23]

That queuing "tell dirty joke" while other interactions are on the queue will only make Sims do nothing. Also, BV gestures will always be thrown at the last of the queue!

[Aegagropilon]

I didn't discover it "while playing TS2" as the topic title conveys, but...

Did you know that Circe is a name of an extremely cruel witch in Greek mythology? I think Maxis didn't fish out this name accidentally for Circe Beaker. She's known for her poisoning abilities and knowledge of magical plants. When she was wed to one of the kings she murdered him with poison and ascended to the throne, and then she ruled very cruelly until people rebelled and she was forced to flee.

There's also an episode in Odyssey with Circe. She turns all hero's companiona into pigs :)

And Circe's husband Loki is named after the Norse trickster god :)

I have a feeling that Sim Loki's resemblence to this medieval depiction of the Norse Loki wasn't an accident, either:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj202/aegagropilon/MedievalLoki-1.jpg

[DrowningFishy]

I discovered the parents do not need to be home to adopt just so long as someone is home to watch the kids. XD

[smorbie1]

I learned that in CAS the sliders have names. I can't believe I didn't notice it before. I guess I was just too busy using them. Duh!

I also discovered that a person can be pelted to death by hail. Poor Davy Candy. He was such a pretty custom skin too.

[DrowningFishy]

That if you press C to capture screenshots to fast the flash will effect the pictures after it. Ah what I get for having a cute toddler born in game (to Circe Beaker no less).

[RebaLynnTS]

I discovered that alien toddlers (some any way) can float in the air while dancing to the stereo.

[Peni Griffin]

That - would be really cool. The only alien toddler I've had so far danced to the stereo all the time, but never floated.

I discovered that it can be a good thing to take an aspiration hit on a date! I had a teen go out with the boy she's been obsessing over since elementary school, running her with his wants closed to reflect the awkwardness of the first date. The first time she asked what he wanted, he said he wanted to be friends with the girl he just broke up with - a bad sign! Next time she asked, he wanted to eat out with her, so they did that; and then he wanted to sing a duet with her. Great; except she's very shy and had a fear of the karaoke machine! But his OTH is music and dance and he's been living it, so I decided, given the level of interest she had in him, that she would suck it up and sing with him. He took his aspiration gain, she took her hit (and was visibly uncomfortable; it was almost painful to watch), and the wants scrambled to flirt-kiss-backrub-makeout; so they did that for awhile and then, since the level wasn't quite at dream date and she wanted that, she asked what he wanted again. Photo booth picture - which was a -1,500 fear for her! But I like having photo booth pictures to put on walls and she was platinum, so she sucked it up again, got her dream date, did some more kissing etc. (some of it autonomous on his part!); and then I had her end the date as it was the wee hours of the morning. She complained about ending the date; and then after he left, autonomously got on the karaoke machine!

So I think she conquered that fear and she should be able to make money for the stuff she wants to buy, which her parents can't afford, by busking in the future.

[katya_stevens]

I discovered that alien toddlers (some any way) can float in the air while dancing to the stereo.

Shy sim by any chance? The game coding pulls in the "shy dance" for toddlers, but as none exists it pulls the adult (?) one instead, leaving the toddlers floating in the air. It's not limited (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Katya_Stevens/VDSL/204.jpg) to alien toddlers either (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Katya_Stevens/VDSL/204.jpg).

[Simsica]

Today I discovered that the OFB elevators break too much, and that when fixing one you have to fix the part of it that sparks and makes that annoying broken sound. Otherwise both the sparks&smoke and the sound will remain as if the thing isn't fixed.

[nikel23]

I found out that genie lamp delivery could be beneficial to a Sim but a loss to another. Genie lamp will be delivered to your household even if it's meant for your Sims' dormies, apartment tenants, roommates, or most annoyingly, lot visitors!

I played the Green household, and Lucy came to visit Chastity's daughter. Several Sim hours later, the Gypsy came to deliver the lamp. I checked every single household's memories, but none of them has it. It turns out I check Lucy's memory, and guess what? The lamp was meant for her!

[Aegagropilon]

That the SensoTwitch Lie-Finder career reward can break:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj202/aegagropilon/BrokenSensoTwitch.jpg

[MsScribble]

I learnt that if one simmie flushes the loo while another simmie is having a shower, said shower simmie will get scalded - i've been playing sims for a ridiculous number of years and I had no idea that happened! What's even more pathetic is that i find it so childishly funny that everytime this simmie has a shower I get his wife to run in and flush the loo - and giggle.

[LilSister]

Over the weekend I discovered that my sim Bertrum Cochran has the hidden skill of meditation. While on his weddingmoon after grooming the Zen Garden I had him meditate, and he levitated and disappeared! I thought something had happed to my game,..lol.

I also, learned that Santa will continue to hang around as long as his cookies are on the lot. I've had the holiday stuff pack and I've never used it beyond a few of the decorations, so I decided to have Christmas at the Cochran residence since it was winter. Gloria baked the cookies and before she could place the cookies on the counter I heard Santa upstairs, I was disappointed because I wanted to see how he entered (if he appeared or came down the chimmney-there are 3 fireplaces in the house). Anyway, perhaps because of how the tree was positioned, he left a gift "in the stairs" and proceeded downstairs to eat his cookies. Gloria and Bertrum went back to bed but Santa didn't leave. When Bertrum and Gloria woke up to get ready for work Santa was in the bathroom. I had to have Bertrum clean-up the cookie plate to get rid of Santa.

[Darby]

Over the weekend I discovered that my sim Bertrum Cochran has the hidden skill of meditation. While on his weddingmoon after grooming the Zen Garden I had him meditate, and he levitated and disappeared!

Any teen+ sim who's not too playful can meditate once they've got three logic skill points. Then, after about 50 cumulative hours of meditation, they gain the ability to teleport.

They don't normally spontaneously disappear while in meditation, though. Unless you clicked Teleport without realizing it, that was a glitch.

[LilSister]

Any teen+ sim who's not too playful can meditate once they've got three logic skill points. Then, after about 50 cumulative hours of meditation, they gain the ability to teleport.

They don't normally spontaneously disappear while in meditation, though. Unless you clicked Teleport without realizing it, that was a glitch.

Not a glitch before a sim learns to teleport when they reach a certain level in meditation the can disappear and reappear while levitating sometimes moving from one side of the Zen Garden to reappear on the other side. This is not the first time I've seen this. However, some sims as is this one have hidden skills, they are already advanced in certain areas. What surprised me is that this is the first time that Bertrum has meditated ever. Hidden Skills do not require the same amount of time spent working on a particular skill. His wife Gloria has maxed her logic skill is on stage 1 of meditating all she can do right now is breathe and make the hand movements.

[Peni Griffin]

I wasn't playing when I learned this. I was poking around in SimPE, and found that dead sims get memories for important family events - growing up well, good grades, getting engaged - that happened after their deaths! Jon Smith Tricou even knows which of his descendants has been on academic probation!

It's kind of touching.

They also seem to retain the wants and fears they died with. The ghost of Spring Thyme, a teen who died in a fire last rotation, wants to go steady with Tommy Ottomas and fears his death. Too bad by the time he can resurrect her (which is his plan at the moment) they'll be in different age categories and they'll fall out of love.

[Babahara]

Peni, in the sim world it must be true that sims watch over their loves ones from heaven :)

[Darby]

Not a glitch before a sim learns to teleport when they reach a certain level in meditation the can disappear and reappear while levitating sometimes moving from one side of the Zen Garden to reappear on the otheside.

I've had a looooot of experience with meditating sims (a handy skill during Apocalypse Challenges, which I've done a whole lot of), and have never had one spontaneously disappear. So I'm guessing this is something that happens specifically when they're meditating in the Zen Garden? I've never had a sim meditate in one. (Not many Zen Gardens exist in a post-apocalyptic world. :lol: )

[LilSister]

I've had a looooot of experience with meditating sims (a handy skill during Apocalypse Challenges, which I've done a whole lot of), and have never had one spontaneously disappear. So I'm guessing this is something that happens specifically when they're meditating in the Zen Garden? I've never had a sim meditate in one. (Not many Zen Gardens exist in a post-apocalyptic world. :lol: )



As I stated this is not a new occurance in my game, it was new for the sim in question. I can't say if it's something specific to the Zen Garden, however, it is the only place I've seen it happen. My sims often take vacations and I have a neighborhood Zen Garden. So perhaps this is an added benefit from Bon Voyage who knows, all I know is that I have a few sims who have this special skill. My sims who teleport learned to do so from the Ninja. Just when we think we've seen all Sims 2 has to offer there are still hidden surprises for us.

[Orilon]

I learned today that toddlers that are the same age can "Huggle" (that's what it said in the action queue):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Orilon/Adrianahuggle.jpg

The blond girl is Adriana Monty and the black haired boy is Christopher Monty and even though they don't look like it they are twins. I've never seen twins or other toddlers huggle before. (They are Romeo and Juliette's twins)

[AlexandraSpears]

I found out that if you direct a Sim living in a Greek house to sleep on the floor, their Energy totally bottoms out, and they pretty much pass out on the floor!

[Orilon]

I learned today that when two Sims are on a date, you have be careful about who you click.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Orilon/Bethjoke.jpg

I had sent Beth Monty (daughter of Antonio Monty and his second wife) on a date with Demetrius Summerdream (Titania and Oberon's son born in game). I meant to have Beth tell an inside joke to Demetrius, but Demetrius was standing next to an adult Desdemona Capp. Beth ended up telling a regular joke to Desdemona.

I'm just glad it was just a joke to Desdemona instead of something romantic to another guy.

[esmesqualor]

I had sent Beth Monty (daughter of Antonio Monty and his second wife) on a date with Demetrius Summerdream (Titania and Oberon's son born in game). I meant to have Beth tell an inside joke to Demetrius, but Demetrius was standing next to an adult Desdemona Capp. Beth ended up telling a regular joke to Desdemona.

lol - watch where you click is also true for that dang pie-chart. At the wedding party of my wealth Sim and Mr. Big, I tried to have Mr. Big talk to one of the guests - I ended up clicking flirt or kiss or something like that instead. :faceslap:

[Orilon]

lol - watch where you click is also true for that dang pie-chart. At the wedding party of my wealth Sim and Mr. Big, I tried to have Mr. Big talk to one of the guests - I ended up clicking flirt or kiss or something like that instead. :faceslap:

Uh oh, did he get slapped by your wealth Sim?


Back on topic: I also learned that if you give a Knowledge Sim a Family Secondary, he does the annoying "I'm Home" Family Sim dance when he gets home from work.

[AlexandraSpears]

You give ANY Sim Family as secondary, and they do the little dance when they get home!

[Alijah]

I THINK I may have been seeing things, but it seemed like today, my sim refused to use her toilet!

I had built a new little cottage for my self-sim. Like all sims, when she moved into the gutted building, some of her first wants were the basic, "buy a toilet," "buy a fridge," and so on. So I decorated her house and then moved back into live mode. She immediately got the want bonus for the items.

However, a few minutes later I realized that I didn't have a smoke alarm, and only 50-something dollars to my name! So I went back, deleted her expensive toilet, and purchased a cheaper one in order to buy the alarm. When I went back into live mode, she of course got hit with the penalty for selling the item back so soon.

I later directed her to use her new toilet and she walked into the bathroom, and then waved her arms in refusal, dropping the toilet from her queue! It happened so quick, Im not sure if I saw things correctly! But once I redirected her to use the toilet, she did so without any complaint.

I'll try to recreate this another time and see if I was correct!

[LilSister]

Back on topic: I also learned that if you give a Knowledge Sim a Family Secondary, he does the annoying "I'm Home" Family Sim dance when he gets home from work.

That used to drive me nuts too until I got Cyjons NoReturnHomeAnimations. Seriously who does that?

[Orilon]

That used to drive me nuts too until I got Cyjons NoReturnHomeAnimations. Seriously who does that?

Thank you so much. I had wondered a few times if someone had made a hack like that, but hadn't looked for it before.

[eldavis]

Sims temperatures rise when doing romantic interactions. :giggler:

[Bellasaurus]

Sims temperatures rise when doing romantic interactions. :giggler:

Well yeah.. Who gets cold when making out IRL? :rofl:

[nikel23]

As I stated this is not a new occurance in my game, it was new for the sim in question. I can't say if it's something specific to the Zen Garden, however, it is the only place I've seen it happen. My sims often take vacations and I have a neighborhood Zen Garden. So perhaps this is an added benefit from Bon Voyage who knows, all I know is that I have a few sims who have this special skill. My sims who teleport learned to do so from the Ninja. Just when we think we've seen all Sims 2 has to offer there are still hidden surprises for us.
As I know, Bon Voyage Zen Garden always allows Sims to levitate and teleport (only) from one end to another. And I assume it doesn't contribute Meditation skill, because after doing that, I commanded my Sim to meditate as usual, and he couldn't teleport.

[esmesqualor]

I learned that if your Sim toasts champagne with someone who hates them, they throw the champagne in their face.

[eldavis]

I've discovered that if you download CC requiring a mesh and forget the mesh, it shows up in the thumbnail as a red jacket, black pants, and tan boots. That might be seasons related though. I've also discovered that the hair's I downloaded that I thought weren't showing up were under the custom colors. :faceslap:

I'm gonna need to do a CC overhaul and I've only had the game for less than 2 full weeks!

I've also just recently come across the penguin that visits your yard in winter if you build a snowman. He also comes if you have a scarecrow :luff:

[eldavis]

Well yeah.. Who gets cold when making out IRL? :rofl:
Gives a whole new meaning to "hunk of burning love". Wonder if they would catch on fire if you managed to continue the actions over and over again.

[RebaLynnTS]

I've discovered that if you download CC requiring a mesh and forget the mesh, it shows up in the thumbnail as a red jacket, black pants, and tan boots. That might be seasons related though. I've also discovered that the hair's I downloaded that I thought weren't showing up were under the custom colors. :faceslap:

I'm gonna need to do a CC overhaul and I've only had the game for less than 2 full weeks!

I've also just recently come across the penguin that visits your yard in winter if you build a snowman. He also comes if you have a scarecrow :luff:

Hang a fish on the wall.

[Orilon]

My game glitched last night, and I learned that it takes all day to fix all the glitches in Sim PE found by the Hood Checker since I wanted to fix the glitches and make a clean back up before I started playing. It is astounding how much gunk Mootilda's Corruption Detector finds on the premade neighborhoods BEFORE they are played.

[Mootilda]

My game glitched last night, and I learned that it takes all day to fix all the glitches in Sim PE found by the Hood Checker since I wanted to fix the glitches and make a clean back up before I started playing. It is astounding how much gunk Mootilda's Corruption Detector finds on the premade neighborhoods BEFORE they are played.Just wait until I get at the Sims Wants and Fears! Mwha ha ha!

Tarlia has a wonderful set of pre-cleaned templates:
http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html#cutid1

[Orilon]

Just wait until I get at the Sims Wants and Fears! Mwha ha ha!

Tarlia has a wonderful set of pre-cleaned templates:
http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html#cutid1

Does that also include fixed genetics? (e.g is the missing skintone value on 99% of the Veronaville Sims and 97% of the Strangetown Sims actually filled in and Desdemona Capp actually has the genetic code for blonde and not black hair?)

[Darby]

Does that also include fixed genetics? (e.g is the missing skintone value on 99% of the Veronaville Sims and 97% of the Strangetown Sims actually filled in and Desdemona Capp actually has the genetic code for blonde and not black hair?)

If you're talking about Tarlia's cleaned neighborhood templates, then yes. You really should take a look at them. I'm not a modder, but it looks to me like she did an excellent job, confirmed by Mootilda who IS a modder and knows these things. :)

[AlexandraSpears]

Speaking of screwed-up genetics...in Bluewater Village, I found out that while Gilbert Jacquet has black hair, when I looked in SimPE I found that genetically he's a blond. I just change it to 1 for black and give him a 4 (red) for recessive since Denise was originally a redhead.

[Mootilda]

Tarlia has an extensive list of the changes that she made:
http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/29134.html#cutid1

Note that this list was for her earlier version, but the new version is based off of that one, but with more fixes and run though a pre-release version of the HoodChecker.

[LilSister]

I discovered that the Artic Santa Statue from the Festive Holiday Stuff Pack increases in value. I was removing christmas decor from sims home and noticed that the value had increased by $30. I'm going to check it again in 3 days to see if the value increases again.

[EmeraldFalcon]

I remember reading elsewhere on this site that all decorative objects can appreciate or depreciate in value every day. The value they change by has to do with the original price of the item, so something that original cost more stands to lose or gain more value.

[DrowningFishy]

That kids can be little sh-ts and kick over the trash can just before mommy throws the trash away; And do this more then once.

[MsScribble]

That sims have to actually be in a room before they can have the 'scope room' option.
Fair enough.

[eldavis]

That if you don't have lights in a house, your sim's environment bar will drop...I don't know how I managed to forget to put lights in a house. :faceslap:

[VioletPadfoot]

That if you don't have lights in a house, your sim's environment bar will drop...I don't know how I managed to forget to put lights in a house. :faceslap:
Don't feel too bad, I forget lights all the time when I build. Until 7pm hits and the house gets really dark. Perhaps we need a checklist: walls, floors, doors, windows, need fulfilling objects, skill building objects, decor, LIGHTS!

[Peni Griffin]

And wastebaskets. I always forget the darn wastebaskets!

I've had people "scope room" outside before, but I've only ever done it on community lots that were primarily outdoor venues, such as as parks. I don't know if that makes a difference.

[Orilon]

Don't feel too bad, I forget lights all the time when I build. Until 7pm hits and the house gets really dark. Perhaps we need a checklist: walls, floors, doors, windows, need fulfilling objects, skill building objects, decor, LIGHTS!

I second that. I also forget the lights when I build/completely remodel a house. Most of the time when 7pm rolls around my Sims are in complete darkness except for the light coming off the computer monitor.

[omglo]

That you can use the control pets cheat even if you don't have the Pets expansion. I used it to control the guests my Sim took on vacation.

[Darby]

I've had people "scope room" outside before, but I've only ever done it on community lots that were primarily outdoor venues, such as as parks. I don't know if that makes a difference.

Nope, outside is considered to be one big room, although I imagine if one used carpet dividers outdoors, you could have individual rooms outside, just like inside.

Funny thing is when you're giving the Headmaster a tour and show him the "room" that is outside, he'll "see" (and score) the whole yard, even he's in the front and all the environment-raising items are in back, out of line-of-sight.

[eldavis]

I've discovered that I can spend hours trying to "Victorian-ize" a bunch of Sims, only to realize the houses they are gonna be in aren't very historically accurate. Oh well. They'll just have to suck it up. I got them a freaking horse and carriage! There is far too much CC out there that suits my story line. All I need is some manly body hair. I miss my Generations body hair. :(

[LilSister]

I remember reading elsewhere on this site that all decorative objects can appreciate or depreciate in value every day. The value they change by has to do with the original price of the item, so something that original cost more stands to lose or gain more value.

Agreed, I was just sharing that the Artic Santa was one of those items.

[LilSister]

You can tell if your baby sim is going to be a real sloppy sim if they have flies when their diaper needs changing. I have a baby sim in a household of neatfreaks and noticed this. When I checked her out in SimPe she had 1 neat point. This is going to be interesting!

[Chocklitkiss]

Ummmmmmm......sims can RAP!!! Fo' real, tho!!

[Alijah]

I've discovered that I can spend hours trying to "Victorian-ize" a bunch of Sims, only to realize the houses they are gonna be in aren't very historically accurate. Oh well. They'll just have to suck it up. I got them a freaking horse and carriage! There is far too much CC out there that suits my story line. All I need is some manly body hair. I miss my Generations body hair. :(

There is a mod to give men body hair, which I believe can be found on Modthesims's adult-themed sister site.

[saskganesh]

You can tell if your baby sim is going to be a real sloppy sim if they have flies when their diaper needs changing. I have a baby sim in a household of neatfreaks and noticed this. When I checked her out in SimPe she had 1 neat point. This is going to be interesting!

It'll probably work out very well. Neat sims find cleaning FUN, so odds are that fly-baby will create opportunity for household happiness.

I have some successful marriages based on sloppy/neat sim pairings.

[Peni Griffin]

You may find that the parents get furious at kids who make messes sometimes, though. Don't worry; it doesn't last long. (My shy, neat Sage Ann and Ernest between them produced two rampantly outgoing boys, one of them a major slob. Never saw any flies on his diapers, though - they got changed too fast! And his brother routinely picks up after him.)

[lg135]

Competitive sims will get furious with anyone (including kids) as well. I've had a dad put his entire family on the silent treatment because he sucks at SSX and FIFA and is a sore loser (◔‿◔ )

[AlexandraSpears]

Sims roll wants for Harvest Good Produce. I had that want pop up for the first time a few days ago.

[eldavis]

Sims get really upset if they throw a shitty party. I threw a wedding party for Alexei and Elizabeth. The first time it was a success. I downloaded a replacement for the limo but it didn't work correctly and I had to reset them causing the party meter to reset as well. It happened 3 times so I deleted that piece of CC. They just stand there crying every so often. It's obnoxious.

[Peni Griffin]

I learned that the hula is every bit as insidious as the smustle in taking over (and tanking, if not brought under control) a party. Mary Munny, her grandson Mark, and Nannie Ghote are the only ones who learned it out of the four families I've sent to Twikkii Island so far, but they're infecting EVERYBODY!

I don't mind the gestures because they don't take up any time and I'm pretty mellow about that sort of thing; but I really thought the smustle was as bad as it got. At least hula doesn't seem to make people sweat as much.

[Aegagropilon]

You may find that the parents get furious at kids who make messes sometimes, though. Don't worry; it doesn't last long. (My shy, neat Sage Ann and Ernest between them produced two rampantly outgoing boys, one of them a major slob. Never saw any flies on his diapers, though - they got changed too fast! And his brother routinely picks up after him.)

Older siblings and any other sims that live in the house may get furious at kids who make messes as well, if they're neat.

When Difficult Subject was a toddler, her favorite toy (besides her adoring father) was the toilet. She could make a horrendous mess in no time flat. Her parents never got mad at her -- 0-neat-points Nervous didn't care and 4-points-neat Frieda had long since accepted that a little bit of dirt never killed anyone -- but it bugged the bejeebers out of her 10-points-neat older brother Test. He'd mop up the puddle and get furious at her... but since he's also 10-points-nice, it'd never last long and he'd still snuggle her and play with her no matter what.

[RowenaLupin]

I discovered that when Sims go to make a bed, even if they're a MILE away, and you cancel that action out they will NOT stop, even if something else is cued up. They will defiantly go make that bed... it drives me bonkers.

[yasmine0615]

To never turn your Sims into zombies.

[Orilon]

I discovered that when Sims go to make a bed, even if they're a MILE away, and you cancel that action out they will NOT stop, even if something else is cued up. They will defiantly go make that bed... it drives me bonkers.

That is why abortbedmaking (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/samples/ts2/index.php?dir=al%2Fhacks%2F look for abortbedmaking) is one of my favorite mods by Pescado.

From the Read Me File:
"Tired of Sims suddenly going into an obsessive-compulsive bed-making spree that
you can't stop even if you X it out well before they get to the bed because
they suddenly got this pointless urge from across the room? This hack makes
"Make Bed" abortable like everything else, so if you X it out before they
begin, the behavior will cease. No longer will your Sims waste an hour making
the bed and miss work. Who the hell actually does this, anyway? You're just
gonna sleep in it again."


Edit: Since no one posted after me, I figured I better Edit this to share what I just learned:

I learned that using Sim PE to mark Bella Goth as a ghost has interesting consequences (She has a "I am Dead" memory, so it made sense to me to mark her as ghost)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Orilon/Alexfear.jpg

Mortimer was fearing the death of Cassandra and Alexander but the fears rolled away before I could get Fraps going.

[eldavis]

It's a bad idea to go on a downloading spree when you are tired. I downloaded 50+ bedding recolors.

Sims also seem to have an insatiable urge to either jump in or mop up puddles of rain water. It may have to do with their personalities though. Neat sims or playful sims.

[Alijah]

To never turn your Sims into zombies.

Zombies are the one life state that I refuse to allow in my game. They just creep me out. The weird, dead eyes, the hollow cheeks and slouching jaw, along with that awful, dragging gait... *shudders*

Never!

[DrowningFishy]

Zombies are the one life state that I refuse to allow in my game. They just creep me out. The weird, dead eyes, the hollow cheeks and slouching jaw, along with that awful, dragging gait... *shudders*

Never!

I keep trying they just never turn. :help: Man everyone else gets to have all the creepy fun.

[VioletPadfoot]

I keep trying they just never turn. :help: Man everyone else gets to have all the creepy fun.

My only zombies are from a hack for alien abductions that lets other things besides male pregnancy happen. Like zombieism and plantisimism and every other -ism in the game. And only b/c I was testing the hack to see if it was actually working.

[Aegagropilon]

I keep trying they just never turn. :help: Man everyone else gets to have all the creepy fun.

To get a zombie, you pay the Reaper between §998 and §4127 on the bone phone. It only works for teens, young adults, adults, and elders, though.

Children are always resurrected normally; there are no child zombies (though I'm sure hacks exist!).

:call:

[AlexandraSpears]

I never played zombies, but I wonder what would happen if you aged a zombie down to child....

[Peni Griffin]

OMG, Goz and Kitty Hawkins classic danced, even though they're elders!?!

I didn't tell them to - they've wanted to repeatedly since Goz aged, and I couldn't get the interaction. But I was letting them amuse themselves (i.e. spontaneously canoodle, which is always their fallback activity) while I dealt with the teens and newlyweds, and there they were. I assumed it was a slow dance at first, since the two dances are visually almost identical, but as my cursor passed over Kitty's thumbnail in the corner the words "classic dance" popped out at me.

This bit of discriminatory coding now makes even less sense to me than it did, but - hey, they did it, they liked it, I'm happy. Their daughter is less so, since they were dancing on the back porch and blocked her way to her boyfriend, but she'll survive.

[zauberlinda12]

Not sure if this happens during any other season but I heard the haunting sound of a night owl's calls during a winter night.

My sim was looking through the expensive telescope (I was trying to make the alien spaceship appear) when out of nowhere I heard 3 distinctive "hoot-hoot"s. I actually panned around her lot to see if an owl was perched in one of her trees :)

[Orilon]

Out of curiosity, I've been playing some of the Académie Le Tour pre-made college sims. When Mitch Indie called up Delilah O' Feefe to go downtown I had her go to make some friends because she only has a relationship with two people the first time she's played.

I had her scope room because was curious if she had chemistry with anyone. Even though I got the pop up that "Mitch is Hot" when I checked her relationship panel she had negative chemistry with him.

Uh, why would she think he's hot when they have Negative Chemistry?

[AlexandraSpears]

Out of curiosity, I've been playing some of the Académie Le Tour pre-made college sims. When Mitch Indie called up Delilah O' Feefe to go downtown I had her go to make some friends because she only has a relationship with two people the first time she's played.

I had her scope room because was curious if she had chemistry with anyone. Even though I got the pop up that "Mitch is Hot" when I checked her relationship panel she had negative chemistry with him.

Uh, why would she think he's hot when they have Negative Chemistry?

Maybe he has some features that are turn-ons for her. But their personalities must really clash, because Mitch is Family and Delilah is Knowledge.

[Orilon]

Maybe he has some features that are turn-ons for her. But their personalities must really clash, because Mitch is Family and Delilah is Knowledge.

I haven't played Mitch's household, so I couldn't remember if he or his roommate were the Family sim. Delilah seems to have some ridiculous turn ons, so I don't know if she will be able to find anyone. I may have to go into Sim PE and change them. I checked Sim Wikki and if the info is right Delilah is Cancer and Mitch is Libra. I don't know much about astrology, but from your response, I'm guessing those signs cancel out any possible turn ons.

[AlexandraSpears]

I think Cancer is attracted to Libra off the top of my head. Someone may have some turn-offs.

Max Flexor is the Popularity Sim, Mitch is the Family Sim (never played them but had a peek at their household).

[Orilon]

I think Cancer is attracted to Libra off the top of my head. Someone may have some turn-offs.

Max Flexor is the Popularity Sim, Mitch is the Family Sim (never played them but had a peek at their household).

I really don't want to play their household because I hate popularity Sims, but I took a peek to see what was up with Mitch's turn ons and turn offs. His turn off is unemployed and his turn ons are brown or gray hair. Sim chemistry is weird. He has negative chemistry with Delilah, but has one bolt with Dina Caliente. (Dina showed up at the park when I sent Delilah downtown with Mitch and his "outing")

[aaries16]

I don't mind the gestures because they don't take up any time and I'm pretty mellow about that sort of thing; but I really thought the smustle was as bad as it got. At least hula doesn't seem to make people sweat as much.

If you think smustle and hula are bad, wait til they start slap dancing.

[Darby]

Sim chemistry is weird. He has negative chemistry with Delilah, but has one bolt with Dina Caliente. (Dina showed up at the park when I sent Delilah downtown with Mitch and his "outing")

Sim chemistry is really pretty easy to predict, when you know aspiration and zodiac compatibility. Aside from incompatible turn-ons/turn-offs your Delilah and Mitch have, they should be a good pair with Knowledge/Family, Cancer/Libra combos both going for them. (Libra likes Cancer; Cancer is neutral toward Libra.)

So, the fact that they have negative chemistry may have to do with relationship status. Some sims get off on the wrong foot (not sure how/why this happens) and start with negative chemistry, but when they get to know each other better, it goes up.

As for changing turn-ons/turn-offs, there are MUCH quicker, easier ways to do it than with SimPE. In-game, there's the Renu-U Senso Orb. The Lot Debugger or Sim Blender can also be used, and there's at least one buyable ReNuYu potion (http://parsimonious.org/furniture2/modded/k8-Panacea.shtml) available as well.

[Orilon]

I gave up on Mitch and Delilah but here's look at her relationship panel the beginning of Sophmore year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Orilon/Delilah.jpg

As for what I learned, Edwin Sharpe doesn't look too bad once he loses the pudge and gets a make over.

[Darby]

Weird. Must be the TOs/TOs, but they shouldn't override compatible aspirations and zodiac signs. Oh well. Just one of those headscratchers. :)

[frankokomando]

Eh, not really something I discovered today while playing the sims, but I'm beginning to learn I can't build a decent house to safe my life xD All of sims live in squares.

[Orilon]

More Delilah weirdness:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Orilon/Delilah2.jpg

Now that she is an adult and has a job, she no longer fits Mitch's unemployed turn off, but that is making me concerned about what will happen when Edwin finds a job since one of her turn ons is unemployment. Oi.

I also never noticed this before but sometimes Sims play Christmas music when they are practicing piano.

[lizard49]

My self-Sim is a member of the nature hobby lot, Peerless Park. Today she was visiting Woodland Park in Pleasantview & knelt down on the sidewalk to smell the flowers.

[Peni Griffin]

Edwin doesn't have to find a job, you know...If I want two sims to max their love, and something's off in their turn-ons and turn-offs, I change it, usually with the potion. All teens who grew up in game get one and only some of them need it, so there's usually someone who can give it to the affected sim as a gift; if not, the orb isn't that expensive.

The trick is to pick the turn-ons and turn-offs that will keep on giving through the years; or to be prepared to play the consequences of somebody losing a quality that their spouse finds attractive.

[Darby]

that is making me concerned about what will happen when Edwin finds a job since one of her turn ons is unemployment. Oi.

Well, you could make Edwin work from home. OR you could change her TOs/TOs to something that works better for you/them. I never keep a sim's default TOs/TOs if they don't suit me. ;)

[Orilon]

Edwin doesn't have to find a job, you know...If I want two sims to max their love, and something's off in their turn-ons and turn-offs, I change it, usually with the potion. All teens who grew up in game get one and only some of them need it, so there's usually someone who can give it to the affected sim as a gift; if not, the orb isn't that expensive.

The trick is to pick the turn-ons and turn-offs that will keep on giving through the years; or to be prepared to play the consequences of somebody losing a quality that their spouse finds attractive.

I'm considering changing that Turn on of hers. That was one of the Turn Ons she came with the first time I played Académie Le Tour, but since it looks like it may affect her chemistry with her husband, I'm trying to figure out one that won't.

I usually try to fill Sims LTWs and since Edwin's is being the top of the Entertainment career I am trying to find him a job in the Entertainment career.

[Darby]

I just realized that a turn-on for the unemployed won't necessarily negatively affect chemistry if Edwin gets a job. It just won't have a positive effect on chemistry either. It would be a problem if she had a turn-off for employed sims, but since that's not what we're looking at...

So, you may not actually need to change anything, unless that one turn-on is tipping the balance in favor of current chemistry, and that's not likely unless they're only barely compatible as it is, with regard to aspirations and zodiac signs.

On the other hand, if they're at two bolts now, changing the TOs/TOs of each to match the other in all cases will probably put them at three bolts. :)

[Orilon]

I just realized that a turn-on for the unemployed won't necessarily negatively affect chemistry if Edwin gets a job. It just won't have a positive effect on chemistry either. It would be a problem if she had a turn-off for employed sims, but since that's not what we're looking at...

So, you may not actually need to change anything, unless that one turn-on is tipping the balance in favor of current chemistry, and that's not likely unless they're only barely compatible as it is, with regard to aspirations and zodiac signs.

On the other hand, if they're at two bolts now, changing the TOs/TOs of each to match the other in all cases will probably put them at three bolts. :)

Edwin finally found a job in the Entertainment career, and they are still at two bolts. I'm going to leave it as is unless something comes up down the road.

I may be weird, but if I have three bolt couples I change their turn ons/turn offs so they change to two bolts. Three bolt couples drive me up the wall.

I just learned how getting to the to of the Entertainment Career is a little against Edwin's personality. He needed Charisma points for his job, but when I told him to "Practice Speech" in the mirror to get the Charisma points, he walked up the stairs slumped like I told him to face a firing squad. Ugh.

[Aegagropilon]

I've seen sims roll fears for other sims to get sprayed by the skunk, but today was the first time I've seen a sim roll a want for other sims to get skunked :lol:

[DrowningFishy]

I have two identical sims in every way except one has black alien eyes one has brown human eyes, one has Circe's tan skin, the other is as pale. Other then that they both have faces closer to the look of their dads, Circe's eye brows, and they both have alien noses. AH an obvious lesson in how Sims genetics work because these two defently demistrate how things can be inherited.

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h462/DrowningDaFishy/twins.jpg

Oh if your wondering about Joiyce and Lilly's dad look for Sun in the creativity section.

Also I learned teens can tuck in children (not toddlers children).

[Aegagropilon]

DrowningFishy: Your non-identical clones are awesome -- and they don't look nearly as Voldemortastic as their dad XD I had something similar happen with Chester and Stella's sons Aldous and Edgar: they look exactly alike, except they have different eyebrows and different personalities.


Oh, and I discovered that while Olive may not have gotten sick at all while pregnant, she turns into the vomit express when she has food poisoning. You'd think carrying the Grim Reaper's offspring would be rougher on the body than some spoiled poptarts, but Olive is full of surprises :P

[DrowningFishy]

Oh, and I discovered that while Olive may not have gotten sick at all while pregnant, she turns into the vomit express when she has food poisoning. You'd think carrying the Grim Reaper's offspring would be rougher on the body than some spoiled poptarts, but Olive is full of surprises :P

Yeah I discovered each sim is differnt when it comes to food poisening and babies. I have had some females with iron stomachs who could eat bad food, and/or be pregnant and never throw up. Other times I can also get sims that are like vomit factory's.


On the off not sadly -_- does not look like his father. Unlike Voldamort he's still cute and adorable as a teen. :cry: Sun dieded on me today, no more dances wtih the lampshade for me.

-EDIT-

If you start a house fire if your pet is close enough no matter how attached it is to the family it might just bolt out the door and never return. That cat was a doofus stray anyways that wouldn't be trained, but still ::sigh::

[esmesqualor]

That if a Sim makes a snowman and then breaks up with his sweetie, his former sweetie will gleefully attack and destroy the snowman.

[Bellasaurus]

Sim chemistry is really pretty easy to predict, when you know aspiration and zodiac compatibility. Aside from incompatible turn-ons/turn-offs your Delilah and Mitch have, they should be a good pair with Knowledge/Family, Cancer/Libra combos both going for them. (Libra likes Cancer; Cancer is neutral toward Libra.)

Cyjon has done an in-depth study of sims chemistry - http://drupal.cyjon.net/node/86

I find it really useful when searching for perfect mates for my sims.

[AlexandraSpears]

The trick is to pick the turn-ons and turn-offs that will keep on giving through the years; or to be prepared to play the consequences of somebody losing a quality that their spouse finds attractive.

Totally agree. Like hair color. They get old, it gets gray. So I try to pick traits like great cook, creative...basically skill-based. Someone who finds red hair attractive will probably find their spouse not quite so attractive once they age to elder.

I've had couples where a turn-on is glasses...when they're in bed sleeping and the glasses are off, it goes down to two bolts...when they're dressed and the glasses are back on, it's back up to three. :rolleyes:

[Peni Griffin]

I had a heck of a time once with a couple that really like each other, but they both had a turn-on for hats and would go down to one bolt when properly dressed for intimate relations! I finally changed turn-ons for both of them (but they still wear hats because I got used to them that way and they'd look wrong without them).

[Orilon]

I had a heck of a time once with a couple that really like each other, but they both had a turn-on for hats and would go down to one bolt when properly dressed for intimate relations! I finally changed turn-ons for both of them (but they still wear hats because I got used to them that way and they'd look wrong without them).


That is why I always change it when a Sim has a underwear turn off, because when they strip down to their underwear or less depending on their ACR preference, the bolt count always drops.

[Cyjon]

Sims can use "read to sleep" on teens, and you don't have to be a relative or even have a particularly good relationship to do it. I have an asylum property and one of the patients is a teenage girl. Every single time she goes to sleep, this one creepy old guy hustles over to read her to sleep. It's really disturbing.

[eldavis]

Left clicking on a Sims portrait makes the camera follow that sim. You have no idea how happy I was when I figured that out.

There's also a townie named Oliver Phelps...too bad he looks nothing like the actor. (For those too lazy to google/aren't HP fans: He played George Weasley in the films.)

[AlexandraSpears]

Sims can roll a want for Have Family Reunion.

I had Gabe O'Mackey roll that want...I figured, he and Alexandra needed to throw an anniversary party anyway...so I had them invite everyone they were related to! Basically Jules, her daughter, her twin brothers, her cousins...just about the entire O'Mackey clan!

[sing4love44]

It's probably the result of a mod or combination of mods that I have, but my sims frequently have the memory of falling in love with themselves

[eldavis]

Curtains don't actually block any light from coming inside...WTF.

In that big house downtown there are coffins in the basement! It's looking more and more perfect for my vampire sim.

[nikel23]

I found that some Aspiration Benefit descriptions contain typos! Massive Attraction, Fast Friends, and Bottomless Stomach in particular. They wrote "with" as "wth", "than" twice, and "Sim" in lower case.

Go check it out. EAXis fails. :-/

[esmesqualor]

I never noticed that parents could snuggle their children - I thought that was only for infants and toddlers. Way cute.

[Darby]

In that big house downtown there are coffins in the basement! It's looking more and more perfect for my vampire sim.

I've never played that house myself, but I suspect it looks better than it plays. Those coffins are so deep down, it'll be a bit of a pain to navigate.

It is an interesting house, though, with a lot of history (http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/House_of_Fallen_Trees) behind it. This thread (http://www2.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=331702) might also interest you. (I haven't read that thread, and there may be better ones out there somewhere, but that's what a quick Google search revealed.) :)

[Peni Griffin]

I could tell by looking at the House of Fallen Trees that certain elements would drive me crazy and were also driving up the cost of the house to no good purpose. So when it appeared that Tricou descendent Lora Wolosenko was going to be able to fulfill her dream of buying back the old family estate after she got married, I went in and shallowed the heck out of that basement, grunged up the walls and floors, and reconfigured some of the rooms to deal with obvious problems. The family (Lora, her husband, two of her half-siblings, a former roommate, and a gestating bastard, in the family tradition) moved in with only about a hundred dollars to spare plus the stuff in their inventories. Only played it one day so far, and spent most of it fighting off the case of flu one of the half-siblings picked up. Nobody's been to the basement, (where I left the coffins; they seem required) and nobody's seen a ghost yet. But I have hopes. I think one of the half-siblings will try to set up a home beauty salon in that big front room, just because I haven't played with the OFB stuff at all yet.

One thing I learned by reading up ahead of time is, that it will always be too dim in that house, however many lights I invest in.

[Orilon]

I've never played that house myself, but I suspect it looks better than it plays. Those coffins are so deep down, it'll be a bit of a pain to navigate.


I've never had a sim with enough money to buy it (its 85 thousand something Simoleons) but I've looked at it in build mode out of curiosity. I never was able to get very deep in the basement to see the coffins so I didn't know they were there until the person posted about it. It looks like it would be a pain in the rear to play, so I don't think it's a loss to not have the money to buy it.

As for what I've learned, Sims can slide down the banister. I'm not sure if its Angela and Lilith Pleasant's high playful or Active points but I've seen both slide down the banister in the Pleasant house instead of walking down the stairs.

[DrowningFishy]

I discovered if a Sim has nothing better to do it will randomly snooze, not nap, on a non living room chair. I learned this while Queen was in the chair learning to lie and her sister sat down in the chair and after awhile I wondered where Lilly was. Sure enough she was snoozing on the chair her health bar not full but not moving either and everythign else in the green. XD I regret not getting a snapshot it was so funny.

[eldavis]

I never was able to get very deep in the basement to see the coffins so I didn't know they were there until the person posted about it. It looks like it would be a pain in the rear to play, so I don't think it's a loss to not have the money to buy it.


I was curious about the basement so I went and put the camera in top-down mode, that's how I saw them. It's a pretty awesome house, other than the basement. For some reason my human sim kept going down to the basement and sleeping in the coffin. :faceslap:

I may have to take out all the stairs and the coffins and copy the house to the library. Is that possible? Or am I still confusing TS2 features with TS3 features?

[Darby]

Coffins seem to "advertise" strongly, which can really be a hassle. There are mods to keep non-vampires from using them autonomously. (I don't remember if I actually have one myself, and it's been awhile since I had a vampire.)

Just so you know, coffins are over-rated for vamps anyway. Having vampires meditate during the day tends to be safer, because vampires may leave their coffins for various reasons, but there's not much that will knock one out of meditation.

[esmesqualor]

I may have to take out all the stairs and the coffins and copy the house to the library. Is that possible?

I don't see why not, but every time I've tried my computer crashed.

Oh yeah - for all the times I've had toddlers and nannies, I never knew a toddler could influence the nanny to do things - like, "Get off my mom's barre and make yourself useful. Go clean the house."

[eldavis]

It worked. Took me a bit of time to level the basement but I did it. I changed the siding and it actually looks adorable.

I'm going to have to try out the influencing the nanny tactic. Sounds like too much fun!

Sims seem to be rather tone deaf. I sent one of my Sims on a date with a townie I aged down to teen and she wanted to sing a duet. It was awful...My ears are still bleeding from it.

[lg135]

I learned that when a stray gets stuck and tries to leave the lot and cannot, it takes its frustration out on whoever's at home. Case in point -- Alia somehow got herself stuck on the side of the fence that completely blocks off the back of the lot (Wanted the family to live in front of a "makeshift forest" if you will), and when all her motives went down and she tried to leave and couldn't, she kept getting the Declining Relationship sign over her head. I made her selectable and it seems every time she tried to leave and failed the more she grew to hate all the sims that were at home -- the mother and father were at -100/-100 and the kids that had just came home were at -25/-13!

[Darby]

Sims seem to be rather tone deaf. I sent one of my Sims on a date with a townie I aged down to teen and she wanted to sing a duet. It was awful...My ears are still bleeding from it.

:lol:
Not to worry. They get a lot better at it as their creativity skill increases.

[cheshirekat]

I made all the pre-made Uni students at Sim State drop out without graduating. Only one I let graduate was Jane Stacks. Most of the boys moved into a lot together. The girls got their own lot. I use the pre-made sims as employees for my businesses.

Today, I decided to check out what the boys would be up to, so I played them a while after I finished with a little remodeling of their house. I don't care that much about these sims because they just annoy me and most are very lazy slobs. So I decided to just watch them after they ate supper with 6 townies on their lot visiting.

Most of the guys kept busy after supper cleaning up the dishes of their guests.

Jared Starchild decided it was a good time to eat out of the rubbish bin. Because I hate sloppy sims, the sims I create usually have at least 4 neat points. In Uni, I didn't know just how much a slob Jared was - I was too busy planning on staggering the dropouts. The sims that weren't in class had to go fishing or work the garden, so I really micromanaged them.

Letting the full household of boys do whatever they wanted for a change, I found it amusing to see Jared eating out of the trash ALL night. He got started when he was cleaning supper dishes and didn't stop until 4 in the morning. I had no idea sims would eat of the trash for so long! Honestly, he wasn't hungry since they had just finished eating and his hunger bar was maxed. I wonder if he will be sick after eating trash tomorrow morning. It would be interesting if he got sick and infected the entire house.

Then they could all die. Giving me some pre-made amusement.

I can hope.

Several times I crossed off the "eat from trash" action from Jared's queue but New actions I gave him were cancelled and replaced with the eat from trash option. When all the other guys were in bed I queued a bunch of actions for Jared and he finally stopped digging in the trash. By that time, nearly all his needs were in the red. Except hunger, of course. I sent him to the restroom to clean up for bed, fully expecting him to pass out before making it to bed.

[DrowningFishy]

If you double click on a neighborhood you can bybass the confirm screen.

[VioletPadfoot]

If you double click on a neighborhood you can bybass the confirm screen.

same goes for lots too. though if unoccupied, you have to be in the "lots and houses" tab.

[MsScribble]

I've never once seen The House of Fallen Trees. I keep meaning to, but I always forget.

I learnt that sims don't mind showering in front of Santa.

[Aegagropilon]

That it doesn't matter how high the STR is -- and if they're friends! -- as long as the LTR is in the negatives the shoving and rage will continue :faceslap:

Howitzer really and truly is General Buzz's son, 10 nice points be damned. (As if his feud with Jane Smith wasn't indication enough.) I'm starting to get really tired of babysitting his stealth-grouch butt during all this, to keep him from setting off the war again.

Sims :rolleyes:

[eldavis]

I've learned that having a poker table at a wedding party is an awesome idea. You actually earn money! At least, my Sims did. I've also realized that TS2 gardening is super frustrating. It takes ages. Sure, it's more realistic than TS3 gardening, but I'm impatient.

[saskganesh]

It worked. Took me a bit of time to level the basement but I did it. I changed the siding and it actually looks adorable.



Good work. I have a vampire clan living there, consisting of 3 vampires, 1 former vampire, one vampire sympathiser and now 2 non-vampire children. That basement is cool and atmospheric and it takes some mouse or keyboard fu to be able to swoop in and zoom to make that area playable.

If a vampire is walking up the stairs it takes about a game hour to get to the main floor. Flying is faster, but there is only that one long stairway, and even then, the vampires sometimes complain about the path being blocked. And if there is a toddler in the house, they sometimes hang out at the top of the stairwell, wanting to reach mummy vamp downstairs, confusing the pathfinding even more.

I got to try messing with the layout like you have. IMO, easier gameplay is the most important aspect of house design.

The detached garage in the back is also a bit of an issue. I think it might be better to remove it and replace with a short driveway for the vampire's trusty beater. This would make it faster to get to the car and stop confusing the paperboy and other visitors who act as if the garage is the front door

Other notes: Lots of ghosts in the backyard, though they have never come into the house. As for lighting, it is a dark house by default and so I use minimal lighting ... I think it adds to creepiness. Most rooms lack electricity. And unlike other houses, the stereo is usually off... the usual ambient sound is footsteps. And bat squeaks. Followed up by a Bleh or two. Good times!

[Peni Griffin]

Eldavis, you'll find that once they get that first garden badge, it becomes much less frustrating. Also, don't give gardens to sims who don't have the time to take care of them!

[Darby]

Regarding gardens, in the beginning, my sims' gardens were too big. These days, I don't go over 12 plots, and often keep it to just six. Unless you're growing food to sell to other sims, 6-12 plots is more than enough to keep a family in fresh food and juice.

Fruit trees are the hardest food plants to keep healthy. They need to be watched closely, and the quicker they're tended to when they need it, the better they do. I wouldn't recommend having more than three (one of each type, or whatever combo meets your sims' needs) in the beginning. Once there's a sim with a gold gardening badge who can Talk to them, more will be easier to handle.

Also, as Peni said, if a family's garden is going to be of any significant size, it's a good idea to have a family member with lots of time on his/her hands who can make the garden their priority. :)

[eldavis]

I've discovered that it seems to be impossible to run TS2 in windowed mode when launched through origins main thing (not the legacy login screen. I'm having issues with that at the moment. Currently waiting for someone to be available on origins live help. They take longer to connect to than Dell does, but at least they've been helpful when I've had to deal with them. Unlike Dell...Why isn't there an angry face emoticon?) :cry: It's a pain in the butt to play full screen. Especially since alt-tab doesn't seem to work with TS2.

[AlexandraSpears]

Sims sleeping in side-by-side recliners apparently talk to each other in their sleep, because I see their Social motive getting greener.

[Darby]

Especially since alt-tab doesn't seem to work with TS2.

Alt-Tab works fine with TS2. Perhaps you have a keyboard setting that needs tweaking, or something?

[eldavis]

Maybe. I talked to someone from Origin and he said I need to uninstall and re-install seasons to fix my launcher issues. I'll check my key settings for future reference though.

I wasn't aware that Sims sleep-talk. I do that in real life. Apparently I curse in my sleep. :giggler:

[VioletPadfoot]

I wasn't aware that Sims sleep-talk. I do that in real life. Apparently I curse in my sleep. :giggler:

I sleep talk too apparently. My sister will watch TV while I sleep, and says that I laugh at the funny parts and talk to it too. Multiple times she's had to check if I was really asleep.

As to discoveries: I've discovered that the loading screen for lots annoy me. I just got Sims 3 and am really liking the open play design and not getting all those excess hours in the day by going to a community lot. I however still love playing my sims 2.

[lg135]

I learned just how bad a sim will jilt you for calling them when they're sleep.

Had a sim go to the park at 6am so he could go on a date with his girlfriend. I called her at 6:55 because I had forgotten it was still technically "dark" (new camera lighting ftw!) and so got chewed out, of course. I call her back at 7 and she agrees to come, but when she does, she greets him with a "kiss kiss" instead of her usual smooch/glomp. I make her selectable and her 100/100 for him had dropped down to a 50/100~! I knew the relationship score would take a hit, but damn, that's a big hit! >: /

[eldavis]

I'll definitely be more careful when calling sims. That's slightly ridiculous.

[smorbie1]

I'll definitely be more careful when calling sims. That's slightly ridiculous.

I think so, too. We should take that up with Eaxis. :lol:

Last night I dreamt that EA decided to come out with one more EP because of the popularity of sims 2. It was going to be called New York Minute. I have no idea what would have been in the EP, but I really love the song :rofl:

[eldavis]

I discovered it is possible to have fraternal twins in the sims 2. I mean, a boy and a girl. I don't believe that it is possible to have them in TS3 without cheats. I was surprised to see that she was having twins. No cheats or anything. Does anyone know what the default likelihood of a sim giving birth to twins is?

[Charmful]

I discovered it is possible to have fraternal twins in the sims 2. I mean, a boy and a girl. I don't believe that it is possible to have them in TS3 without cheats. I was surprised to see that she was having twins. No cheats or anything. Does anyone know what the default likelihood of a sim giving birth to twins is?

I've had about 40 in-game births without any cheats and five have come out twins, 3 boy-boy and 2 boy-girl combos. So my game 1 in every 8 renders twins and I'm surprised every time!

[Peni Griffin]

According to the gameplay guide here on the site (a useful resource with which we should all be familiar), the probability for twins is between 5% and 10% per birth; higher if a parent is a twin; and of course higher yet if the parent has the Superfertility aspiration benefit. If the mother eats cheesecake (OFB) during the pregnancy, it's a guarantee. I'm not sure whether the uncertainty in the exact amount of the chance is the result of that bit of code being inaccessible, so that it's necessary to reverse engineer the probability from the number of multiple births across a large number of games; of whether there's an additional level of randomness built into the random number generator determining the matter - which would be an odd thing for the people who gave us Firstborn System to do, but the ways of programmers are mysterious, especially if they have supervisors breathing down their necks, are dealing with office politics, or work in isolation from other coders on related projects. (I have no idea what it was like to work on the Sims2 development team, but I've worked in plenty of offices, and all those contingencies are likely to the point of certainty.)

It would also surprise me a great deal if there were no chance of mixed-sex sets of twins in Sims3, but I was shocked to find out they had no storytelling tool, so you can't go by me.

http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Pregnancy

Pedantry Alert.
BTW, without a mod ALL sims pregnancies are fraternal, since the term only means that they came from two eggs separately inseminated, rather than from a single egg that split after insemination, which is how identical twins happen. Meaning that regardless of gender, all non-identical twins are fraternal, and no sims twins are identical due to the same mechanism that makes so many sims of different ages clones of each other.

[Darby]

I discovered it is possible to have fraternal twins in the sims 2. I mean, a boy and a girl. I don't believe that it is possible to have them in TS3 without cheats. I was surprised to see that she was having twins. No cheats or anything. Does anyone know what the default likelihood of a sim giving birth to twins is?

Actually, all Sims 2 twins are fraternal. Even in the extremely rare cases where they look exactly the same, it's completely coincidental, because physical characteristics (as well as gender and personality) are generated separately for each child.

I don't know what the default chances are, and to hear people talk, it the incidence of natural twins seems to vary widely from game to game. In my game, they're not super common, but I wouldn't call them rare either. I could be wildly off, but I'd venture to estimate maybe one birth out of... 10-12 are natural twins.

Are you aware of the cheesecake phenomenon? If a pregnant sim eats cheesecake at any point during her (or his :lol:) pregnancy, twins will be the result. We call these "cheesecake twins".

[katya_stevens]

According to the gameplay guide here on the site (a useful resource with which we should all be familiar), the probability for twins is between 5% and 10% per birth; higher if a parent is a twin; and of course higher yet if the parent has the Superfertility aspiration benefit.

There is also what's known as a "pregnancy token" -- an invisible memory linked to a sim which increases the chance of natural twins (it's called "Pregnancy - Token Modifier" if you look in a sim's memories in SimPE). It's an easy way to see if a sim of yours will give you a higher chance of natural twins; I only started to look when one of my sims got hit by risky woohoo three times and had twins two out of those three (yup, she had the pregnancy token).

Edit:

no sims twins are identical due to the same mechanism that makes so many sims of different ages clones of each other.

Theoretically you can get identical twins -- all it requires is for the two sims to get the same genetic roll without being a result of first-born syndrome; and I know I've had my share of twins (or more) who were almost identical save for one facial feature -- but I've never seen anyone having completely identical (facial structure, hair/eye colour and same sex) twins (or more).

[Orilon]

Even if the Family sim just gave birth and doesn't have a want for a baby, she'll try for baby the next time ACR kicks in and get pregnant right away. I should have turned on birth control but too late now.

I haven't played Pleasantview for awhile so I forgot how much of a Family Sim Cassandra Goth is. She just gave birth to her daughter with Darren Dreamer, and shortly after ACR kicked in and she tried for baby and got pregnant even though she doesn't have a baby want in her panel. (Usually family sims have the baby want) *Sigh*

[eldavis]

Even if the Family sim just gave birth and doesn't have a want for a baby, she'll try for baby the next time ACR kicks in and get pregnant right away. I should have turned on birth control but too late now.

I haven't played Pleasantview for awhile so I forgot how much of a Family Sim Cassandra Goth is. She just gave birth to her daughter with Darren Dreamer, and shortly after ACR kicked in and she tried for baby and got pregnant even though she doesn't have a baby want in her panel. (Usually family sims have the baby want) *Sigh*
I've found that the want only shows up after the baby has aged into a toddler. It's torture raising toddlers and infants at the same time. :lol:

[Orilon]

I've found that the want only shows up after the baby has aged into a toddler. It's torture raising toddlers and infants at the same time. :lol:

I know. That's what I'm dealing with at the Dreamer house right now. Anna became a toddler and then Cassandra gave birth to their son several hours after she aged so I'm dealing with a toddler and an infant and its driving me up the wall. I wish that I would have had room for Dirk to stay and help but I moved him to college because the Dreamer house isn't big enough.

Edit. Never mind had a big glitch when Lilith Pleasant moved into a dorm and had to put in an old back up. I like her but I don't want two of her. (She somehow got cloned when she moved into the dorm. )

[lazzybum]

I discovered that my sims haven't gotten a cold in such a long time, that I'm actually pleased with my household of 4 all sick with cold! I am amused at watching them all sneeze :D!

[Orilon]

I was playing the Dreamer house to get Cassandra and Darren married again since I had to put in that back up, and discovered that lightning can set outside support beams on fire.

I've seen tree and telescope fires before, but I've never seen a support column on fire before.

[Simsica]

A fun fact: hygiene is tanked by reading Sci-Fi :rofl:

It must be a simulation of that situation when you think you're sitting at home and reading Sci-Fi, when in fact you've been snatched by aliens and are actually subjected to some really messy testing. :rolleyes:

Now I'm hoping someone kind will tell me that my stinking Sims can be saved form the evil aliens, because they really don't exist, and it's all my fault: a conflict of some CC, a really nasty hair recolor that somehow messed my game, anything.

[smorbie1]

I'm confused. Do you want to get the alien option back, or would you like me to call a town hall meeting with your sims and let them in on the no-alien secret. If the former, you are just going to need to remove cc until you discover the conflict.

[Orilon]

I'm confused. Do you want to get the alien option back, or would you like me to call a town hall meeting with your sims and let them in on the no-alien secret. If the former, you are just going to need to remove cc until you discover the conflict.

I think Simscia wants to know if the hygiene loss is directly related to reading Sci-fi or if its related to CC conflicting.

I only have my Sims study skills, not read Sci-fi or any other genre. They lose hygiene but not at any big rate. To find out if its CC you're going to need to remove CC and see if the hygiene improves or not.

[katya_stevens]

Now I'm hoping someone kind will tell me that my stinking Sims can be saved form the evil aliens, because they really don't exist, and it's all my fault: a conflict of some CC, a really nasty hair recolor that somehow messed my game, anything.

Sci-Fi novels tanking hygiene is perfectly normal -- the other novels do similar things, from what I recall (or at least Romance increases social; never seen it but I would imagine a cooking book would reduce the hunger motive [how can looking at delicious food not make you hungry).

[AlexandraSpears]

I would imagine a cooking book would reduce the hunger motive [how can looking at delicious food not make you hungry).

It does. I had a Sim read a cookbook (not study Cooking) when their Hunger motive was fully green...when he was done, it was halfway down.

[Orilon]

Sci-Fi novels tanking hygiene is perfectly normal -- the other novels do similar things, from what I recall (or at least Romance increases social; never seen it but I would imagine a cooking book would reduce the hunger motive [how can looking at delicious food not make you hungry).

What I get from your post is basically the Sim "pees" themselves in fear and the hygiene goes down like when they literally pee themselves when they get scared by a ghost.

I'm glad I don't have my Sims read stuff then.

[Liv Lukas]

That dogs curl their ears back in pleasure when getting a stroke on the head:


http://i.imgur.com/ZTdCF.jpg


So cute!

[nikel23]

I found that Young Adults cannot be in the community lots if the Final Exam in their 8th semester is due in about 3 hours.

If they're at home, the option to walk to..., calling transportation, and even clicking nearby lot are disabled. If the Sims are already in community lot, the game would inform several hours before the exam begins that Sims should hurry up to go home and prepare for the test. If 3 hours only remains, the game will forcibly send Sim back home, with the option to Save the game or not before they're forced home.

[AlexandraSpears]

Cats will watch Sims dance. Sometimes if a Sim is dancing, a nearby dog will Jump Around. The cat's probably wondering what's up with these silly Sims, the dog wants in on the action!

[Peni Griffin]

They don't have to pee themselves for hygiene to go down. They get into a cold sweat from reading the scary parts.

I'm still trying to get a sim's literature enthusiasm high enough to read while walking. All the other enthusiam gestures kick in much earlier!

Yesterday I was watching two sims have a conversation about jewelry, and the sim who was wearing some turned her head and gestured to show the other her earrings! Cool!

[Darby]

Yesterday I was watching two sims have a conversation about jewelry, and the sim who was wearing some turned her head and gestured to show the other her earrings! Cool!

:blink: That IS cool! I've got to start putting earrings on my sims more often! (I wonder if male sims do that? :giggler: )

Another I haven't seen yet is the big wave that friends (BFFs?) will give each other from a distance.

[Orilon]

They don't have to pee themselves for hygiene to go down. They get into a cold sweat from reading the scary parts.

What on earth are they reading? H.P. Lovecraft?



Another I haven't seen yet is the big wave that friends (BFFs?) will give each other from a distance.


It does happen with BFFs. I've had a lot of Sims become BFFs but didn't see the wave very often.