Wiki Help Wanted

[Delphy]

Wiki Editing:

Have you contributed to Wikipedia or another wiki? Do you know HTML, BBCode, or similar?

Do you enjoy the interesting facts and figures and details of gameplay of TS2/TS3?

Do you have extra time on your hands and wouldn't mind using some of it to do something to add to this site?


We need...

We are looking for folks who would like to help contribute to the wiki, specifically the Gameplay Guides sections. Basically, building our own guide to gameplay (similar to the Prima Guides) available free online to anyone.

For example, see: Sims 3 Gardening (http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Gardening).

Charts of useful data, images/icons, helpful tips, etc.


Okay, sign me up!

Still interested? Great! Here's how to get started:

1. Create a wiki user account (http://www.sims2wiki.info/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin).

2. Come back to this thread and post letting us know what name you registered under.

3. Decide what area you would like to work on. Here are the ones we already have (http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:TS3_Gameplay_Guides) - those existing ones may need more work, so you can either add to an existing one, or create a new one. See here (http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Help:Contents) for editing help and tips. Of course, you can ask for help here, or come find me or HP in chat for help too.

Suggestions for sections:

Fishing - different fish, their values, and what bait works for what fish.
Gems - Gem types, cuts, values, how many gems you have to cut before getting new cuts
Moodlets - Images for each moodlet, times/conditions, in-game descriptions, requirements
Guitar - Songs, and which are buyable
Books - Name and values of all the books
Ghosts - Ghost colours and how to get a playable ghost
Careers - Career levels and pay
Traits - More info on what interactions and options each trait has
Lifetime Rewards - A list of all of them and what they do
Paintings - Pricing, types, etc.
Pregnancy, baby gender, and fertility
Novels
Upgrades
Logic Skill
Rabbit holes

Make sure to copy the formatting from existing sections and to put the header and footer!

4. Be accurate! While some errors here and there are inevitable, please don't put anything that's sheer speculation or "I heard somewhere" type stuff. If you're capable of looking at the game's code or XML tuning, that's best - if you can't, or aren't sure of the facts, work on a section you can be sure of!

5. Ask for help if you need it! We're happy to provide assistance if you need any help or guidance!

Thanks, and have fun!

[FjordLine]

I registered under the name of 'cantanstrophe'.

[daluved1]

daluved1 :)

EDIT: I'll take books!

[Ashleigh825]

Hey I'd like to help out with this. :)

I registered as Ashleigh825, same username as here. ;)

I'd like to do moodlets, though of course I'd love some help with that, since there are so many of them and certain ones only appear for sims with certain traits.

[ChemicalCaitlin]

I registered as ChemicalCaitlin. I'd love to help with moodlets! I know nothing about how to do HTML coding and whatnot, but I'd like to help out in any way I can. :Pint:

[porkypine]

Hi Delphy. I've already been working on the Sims3 cheats, etc. so I'd like to continue on it as time allows. My home internet is back up again AND I have been playing Sims3 to test the cheats. :lol:

[Kolipoki]

My name for the wiki is Kolipoki, i've done most of the fishing page all ready and the guitar page as well, you guys can put it on the links now.
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Guitar

[HugeLunatic]

Same user name. I would like to start on careers.

[Spleen]

Signed up as Spleen & I'll do everything I can.

[SIMS2ADDICT!]

I'm sorry. It's late right now and i'm not thinking straight. I didn't want to delete that comment. I am still SIMS3ADDICT! on the wiki and I will start working on careers tomorrow.

[kookiekween99]

Same username. I just totally reorganized the moodlets pages. I'm about to go get the game disc and get some screenshots, but I'm not quite sure how to upload images...

[Kolipoki]

on the left, underneath the search box, there is a link that says upload file

I'll start working on lifetime rewards tomorrow.

[pegasaus]

I am already logged on wiki,my username is Pegasaus7 and I work on sim/lot/town descriptions.

[HystericalParoxysm]

You guys -rock-! So much stuff done already! I'll take a look over stuff and do a bit of tweaking (I notice some pages are missing headers, for instance) after I have my coffee, but I just want to say a big THANK YOU! to the folks who have contributed thus far. I was not expecting this level of response! :)

[daluved1]

I've laid down the basic framework for the Books section:
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Books

I just need to get the thumbnails up and finish the "Special Books" section.

EDIT - I'm completely done...I think...so you can add it to the Game Help section

[pxcrps]

I registered as SenPain and will help when I feel confident in my knowledge. :)

[Kolipoki]

Well it looks like i was beaten to the lifetime rewards, so i'll add icons to it

[chibihime]

Just wondering, is this only for sims 3? I would love to help out, but I only own sims 2 cuz I heard sims 3 has less stuff and worse graphics D:!

[Waterclaw]

Waterclaw :D

I won't be working on a single page, I'll do little bits scatterd. Later once I know more I'll work on a area...

[jadaytime]

I signed up as jadaytime and I will be working on anything I can.

On another note:
I have the XML file of all the moodlets in a text document. The name was "Buffs" instead of "Moodlets". I would convert them but after looking at the size of the list it's too much to go through. It contains the length of the moodlet, the name, and the effect it has on the sim. If anyone wants this file, send me a PM and I will send you the file.

[SIMS2ADDICT!]

well, it looks like somebody beat me to careers. i'll think of something else to do.


edit: i will be doing a skills page if nobody gets there first

[porkypine]

Hey guys, be sure to use the discussion areas to ask questions about formatting and to stash content that you have gathered, but may not have had time/been able to format, then others can add publish it when they have a bit of time. :bunny:

[porkypine]

I have a question... I see that I think it may have been Nick Hawelu, made this entry on the Sims3 cheats section of the wiki.

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Cheats


EditInCAS

A cheat removed from the game which allowed the player to send the active sim back into the Create-A-Sim mode. This allowed you to edit the sim as if you were creating when you started the game. This cheat and other cheats previously removed from the base game are available for use with AwesomeMod by Pescado.

Do we want cheats here that are not part of the game but are part of the awesome mod? Does this cheat work without Awesome mod? Do we want to open an awesome mod cheat section or refer people to MATY on this one? (My guess is refer to MATY.)

Official response requested. :report:

[MogHughson]

I have signed up as MogHughson (same as here). I'm not a Sims 3 user, but since you also said you wanted Sims 2 stuff updated, I have wanted to add modding stuff from a new modder's perspective for a while. I've started with a page here SimPE Resource Editing which shows the style I write in and ends with a paragraph of my intentions. I plan to link it to maybe this page ModdingTheGame once I have actually done anything that I say I'm going to do. I post this here so you have the chance to stop me and say, "no that's not what we're after" before I get really stuck in :)

So I've done two resources tied together to show what I mean BCON and TRCN. In both cases the new version from SimPE perspective links to old file format version and back again. Hope you like - I'll really stop for tonight now - do some more tomorrow.

[daluved1]

porkypine, how do you get to the discussion area?

[HystericalParoxysm]

To be honest, I would prefer if, for right now, discussion be kept to this thread. There's a lot of different talk pages and I think it's probably easiest to keep things right here. :)

porky - I would prefer unofficial/removed cheats to have their own section with a brief mention rather than being part of the main cheats list. Awesomemod adds a bajillion cheats - could have a link to its page rather than trying to maintain that ever-changing list.

[daluved1]

Well HP, with that being said...

It would be fabulous if someone added those spiffy little blue backgrounds to the tables, and maybe spruced the books page up a bit :)

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Books

[HugeLunatic]

I think I have most everything for careers. I am a little fuzzy on the actual skills names required. I did get the performance from the game, but if anyone know the correlation with skills and the levels. I didn't put any actual skill level numbers since I am unsure of them.

oh, I also have all carpool car names and work clothes if you want that added as well?

[dontravious]

I would like to help out

username: Dbanks
name: Dontravious

I will take novels :)

[DarkBlue]

I did ghosts (and I want to thank everyone who helped me improve the article :)) and I'm going to start on gems.

[daluved1]

Is anyone doing school (elem. & highschool)?

[Kolipoki]

I finished upgrades and i added a link to it (i'm not sure if i;m allowed to, if not please let me know and i won't do it again). It's a little dull, but all the info is there. If anyone wants to spice it up go ahead. The info is based of the XMLs

[daluved1]

Kolipoki, can I make a suggestion? You should give a brief description of what Upgrades are.

[Kolipoki]

no one's stopping you, you can go ahead and do that. (i'm not good at making descriptions).

[daluved1]

Okie doke, just wanted to ask first :)

[rainycat]

I registered as "Jello" without the quotes :) I can code in HTML and a little (very little) CSS, but that's it. But I have a question: is it TS2 that needs help, or TS3?

I could do hidden skills for TS2 if it's not done (couldn't find it, but sometimes I'm blind) like dance, or even just skills in general.

EDIT: I began skills, here is the link: http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Skills#Introduction

It's getting late, so I'm going to hit the sack and finish tomorrow. :) If I did something wrong, please tell me, as this is my first time with wiki articles. ;)

[HystericalParoxysm]

Mostly we're focusing on TS3 stuff, but if you want to do what may still need doing for TS2, you are more than welcome to. :)

[squall117]

Hi just a little Tip. When sims play guitar they tend to go to weird places like the bathroom or outside the house. This is because they need space to play confortably. Also, one of the best places to play for tips is close to the book shop, there's always enough public there =)

[supaclova]

I'm supaclova and I'll add to wherever I think it lacks :)

[Charisa1114]

I joined as Charisa1114, same as here. I bought The Sims 3 Game Guide Collector's Edition. There is all kinds of stuff in there that I learned so I'm sure I could contribute quite a bit, but I have no idea how to make a page. I have never played around with HTML. I can add stuff in here and there where it is lacking. I haven't looked over the site too much yet, but I noticed that in the Career section the tones for each career are listed, but not the effect of each tone. I could add on stuff like that.

Another possible category is the opportunities that come up. There are three different types skill, job, and special. I have all the info if someone would want to help design the page, or point me towards a tutorial :)

[Delphy]

Charisa1114, to add a page, you can simply type the title that you want into the Search box on the left. This will then give you the option to Edit this page, which will create it.

Or you can just link to it with [[ ]] and then clicking on that will let you make that new page.

[Charisa1114]

Could I just copy the code from a page that would look similar and then just edit the info? I think I could manage that to do a page for opportunities.

[Delphy]

Yes, that would work fine. Most of the wiki is done via copying code off another page. :)

[Charisa1114]

Coolness :) I'll get started right away.

[HugeLunatic]

Is there one particular style that is preferred? I've noticed there are quite a few different formatting versions, which is to be expected when multiple users are editing. Or does this not matter? Or is someone else going to make it "pretty" later?

[daluved1]

HugeLunatic, I'm really OCD about uniformity and I've been contemplating attacking each article until they all match >>"

[HystericalParoxysm]

I was planning on going over and reformatting some of them a little bit - mainly the tables, which need to be converted to templates to make things neater and tidier. I just need D's help with that since I'm not fantastic with all the IF THEN type stuff.

[HugeLunatic]

HugeLunatic, I'm really OCD about uniformity and I've been contemplating attacking each article until they all match >>"

:) I suffer from this too, which is why I am asking before I go and redo every page.

HP - what is this convert to template you speak of? Is one of the pages already like this? I actually have plenty of time before fall semester starts to continue helping, I know html & css.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Well, for an example, click Edit on one of the Hair Gallery pages:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/index.php?title=Hair_Gallery/Female_Hair_All&action=edit

It's a table similar to the ones we're doing on the gameplay guides, but instead of having all the gobbledygook for every row... i.e:

|- style="vertical-align:top;width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5" class="MainPageBG"
| style="border:1px solid #b3decf;background-color:#f5ffff;color:#000" |

... it just uses a template, {{HairGalleryRow}} to accomplish all of the style stuff, and then each line gets plugged in after that. It's not really -necessary- but it does make things a lot neater and cleaner.

[HugeLunatic]

Oh, that makes lots of sense. You can change most of the color/border/etc formatting in one place then. There shall be uniformity.

[skibby312]

my username is skibby_312.
i am interested in pregnancy, gender, and fertility.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Yep! I'm gonna go ahead and work on this now and see if I can get it working. I notice there's a couple different types of tables going (the duller green ones vs the brighter blue and green ones) etc. - I'll try to set it up so we can do header rows and a leading row that's a bit different too if we so choose. Uniformity, but flexibility. Huzzah! *dives into wiki code and readies herself to tear her hair out*

[skibby312]

I am finished with the "Pregnancy, Baby Gender, and Fertility" page. If someone wantas to tweak it to look better go ahead. There are currently no pics because my computer has been acting up.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Good info to be found which would be great to convert over:

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15723.0.html - Painting
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15790.0.html - Gems
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15157.0.html - Traits
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15363.0.html - Traits, rewards, etc.
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15271.msg444022.html#msg444022 - Novel related
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15271.0.html - Novel related
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15271.msg442605.html#msg442605 - Novel related

[HystericalParoxysm]

Okay, double posting, but this is a different topic.

RE: the tables, if you take a look at the top one here:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Fishing

You'll see how the formatting is done as neat, clean little styles (THANKS DELPHY!) rather than large amounts of blah as they were before. This should make editing tables a little nicer on the eyes.

If someone could convert any other existing tables to that format, that would be great. I'll start working on some of them, and clean up some of the other pages so they're neat and tidy. :)

[HugeLunatic]

The first table which has no line? I'm guessing since that does have clean code without all the styles attached to each line. :)

I started Opportunities page, and added it to the main Gameplay guide page. When I clicked the link the page was already made with career opportunities started, but was not linked anywhere(that I could see) to get to it. Is there a way for you to find any other "lost" pages and link them?

[rainycat]

You can copy over a page?! I've just been typing all my own HTML! :lol:

[HystericalParoxysm]

HugeLunatic - I've been trying to go through Recent Changes to see what's added and what needs fixing up. I'm working on that right now. I'm also adding links to not-yet-existing pages on the main Gameplay Guides page so folks can fill in the areas that still need doing. :)

skibby312 - I deleted the pregnancy page you made since we already had one listed on the Gameplay Guides page. I incorporated what details we didn't have already that were in your article. Make sure to check the list on the Gameplay Guides page before making new articles. :)

[HystericalParoxysm]

Please do not copy straight from the Prima Guide! At least one page has had data that looks like it comes right outta the Prima Guide. While you -can- use some of the info in the Prima Guide as a starting point, please do not c&p directly or with minor changes. While facts cannot be copyrighted, the expression of them can be, and we don't want to have issues with copyright. Also please be aware that the Prima Guides are often error-riddled and incorrect.

[Charisa1114]

The first table which has no line? I'm guessing since that does have clean code without all the styles attached to each line. :)

I started Opportunities page, and added it to the main Gameplay guide page. When I clicked the link the page was already made with career opportunities started, but was not linked anywhere(that I could see) to get to it. Is there a way for you to find any other "lost" pages and link them?

I started on the opportunities page last night. There was no link yet cause I was gonna try to get it complete before linking to it. :) Thanks for the help!

[roxigirl76]

I added to the http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Mysterious_Mr._Gnome section. I hope it helps. I will add more as I come across it.

[porkypine]

Hi, we have a discussion going on how to organize the cheat section. Does management want a strict alphabetized list of all cheats or perhaps prefer the cheats be divided into functional categories, i.e. build/buy, sims, careers, etc? We've had 3 or more people in there lately doing all kinds of things. I alphabetized each section and added some stuff.

[HystericalParoxysm]

I'd say functional categories and then alphabetized within each category. :)

[Charisa1114]

I am currently working on the opportunities page and would love some feedback. It can be found here. (http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Opportunities)

I have the opening and first 2 careers done. The rest still has to be put together. The skill section will look similar to the career when done, I just haven't got to editing that part yet :)

[rainycat]

I finished the skills wiki page. If I missed anything, please edit it in. I am not too good at this, but I tried. :) http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_2_Skills#Basic_Skills

[porkypine]

OK. I'm going through all the cheats listed so far and making sure they work. :0)

[Charisa1114]

Something else I just thought of that should probably be listed somewhere is something about the classes you can take for skills. I'm not sure if this needs it's own page, or maybe just a mention on the individual skill pages. It would be helpful to have info on where the classes are located and how much they cost.

[daluved1]

HugeLunatic, we need to collaborate and divvy up the pages to be tidied up :)

Charisa1114, for the career reads sections you should link to the book page I created and anchor it to the specific career.

[Charisa1114]

Charisa1114, for the career reads sections you should link to the book page I created and anchor it to the specific career.

I'll work on that as soon as I get all the careers done. I already linked the skills to the pages for each skill that exists. I was planning on checking out your book page when I was done to see if you had all the opportunity ones.

[daluved1]

Charisa114, I have them all with the exception of the Goth Way? and Wright Paper thingies...I didn't know what they went to, but now I do :) I'll add them asap

[Charisa1114]

Charisa114, I have them all with the exception of the Goth Way? and Wright Paper thingies...I didn't know what they went to, but now I do :) I'll add them asap

I also couldn't find a link for the culinary Career path. There is one stupid book for that career. It is Secrets of The Master Chef. They either should have added more books for this career or left them off all together. Learning specific recipies is also in the culinary career path, so if you want to through the one lone book with them I could just link to the recipies. :)

Also, I don't remember any reading for the skill or special opportunities. I think there are only books for the Career ones.

[daluved1]

I also couldn't find a link for the culinary Career path. There is one stupid book for that career. It is Secrets of The Master Chef. They either should have added more books for this career or left them off all together. Learning specific recipies is also in the culinary career path, so if you want to through the one lone book with them I could just link to the recipies. :)

Also, I don't remember any reading for the skill or special opportunities. I think there are only books for the Career ones.

Didn't even know that Secrets of the yadda yadda existed, that must have been what CulinaryBook was in the xml. Thanks. I think it's be best to just link to recipes..

edit - or maybe make that one specific opportunity link to the book on my page? (I just added it)

[Charisa1114]

Didn't even know that Secrets of the yadda yadda existed, that must have been what CulinaryBook was in the xml. Thanks. I think it's be best to just link to recipes..

edit - or maybe make that one specific opportunity link to the book on my page? (I just added it)

I'll do it like I did for the music career. I liked to the opportunity books and the song books

[daluved1]

I came across something called "yearbook" and "editorpapers" in the books XML. Does anyone know anything about a year book or editor papers in the game? If so what do they do and how do you get them?

[HugeLunatic]

I could guess that it is either the journalism career or linked to extras for high school. Are they opportunities for either?

[squall117]

Nick: Squall117 (same)
Interest: filling moodlets section and complementing information

I've been filling missing information in the moodlets section and there's a little problem with duration which is that some mood's duration increases until a max value or until it becomes another mood.
I was thinking to give this mood's duration a little "<" symbol, so Entertained mood for example will read like this:

Entertained +25 Mood < 6 hours

Anyone supports this or has a better idea?
I don't want to go making crazy edits everywhere without asking first :)

[daluved1]

I could guess that it is either the journalism career or linked to extras for high school. Are they opportunities for either?

I scanned but have seen anything about them...so I left them out for now.

[Charisa1114]

I scanned but have seen anything about them...so I left them out for now.

I'm pretty sure the yearbook is for high school. I haven't got to the school ones yet. I'm going to try to finish up the careers today and then do the school ones. I'm going through the politics stuff as soon as I get back from the store.

[HystericalParoxysm]

squall - I think the moodlets are laid out fine the way they are. We just need the missing ones filled in using the existing format. Icon, description, etc.

[squall117]

Cool just one las question, in the duration of variable moodlets one should put the highest duration right?
Oh and, where can I find the missing icons? Is there a specific file in the game folder?

[Delphy]

For the variable moodlets why not put in the min to max? ie (1 to 4 hours).

[HystericalParoxysm]

Most of the moodlet icons have come from gameplay itself. As I play, I screenshot new moodlets. When I get a bunch of them, I transcribe the text, reasons, and crop and upload the images. It's tedious that way, but it works. There's no real good way I've seen to get the missing moodlet icons - they are in the game's textures but the backgrounds are transparent (they're not on the coloured green/blue/red backgrounds as they are in-game) and there's no real way of telling what's what.

[squall117]

Delphy: All the variable moodlets I've found have a minumun of 1 minute and continue to grow if you don't do anything to avoid it. So I guess it wold look good lie "max 6 hours"?

HP: Aww I won't be able to help with icon, for some reason my screenshots look VERY dark, the only way to make them look good would be using normal in-game pictures but the UI won't appear. =/

[HystericalParoxysm]

squall - Are you playing windowed or full screen, and how are you taking your pics? I think the dark pics is an issue with taking pics when full screened using print screen. I've seen a lot of folks with that issue but mine have always been fine since I play windowed.

[squall117]

Oh! You're right it was because of the Full Screen Mode, thanks for the info, I'll go back to play and take screens as needed =)

[squall117]

I removed the "Strained" and "Stressed Out" moodlets from the Work section and placed them in the Fun Section because this moodlets are obtained by simply getting a low fun level, so a can can get them even if it's unempolyed.
I also started looking for the missing icons, will upload some after I take them from the sreenshots =)

[daluved1]

I' ve been busy reformating the tables. That simple "class" tag is amazing ;)

[squall117]

Message to whoever wrote the following:
"The option to write Children's Books appeared after writing the first Fiction Novel. Unsure of what skill level this requires (Sim was at 10)."

I believe it's related something else than the skill level. I have a sim who written all kinds of novels and has the skill at lvl 10 and still doesn't have this option. He also has all the skill challenges and has read all the novels available at the store. He has a daughter by the way, so there must be something missing... Perhaps it's related to the Childish trait? I'll try to make some testing here =)

[Canoodle]

Message to whoever wrote the following:
"The option to write Children's Books appeared after writing the first Fiction Novel. Unsure of what skill level this requires (Sim was at 10)."

I believe it's related something else than the skill level. I have a sim who written all kinds of novels and has the skill at lvl 10 and still doesn't have this option. He also has all the skill challenges and has read all the novels available at the store. He has a daughter by the way, so there must be something missing... Perhaps it's related to the Childish trait? I'll try to make some testing here =)

I believe, not 100% sure, that the sim has to have a level 6 painting skill to write a children's book.

[Charisa1114]

Childrens' books are supposed to be unlocked at level 3, but you do have to have a painting skill of 6 before you can write them. I think the only other 2 that are effected by something other than writing is if your sim has the good sense of humor trait they can write humor books earlier, same with hopeless romantics they can write romances early too.

[Sims2Sims3]

BlinkIsntDead

idk what to help with
if i can i just find something to fix

[HugeLunatic]

My sim did have the painting skill as well when I found that, was leveling multiple skills as she was going to be in law enforcement. I just didn't attempt to write any novels until I had max skill levels. I don't think I have tried writing a non-fiction to see if any other options come up. I am going to see if I can find the right code in xml to find out. It's very possible traits are related as well, since I found a bunch of if/then in the xml related to traits.

I have all the text for all challenges per skill, just haven't added since I don't have much else to put there. Except for a small amount of info about Painting, just have to write in a readable format. =)

Edit: I have found what I needed in the XML and I will update later.

[cruinne]

I've signed up under the same user name as here; I wanted to poke a bit at personality traits, and perhaps some other bits and pieces.

[Plum]

My name on the wiki is Plum (surprise!) and I can do some stuff for the paintings section. I actually already have all 1580 paintings converted to .jpeg format, though uploading all of them might be a big excessive. o.O

[warewolves]

i joined as myself i'm gona help in mts2 because i don't have sims 3 yet. i shall be floating around

[squall117]

Hmm I think someone should set a standard for moodlet icons' size, cause right now they are of multiple sizes and it doesn't look pretty good. I'll say that 44 x 44 pixels looks pretty good in my opinion. I also offer myself to update all the icons to fit in a standard.

[Elizabella]

Do you only need help with Sims 3 or are you looking for Sims 2 too?

[polljimmy]

I believe it's related something else than the skill level.
I have a sim who written all kinds of novels and has the skill at level 10 and still doesn't have this option. And the skill change wanted.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Plum - Wow, 1580? I knew there was a lot but wasn't aware of THAT many.

Maybe just do the regular version paintings (the normal ones painted by sims without special traits related to paintings) and then have one particular one that has all the versions as a comparison of what the styles look like.

squall117 - You don't have to actually resize anything yourself. Just put it on the wiki tag. So like: [[Image:Moodlet.jpg|44x44px]]

Elizabella - Sims 2 and Sims 3 both. :)

Also, RE: paintings, has anyone checked the painting guide I linked on MATY? I know they compiled a lot of info looking at the XMLs - I don't know if that helps with what ya'll are sorting out but it might be useful, and they're reliable when it comes to info.

[Elizabella]

HP...is there an easy way to see what you still need on MTS2? I tried browsing but I felt like I was going in circles :)

Registed as Elizabella

[HystericalParoxysm]

Elizabella - If you look here (http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Gameplay_Guides) and here (http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Expansion_Packs), you'll see the existing guides we have for TS2. IMO, easiest would just be to look at the areas you're particularly interested in and add or correct any information you're sure about.

[Elizabella]

Hi HP, I tried editing TS2 careers and it said it was locked. Am I doing something wrong? Sorry for all the questions

[Plum]

Plum - Wow, 1580? I knew there was a lot but wasn't aware of THAT many.
There are 158 basic paintings, then there are nine variations of each of those depending on a Sim's traits (for example, an evil Sim will paint the same thing, but it'll be red--cute concept, albeit too far reaching to be properly executed considering they probably put one person in charge of making these 1580 paintings).

It'd probably be more efficient to post the 158 basic paintings, and then one example of the way the traits affect the paintings (since it's the same way every time, like for the "genius" trait they just ran every painting through Photoshop's stain glass filter). If you even want to go that far, that is. Even 158 is kind of a lot, but they're small.

I'll start putting something together tomorrow.

ETA: Okay, the Paintings guide now contains all the information I currently have, except for Still Lifes, which I'll do later. There are a few facts missing that I know exist but don't know the details of, but I hope there are no errors at least. I'm also considering creating a gallery of the 158 basic paintings, but that would take awhile and isn't urgent.

I... think that's it. I feel like I'm forgetting something. *shrug* Please let me know if anyone has any feedback. It's my first Wiki page! The extent of my Wiki editing before this was adding a few Care Bears to the Wiki page for them. xD

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Painting

[Elizabella]

Ok I've found a way to work on the careers so I'm doing that, also I'm going to try and do the free time hobbies. I'm going to let my formatting be ugly for now and then if anybody, or if I get around to it, want to make it pretty they can but I just want to get the information in first :)

[QBUILDERZ]

I Will try my best to pitch in any information I can scrape together. I am registered under the name "Qbuilderz" ;)

[Elizabella]

Is there a way to see chance cards you've missed, maybe in SimPE? Ithought I had paused the game but it just skipped right over them.

[HystericalParoxysm]

I've added the following users to the Site Helpers group based on their wonderful help and efforts on the wiki (in no particular order):

squall117
daluved1
HugeLunatic
Kolipoki
Charisa1114
Plum
xalwaysvindicatedx

Huge thanks to -everyone- who has contributed - those were the particular names that stood out to me in looking at the changes lists - if you feel you were missed (which is possible, I'm a scatterbrain!) please PM me and I'll take a look.

To those that were added, you now have access to the Helper Zone forum: http://www.modthesims.info/forumdisplay.php?f=543 ... which has a bit more information on what it means to be an MTS Helper, as well as info on how to get to the private Helpers chat. Again, thank you! :)

[QBUILDERZ]

OOH! Nice job guys! Congrats!

[daluved1]

Oh that's what that meant, :lol: I thought it was a glitch!
-happy dance-

[HugeLunatic]

I was wondering where that new forum came from in my new posts! lol So good to know I am not totally crazy. Thanks HP.

Elizabella - The career stuff is in SimPE and the only way I know to find it is by Group ID in OW. I have a list from an old tutorial by Psion of the Group IDs. This tutorial is from 2005 so it doesn't have all EPs. Maybe this will help you get started, and someone else will know how to find them in Simpe.

Job Description Adult Teen/Elder
Athletics 0x7FC82329 0x7FBDC3E8
Business 0x7F1575B2 0x7F83EF68
Criminal 0x7F5AA90E 0x7FCC33D4
Culinary 0x7FF8F9B6 0x7F6E636C
Law Enforcement 0x7F05D903 0x7F3969B0
Medicine 0x7F0E5D6B 0x7F98C7B1
Military 0x7F4C28B2 0x7FDAB268
Politics 0x7F162387 0x7F80B95D
Science 0x7F7201DA 0x7F1611D4
Slacker 0x7F2FD049 0x7F4BC047
^ Artist 0x7F2CA2DE
^ Natural Scientist 0x7F6714E2
^ Paranormal 0x7FA4966D
^ ShowBiz 0x7F45F250
Private School N/A 0x7F2DCBC6
Public School N/A 0x7F647BAD

[squall117]

Haha I just noticed the change in my name color and I was about to go mad trying to figure out why it was like that :rofl:

[Plum]

Aww, I feel all appreciated and junk. Thanks HP! I'mma check this new stuff out as soon as I get back from dinner with my pops.

[Rikachu]

RiBlan- I'd like to help on the Rabbit Holes & Community Lots section. :)

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

Vampire_aninyosaloh - I'd love to help in the Logic Skill section :)

[daluved1]

Is there anything else to put up? I'm in a webmastering mood :D

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

I've done it... how does it look?? :)
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Logic

PS. I don't know how to add the footer and the header.

[Ghost sdoj]

I was wondering where that new forum came from in my new posts! lol So good to know I am not totally crazy. Thanks HP.

Elizabella - The career stuff is in SimPE and the only way I know to find it is by Group ID in OW. I have a list from an old tutorial by Psion of the Group IDs. This tutorial is from 2005 so it doesn't have all EPs. Maybe this will help you get started, and someone else will know how to find them in Simpe.

Job Description Adult Teen/Elder
Athletics 0x7FC82329 0x7FBDC3E8
Business 0x7F1575B2 0x7F83EF68
Criminal 0x7F5AA90E 0x7FCC33D4
Culinary 0x7FF8F9B6 0x7F6E636C
Law Enforcement 0x7F05D903 0x7F3969B0
Medicine 0x7F0E5D6B 0x7F98C7B1
Military 0x7F4C28B2 0x7FDAB268
Politics 0x7F162387 0x7F80B95D
Science 0x7F7201DA 0x7F1611D4
Slacker 0x7F2FD049 0x7F4BC047
^ Artist 0x7F2CA2DE
^ Natural Scientist 0x7F6714E2
^ Paranormal 0x7FA4966D
^ ShowBiz 0x7F45F250
Private School N/A 0x7F2DCBC6
Public School N/A 0x7F647BAD


If you go Advanced in SimPe you can clone all the careers. Then you can open each one in the career editor. If it has 3 levels, it was a teen/elder career. if it has 10 levels it was the Adult version. (And while you are checking the name you can read all the chance card options. :giggler:) Or were you planning to include the chance cards as well?

[daluved1]

I've done it... how does it look?? :)
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Logic

PS. I don't know how to add the footer and the header.

I suggest putting the information into tables. It's a PITA to do, but it looks a bit better and it helps people find info faster. ;)

And there are a few typos, but we all make those.

[HugeLunatic]

Ghost I have advanced set, but I couldn't find them. Do you happen to know where in there they are?

[Gangreless]

daluved, did I see somewhere that you were working on the Ores page?

Also, I've looked through all the package files, and I haven't been able to find the one that has the image files for the insects. Does anyone know where they are? I'm beginning to think they may be dds files but there's so many and they have no descriptions. Just wondering if anyone has happened upon them. Thanks!

[daluved1]

Gangy! No I'm not working on them, I didn't even know those existed o.O

[Gangreless]

huh, I could have sworn I saw that on here. Oh well, that'll be on my list, then :)

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Omni_Plant

Lists for what to/not to feed plant needs to be expanded... can't think of anything else.

[Plum]

If anyone wants my help with formatting or anything, I'm available to help. I just gotta finish the still life section for my page.

I also tried looking for the insects but didn't see them. :p

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

Oh! :lol: Thanks for the tables Gangreless :)

Then... is my page finished? Because I would like to help more :)

[Ghost sdoj]

Ghost I have advanced set, but I couldn't find them. Do you happen to know where in there they are?

Not off the top of my head, since it's been a while. It was somewhere kind of offbeat, that made sense after I thought about it for a moment. Sim Data maybe? (I think I remember a category like that buried in OW, anyway.)

I notice that the Sims 2 Toddler section hasn't had the Free Time additions added. Is anybody doing that?

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

Could someone help me to add the footer and header, please??

[LarryPoppins]

This is LarryPoppins registering on the wiki as...LarryPoppins (http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=User:LarryPoppins). I'll be editing everything that needs editing. =P

Could someone help me to add the footer and header, please??
What page are you needing help with? And don't worry too much about the "proper" formatting. If you have something to share, share it and someone else will gladly add that stuff in for you.

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

This: http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Logic :)

[HugeLunatic]

I added the header/footer and formatted to match the other pages. :)

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

I've just seen it, thanks a lot :)

[HugeLunatic]

Your welcome. You can also copy from other pages if you cannot remember exactly how to type them.


...back to my ore list...lol

[squall117]

And there are a few typos, but we all make those.Those who use chrome have the option to enable spell checker =D

[daluved1]

Or Firefox...or Safari ;)

[HugeLunatic]

:) I use Firefox which does too, cause I am a master of typos.

Question about skills. There are a couple pages for specific ones, but there are many more. Is the goal to have individual pages for each skill, or to create one page for Skills then have each on those pages? (similar to careers) I have found a small amount of info on the hidden skills and just am unsure about how to organize it.

[daluved1]

You must have read my mind HugeLunatic because I had just came here to ask/suggest that!

Edit- What about adding a relationships page? I know times/actions can vary, but general info would be nice. Just a suggestion.

[Elizabella]

If you go Advanced in SimPe you can clone all the careers. Then you can open each one in the career editor. If it has 3 levels, it was a teen/elder career. if it has 10 levels it was the Adult version. (And while you are checking the name you can read all the chance card options. :giggler:) Or were you planning to include the chance cards as well?

I must still be doing something wrong because I'm loading my neighborhood and searching for that string and not finding it.

And yes I was going to include the chance cards but note them as spoilers.

SOrry I'm needing so much hand holding. :(

[Gangreless]

So, HugeLunatic, are you the one working on the Ores page?

[HugeLunatic]

I added the basics, some of the exact formulations regarding selling of ores and such I am unsure of. I just started the game to make my sim pick up some rocks to shed some more light on the subject. :)

[karin_hoshi]

I want to help find the place for ores and gems on Riverview. I already started looking and I don't think anyone has offered yet (If they did I'm blind xD).

[Gangreless]

I seem to recall HP doing something with this...

Yep, she has posted spawn points for Rainbow and Pink Diamond:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Gems#Rainbow_Gem_Spawn_Locations

[Ghost sdoj]

I must still be doing something wrong because I'm loading my neighborhood and searching for that string and not finding it.

And yes I was going to include the chance cards but note them as spoilers.

SOrry I'm needing so much hand holding. :(

I was leaving steps out again. :(

Look in Object Workshop. Among all the normal objects that are cloneable there are also some things that you wouldn't expect to see. One of them is careers.

It's been a while since I've done it, but I think after the list opens after you have started it you will be able to click a + mark next to a heading like "Miscellaneous" or "Unknown" and find an entry for something like "Sim Data".

That was asked in How To at the SimPe site; let me see if I can find it again.


Ok, it was asked several times.....

That won't help for cloning though. Careers and schools can be found in OW under Other|SimType


She also noted that the window sometimes opens *under* everything else and you need to minimize everything to get to it.

[karin_hoshi]

I seem to recall HP doing something with this...

Yep, she has posted spawn points for Rainbow and Pink Diamond:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Gems#Rainbow_Gem_Spawn_Locations

Yes HP did but the locations are from Sunset Valley if I don't know correctly. I may be wrong thought but I don't find the spots listed on that page in Riverview, althought thw buildings do exist they are positioned different. I'm not sure I made myself clear xD.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Folks are welcome to add spawn points for the other items in Sunset Valley, or the items in Riverview. They're listed in the Prima Guide but in several cases they seem just flat out wrong, and the numbers given for the items don't correspond correctly to the actual spawners as listed in the game's XML. ;)

[Ghost sdoj]

Ok, fine! I'm registered as Ghost there now. I edited the discussion for the Toddler page to reflect the additions that Free Time made. Someone else is going to have to do AL, though. I can't run it. And it still needs to be added to the main article.

[EvilWario]

I'm regeistering as evilwario, and i will adit ANYTHING

[Gangreless]

Just make sure you spell check if you do.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/gangreless/turtle_125SPARKIFIED.gif

You misspelled registering and edit.

[EvilWario]

Why? :blink:

[QBUILDERZ]

I'm regeistering as evilwario, and i will adit ANYTHING
Just make sure you spell check if you do.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/gangreless/turtle_125SPARKIFIED.gif

You misspelled registering and edit.

Before you edit the wiki, registering is required ;) Thats what Gangerless meant

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

You misspelled Gangreless :lol: I wanna help more... anyone need help? :)

[Delphy]

Please keep this thread on topic and be serious. This is not Nintenspammers. Thank you. :)

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

I've seen that all th pages are done, but... I really want to help more, I made the logic page... How can I help more? :)

[Rikachu]

Please keep this thread on topic and be serious. This is not Nintenspammers. Thank you. :)

That's too true! :lol:

[squall117]

@Vapire (and anyone else that wants to help)
There are a couple of moodlets that are still missing icon and I really got tired of trying to get them =/
Here's the link to my list of missing moodlets. I was going to try and get them this weekend but work followed me home xD
http://www.freewebs.com/squall117/Missing%20Moodlets.txt

[Vampire_aninyosaloh]

I've added the icon to all those that were in the page but didn't have icon, but I don't know in which category add the ones that are in your list...

[Elizabella]

Thank you Ghost. I finally figured it out. Now before I finish with the cars and uniforms which is all I couldn't find in SimPE, any suggestions to make my super ugly formatting prettier? http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Career_List

[Ghost sdoj]

I don't see anything wrong with your formatting.

I noticed we don't have entries for Simlogical under Fansites, or for Inge, Peter, and Wes Howe under People.

But I don't know how to add them. (And my formatting will probably stink as well.)

[Gangreless]

Thank you Ghost. I finally figured it out. Now before I finish with the cars and uniforms which is all I couldn't find in SimPE, any suggestions to make my super ugly formatting prettier? http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Career_List

I think you're in desperate need of tables. If you like, I'll work on it for you. Let me know ;)

[Elizabella]

Go for it...I have no idea why I'm having so much trouble with wiki, I usually am fine with html :(

[HugeLunatic]

Elizabella, I've edited the Political and put it in a table. You can just copy that one for the rest.

I did use the same formatting (colors and such) from TS3, so if an admin can verify that that is ok. Otherwise if there is another class that could be applied to it instead?

[Elizabella]

Curse I'm still screwing it up. Could you please put my short tale of requirementss into a table so I can see what Idid wrong. It willbe 5 rows and 11 columns.

[HugeLunatic]

11 columns might be too big. I think the only parts I left out were the free days, because it's fairly obvious what those are based on the work days. And the job level descriptions, which doesn't seem necessary.

I did just add below the table a placeholder for carpool and clothing, not sure how important either of those are though.

I'm not sure what you want me to list for you, because you can copy the existing table I put for Politics and just change the data part. The ! or | are cells in the table, the |- denotes the end of a row. The ! is a header and should only be used for the first row header and the first cell in each row, it bolds and centers it.

[zoobie2]

Hey! Username;; zoobiesims
Id like to write for;; Cheats!

[Plum]

I finished the painting guide today. I changed the "variations" section to show how many paintings are available per level by canvas size, and did the entire "still-lifes" section.

There is only one thing missing (that I know of, obviously): I don't know exactly how the "Master Painter achievement" affects a painting's value. It's description says that it does, but I was unable to find that information anywhere.

Other than that it should be done.

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Painting

Any feedback is welcome and appreciated.

[Elizabella]

Yes! Finally finished my first career. I dropped the uniform and car information, I figured it wasn't really worth it. If a mod wants me to add it back I will since I think I finally figured out the tables.

I couldn't get the spacing to work quite right on the skills field so if somebody could take a look at that I'd appreciate it, otherwise I think I have my template for the rest of the careers.

On sort of a political note (sorry bad pun coming up) I see that "Andrea" started this page but I don't know who she is and she never came back it. Do you think it's ok if I redo the politics section?

[squall117]

"Please note that all contributions to Sims2Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here."

You can read that every time you edit a page =)

[Elizabella]

Sorry I've got another question *blush* do you know where to find the bonuses and work days in SimPE?

[Ghost sdoj]

If you clone the careers you can open them in the career editor and find them there. There's probably another way to do it as well, but I prefer to use the career editor to read them.

Promotion bonuses are two days pay at the new salary, and work days (and hours) are listed in the career.

[MissCrown]

Registered with the same name here. I'd like to help too! Traits are what I'm best at. As soon as I know a bit more I'll contribute.

[EmilyJud]

I'd like to help but I'm no good at finding information. Plus I procrastinate alot. And I mean ALOT! So I probably wouldn't be much help. On my own, it would probably take me a year to get half of a page done. lol I think that everyone here has it covered anyway's.

[Ghost sdoj]

Do what I've been doing: Keep reading this thread. And the wiki. And other forums. And then mentioning the wiki at appropriate times.

Have you noticed how long the wiki has actually been around? And how long it has taken to get this much attention? It needs publicity as much as it needs people typing entries.

[FlipGuardian]

Hey all, I signed up as ExtraMedium. I wanted to write about how much money you start with when you create a family. For example if you start with one YA, you get 16k, and every other YA after that, you add 2k. Starting with an Adult, you get 18k, etc. I don't know if that's already on the Wiki. I want to write this for myself mostly because whenever I build houses I want to know who I'm building for and how much I can spend on it before I get them to move in because it actually loses value after you build it which saves money. Instead of starting a family, moving them onto an empty lot, then building them a house.

-Edit-

Has anyone killed their sim of food poisoning yet?

[Elizabella]

If you clone the careers you can open them in the career editor and find them there. There's probably another way to do it as well, but I prefer to use the career editor to read them.

Promotion bonuses are two days pay at the new salary, and work days (and hours) are listed in the career.

How can you tell the work days? They just seem to be in code to me?

[Ghost sdoj]

I thought we were talking about ts2? If you look at them in the career editor in SimPe, don't they show the work days and hours?

[Rikachu]

Okay, I have to ask, where is the Sims 3 Content List?

[Elizabella]

Oh oh oh...my name is orange now...does that make me special :)

Re: Ghost
No what it says is:
Line Hex Dec
0x0 0x0000 0
0x1 0x0037 55
0x2 0x007A 122
0x3 0x003B 59
0x4

[GeneralOperationsDirector]

Elizabella: "Oh oh oh...my name is orange now...does that make me special :)"
It means that you are now officialy a "Creator" according to Site Rules. See the Artist`s Palette under your title? That appeared at the same time.

[Elizabella]

Is there a way to change the title of an article. I'm sure it seems stupid but instead of
THe Sims 2 FreeTime I think it should reference Hobbies but I can't seem to find how to do it.

[callistra]

Elizabella, all of your mini-descriptions are direct quotes without credit. You need to please either come up with your own descriptions, or give credit and make it clear you are quoting. Also, I've fixed some grammatical things throughout the article. I don't know how to change the title. Thanks for your hard work :)

[Ghost sdoj]

Elizabella:

I'm sorry I didn't get back sooner, but I just got Sims 3.

Under Tools Open the Bidous Career Editor. Then look at each career with it. You will see a screen that looks like this.:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2880/careereditor.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/careereditor.jpg/)

As you can see, all the job hours and work days are listed in English in the chart when you use Bidou's career editor. You just have to open the (cloned) career in SimPe before you open the editor.

[Elizabella]

Elizabella, all of your mini-descriptions are direct quotes without credit. You need to please either come up with your own descriptions, or give credit and make it clear you are quoting. Also, I've fixed some grammatical things throughout the article. I don't know how to change the title. Thanks for your hard work :)

Oh I hadn't checked my grammar and credit and such yet, I'm still missing the sewing, fishing, pottering (I know that isn't a word, I just felt like typing it)

I was going to say in the credits that all descriptions were from the Sims Free Time game with thanks to SimsPE. Do you think that would be sufficient?