Emma Watson WIP

[lunde326]

Could you give me some feedback on my Emma Watson work in progress.
it's got the facial shape down i think, but it's missing something.
http://i.imgur.com/I9Ed1.jpg

please help me out :)

[dhampir1313]

The cheekbone area is looking pretty good but the rest needs a bit of work.
-her nose needs to be rotated up a bit, bridge made less thin at the top, more nose definition, slightly smaller nostrils - her whole nose needs to go up a bit in height also
-the position of her eyeballs to lids isn't quite right, and gives her a tired look although the picture on the right isn't exactly how Emma usually looks either.. try finding a better pic for the eyes?
-the actual eye you are using isn't very realistic and doesn't suit her well, perhaps try another default eye?
-her chin needs to be longer, jaw shape is ok, maybe more square
-her lips need to be less wide at the top, they are more of a straight W line than a rounded heart shape.. bottom lip shaped in more of a V as well
-her eyebrows are also not very realistic.. try some custom ones? they are a bit too manly and unshapely for Emma
-I would also recommend finding custom freckles that are realistic instead of those spotty ones.
Keep it up :)

[Redhead Creations]

I agree with Dhampir, the RL picture of Emma that you're using isn't a very good one of her and doesn't represent what she usually looks like.

In addition to the suggestions above, the eyes should be rotated a bit as well, the sim's eyes are a little too "cateye" looking, while Emma's are fairly straight across. The outer corner should come down more and be level with the inner corner.

The brow should also be lowered a little bit.

Looking forward to seeing the updates, as I love Emma and would love to see a great Sim of her done!

[lunde326]

I have implemented your feedback as good as i can (still looking for suiting brows and freckles) what do you think of the update?

http://i.imgur.com/zJKDz.jpg

[Redhead Creations]

Her eyes should be a bit smaller, perhaps use some custom eyes that you can apply as contacts?

Also, her eyes seem really high on her face, perhaps lowering them down.

The crease on her upper lip should be less dramatic.

Her skin tone also looks really grey, a lot of people say that you should take your screenshots from in-game, as sims tend to look different in-game than when they are in CAS.

[dhampir1313]

-eyes also should be rotated slightly so they are less downward facing
-move her bridge up
-lips still need to be less wide
-her nose also has to come down a tiny bit along with the eyes
-rotate eyebrows so they are more straight and less arched
-bring nostrils down a bit

She looks way better already

[lunde326]

New update. using the feedback, i have come up with this.
( i cannot lower the brows or face any lower)

http://i.imgur.com/JkRVK.jpg

[lunde326]

i made the eyes bigger.
http://i.imgur.com/y2O89.jpg

[dhampir1313]

What's going on with the bridge of her nose? :S

[lunde326]

what do you want me to change about it?

[lunde326]

Good likeness now i think. maybe a little more tweaking of the eyes and the mouth? leave your feedback please.
http://i.imgur.com/es039.jpg

[dhampir1313]

There's a strange line cutting across her nose/eye area.. her face is also still too long
The skin colour should be a bit more peachy and vibrant as well.
Her eyes are looking much better but the colour is off now
Her lips are also still too rounded and not straight enough at the top.

[lunde326]

update:
i have changed the skin color.
i cannot make the face smaller.
changed the lips a bit.
made the nose bridge smaller ( because of the line through her face)
changed eye color.

please leave your feedback.

http://i.imgur.com/fF8yP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kHabX.jpg

[Demagog]

Try to make the face and the mouth a little bit wider. Also put down the bridge and the eyebrows.

[malfoya]

Since the nose has gotten so distorted, maybe it's better to start from scratch? It's too long aswell.

[Rileyjcquinn]

Try also making the jaw more "smoother" and a lighter skin

[lunde326]

I have made the following changes:
shorter nose
mouth longer up ( to follow the nose)
Jaw longer up ( to follow the mouth)
wider mouth.

http://i.imgur.com/oAHxH.jpg

[lunde326]

new picture ( no changes from last picture, just new angle)
http://i.imgur.com/UNXiP.jpg

[TMBrandon]

Okay I'm no expert but the skin color really needs to go peachier, I suggest you use the tan base skin slider, and not the Hispanic like one your using now. That would have her skintone.
The Nose bridge needs to be curved in more not out, see how it looks flat on her, but like bulky on yours. Also the strolis need a bit more definition and the nose thing between the nostrils (having a lack of brain atm) needs to be a bit smaller. Also the browns need to be darkened and I'd suggest a different hair style and when you get it, try and use the more volumed brown, that in the second row to the right on the basic tone selections for customizing hair.

[lunde326]

New changes:
changed skin tone.
rotated the eyes just a few clicks.
changed the nose bridge
more definition the the nostrils
smaller septum (part between the nostrils)
changed the color of the eyebrows
changed the highlight color of her hair.

http://i.imgur.com/4WoB1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0nJLi.jpg

[HystericalParoxysm]

Okay, um... I don't think you're getting any closer than your first pic, tbh. Right now, you are using a really... not very good pic at all for comparison (3/4 view, smiling, etc.), and it is making your job WAY hard. It also looks like your sim is still smiling in CAS, which is not going to help you any.

Have a read over this: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=432920 ... there's a lot of good info about finding good pics and how to get your sims to stop smiling in CAS, etc., that are basic things you need to get done first before you can really get an accurate sculpt. Right now, the sculpt is still very much off - an interesting face, but not really much like hers at all. It is hard to tell you exactly what needs changing until you can get a -good- comparison pic of both the real girl and your sim. And side-by-side, please, not split pics - they can be useful but side by side with neutral faces is, IMO, the best way.

[lunde326]

ok. Taking into consideration what super forum god above me said, i will restart this project with a better picture, and the mods in the forum post he posted.

i will post the new Emma later on.

[lunde326]

Ok. so after starting from scratch again this is what i have come up with:
http://i.imgur.com/foHBV.jpg

i am looking into making custom eyebrows, to make her look more realistic ;)

[dhampir1313]

The basics are a bit better here..
-eyebrows need to be more arched
-bridge moved up a bit
-nostrils wider (side to side)
-top lip less wide and round, bottom lip thicker and more V shaped
-chin up a bit, mouth down a bit
-rotate her eyes so the outer edges are more upward
-less cheek fullness

[lunde326]

New changes:
custom eyebrows (made from photos of her)
bridge moved up
wider nostrils
changes to the lips
mouth down
chin up
rotated eyes
less cheek fullness

http://i.imgur.com/qUWQS.jpg

[dhampir1313]

The shape of the eyebrows is right, however they are nowhere near as thick as Emma's.. hers are also more natural, not as straight as the ones you have.
-the tip of her nose needs to be a bit bigger and rotated down, nostrils up
-her top lip is a little bit too thin - make it a click or so wider
-bottom lip is a tiny bit too wide as well, but shape is better
-lower eyelid shape is very straight, Emma's is more curved
-bring up her jaw slightly, the parts right below her ears so that her jaw is more V shaped and less short and square- her chin is quite good like that
-nose bridge a tad wider
I'm not sure those are the greatest custom eyes for her either, the colour shade is also slightly off