Drop Down Cribs.

[Smashed Cat]

I work at a company that calls on behalf of charities. We only accept items, not money, and because of this, we have an Acceptable Items List. Drop down cribs are unacceptable, due to the fact that they're illegal to sell and distribute now due to infant fatality. I know you can download different kinds of cribs and toddler beds, but isn't it funny that the expansion pack comes with drop down cribs anyway? Generations is supposed to be in-depth, family interactions and environments, yet it still has drop down cribs. It was just something I realized and thought was funny. At least your toddlers aren't in danger. Or are they?! :| Just kidding. c:

[somethingelse]

i think you can still buy a brand new drop down crib, you're just not allowed to sell or donate your used one because it may not meet the newest safety standards.

i dont know though, my only kid is 12, so cribs are things of the decade past.

lovely to know ea cares about the safety of our pixelated younguns though. cause they allow you to salvage cribs from the junkyard

[tonlynski]

Hmm, I have Generations, and I don't have any new cribs. But I have noticed that the basegame cribs do have bumpers in them, and you can put the teddy bears in the cribs, which are also big no-nos. I work with infants so I've taken tons of classes on SIDS/infant safety, so it's been drilled into my head that you don't put any soft items in a crib, and I always think about that when I'm buying cribs for my Sim babies. Sims are lucky that they don't have to worry about that kind of thing!

[nonamena]

I don't have any new crib from Generations, either. That said, the ban on drop-side cribs has only been in existence for about 2 months, which is post-Generations release and of course, a long time after the release of most Sims 3 items.

Also, no you can't buy any brand new drop-side cribs, according to the ban. I mean in the real word, of course!

I'd be down with some EA new crib models myself, but I doubt we'll see any soon.

[Purity4]

Cosleeping wins, and saves floor space.

[ShortyBoo]

Cosleeping wins, and saves floor space.

Isn't that dangerous as well? At least when I had my son, (11 years ago) I was told to never sleep with the baby in my bed because a sleeping adult can roll over and crush the baby or suffocate it in their sleep.

[somethingelse]

well, how the heck are us really really short parents supposed to reach into a "standard" yet not drop down side crib to get our babies? i could've never reached my son is his very young "larval" stages without that drop down side. and co sleeping wasnt going to happen, my husband sleeps the way a drunk comes out of detox. rolling around heavily, grunting alot, occasional fllailing of limbs, and strange phrases yelled loudly in spanish.

best part of all that, he doesnt speak spanish. none of either of our close families do.

however, cosleeping would be a good thing for some sim families. but they do have the trait "heavy sleeper" right there, so they may have thought about it for a minute then said "naw".




i just realised all that might read like my husband IS a drunk... nope, he just sleeps like one

[tonlynski]

somethingelse, like I mentioned upthread I work with infants and we (obviously) don't use drop down cribs. Being that I'm barely 5 feet tall, it can be quite a challenge getting babies in and out of their cribs. I have to get on my tiptoes and try to hoist them in the crib without plopping them down too hard. I end up doing a lot of belly smooshing (my belly, not the babies'...that would be bad) as well. I think a stool could do me some good, if I were confident enough that I wouldn't lose my balance. They do make cribs with fold down sides which haven't been banned, so I guess that could be an option for shorter parents, though I don't know how safe they are.

Regarding co-sleeping, I guess it's one of those things that works for some people and not for others. I don't think it would be a problem for me as I'm not a deep sleeper and am aware of my movements when sharing a bed. For instance, my 3 lb. kitty got into bed with me last night, and I stayed in the same position the whole time she was next to me. Normally I would be tossing and turning, but I was aware she was there and thus didn't move. I know lots of people who co-sleep and I'm sure if they thought it was a danger then they wouldn't do it.

[StarboardParoxysm]

Co-sleeping, when done properly, is not dangerous; it can actually be less dangerous than having the baby in a crib. You just have to know what "properly" is - it's a matter of both the environment (bed, blankets, etc.) as well as any adults sharing the bed being safe for the baby. "Just putting the baby in bed with you" is not safe or proper co-sleeping and can be very dangerous - but so can just sticking a baby in a crib without knowing proper safety for that, too.

(If you want more info, feel free to PM me - I know a lot about it as I co-slept with mine from birth to 2 and it was perfectly safe and lovely.)

I would love to have co-sleeping in the game in some way - but, then, they seem to shy away from things that have any level of "controversy" in child-rearing... there's no breastfeeding either, though there was a mod for it in TS2.

[Purity4]

Isn't that dangerous as well? At least when I had my son, (11 years ago) I was told to never sleep with the baby in my bed because a sleeping adult can roll over and crush the baby or suffocate it in their sleep.

No, it's not unsafe. SIDS is virtually nonexistent with cosleeping infants because with baby next to you, you are much more aware of everything, their breathing, their cute little noises, their muscle twitches, which of course means you don't sleep as deeply. The only instances that it is not advisable are when one of the parents are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, because that can make them sleep unnaturally deeply. Pillowtop mattresses shouldn't be used for newborns, or babies who don't have the ability to rollover and fluffy pillows and heavy comforters shouldn't be put over baby's head. These are all pretty common sense things, though. Most babies are little furnaces when they sleep, so blankets aren't even necessary anyway. There was a period of time when cosleeping was advised against, but it was proven that the dangers of sleeping in cribs are much, much worse in many different ways. I coslept with both of my daughters, even the tiny second baby that I was even more afraid would roll out because she would only sleep on the edge of the bed. So I put the unused crib with front section removed against my bed, and lowered the crib mattress height so it matched the height of my mattress. That alleviated my worries about her rolling out of bed, because if she did, she'd roll right over into the crib. That never happened, though. They both slept right up against me, on either side of me. They never slept one night in that silly crib, but for a while it was a good place to store the extra stuffed animals.

[AnnaIME]

My daughter was born 5 weeks prematurely. The doctor said that if I felt tired they would put her in an incubator in a ward with a nurse to watch her. She also said that since my daughter's breathing was OK, the best thing for her was to stay close to me, in my hospital bed. We spent that first night looking into eachothers eyes and listening to eachother breathe. It was magical.

Neither of my kids ever slept in the crib we bought. Just like Purity4, we had the crib up against the bed so noone could fall out. It was very handy for dumping extra blankets in.

It has bothered me for years how cold and hard the baby stage is in the Sims. No co-sleeping, no breastfeeding. The sim larvae don't even have personalities, and everyone who ever had care of a real baby knows that they are individuals from the second they come out.

[Smashed Cat]

First off, wow! I'm pretty surprised so many (or anyone at all) replied to my thread! xD Also you all seem very interested in it, so now I don't feel as lame for posting it. haha!


It has bothered me for years how cold and hard the baby stage is in the Sims. No co-sleeping, no breastfeeding. The sim larvae don't even have personalities, and everyone who ever had care of a real baby knows that they are individuals from the second they come out.

Yes, I agree. Generations should have been more interactive and in-depth with the larvae stage... they all look the same even. It would have been adorable to be able to put them in cute outfits and infant hats, some even born with a full head of hair, etcetera, etcetera.

Adding co-sleeping and breastfeeding would be cool too (not to sound like a creep lol), and it would start the bonding earlier for their sims. Because we all know mothers and fathers get very attached as soon as the baby is born, not when they're toddlers! I did get Medieval, and they did breast-feed in that; Generations even came after it, so why not go for it?

And as for the discussion about co-sleeping, I've done it before, and I was aware of every little sound or movement the baby was making. I barely moved at all. That being said, I'm also a very light sleeper. Plus I think its cute.

This was my first thread ever on this site! In conclusion, I feel quite welcomed now! C:

[Purity4]

Because we all know mothers and fathers get very attached as soon as the baby is born, not when they're toddlers!

...attached before the baby is born...
<3

I'm a bit emotional. My babies are now both in school as of yesterday and I miss them desperately.

[somethingelse]

purity4, i dont disagree enough to click the disagree button, but one of my bestest friends lost a baby to sids while they were cosleeping, she wasnt under the influence of anything, she woke up, and he just wasnt "there" anymore. she did cpr untill paramedics got there. nothing could be done. he hadnt been gone long, he wasnt cold or anything, he just wasnt there anymore. he wasnt breathing or moving. he was gone.

i agree the incident of sids is possibly reduced, but i'm sorry, if your baby is meant to go from sids, there isnt much you're going to be able to do to stop it besides all the things they already tell you. back to sleep, no squishysoft things in the crib... the theory, even probability that you'll sleep lighter is a nice idea, but by the time you notice the lack of breathing noises, unless the baby is an exceptionally loud breather, i doubt will be enough to save a life in MOST cases.

i really hope i'm wrong.

however, cosleeping could be very helpfull in preventing "choking" type deaths. for example, baby is congested, cant breathe well, is sleeping with mom, mom is likely to be hyper sensetive if baby stops breathing for even a second, and will have it on it's side to ease his breathing


considering how not bright my pixel people seem to be when it comes to fires, managing to get to the bathroom before they wet themselves, figuring out that the fridge or the garden is where food is kept... i'm not sure they could figure out co sleeping. but they have an awfully tough time figuring out that babies like cribs to sleep in too. ya know, i dont THINK i go about making my sims exceptionally stupid on purpose, but maybe i do somehow.

[Purity4]

I'm sorry for your friend's loss. I can't even imagine the pain of losing your baby. :cry:

[anifromid2]

Mom was an OB nurse and very superstitious. She'd seen too many prospective fathers go home and dismantle the nursery before their wives came home from the hospital. So, I spent my first few weeks sleeping in a dresser drawer. Maybe that's why I'm such a clothes horse.