Brendan Fraser

[bellavida]

Heya guys-my first time posting on here, so please be kind. :p

I'm currently working on a Brendan Fraser sim (he was in The Mummy, George of the Jungle, Blast From The Past etc for those who don't know him) because I am a MASSIVE Brendan fan and have been for 12 years now. :D

Here is my picture comparison to help you guys help me. :jest:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7669/brendanfrasersimcompari.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/brendanfrasersimcompari.jpg/)

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Any help will be greatly appreciated!

[willmurray]

:gjob: Wow he's a great person to sim, I wanted to make him before but never got around to it.

Things I think needs to be changed are:
~I'm thinking that the tips of his top lips needs to be rounder.
~His jaw should come down a little bit.
~The far side of his eyebrow needs to come down (if you have that CC clider).
~His chin needs to be pulled up.
~He needs smaller contacts, in real his pupils aren't that large. I'd usually advice using Shady's Lively eyes found here. (http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=459942)
~His eyes are too blue, Ive found a pic below which shows hiw eye colour, it needs to be less blue and more grey with a hint of blue.
~The bridge of his nose needs to be wider.
~His bottom lip maybe needs to be just a tiny bit thinner.
~The bottom lid of his eye need to be further up.
~Bring his nostrils down.
~Maybe a little less definition on his nose.
~His chin needs to be a bit more pointy.
~Maybe rotate the tip of his nose up a little bit.

Other than that I don't really think I can tell you any more at the moment, he is looking very good and you've gotten a great start on the sim. The eye colour and contacts need to change (sorry). I can't wait to see your next update :!:

[bellavida]

Brilliant! Thank you for the advice, Will! I'll make the changes you suggested tomorrow and post up and see what everyone thinks! :)

[willmurray]

Your welcome, can't wait for your update!

[Tee Hee Hee]

Great job, the likeness is there already. I wouldn't have needed to be told who it was! :D

[The Merrye Makers]

Eye shape is great! Good job! Eyes need to be just a bit smaller in scale and a little closer together. Mouth a little narrower/less wide and upper lip thicker top to bottom. It might help to decrease the upper lip definition a bit. Chin appears to be slightly too long. He's already very recognizable.

Sorry, I forgot I was signed in to The Merrye Makers! It's SimmyRN.

[bellavida]

Well, my laptop helped LOADS last night by shutting down on me after I had been working ten minutes on updating Brendan so I'm having to start all over again with the update. :( Gonna get on with it now so will post update shortly! :)

[Rileyjcquinn]

I would use a different front view which could be used to help sculpt a more accurate picture.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AJ4wGazvdK4/TTovdYcUsxI/AAAAAAAABVI/mcKwPTMzYPI/s1600/Brendan-fraser_02.jpg

I would also have a look at his IMDb Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000409/mediaindex) for some more pictures.

[bellavida]

Right, here's my second attempt. Seeing him in-game, straight away I notice that his chin is masses too big, so I need to remedy, but what do you guys think of the rest of him? :P

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/5362f77e7169f227eaaf789a5c7dda1e4132d73501602ea529e4b05e076452e14g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb%3D5%26quickkey%3Di2p697dl0q9mmm2)

And here's a picture of my update on his own:

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/73f5fd0d95f7f353fef58a2115b779499c299db80b2585d787b5ecde94cd9c1d4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb%3D5%26quickkey%3D3k2co2k012lbwuj)

Click on the pictures to get a bigger version of them.

Also, I'm having a REALLY hard time getting his lips the right shape. Can anyone suggest how I can achieve a more accurate look and maybe some sliders that could help. Bear in mind, I'm using AwesomeMod too. :bunny:

[bellavida]

I found two sliders by #awT to do with lips, so I'm gonna cross my fingers, put them into the game and hope that they work ok with AwesomeMod. I'm gonna try and make an update for Brendan over the next day or so.

Please keep giving me suggestions on how I can improve him though. It is all very much appreciated! :up:

[JAKINCOL]

Wow, hes looking GREAT!!!! Great start, you're almost there!!!

One thing that stands out to me is the upper lid. Work with the eyesocket to bring the lid closer together.

Great job!!!

[donnabbailey]

Hi he's gorgeous! One thing I would change is his eyes. I think your sim's eyes are a bit too big right now. Also, Brendan's eyes are a very unique shape, almost like a teardrop lying on its side. His eyes look like they are MUCH narrower at the inside corner than the outer. Also his eyes look very "sleepy". His upper lids are heavy and droop down to cover the top part of his iris. But I think he's very handsome and already very recognizable.

[bellavida]

Cool! Thanks for the feedback, guys, :) Gonna be working on Brendan over the next couple of days, so will be posting another update soon! :)

[donnabbailey]

May I suggest this hair (http://store.thesims3.com/productDetail.html?&productId=OFB-SIM3:38574&categoryId=&scategoryId=11971&ppcategoryId=&gender=female&startAt=0) from the Sims3 Store? It looks pretty much identical to Brendan's hair in your reference photos.

[bellavida]

Hiya, Donna, I already tried that hair with Brendan and it sits waaaaay too far up on the forehead and kind of sits too high. Thanks for the suggestion, though!

[bellavida]

And who is the saddo who's disagreed with my Brendan sim just for the sake of it? Get a life. LOL.

Anyhoo, bitter people aside, got my music on full blast and I'm ready to do some more Sim editing! :D Expect an update by the end of today! :up:

UPDATED

Right, here is the comparison between Brendan v3 and the much better comparison picture I was given (can't believe I have over 3000 pics of Brendan on my computer and I didn't have this one!)...

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/c7b97fa0a801740cdce4e423bf51ec290e7127b3e86425f146d2032e09d1b32a4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb%3D5%26quickkey%3D9vztp0g0o3btma2)

Here is the list of things that I changed:

Changed the apex of the eyes so that they have that 'teardrop' look.
Brought the eyes closer together
Changed the eyes (I got Shady's eyes to work for me by having them as my game defaults)
Messed around with the nose a bit (can't remember specifically what I did)
Altered the shape, width and thickness of Brendan's lips...I still can't get them looking quite right.
Made his face slightly thinner and made the chin rounder and the jaw less severe.
Changed the hairstyle.


There are some things from looking at the comparison pics that I can see need to be changed already, like his eyes need to be much smaller and his jaw still needs some work.....Still, any more feedback will be much appreciated, :bunny:

[SimmyRN]

Nice work! I think the eye bags are too dark. The nose is still a bit long and needs to be wider at the nasal bridge as well as the nose itself - perhaps decrease the definition. The nose tip mass needs to be bigger. The "1st attempt" nose was actually closer, I believe. Can you make the jaw any lower? Or, if you shorten the nose and bring the mouth up, that might work. Chin should be shorter and more square, I think. Bottom lip looks pretty close. The model has a very heart shaped upper lip - maybe decrease the definition some more? Ears need to turn out a little more. Can the skin be more pale? If you can, maybe lighten the eyebrows and hair color. The model is actually quite fair. The sim is starting to look a bit latino.

[willmurray]

Whoa, go bellavida!
He is looking really good now, I can really see Brendan in him.

A few things that need to be changed are:
~His chin needs to come up quite alot.
~The jaw should come down.
~I think he should have more of a yellow skin tone, than a pinky one.
~His nose needs to come up a bit.
~The tips of his top lip need to be rounder.
~I'm thinking that the bridge of his nose should be wider.
~Rotate his ear forward a bit.
~I'd give him a bit of a natural pink lip colour, this (http://shyneinnocence.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/realipstick-male-and-female-teen-to-elder-dedicated-to-cecesuan/) one is very nice and natural.
~Bring his nostrils down a bit, Brendans are practically in line with his nose septum.
~His eyebrows need to be lighter and a bit more brown than gingery.
~Maybe a bit less definition on his nose.
~You could possibly make his chin a bit more wide.
~Reduce the eyebag.
~A bit more scale on his nostrils.
~Maybe you could lower the bottom eyelid, the bottom of Brendans pupil isn't covered with his eye lid.
~You could change his eyebrows, they should be more natural and less drawn on.
~Rotate his nose up a little bit.
~Change his hair back to the first one, it fitted the shape of his head the best.
~The roots of his hair seem to be a bit too dark.
~Increase the scale of his ears a bit.
~I'm thinking that you may need another CC eyebrows, sorry.

He is looking good, although I think that your second attempt on him was a bit better I think that it's the playing around with his nose that has ruined him a little bit. I'mk not trying to sound mean or anything, actually I'm just trying to help. Well done though!

[bellavida]

Thanks for your feedback, guys. Willmurray, I don't think you're being mean at all - I really do appreciate the feedback because I want to get Brendan looking as realistic as possible! :)

No matter what I try, I can't get the lips to look like Brendan's at all - does anyone have any sliders/tips that could help me achieve the right shape?

Right! Downloaded about five or six different kinds of male eyebrows now, so I'll try them all on Brendan when I have another stab at this later! :up:

[adele_ant]

Heya guys! :)

Just letting you guys know that this is the creator of Brendan (bellavida) - I've been using my Mum's account to post up until now, but since I'm now moving into making Sims on here, I wanted my own account. :) I'll be posting updates under this account from now on! :bunny:

[willmurray]

I think that's really cool that both you and your mum like the sims, I wish mine did. I'm glad you don't think that I was being mean, and I am really looking forward to your update.

[adele_ant]

Right here is version 4 of Mr Fraser - I've tried to implement as many changes as I could that were suggested but I couldn't find any better CC eyebrows so decided to lighten them up instead and I think they look better now.

http://s12.postimage.org/s7rs4goh9/brendanv4.jpg

I still think that the eyes need to be made smaller and I can't do anything, no matter how hard I try, with his top lip. It's proving a real headache! :lol:

[adele_ant]

Right here is version 4 of Mr Fraser - I've tried to implement as many changes as I could that were suggested but I couldn't find any better CC eyebrows so decided to lighten them up instead and I think they look better now.

http://s12.postimage.org/s7rs4goh9/brendanv4.jpg

I still think that the eyes need to be made smaller and I can't do anything, no matter how hard I try, with his top lip. It's proving a real headache! :lol:

Forgot to add that any more feedback or advice on how to make my Sim better would be much appreciated! :)

Had another go at the Sim this aftie and here is my effort:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/377171_2549086599941_1037112519_2867755_1571734533_n.jpg

[willmurray]

Ok then, he is looking good. Although I'm not feeling that strong resemblence that much.

A few things that need to changed are:
~I think he needs more of a yellow skin tone, it's looking too pink.
~Bring the lower lid of his eye up.
~Move the inner eye corner of his eye up.
~Maybe add a bit more width on his nasal bridge.
~The tips of his top lip need to be more curved, try using #aWT's slider.(he's posted a mediafire link so we can now download them again).
~He still needs a lip colour because they look a bit plain. It may help.
~Bring his nose up just a little bit.
~Move his up, it's too long.
~Possibly decrease the widthh of his head.
~His check bones seem to be a bit too "defined", soften them out.
~Rotate his eyes a tad.
~The sides of his jaw should be a bit more rounder.
~His eyebrows are a bit too dark, lighten them.
~You could maybe add a bit more definition to the nose.
~Rotate the corners of his mouth down a bit.
~Give hime some eyelids, I'd recommened Dutch's found here. (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=453895)
~Maybe we should see some more nostril.
~Try a few different eyebrows, this one doesn't match very well.
~Move his bottom lip up a little bit.
~Decrease the width of his mouth, by quite a bit.
~Make his jaw a bit less wide.
~The chin and jaw need to be more round.
~The eyes should be a bit more, erm squinty.
~His nasal bridge need to buldge a bit.
~Rotate his nose up just a little bit.
~Raise his eyebrows just a tiny little tad.
~Bring his eyes closer together.

I think that he's coming along quite nicely, there is a little bit of a resemblence there. I hope I've helped you, looking forward to your next update.

[adele_ant]

Gosh, this making Sim thing is much harder than I thought. LOL. It's so hard when you've been looking at the same Sim for hours on end to then continually pick out things that need to be changed.

Also, I noticed that in the time period between the two reference pics, Brendan has had some 'work' done. If you look at the space between his eyebrows and his eyes on the 'floppy hair' pic, there is a bigger gap than the other pic, which makes me think that he's had surgery of some kind...like an eye or face lift or something. ><

I will get there, I promise! Thanks again for the help, willmurray! :)

Now I'm narked....tried to download all of the sliders I'll need from #awt and it's been set to an invite only blog now. Does anyone know any place where I can get the sliders I need or how to contact the owner of #awt so I can get permission to access the sliders, please?

[willmurray]

Celebrities have sugery and face lifts all the time, so it can be quite hard to find resource pics where they look exactly the same. As for #aWT's sliders, I think we're just going to have to work without them although they would have been very usefull. The site may just be like that so that he can fix his download links, not sure. I hate it when you get to that stage with a sim that you can't think of what else to do with them, it becomes work just to have a look and try and edit your sim. I think that you could really do with a cupid's bow slider, there is one out there I just can't remember where it's found. It may be found at Ladyfrontbums blog. I think in the in-game pics we need some more lights, and white walls because the background is a little bit destracting and is changing that picture a bit. He is coming along very nicely and I don't think that he is looking bad at all. Just have a go without the sliders if you can't find them and post your update, if it's bad then we'll just go back and have another go. Well done!

[adele_ant]

YET ANOTHER UPDATE! LOL!!!!

I'm actually really proud of this update - got really determined with it this afternoon! I know there are some things that still need to be edited, but for nearly my 6th edit, I think this is MUCH better! LOL!

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387661_2562570537031_1037112519_2872875_2091159615_n.jpg

And here is what I have noticed to be changed still:

Make his chin shorter
Make his head slightly wider
Eyebrows less curved
Corners of mouth down
Lower lid up slightly

[willmurray]

Much better, his eyes have improved alot. Well done, I'd have to agree with the things that you've noticed.
You really should be proud of this update!

Some more things I think need to be changed are:
~The nasal bridge needs to buldge in the middle a bit.
~Make his chin much smaller.
~His brows seem too arched now, smooth them out a little bit.
~Rotate his nose up a tad.
~Move his nose up.
~His eyes need to be more closed, than open.
~Change his brow colour, they are looking way too dark and ginger.
~He looks like he's smiling rotate his mouth corners down, it may just be him smiling in the game.
~His forehead looks too big.
~Darken his eye colour just a little bit.
~Bring his bottom eye lid up a little bit.
~Decrease his eye bag, make it blend in a bit more.
~Move his eyes down just a tad.
~His bottom lip needs to be less thick.
~I think that there needs to be a smoother transition between his nose and the rest of his face.
~The tips of his top lip need to be rounder, the lip width slider may achieve this.
~There is something up with his skin tone, it just doesn't match, your is too pink.
~His face seems a bit too long.
~We need to be able to see more nostril, if you get what I mean.
~His nostrils need to be brought down just a tiny little bit.

I'm not sure what else to tell you, because he is looking very close to Brendan himself. Well done and you should be very proud, this is the best update yet.

[adele_ant]

I have made a little bit of an update since I last posted, but I want to work on him some more before I post up. Things I have changed so far are:

. Reduced the arch in his eyebrows
. Taken the chin up
. Rotated the mouth corners down
. Bottom eye lid moved up slightly
. Reduced thickness on bottom lip

To be honest, I don't think I'll be able to get the bulge in the bridge of his nose looking right. It's bothered me from Day One and I've spent ages trying to get it to look right, but no joy. It's the same with the tips of the top lip too - I will try using the lip width slider and see if that makes a difference, but to be honest, I think that's as close as I'm going to get. :(

As well, the skintone is a real headache because I've tried him with other skintones and because the shadowing and highlights on the other skins are different, he looks really weird and his looks change dramatically.

Thanks again for your help! :)

[willmurray]

Looking forward to seeing your update, it may take you a few hours to find out how to sort out the nose buldge. I think that it can be done. ;)

[adele_ant]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/390438_2581557011681_1037112519_2879283_1181534432_n.jpg

This is a picture of the updates I have made so far. Not the final update, but just wanted to show how it was going so far. :)

Btw, Will, do you have any suggestions for skins that may make my Brendan sim look better?

[adele_ant]

Right, definitive update time: here is version 7 of Mr Fraser and Will, you were right! I got the top lip right with the width slider AND I think I kind of got the idea with the nose bridge! *fingers crossed*

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380920_2587904610367_1037112519_2882078_2092707908_n.jpg

[willmurray]

I'm glad I could help, he is looking quite realistic now.

There are just a few things that I would edit:
~His top lip needs to be thinner.
~Still bring his chin up a tiny little bit.
~Make his brows a little bit less arched (a bit more flat).
~I'm thinking that his brows need to be a bit thinner.
~Widen his jaw a bit.
~His fore head is looking a too big, not sure how to fix that.
~Rotate the corners of his mouth up a bit, not much.
~The apex needs to be further up on the inner corner.

Honestley I'm not sure what else to say, he is looking very good.
It isn't an amazing resemblance, but there is a good one.
Well done, keep it up!

[heaven]

I agree with the above poster. Also, do you have him as adult or YA? Not sure if that's been addressed yet.

[willmurray]

Brendan is 43 so I'd say that he needs to be an adult. If he is a young adult, then you should definatley change him to an adult. It won't change the way that he looks.

[heaven]

Actually, it WILL change how he looks some. Nothing that can't be edited a bit but it does change the lips especially that I have noticed.

[willmurray]

Oh sorry, I haven't ever realized that. But I'm sure that you could edit it back to normal.

[willmurray]

I've found all of the sliders from #aWT that you'll need, they are mediafire downloads. I found them on WCIF, I hope that they'll help.

Here they are:
#aWT nose septum sliders - here (http://www.mediafire.com/?nq1yf8hc69ygff8)
#aWT upper lip sliders - here (http://www.mediafire.com/?952j8ce97x64cpe)
#aWT nostril rotate sliders - here (http://www.mediafire.com/?ebqhum8k6ck1ckb)
#aWT slider hack 3x - here (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=462743)

I hope that it'll help, as I know that these were the sliders that you though you needs to fix his lips.
Looking forward to your next update!

[adele_ant]

Aw, thanks, Will! :)

I've made a couple of changes to him since my last update already but I think I may just try and submit him as he is now and see if he is accepted. If not, I'll go back to the drawing board and try again. :)

Now, I need to work out how to submit him. :p

And I've had Brendan as an Adult sim since the very start because of his age and also because I wanted the age detail on his face that comes with being an Adult sim. :)

SUBMITTED AND NOW WAITING FOR APPROVAL/REJECTION. *gulp*

[willmurray]

i really hope that he gets accepted, if not then you'll get some great advice from the mods. Fingers Crossed!

[adele_ant]

Darn it. Afraid Brendan got rejected. Here is what I was told:

What a great person you've chosen to turn into a sim, he's one good actor!
You've got the facial proportions nicely going on already, but the face still needs more work to resemble the real guy enough. It's often about paying attention to things that may seem petty, but usually it's actually these small things that make a big difference in making a sim.

Here's some suggestions and observations on what more precisely are in need of tweaking:

-The inner eye corners could be lowered a bit, to give the eyes more of a relaxed look. Also, you could try these eye brows, the have pretty much exactly the right kind of shape! (the #7): http://eviesims.blogspot.com/search/label/Eye%20Brows

-The nose needs to be raised more, when comparing the pictures
-The jawline could use more definition
-To achieve the right mouth shape, try raising the mouth curve more upwards.
-The real guy's cheekbones aren't quite that prominent. Try moving the cheekbone slider a bit more to the left!


You are really close already, we hope that these suggestions will help you to achieve even closer resemblance.

[Redhead Creations]

It never hurts to get more feedback! I think with their suggested changes, you're going to get even that much closer!

[willmurray]

Oh well, try to make the changes that the mods have said. Post some more pics here are see if we can help you even more, it can never hurt to try and get some more feedback. Good Luck!

[adele_ant]

Ok, here is my update...I followed the advice that I was given and had two attempts at rectifying what was wrong with the Sim. Here is the pic I am working from and version 8 and 9...
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/388745_2627142591292_2012924324_n.jpg
...and here is a half/half facial comparison with my source picture and version 9 of my Sim...
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374740_2627142991302_1037112519_2898109_41379199_n.jpg

[Rennara]

Oh..Wow..superduper!! Just one thing stands out and that is his eyebrows...rl is more arched.

[Redhead Creations]

Also (I'm not sure of the slider names), but can you try playing with the "apex" of the lower lid? See how RL Brennan's inner corners are kind of squinty on the bottom lid? If you could recreate that, that would go a long way. After all, eyes are certainly the hardest part!

It also seems that his whole head could be just a SMIDGE wider?

[adele_ant]

This is very true-his eyes are a pain. LOL!

[willmurray]

I agree with the mods, he looks very much like Brendan but you just need to tweak some more.

A few things that I have noticed are:
~You need to bring up his nose a little bit.
~Move his eyes closer together.
~His lips are a bit too wide.
~His nose septum needs to be thinner.
~The brows need to be a bit more arched.
~Bring his eyes down a tiny little bit.
~Thin down his top lip also a tiny bit.
~The nose need to be a bit thinner.
~Widen his head a little bit.

He is looking very good, and looks a lot like the real Brendan
there isn't much more work to do I'd say. We just need to tweak
and fix a few angles of his face, I've only noticed a few things
that need to be changed I'm sure others can find a few more.
Although he still doesn't look exactly like the real Brendan, a
few more tweaks and I'm sure that we can get him looking
amazing. I'm really looking forward to seeing your next updates,
because I really like this sim and want him in my game quite
badly. Well done so far, I hope that you keep going with this
project because it's almost finished. Keep it up!

[Redhead Creations]

I just noticed as well that RL Brennan doesn't seem to have any kind of prominent cheekbones. Is there a way to lower the sim's as they seem kind of high? (Again, I am no expert at making sims, so I don't know the limitations).

But I totally agree with Will, you are VERY close and I can't wait to see the next update!

[adele_ant]

Aw thank you, guys - you are so kind! ^_^ I didn't attempt to update my Sim yesterday because I tweaked a nerve in my back so was in pain most of the day so didn't do much. Will have an attempt this afternoon!

UPDATE: Right, here we are. Taken everyone's ideas on board and changed my Sim accordingly...what think? Here's a side by side photo comparison as well as a half/half face comparison. :)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/373858_2637732376030_1037112519_2901464_722036758_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381889_2637732896043_1037112519_2901465_1365968129_n.jpg

Yes, I have posted the right set of pictures up, I assure you. :rofl: There are small updates that have been made.

[adele_ant]

Dammit...I forgot to lower the cheekbones...will do that on the next update. :)

[adele_ant]

Is anyone still interested in Mr Fraser?

Does anyone think that he is good enough to try to upload again?

[willmurray]

Hey adele ant,
I'm still very interested in making him, although I wouldn't try to upload him yet. Just give it a bit more time, you'll get there eventually.
If you need more help then just post another update, I can still see a few more things to change.
I hope you keep going...

[adele_ant]

Will do! Will do some work on him tomorrow. :) Got tired out wrapping presents!

[adele_ant]

Ok, worked on him for a little bit this evening, so here is version 11:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/383307_2685768736909_1037112519_2926949_1759815780_n.jpg

[SimmyRN]

He's looking really close. Good work! The things I see are that the eyes need to be a bit smaller in scale or squintier at the outer corners; the eyes need to be a little closer together; nasal bridge may need to come down; nasal bridge a bit narrower, as well. The whole nose above the nostrils narrower, possibly. Mouth shape looks fabulous but both lips are a little too wide. Chin a tiny bit narrower. Try pulling the cheekbones up just a little. Jaw shape, ears, and eyebrows look spot on to me.

[adele_ant]

V12 of Mr Fraser coming up.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395036_2688327960888_1037112519_2928859_1937379308_n.jpg

I've made all of the changes you suggested, SimmyRN. :) Thanks for your feedback. :bunny:

[willmurray]

Heya, so glad your getting back to work on him again.
I have to say, this new version is looking very good.

A few things that I have noticed are:
~His nostrils need to be lowered.
~Bring his chin up a tiny little bit.
~The bottom lip needs to be a bit rounder.
~Move his nose up a tad.
~His eyebag needs to be lightened, they're too dark.
~Brendan has more of a yellow skin tone, I can't tell you where to find one.
~Both brows need to be moved up a little bit.
~Bring his jaw downwards.
~Make his septum a little bit thinner, #aWT's site is now back up.

He is looking very good, and there isn't really that much
to do anymore. His top lip is causing some what of an
issue, they need to be more curved some how although
I'm really not sure how to do that. The eyebrows are
looking a bit too much of a dark ginger, they need to be
more of a lighter brown. As I've said above, the skin tone
that your using isn't working because of the colour, you
need a skin more of a yellow colour. There are quite a few
out there but I'm just not sure where they are. Well done
so far, he looks amazing. Keep it up and post your next
update as soon as possible!

[adele_ant]

I'll be starting editing celeb sims again after the New Year, guys, so expect updates then. :)

EDIT: Ok, decided to update Brendan more today (need the distraction) so will post another post later on. :) :king:

EDIT OF THE EDIT: Don't believe it. Just spent half an hour editing Brendan just for my computer to crash on me before I'd saved. -_- Here's to another half hour of editing then. LOL.

[adele_ant]

Right, here is version 13, I took most of the points you made into my editing, Will. :) The only thing that I have left as it is is the skintone. I have real problems with that because if I use any other kind of skintone with this sim, he looks really odd and not like Brendan at all, so I've decided I'll stick with this skin. :)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386601_2717883859767_1037112519_2948257_1727139214_n.jpg

I'm gonna try submitting this version and seeing where that gets me. I've sincerely run out of ideas to get him looking any closer to the real deal now.

SUBMITTED - fingers crossed, guys!!! :bunny:

[willmurray]

He looks good, although I'm sorry I can still see things that need changing.
I'm not sure weather or not he'll get accepted or not, but sure fingers crossed.
If he doesn't get accepted then never mind, trust me there isn't much further to go.

[Audrey]

He is looking very recognisable but there are a few things I would tweak.

Lower lip is a bit too full.
Eyebrows too thick.
Use the jaw slider in the main face section to make his jaw from chin to where it rounds less heavy. It is a bit heavy-looking.
His nostrils need to be reduced a tiny bit.
He needs age lines on the forehead.

Oh, I see you have uploaded him. Well, good luck. If he doesn't get through, try and fix the above.

[malfoya]

I agree with Audrey about the eyebrows and lips. I think lips in general are too full.
Nose could be a little shorter. Either that or you can just make it smaller..
It's a pretty good sim! Not the easiest celebrity to make so I hope you finish him! ^^

[willmurray]

I have to agree with what has been said above, they are exactly the things that I'd noticed.
If he doesn't get through then just post another update here, next time I'd say that you should
wait and ask us if anything else needs changing before uploading him. Incase we can see
something else to change. He is a very good sim at the moment, but there still is a little bit
more tweaking to go. That top lip is creating some what of an issue, I'm not too sure how to fix
it, we may need to get some expert advice! There may be some sliders out there that round the tips
of the top lip, there may be one at #aWT's blog, it's now open again to the public. But of course you
probably know that it's back up and running. I think that you may need to thin down his brows a bit,
if you have the slider that I'm talking about if not then I'd be happy to post a link to the download page.
He is looking very good, I'm not really sure why I'm writing this as he may get accepted anyways.
Fingers crossed for you, but don't be dishearted if he doesn't get through.

[adele_ant]

Am still waiting for notice on whether he has been accepted or not...*twiddles thumbs*

[willmurray]

They sometimes take quite a while to take a look at it.

[willmurray]

Has he not been accepted?
Just wondering because we haven't heard from you in a while,
if so don't worry and don't delete him.

[adele_ant]

I got rejected again because apparently, my Sim looks nothing like Brendan, so I've decided that I'm not going to submit the Sim again to MtS, but instead, I'll put up what I deem my completed Sim on my Sims blog (Cupcake Sims) http://cupcakesims.blogspot.com/ in a few days. :) I may pick up this project in the future but I have a lot of health problems I need to address first.

[malfoya]

I think you should rather concider getting some more feedback. The problem is that you submitted him before he was ready. I can see several things myself that should be done differently which I stated in my last post. Especially his eyes isn't quite there yet. But you have a really good start so I think you should continue on him.

[willmurray]

I agree with Malfoya, you need to reconsider.
He isn't really very far off, and I'd like to help for as long as it takes.
Although the decision is entirely up to you.