Is anyone not going to buy Showtime?

[Hyleath5560]

I am torn. I am not really interested in the things showtime offers. Such as performing or the send seems to perform in other games. I am addicted to the sims and tend to buy EP that I don't use. Such as World Adventure. Is anyone else not going to buy showtime?

[ani_]

I'm not interested in the main features either, but I'm still getting it for the new things it brings. New objects, new interactions, new things for my Sims to do.

[RoseCity]

I may get it at some point, but I haven't been playing Sims 3 much lately, so can't really justify the expense of another EP.

[simrealtor]

Well I just took a look around - I personally love all of the new buy items and trees and cannot wait to start building with them. If you don't want to take a risk of spending the money though, I am running a drawing for a free copy of Showtime Limited Edition for those who like My Sim Realty on Facebook :)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Sim-Realty/253276144688174

[CowPlantsForHire]

I'm not buying Showtime, either. I never found the whole your Sims trying to become famous via advancing one of the three Showtime careers (or becoming friends with the Socialites of Late Night) very appealing, interesting, or fun. If you don't host your friend's Sim or your friend doesn't host your Sim in their game via Simport, then you'll miss out on a bunch of items that will be locked unless you use that feature. Not to mention, you'll have to host 45 shows for your friend's Sim AND you must have your Sim perform 45 shows in their game to unlock all the Simport-exclusive items! Too repetitive and time-consuming --- and not in a fun way, either!

In fact, other than becoming famous, what else can my Sims do? I don't think this is related to the Expansion Pack, but I've read a lot of complaints regarding Patch 1.31 since it was released on the official The Sims 3 website a few days ago and that it is causing problems to people's games (typical EA, releasing half-baked content). Eh, no thanks. I'll just hold onto Patch 1.29 as long as I can, even if it means I can't install future Expansion Packs onto my computer (I currently own none).

[PoisonFrog]

I don't have Origin installed, so the social features probably wouldn't be a problem. The Showtime concept doesn't sound like it's well implemented from what I'm reading, so I guess it hinges on what else the expansion adds to the game. So far, the pool table is the most appealing thing I've seen. I liked the pool table in Sims 2 and am wondering how this one measures up against it...I haven't seen any enlightening comments about this yet.

Either way, I'll hang back a while and let the dust settle before I do anything, given EA's past history with game stability and integrity.

[kattenijin]

I'll get it...eventually. Probably will be the last EP I buy, depending on what comes out next.

[bassoon_crazy]

I have no intention of buying it. It just seems like Late Night part 2 with social features I'd never use.

Next Expansion Pack, please.

[calisims]

I won't go as far as to say I'm not ever going to buy it. I have no plans to buy it now or in the near future, but maybe someday. Maybe.

[Suncat]

I don't see myself buying it anytime soon. The theme of performing is not one that interests me, personally. Even without the intrusion of the icky social features, I would have been iffy on it due to lack of interest.

[DigitalSympathies]

I had to go out and buy the Katy Perry edition for my sister.

I think I just died a little inside.

[Hyleath5560]

LOL wow died inside.

[jweslake]

I haven't really looked into this EP, but I did read a little bit about it on sims.wikia.com. In my opinion, the traits that come with this EP are just rehashing of old traits. The Social Butterfly trait seems like a combination of Charismatic and Friendly with a touch of Over-Emotional. Diva seems like a combination of Snob, Dramatic, and Star-Quality. Natural Born Performer is exactly like Star Quality for being famous, and reminds me of that other Lifetime Reward thing you can get to be better at professions. The new jobs seem tedious like professions are. Don't get me wrong, they were fun to play through a few times, but after that they lose their charm and become tedious. (Go to house, suck up ghost, go to next house, suck up ghost. Go to Science Facility and sell spirits. Go to sleep. Wake up and repeat. I would rather just send them to a rabbithole than waste time watching them to make sure they're not wetting themselves are starting the place on fire.)

As for the Lifetime Rewards, they too look boring (except for the lamp!). Born to cook is just stupid. My Sims learn to cook from a very young age. The ones who are actually chefs have the Natural Cook trait (or w/e it's called) and cook every meal for their household. They don't need help becoming better. I can't see myself ever using this. The next one listed on sims.wikia is Dusty Old Lamp. It'd be neat to have a genie like in the Sims 1, but once again I can't see myself using this often, UNLESS you can wish bad things for other Sims. MUAHAHAHA. Moving on, Engaging and I Did That On Purpose Lifetime rewards pertain to the new careers, which I do not have any interest in and thus will never use. Fearless Voyager and Perfect Host deal with that new Simportal thing or whatever it's called, which I also am not interested in and will never use. Last is the ExtraOrdin-AIR-inator or whatever it's called. That one seems incredibly boring. My Sims do not meditate! They are evil and spend their time doing evil things.

None of the new venues sound like they will have any use unless you plan to do the SimPortal thing. In my rebuilt Sunset Valley I already have a few bars that never EVER have Sims in them besides the damn bartenders anyways, why do I need to waste more space in my 'hood with buildings that never get used? Maybe the new coffeeshop will come with some kind of coffee or food stand. We can only hope.

Lots of people seem to be pumped for the pool tables finally coming back. I already have Nightlife, which came with bargames, so I don't even care. Having pool tables just means I have to edit my damn town again to add them into a few of the bars, which already have limited space and no visitors, so who are my Sims going to play pool with anyways?

TL;DR: Basically, this EP feels empty to me. Completely empty of anything useful. None of the social features interest me, the careers are boring, the new traits suck, the new Lifetime Rewards suck, and there aren't many new (useful) items. I may buy it in the future if some awesome CC comes out that requires it, but probably not.
EDIT: And Katy Perry sucks. She is not coming anywhere near my Sims game, even if it means I can kill her in-game at any time. But she's only in the special edition, right?

[lewisb40]

The shocker for me :blink: is I am not running to go get the EP. I am not interested in the new show business styled gamplay, I only wanted 3 things, pool table, dominoes, photobooth. After that, meh.

I will probably get it some time down the road. :)

[DigitalSympathies]

I got a passive-aggressive ring from the people at the gaming site I do PC games reviews for (namely, EA, Maxis, Bethesda and Valve, there's two other people who do the others) and they said "GET THE GAME AND GIVE US A REVIEW OR WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU YOUR FIVE HUNDRED QUID."

/sighs and boots up little green and white icon cough cough

[Mishy]

i have not felt a 'buy showtime itch' yet, which i did feel with all the previous EP's.
and reading the opinions till now, i dont think i will be buying anytime soon.

[fraroc]

I refuse to participate in possibly one of EA's most OBVIOUS cash-in attempts yet.

[Redhead Creations]

I'm with the others that say this is the first time I haven't been excited about an EP. Actually, I wasn't that excited about Pets (I'm one of those Weather Wanters), so, for me this whole game is steadily declining. Which is sad. =(

Of course, what they've done is include some really fun objects to try and tempt me to get it. But this doesn't have the look or feel of a TRUE EP, all they've done is add three more Ambitions Professions. (And a host of social aspects that it doesn't sound like anyone wanted nor asked for).

[PunkyBreester]

I'm definitely out. I've never missed an EP, EVER, since TS1... but this? Ugh.

In fact, I would have to think long and hard about installing it (before eventually deciding not to) even if someone gave it to me as a gift!

I'm also avoiding this patch for as long as I can get away with it.

[KKiryu007Joker]

Oh yuck no, I didn't even get Pets. Showtime looks like crap.

[Orilon]

I'm not going to buy it. I'm not interested in it, and don't see the point of buying something I'm not interested in.

[rockergrrl37203]

I'll probably get it eventually - not right now through. I like to wait a couple of months before I buy a new EP, unless it's just irresistible.

[Tibbits]

I didnt buy it either. most of the content offered in this expansion should have been in Late Night. I dont really like the general direction EA has taken the sims franchise in. the half arsed and buggy expansions, cash shop, and now forced social networking have put me off big time. I dont think things will change any time soon though . these days i am honestly having more fun replaying the sims 2 anyway.

[tiffyandthewall]

I'm not rushing to buy it. I'm just installing Pets now (another I wasn't terribly excited about but am looking forward to now) so I'm going to enjoy that and hopefully by the time I get used to/tired of Pets, all of the issues with SHT will be worked out and it'll be worth buying. I'm half excited about SHT (genies! and some other stuff!) and half disappointed (it doesn't really seem like a big step? and katy perry...), but I'm sure I'll end up buying it eventually. I never played a lot of the TS2 EPs that I've been seeing SHT compared to, so I'm curious.

[Miuki]

Meh...I'll wait until it will be tested more and then patched, and maybe patched again...and when the price will go down and modders will unlock all simport rewards. I do like the interactive objects, but as many players only recently conquered PETS glitches and don't want to go down that road again.

[DigitalSympathies]

Welp. After HOURS of trying different fixes, I give up. The damn expansion pack will. not. start.

[haricots]

DigitalSympathies : Whut is your problem?

[Baiaana]

I'm not buying it either. I'm not interested in the "social thing" mayve the dj career is interesting but i will not spend money only for that. I will be interested in a megapack including new build and buy possibilities, new clothing, hair and objects.

[sandymdh]

It's the first EP I haven't pre-ordered. It doesn't help that it comes out the day Mass Effect 3 does here and I have a teenage son with a birthday who wants the collector's edition. Anyhoo I may buy it when it's at a price that warrants it as I too only want the pool table. I noticed on Amazon that Ambitions is half its original price and I can see the price on this dropping like a lead balloon when they realise that the teens it's aimed at aren't necessarily the ones with the funds to buy it. I haven't even played the band career so have no interest in the gameplay additions that this offers.

[Digitalchaos]

LOL wow died inside.World of War Craft? :wtf:

[opiumgirl]

I won't be getting this. It makes me sad because I have all the EP's since sims1.
I just can't be bothered with this stupid EP, hell I don't even like Late Night so what is the point?
The funny thing is that my husband keeps asking when I'll be getting Showtime. He knows after all these years that if a new EP comes out we'll be taking a trip to the shop.:)

I am really disappointed in EA, their blatant moneywh%ring is becoming impossible to ignore in almost all the games they have been releasing lately. It makes me sick, EA is the devil as far as I am concerned.

[katya_stevens]

Maybe in the future when the big bugs have been modded/patched out, we have news on whether you can unlock the Simport rewards without using Simport, and when its price gets down to ~50% of its RRP (aside from Pets, I've gotten all my EPs half price). My game is stable and I'm happy with it, and I'm loathe to go up a patch level/EP until I have to or unless it fixes some major bugs I've been experiencing (like patch 1.29 fixing the fluffy pets issue).

[Beezer]

Like many others have said, I won't be getting it either. The saddest thing is unlike some other expansions where I initially said I wasn't gonna get them I have still not developed any desire to run out and buy it. If anything I am even more set on not getting it. Maybe if it gets really cheap or something but even then, meh.

It has already messed up my game though even without buying it. I refuse to install origins and they claimed I wouldn't have to since Mac users can't even get origins. However, ever since they switched the stupid sims3 site stuff and I was forced to register a username at origins in order to log into the exchange and forum my launcher does not work. It pulls up a log in box in front of the launcher but then the box like freezes and won't let me type anything in it. I have to use my task manager to end the process. I realize there are work arounds for getting the updates and bypassing the launcher but frankly I haven't found it worth wasting the time on at the moment, that also makes me sad :(. In the old days I woulda jumped all kinds of hoops to play.

[Nekochild]

Not going to be getting this due to participating in Black March, but maybe in April or sometime I'll look into it. Most likely I'll be passing it up though. It just doesn't seem interesting to me.

[happygolucky]

I probably wouldnt have purchased it, had I known that bands wouldnt be integrated into the shows. It's the silliest thing I've ever heard! Bands are already broken, in that for many of us, we NEVER get gigs. But to not have them be able to put on a show in showtime too.. That's just totally ridiculous!

[kennyinbmore]

I am torn. I am not really interested in the things showtime offers. Such as performing or the send seems to perform in other games. I am addicted to the sims and tend to buy EP that I don't use. Such as World Adventure. Is anyone else not going to buy showtime?

I'm on my new EP boycott until I get weather. My last one was for Pets.

[Fyendiar]

I wasn't planning on it, but ended up buying it anyway. :faceslap:

Now anxiously waiting for the release to see if it was money well spend. Wasn't too expensive though, 35 euro which included a 15 euro voucher which I bought Hot Pursuit with for those moments I think to myself: "Mate, you are a grown man that spends way too much time playing with virtual dolls in a simulated world, time to fill up on your testosterone and go race like a madman!"
:beer:

[noxnoxnox]

I probably wouldnt have purchased it, had I known that bands wouldnt be integrated into the shows. It's the silliest thing I've ever heard! Bands are already broken, in that for many of us, we NEVER get gigs. But to not have them be able to put on a show in showtime too.. That's just totally ridiculous!
How could you not know it? It's a main point in our pre-SHT talk. :heyhey:

[zigersimmer]

I have no interest in SHT whatsoever. Also no interest in Master Suite Stuff. I wonder if EA will ever release any new things for Sims 3 that I will want to buy.

[iheartcowcapoos]

i'm not going to get it. i don't feel like it's worth the $40. not many of the features interest me. I don't care much for the whole performing aspect and earning badges. to me, it seems it will be the kind of game play that ambitions introduced with their new professions i.e. doctor, stylist, architect, etc. These were new and fun at the beginning but i didn't like the style of gameplay. i spent my entire sim day focusing on one single sim and doing tedious things over and over while all my other sims were running around doing unproductive things like staring at the tv for 3 hours instead of interacting with each other or at least building skills or working on something constructive. i didn't like that the attention was given to only one sim while the others were left to do their own thing.

i am also let down by the whole sim port thing. when i first heard about it i thought we were really going to be able to go into our friends games and run around and do whatever we wanted. like for example, i could start a relationship with a sim in my friends game. i see now that a lot of that would be unrealistic (unless EA really tried). i could give less of a crap if my sim went to my friend's game to play some stupid show. i only have 1 friend who plays and she doesn't play that often so i wouldn't use the feature much anyway. i don't want a bunch of randos from TS3 site requesting to be my friend so they can have their sims play in my town.

that brings me to my next point. i don't care much for all the social features they're adding. i know you can turn all of them off and yadda yadda, but i feel this is going to add a lot of fluff to my game and take up more space. why would i want something that i am not going to use taking up space on my computer and slowing down my in-game experience which is already, quite frankly, slow enough as it is? i feel like EA has put a lot of time and effort into working on implementing these social features as well as marketing and advertising them. i feel that they could've used all this time and energy to really create something that more of the community would actually want instead of something a select few want. i don't know about other people, but i've been playing the sims since it was released in 2000 and i play for the simulation. I don't play to make and interact with friends. I am apart of enough social media outlets to get my fix. i play the sims because it is a game, not a social interaction. they could have spent all that time implementing social features to create more objects for the expansion pack itself, instead of creating everything for stuff packs and for the store. i don't buy from the store and i also don't buy stuff packs, so i rely on the community and expansions alone for extra content. needless to say, i rely much more on the community than i do on EA to deliver to us what they used to.

overall, i feel like the features in this game aren't worth $40 of my hard earned money, but rather maybe $10. if the expansion was $10, i'd consider it.

[Glic2003]

Like every expansion pack, I feel it's not worth the high price. I'm also still bitter about the mess they made with Late Night, so I've been on an informal boycott ever since. I would have preferred they go back and fix Late Night rather than create a new EP with similar themes.

But having said that, I would have liked to get Showtime; I like the ideas in it and it does have some of the objects I've been wanting (pool tables, karaoke etc). I just don't want to feel the sting of buyer's remorse again. ;)

TL;DR: I'd buy it if it was $20 instead of $40.

[niiick]

I won't be buying it. I don't feel like it's worth buying.

[heaven]

Like every expansion pack, I feel it's not worth the high price. I'm also still bitter about the mess they made with Late Night, so I've been on an informal boycott ever since. I would have preferred they go back and fix Late Night rather than create a new EP with similar themes.

But having said that, I would have liked to get Showtime; I like the ideas in it and it does have some of the objects I've been wanting (pool tables, karaoke etc). I just don't want to feel the sting of buyer's remorse again. ;)

TL;DR: I'd buy it if it was $20 instead of $40.

That is why I pre-ordered from origin. This is not a usual but there was a deal where you pre-ordered and got a stuff pack free. So, in my mind, I paid $20 for SHT and $20 for the stuff pack. Which works for me. I probably would not have bought it alone though.

[EmotedLlama]

That is why I pre-ordered from origin. This is not a usual but there was a deal where you pre-ordered and got a stuff pack free. So, in my mind, I paid $20 for SHT and $20 for the stuff pack. Which works for me. I probably would not have bought it alone though.

I did the same... and now I'm having to deal with the fact that the game hasn't shipped yet. Even though I pre-ordered it the day before release, I'd still expect it to have shipped by now.

[Glic2003]

That is why I pre-ordered from origin. This is not a usual but there was a deal where you pre-ordered and got a stuff pack free. So, in my mind, I paid $20 for SHT and $20 for the stuff pack. Which works for me. I probably would not have bought it alone though.


Stuff packs are worthless, IMHO.

[sierrakusterbeck]

I might buy it at some point.. I love music more than anything else in the world so I think being able to have my own sims have a band and go on tour is pretty cool. But I don't think I'm gonna buy it any time soon, I'll wait for all the feedback and the mods to be updated :3

[Redhead Creations]

I might buy it at some point.. I love music more than anything else in the world so I think being able to have my own sims have a band and go on tour is pretty cool. But I don't think I'm gonna buy it any time soon, I'll wait for all the feedback and the mods to be updated :3

But that's the thing, you don't have a BAND that can go on tour. It's only one singer. Or one Magician. Or one Acrobat.

They didn't even incorporate the bands into this EP at all.

(All my knowledge comes from what I've read, I don't have the EP).

[heaven]

I did the same... and now I'm having to deal with the fact that the game hasn't shipped yet. Even though I pre-ordered it the day before release, I'd still expect it to have shipped by now.

Oh no! I hope you get your game soon! Mine was waiting for me when I got home from work last night though, admittedly, I haven't even bothered to patch or install yet.

Stuff packs are worthless, IMHO.

That's your opinion and certainly one you are entitled too. I just meant that I agreed that it wasn't worth $40 so justified it by getting 2 games for the price of one. For you, wait until it is cheaper and then see if you want it. :)

But that's the thing, you don't have a BAND that can go on tour. It's only one singer. Or one Magician. Or one Acrobat.

They didn't even incorporate the bands into this EP at all.

(All my knowledge comes from what I've read, I don't have the EP).

This is something I am hoping one of our talented modders can fix. I've not had a band yet (am really a slow poke player and not done many of the EP professions) but a singer for them and on tour would be awesome!

[sierrakusterbeck]

But that's the thing, you don't have a BAND that can go on tour. It's only one singer. Or one Magician. Or one Acrobat.

They didn't even incorporate the bands into this EP at all.

(All my knowledge comes from what I've read, I don't have the EP).
So... I can't make Blink-182 in Sim form? :cry:
Well I'm downloading Late Night now and I heard that you can have bands in that one so my one reason to get Showtime is now gone. I guess I'm not gonna buy it at all!

[Redhead Creations]

Sierra, I hope you don't mind a band with no singer... That's what we get with Late Night. Showtime gives us a singer with no band. Anyone see a gap here? =(

[calisims]

So... I can't make Blink-182 in Sim form? :cry:
Well I'm downloading Late Night now and I heard that you can have bands in that one so my one reason to get Showtime is now gone. I guess I'm not gonna buy it at all!

You can have bands in LN, with no singers. And you can have singers in SHT, but not with a band.

[sierrakusterbeck]

You can have bands in LN, with no singers. And you can have singers in SHT, but not with a band.
I... what
Someone really needs to tell EA how bands work. :faceslap:

[Hyleath5560]

Welp. After HOURS of trying different fixes, I give up. The damn expansion pack will. not. start. Did you try deleting the four caches. Once I did that mine started.

[Hyleath5560]

I broke down and bought it. So far not impressed. I need this site to open a question and answer. Because I am lost with certain things.

[secretsim]

I wish I hadn't bought it. Worst ep yet. There is seriously hardly anything worthwhile here.

[wolfsbayne]

Im not planning on getting it. I was a bit disappointed with pets and my computer didnt like it for ages. If this ep is as bad as everyone says, what's the point. Why do they even bother calling them ep's anymore, surely they're just stuff packs with a little extra and a larger price tag.

[Glic2003]

You can have bands in LN, with no singers. And you can have singers in SHT, but not with a band.

That was one of the big reasons I didn't want to buy SHT, actually. If they had made bands and singers work together, I would have bought it instantly.

The band career in Late Night was a huge disappointment for me because it was so lame, and this would have been their perfect opportunity to fix that.

But noooooo! We're EA and we suck and don't know how to make anything work!

Lame.

[mithrak_nl]

Do I understand this right? I have to log into simport while playing the game to unlock content from this ep?

[sierrakusterbeck]

Do I understand this right? I have to log into simport while playing the game to unlock content from this ep?
Yep, and you have to have a friend to unlock some of the things that you paid for when you bought the game. Sigh

[Shimrod101]

What type of items are locked exactly? Actual objects, like some of the stage props? Or is it the achievement badges which you are supposed to collect? Or?

[mithrak_nl]

Yep, and you have to have a friend to unlock some of the things that you paid for when you bought the game. Sigh

Oh bugger. I really dont want to log into these kind of community things when in a game. I think it is ridiculous to make this mandatory to obtain part of the ep's content. But then I'm also kind of paranoid about the facebook integration. I don't like to be the product of some company for advertising reasons. You don't even get compensated for this, the ep is still just as expensive.
I guess this makes my decision to not buy this ep easier.

[CinderEmma]

I may get it at some point, but I haven't been playing Sims 3 much lately, so can't really justify the expense of another EP.Exactly what I feel, I'll buy it later :)

[Vincyjuc89]

So glad I came on this forum was gonna post something along the same lines wondered if to buy showtime and run the risk of yet another re-install.Seeing as EA continues to treat us like cash cows- this cow is on strike! no milk till I get weather! this eternal sunshine is just not working for me anymore! (would you believe just today me and my friend were having an intellectual property argument and redhead creations' post just adds fuel to my fire...anywayz lemme hush)

This COW is ON STRIKE!!!

[bl00raspbery]

I'm not going to buy it anytime soon. All the new stuff is REALLY cute, but all in all, it's not very appealing as an expansion pack, and certainly not worth $40. Maybe after someone finds a way to get around all this needed "social interaction"... I mean, really, needing your friends to unlock certain things for you? It'd be a cute idea, if there was another way to unlock them as well. I hate the idea that you NEED other people to play the game for certain parts. Like someone else said, I play Sims for a reason, and I have Facebook for a reason. Ugh.

[applefeather2]

The advent of, tada, SHT! Behold: The simpages are taken over by spam to the point of unreadability, CC is being thrown around like confetti... EA will *fix* the problem... hm, let's see now. *Idea!* Nope, won't be getting SHT.

[Nekochanpurr]

Won't be buying this till April. Not buying anything in March. :) Hopefully mods (including awesome) are updating and working well by then as well.

[kattenijin]

I'll get it...eventually. Probably will be the last EP I buy, depending on what comes out next.

Well, I don't have to buy it, ever...I got it as a gift.

[Zokugai]

Well, I don't have to buy it, ever...I got it as a gift.

Same. Not worth paying your own money for, but it's not like I have anything to lose if someone else pays for it.

[opiumgirl]

I hope no-one gets the bright idea to give it to me as a gift.
My birthday is coming up and if I get this heads will be rolling!

[supersimoholic]

I am, simply to keep up my collection, and if it's a good EP, then that's just a bonus for me :P.

Just moved into a flat with my partner so money is tight but my partner knows how important Sims is to me, and in return I don't mind him getting the special edition of Assassins's Creed 3 when it comes out.
That's gamer love for you! :P

[zigersimmer]

Sierra, I hope you don't mind a band with no singer... That's what we get with Late Night. Showtime gives us a singer with no band. Anyone see a gap here? =(

Maybe they'll get them together in a future expansion called "Late Time", or "Show Night", or "Give EA Money For A Disc Of Crap".

[Zokugai]

or "Give EA Money For A Disc Of Crap".

Wait, when did we start talking about Generations?

[JsMommy08]

I will not be getting it, I only recently got Pets so I'm occupied and satisfied with that. Showtime doesn't have the sort of game play I'm interested it *Shrug* Not having the complete collection isn't as important to me anymore, I only have one of the Stuff Pack 'cause I won it.

[Tasselcat]

Nothing in this EP interests me. At all. I haven't touched the band ability from LN, or photography from WA, due to laptop performance issues, so why would I buy an entire EP that would clearly give me features I dislike and added stress to my comp?

I find it odd that they've done an entire EP on such a weak premise. I hope the next one will be better planned and executed.

[BloodyScholastic]

I won't buy it neither. Costs too much for features I probably won't use them much.... EXCEPT Pool table.
Pool Table.... Y EA INTRODUCED POOL TABLE ON THAT EP?? WHY NO EARLIER?? WHY WHY WHY I'm dying for POOL TABLE for TS3!!

[Zokugai]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but in addition to the pool table, juke box, and mechanical bull, they also reintroduced TS2's photo booth.

[Glic2003]

They also reintroduced TS2's electro dance sphere (has a new name, though).

[heaven]

I won't buy it neither. Costs too much for features I probably won't use them much.... EXCEPT Pool table.
Pool Table.... Y EA INTRODUCED POOL TABLE ON THAT EP?? WHY NO EARLIER?? WHY WHY WHY I'm dying for POOL TABLE for TS3!!

Because, people have been wanting it since base game I am sure and, if they stick it in an EP people are less likely to buy, the incentive goes up. The objects is how they got me! /heaven is an honest simmer. :P

[BloodyScholastic]

Because, people have been wanting it since base game I am sure and, if they stick it in an EP people are less likely to buy, the incentive goes up. The objects is how they got me! /heaven is an honest simmer. :P

Ahahaha sure :D well I felt :wtf: when I found out EA included pool table for the SHT EP. EP that I probably (just probably) won't buy because I don't really like the pop-star/social/stage shows features. Pool table could be included Late Night EP, then the "celebrity" feature introduced in SHT, not LN. That's what I thought. I know EA sells Sims games for business. Making features that people really want in later EP, not in base game or earlier EP, to make later EP would sell well. Realizing my EPs don't include "pool table", then EA introduced pool table in a very late EP I won't buy ... aaaarrghhh

I think I should "get over it!" only to forget "my lavish families/party sims' life won't complete without pool table" :( :( :( :(

[karennumbertwo]

Nope i'm entirely satisfied with my game right now and grateful that it doesn't crash anymore. If it's not broke don't fix it!

[Bij0ux]

What type of items are locked exactly? Actual objects, like some of the stage props? Or is it the achievement badges which you are supposed to collect? Or?

It's actual objects and clothing from what I can remember. It has nothing to do with the achievements. You get a stamp when you host and/or when you send a sim through simport and with X number of stamps you unlock the set those stamps unlock. Although I could be wrong because I don't care about simport, only about the items locked XD

[Arisuka]

Pool table could be included Late Night EP, then the "celebrity" feature introduced in SHT, not LN. That's what I thought. I know EA sells Sims games for business. Making features that people really want in later EP, not in base game or earlier EP, to make later EP would sell well. Realizing my EPs don't include "pool table", then EA introduced pool table in a very late EP I won't buy ... aaaarrghhh

In LN, there is actually a lamp that is meant to put over a pool table (it even comes with two different pool table symbol options) which suggests that they were intending to include it in LN but at last minute decided to hold it back until later. : P I see what you did there EA! If you are doing stuff like that, at least put the pool table lamp into the right EP where you are going include put the actual pool table! C'MON!

[Zokugai]

What the hell does celebrity have to do with Late Night, anyway?

[Zokugai]

They also reintroduced TS2's electro dance sphere (has a new name, though).

Gyro-something, yeah. Description references the EDS, too.

[matrix54]

What the hell does celebrity have to do with Late Night, anyway?

It's only there for VIP access in clubs, and entertainment. A system of popularity would have been better. Or social status, or if anything career level, since every career level 10 career is you sing being well known. Acting should have been cut all together (since it doesn't do anything for the EP) and saved for SHT. If anything, the DJ would have been better for this EP (for obvious reason), and they could have fleshed out the other Areas of the EP.

Being an actor and being a musician would have, obviously fit SHT, and having the acting job be a semi-rabbit hole career (which it pretty much is) would have fit great in SHT, and the fame system could have helped the bands, as well as having singing in Bands. They could have avoided a lot of problems like this, had they thought out what they wanted to do ahead of time.

[Zokugai]

Exactly. I mean, the neighborhood is based on HOLLYWOOD and yet there's no film studio in it. Really? Really, EA?

[lisfyre]

No I am not buying this EP.

I'm on my new EP boycott until I get weather. My last one was for Pets.

I've been on that boycott since Pets. Annoying really since the players who wanted Pets got their wish and the rest of us who want weather won't be getting ours... at least not with EP7.

Because, people have been wanting it since base game I am sure and, if they stick it in an EP people are less likely to buy, the incentive goes up. The objects is how they got me! /heaven is an honest simmer. :P

I'm an honest simmer but I won't buy 1 freaking EP that I dislike for a few items. I'd love to have that pool table and dominoes in my game but I'll wait for EA to put it in the Store and get it there instead of getting an EP that will annoy the heck out of me.

[Glic2003]

What annoys me is the only way to get a spiral staircase is to buy Generations. Unless I missed one in the Store or something?

Oh, and intriguingly, one of the early concept art photos for Late Night did have a picture of a pool table in it. So, apparently they did plan for it originally...

I really wish Late Night had totally focused on the "going out to nightclubs" theme and Showtime had been all about the "performing and becoming a celebrity" theme. Both EPs would have been better.

But EA seems to want each EP to have a broad, vague focus in the hope that each EP will have something for everyone.

[bassoon_crazy]

I have no intention of buying it. It just seems like Late Night part 2 with social features I'd never use.

Next Expansion Pack, please.

Well, looks like I'm going to have to say "next" to the next Expansion Pack as well. =(

[DigitalSympathies]

Oh, and intriguingly, one of the early concept art photos for Late Night did have a picture of a pool table in it. So, apparently they did plan for it originally...

You mean this pretty pic?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5930777410_4f1b041f80.jpg

Yeah, that REALLY busts me there. Money-hungry scoundrels.

[Glic2003]

You mean this pretty pic?...

Yep that's the one!

I'll try to give them the benefit of the doubt. I could see pool tables being one of the more difficult items to create, so I could see a situation where they didn't have them finished in time and had to omit them.

Still annoying, though. ;)

[Annique]

I pre-loaded it because it came with an offer that the next Origin/EA download will be 15 euro's off. And being confident that there will be at least one more EP/SP worth the full price I supposed 20 euro's was alright for an EP.

[ani_]

I still think the worst thing EA did money-hungry vise was show the baby items in AL trailer, then take them off and put them into the store. The trailer was leaked too early, but still, one of the crappiest things ever done in this game. That's why I can't relate to the anger of the pool-table being in SHT and not LN. Concept art is just concept art, starter drafts. It's not a promise of anything. If you have both SHT and LN, then six months from now when the next EP comes out, will it really matter which EP the item came with as long as it came?

I'd rather be mad about other things, like how you can't make real booths with the seating that came with LN because they are treated like sofas, not chairs.

[lisfyre]

What annoys me is the only way to get a spiral staircase is to buy Generations.


I didn't Generations until like 4 months after it was released. Prior to getting it, I downloaded some CC spiral stairs that worked very well in my game because I was patched up to the latest and greatest. I'm not getting SHT but I do want that pool table... and the dominoes. So... if EA puts it in the store, I'll have to patch and buy that pool table.

[zigersimmer]

It's only there for VIP access in clubs, and entertainment. A system of popularity would have been better. Or social status, or if anything career level, since every career level 10 career is you sing being well known. Acting should have been cut all together (since it doesn't do anything for the EP) and saved for SHT. If anything, the DJ would have been better for this EP (for obvious reason), and they could have fleshed out the other Areas of the EP.

Being an actor and being a musician would have, obviously fit SHT, and having the acting job be a semi-rabbit hole career (which it pretty much is) would have fit great in SHT, and the fame system could have helped the bands, as well as having singing in Bands. They could have avoided a lot of problems like this, had they thought out what they wanted to do ahead of time.

Yep, failure to plan is a plan for failure.

[StardustX]

I hate the social features... Unfortunately that came with the patch. Though I do like the career outfits thing. But I guess that's different since it doesn't require the EP. ^^;

The whole "celebrity lifestyle" has never appealed much to me. I only got Late Night for the objects, since I'm more of a builder than a player.
I don't think I want to spend that much on something I don't really need. I might look into it in the (very distant) future when it drops in price a bit.

[gelis]

I think they are going to get me because I don't like missing any ways of dying or occult types or new wohoo places. Also that mechanical bull makes me think of sims 1. Damn you nostalgia (and wohoo)!

Everything else in that ep, nah.

[Kilani]

I'm not paying full price for it, I'll wait until it's on sale for $20 or so. I thought the basic idea was there, but they really messed the EP up. Social features for unlocking things is beyond ridiculous and just reminds me of how much I can't stand this generation. However possibly the worst, most idiotic thing is that singers can not even be in a band. Just wow.

[nitraatti]

I've decided not to get showtime. Somehow it makes me sad, since I've never felt like I don't want to buy an EP. Not looking forward to what sort of doodaa they come up next.

[kennyinbmore]

No I am not buying this EP.



I've been on that boycott since Pets. Annoying really since the players who wanted Pets got their wish and the rest of us who want weather won't be getting ours... at least not with EP7.



I'm an honest simmer but I won't buy 1 freaking EP that I dislike for a few items. I'd love to have that pool table and dominoes in my game but I'll wait for EA to put it in the Store and get it there instead of getting an EP that will annoy the heck out of me.

If they put the pool table in the store it would be the first and only thing I've bought from there

[taoyingying]

Showtime will be the first EP I'm not buying, since Sims1. I knew I possibly would regret getting Generation but still I bought it (and regretted). I will for sure pass SHT this time. I do want the karaoke machine and photo booth, but I'm not going to install hundred other crappy stuff for show only to get these 2...

[AdamantEve]

I have not been tempted to buy anything since - not even with Pets after I found out that the dog barks were just a voice actor saying "woof" (I mean for chrissake how hard would it be to find a real dog!).

Yeah, and they sound great, and have emotion behind them. The reason they used a person was so that when a dog makes a sad bark, it sounds like a sad bark, or when a dog makes a happy bark it sounds like a happy bark, instead of, like, asking a dog "Speak" and getting a random noise.

It would've been very hard to find a real dog, cat, and horse that can express emotional noises on command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TH6Ri93cs

You can't show a dog an animated model and tell it "Make a noise t hat matches this". :|

[calisims]

I have not been tempted to buy anything since - not even with Pets after I found out that the dog barks were just a voice actor saying "woof" (I mean for chrissake how hard would it be to find a real dog!).

Yeah, and they sound great, and have emotion behind them. The reason they used a person was so that when a dog makes a sad bark, it sounds like a sad bark, or when a dog makes a happy bark it sounds like a happy bark, instead of, like, asking a dog "Speak" and getting a random noise.

It would've been very hard to find a real dog, cat, and horse that can express emotional noises on command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TH6Ri93cs

You can't show a dog an animated model and tell it "Make a noise t hat matches this". :|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36TVEBXzsG4
Real dog actor vs. human dog actor =P

[ViolettaVie]

I don't think I could buy SHT. It would be like rewarding EA for SHT and I can't do that.

[ani_]

I had no idea they were fake. Just yesterday I was listening to the horses thinking they sound so real, they must have recorder real ones. now I know they combined the voices of real and human. I just hope that now that I saw that video I'll still be able to look at Otis and see a dog, not a guy in a blue shirt barking into a mike.

[Miss Puff]

Or you can get a voice actor to say "woof", which makes the whole thing a lot quicker. For this price, though, I personally would expect them to put the effort in and use sound bites from animals, not actors.
If you watch the video AdamantEve linked, you'll see that they actually did use sound bites from animals, they just combined them with human voice actors to give them more emotion. As far as I can tell, this seems to be a legitimate design decision made to create the sound style they wanted, and not a way to cut corners because they didn't want to do the work. Seeing as some people didn't even realize that the sounds were fake until they read about it, I think that the actors and the sound team did a pretty good job.

[AdamantEve]

It's also a hell of a lot more expensive t hire a voice actor than it is to have everybody bring in their pets for a day, so I'm not sure how "they should've actually used EFFORT when recording these" makes any sense anyway.

[crocobaura]

It would've been very hard to find a real dog, cat, and horse that can express emotional noises on command.

You can't show a dog an animated model and tell it "Make a noise t hat matches this". :|


Isn't that what real life actor dogs do? They are trained to bark and appear happy or sad or ferociuous, depending on the script.

[calisims]

Yeah, real life actor dogs are highly trained and cost as much money as human actors.
I personally don't have an issue with the pet voice acting in Sims, but it's not a matter of people 'bringing in their pets for a day' vs hiring human actors to do it.
The choice was between expensive animal actors and their handlers, and expensive human actors. Other games, like DRagon Age, use real dog actors to do the voice of the mabari hound, which has to express a wide array of doggy emotions both in and out of combat, and it works just fine.

[ViolettaVie]

I try not to let it bother me but I really don't like the cat and dog sounds. I know how real animals sound and that just isn't it. The horse sounds don't bother me as much, though.

[Ketsu_sama]

As someone who really liked Superstar when I was a girl (And still is my third favorite after Unleashed and Making Magic), is there any point in buying Showtime? I haven't been thrilled with the game since it was announced, but it feels weird to be lacking an EP when I never have before...

[trip]

I understand people not wanting to buy any EP/SP EAxis has released, since we know in our hearts it's going to be complete glitchy rubbish. Would you play them if they were released for free? As always this is the internet, and things end up free on here all the time :X

[lisfyre]

I understand people not wanting to buy any EP/SP EAxis has released, since we know in our hearts it's going to be complete glitchy rubbish. Would you play them if they were released for free? As always this is the internet, and things end up free on here all the time :X

Don't know about anyone else but if EA released this EP for free, this is one Sims player that wouldn't take it... glitchy or not. I just don't think SHT will be added value to the game I play and for the most part, that's the reason I didn't get this. The other bigger part of my problem with SHT was/is Simport and the fact that my sims with their new professions need to "tour" in order to progress in their jobs. I oppose this in principle and it changes my sandbox game into something else. We don't know WHAT else but it's not my old sandbox game anymore.

Now... if we're talking about other EP's/SP's for free? Heck ya I'd take it... except Pets because again, I don't feel it would have value added for the game I play.

And please... it's not EAxis.. at least not anymore. Maxis is a part of EA but has not been involved in any Sims 3 design and production so leave Maxis out of it.

[CinderEmma]

I have no money, but I need to have it now XD
*feels incomplete without having a complete sim collection*

[zigersimmer]

I understand people not wanting to buy any EP/SP EAxis has released, since we know in our hearts it's going to be complete glitchy rubbish. Would you play them if they were released for free? As always this is the internet, and things end up free on here all the time :X

The price is not an issue for me. Free or not, I don't want no SHT.

[AdamantEve]

wouldn't take it... glitchy or not. I just don't think SHT will be added value to the game I play.

Can you elaborate on this? I'm just curious about the thought process. You're saying you wouldn't take perfectly functioning new content that adds hundreds of new items to the game, for free? How would that not add to the game?

[lisfyre]

Can you elaborate on this? I'm just curious about the thought process. You're saying you wouldn't take perfectly functioning new content that adds hundreds of new items to the game, for free? How would that not add to the game?

I'm not interested in more celebs in my game. The new professions don't interest me at all and it's also contingent on my sims going on "tour". Now I realize that they don't need to go "on tour" but that really defeats the purpose of the whole EP. Therefore to me, it's not value added since I would not use the EP to it's full capability. The items that are included in the EP overall aren't a huge loss to me since there are only a few I was interested in - namely the photo booth, the DJ booth, pool table and dominoes table.

If EA gave away all their EP/SP's for free, I would still pick and choose which ones I would want for the game that I play. I did not buy Pets for TS2 and for TS3 - because I already have my sims running amok and driving me crazy, I don't need sim pets adding to my stress. I play this game for fun and to de-stress not to have MORE stress.

The price is not an issue for me. Free or not, I don't want no SHT.

Well said :)

[rian90]

Geesh..so now we have a thread for those who chose not to buy the EP and yet we still have folks who come here to try to convince them. LOL This place is so crazy...or maybe it is just a few people with too much time on their hands. Why not just let them NOT buy the EP?

Lisfyre, I rather wish I had not installed pets. But I like much of the stuff in the pack, just not keen on the animals. They are cute and all, but they have so many routing issues. While my new super duper computer does a lot better, it is obvious that a lot of the issues for me at least, started after the Pet EP. You are very wise and strong to be able to resist all the wee objects. :) I wish I were more like you! :)

[310175]

Up until Showtime, I liked the concept of all EP's, even if the execution left a lot to be desired. However, I am not interested in turning my Sims experience into a reality contestant show where I have to deal with online people in top of that.
If I miss some content that I barely use, I can live with that just fine. Right now, this might be it for me with Sims 3. Unless there is weather. If it ever happens, I will get that one. Although, you never know. I didn't expect much from World Adventures but I don't completely regret buying it, simply for the Worlds. And from what I hear about the next one, I might skip it too. I don't care about magic either.
So, in order for me to deal with another patch, mod update, CC weirdness for another EP, it needs to be something I'm interested in. Even if Showtime or the next one is magically bug-free, I wouldn't buy it.

[calisims]

Can you elaborate on this? I'm just curious about the thought process. You're saying you wouldn't take perfectly functioning new content that adds hundreds of new items to the game, for free? How would that not add to the game?

Sims EPs don't just add new items you can choose to use or not, it also changes the game in ways you cannot control (without mods).
So Late Night, for instance, not only gave you new clothes and furniture, it started turning your neighbors into vampires and celebrities, and without a mod that squashes that, you just had to deal with it. If you don't want a town full of vampires and celebrities, or any vampires and celebrities at all, then this perfectly functioning new content actually detracts from your game rather than adding to it.

When you choose to add an EP or not, you have to factor in that kind of thing. If you don't want the features the game will impose on you, then you might not want that EP even for free.

[Elledee]

I am pretty sure I'll give it a miss. I have two other EPs installed and they were both rather disappointing. My core pack came with Ambitions but I played the vanilla version for a while before installing that and I wasn't really impressed with it. I didn't think much of the added professions.

I was reading through threads on here one night and I read about the cool clothes and hair that came with Late Night. So I came home after a night of partying last week and bought LN when I was drunk (this is why I shouldn't drink and sim :p).

I like the new items but I really hate the vampire and celebrity feature, but I guess at the time I bought it I thought that it wouldn't bother me so much if I was happy with the other stuff. I was wrong. I'm not sure if I will buy any more EPs for the time being.

I really wanted Pets but I've heard from friends and read about it being buggy. I don't have a top of the line computer and I think I'd have nothing but heartache if I bought that, lol.

I saw today that Amazon has a sale on the Katy Perry edition and I still think with the sale price that it's too much money.

[koololdster]

I'll pass. Nothing except the golf is even interesting. Hate to even go to the Sims 3 site anymore because of all the crap on my page. I don't care about so and so's stage thingy or your memories!! This has driven me to go back to Sims 2 and the Sims. I feel like the Sims is dying a tragic and $$ filled death!!!

[zigersimmer]

I am pretty sure I'll give it a miss. I have two other EPs installed and they were both rather disappointing. My core pack came with Ambitions but I played the vanilla version for a while before installing that and I wasn't really impressed with it. I didn't think much of the added professions.

I was reading through threads on here one night and I read about the cool clothes and hair that came with Late Night. So I came home after a night of partying last week and bought LN when I was drunk (this is why I shouldn't drink and sim :p).

I like the new items but I really hate the vampire and celebrity feature, but I guess at the time I bought it I thought that it wouldn't bother me so much if I was happy with the other stuff. I was wrong. I'm not sure if I will buy any more EPs for the time being.

I really wanted Pets but I've heard from friends and read about it being buggy. I don't have a top of the line computer and I think I'd have nothing but heartache if I bought that, lol.

I saw today that Amazon has a sale on the Katy Perry edition and I still think with the sale price that it's too much money.

Use Twallan's MasterController and StoryProgression to squash the celebrity system and vampires if you like the rest of Late Night.

Meanwhile, I've just uninstalled Pets because it is a steaming pile of horse shit. I'm debating about uninstalling Late Night myself because I'm not really finding anything in it that I want for my game.

[wildsimmers]

Showtime isn't the best expansion pack, I had really high hopes for it. But I got bored after a couple of weeks :|

[ButchSims]

While it isn't the BEST expansion, I think it has some nice stuff in it. And since there is now a mod that lets you unlock the Simport stuff, I don't feel so bad about not wanting to use Simport. But to each their own.

[kennyinbmore]

EA is saving me a lot of money with TS3. With SHT and the next announced magic ep, that'll make 3 EPs I didn't buy. Thank god I have other games to play than the sims. I'll pray for TS4 :)

[lisfyre]

EA is saving me a lot of money with TS3. With SHT and the next announced magic ep, that'll make 3 EPs I didn't buy. Thank god I have other games to play than the sims. I'll pray for TS4 :)

Same here times 2 :) Hubby plays also and of course we each have to have our own game discs. I think he still wants to get Pets but I don't and I know he's not interested in SHT and in the next upcoming magic EP.

And like you we both have other games we play all MMORPG's which is cool because we're both in guilds there so much more time to play with our guildies :)

[gege_sml]

Not sure yet...i am running out of HD space on my Windows partition and St is kinda heavy...

For what I've seen it looks like it brings a lot stuff that were missing on Late Night

If manage to increase my partition space I may install it :P

[Alliteration]

And please... it's not EAxis.. at least not anymore. Maxis is a part of EA but has not been involved in any Sims 3 design and production so leave Maxis out of it.

EAxis was a mix between EA and Maxis? I thought we were comparing them to the Axis powers.

I always thought that was going a bit too far...

[RedCherries]

I already have Showtime.
The first thing I thought was "This stuff should've been combined with LN."
To be honest, it should've been one EP, and one pricetag. Not like £30 each.
D;

[MiniMimi]

the next announced magic epAnnounced?!! Wait, where? Link please?

[HarVee]

Showtime isn't the best expansion pack, I had really high hopes for it. But I got bored after a couple of weeks :|

Hell, I got bored with it 3 days after installing it.

[lewisb40]

Announced?!! Wait, where? Link please?

It is still speculation, based on the leaked information from the first 1.33 patch. There haven't been any official announcement yet.

[Drakesecaravdis]

I STILL don't have this. when I heard about its release I thought "damn it they're making me want to buy something else that I can't afford" but then I read the reviews on youtube and reading about how it's barely any different than LN, I thought "what is the point"
yup just one of those schemes to make crap look like gold again which is to be expected from EA obv

I won't completely write it off because you never know until you try it but it won't be something I will get anytime soon.

[jenieusa]

just like latenight????....i dont think so!!!

[KGirl]

Sims EPs don't just add new items you can choose to use or not, it also changes the game in ways you cannot control (without mods).
So Late Night, for instance, not only gave you new clothes and furniture, it started turning your neighbors into vampires and celebrities, and without a mod that squashes that, you just had to deal with it. If you don't want a town full of vampires and celebrities, or any vampires and celebrities at all, then this perfectly functioning new content actually detracts from your game rather than adding to it.

When you choose to add an EP or not, you have to factor in that kind of thing. If you don't want the features the game will impose on you, then you might not want that EP even for free.

I have LN and don't have any vampires in my game, and haven't even needed a mod to prevent them. I just play in pre-Bridgeport towns, with only sims I made. So there are no vampires in my game.

There are celebrities in my game, but I'm fine with that. If I didn't want them it would have taken me very little time to make an XML mod to disable sims from becoming celebrities.

I don't know if I'll buy SHT, but I'd definitely take it for free if I could do it legally. There's a lot of good content along with the stuff I wouldn't use.

The touring requirement would likely dissuade me from using the new performing careers, and even hearing about it ruffles my feathers (a purely voluntary networking thing would be fine, but from what people are writing you have to network to progress). That's the main reason I may not buy it. But I still don't get how it would hurt you if you could take it for free and just didn't use the performing careers.

I'll make clear I fully understand not buying it. I may not. That's not the argument. The argument is that I and some others don't get the "I wouldn't take it for free" view.

[Sunshine021]

I like Showtime *shrug* Yes, a lot of it could have been already added to Late Night, but... eh, I'm not complaining.

[annoellyn]

I'm not interested in the main features either but bought it for the clothes, objects, etc that come with all expansion packs.

Annie

[Drakesecaravdis]

just like latenight????....i dont think so!!!

well tell me what you think is so different about it because from what am I hearing it's just Late Night with an unnecessary SP.
ok so I hear singers can now be in bands but if that's all other than just stuff, it's not very intriguing to me unless I had money rolling out of my ears.
if you like it that's all well and fine but all I'm saying is I don't see the point of my dirt poor self buying it especially when it means someone who doesn't even work hard for it gets my money.

[Shimrod101]

The touring requirement would likely dissuade me from using the new performing careers, and even hearing about it ruffles my feathers (a purely voluntary networking thing would be fine, but from what people are writing you have to network to progress). That's the main reason I may not buy it. But I still don't get how it would hurt you if you could take it for free and just didn't use the performing careers.


You don't need to do any networking (Simport) to progress in the performance careers all the way to level 10.

[jenieusa]

well tell me what you think is so different about it because from what am I hearing it's just Late Night with an unnecessary SP.
ok so I hear singers can now be in bands but if that's all other than just stuff, it's not very intriguing to me unless I had money rolling out of my ears.
if you like it that's all well and fine but all I'm saying is I don't see the point of my dirt poor self buying it especially when it means someone who doesn't even work hard for it gets my money.


Well gosh lets see.....

It has Magicians..Singers...and Acrobats...not in LN
POOL TABLES omg yeh...not in LN
Its has this HUGE tv which i used to make a drive in..not in LN
No singers can not be in bands.....to me...big deal..
REALLY like the new clothing and hairs ...not in LN
Simporting is fun..i like to see pics of my sim in someelses game....not in LN
That gyrosphere thingy reminds me of StarGate or Contact...LOVE IT
the driving range....and DJ both....all the new objects make by town
feel a bit more real now....

[KGirl]

You don't need to do any networking (Simport) to progress in the performance careers all the way to level 10.

Thanks! That will help me decide whether to buy it or not. I had been leaning against buying it, but now I'm leaning toward buying it.

Porting might be kind of cool, but my friends don't play TS3, and I don't want to feel like I need to find someone online with whom I can trade ports. If it happens, it happens; but I don't want the pressure.

[Beezer]

Well gosh lets see.....

It has Magicians..Singers...and Acrobats...not in LN
POOL TABLES omg yeh...not in LN
Its has this HUGE tv which i used to make a drive in..not in LN
No singers can not be in bands.....to me...big deal..
REALLY like the new clothing and hairs ...not in LN
Simporting is fun..i like to see pics of my sim in someelses game....not in LN
That gyrosphere thingy reminds me of StarGate or Contact...LOVE IT
the driving range....and DJ both....all the new objects make by town
feel a bit more real now....

I think the problem a lot of people have with all that stuff is it should have been in Late Night to start with. TS1 and TS2 ep and sp were packed to the rim with stuff and didn't have nearly as many bugs as TS3. They were also less expansive. EA is rapping your wallet and if you enjoy that then by all means buy the ep. I personally may not buy another one ever, which is a real shame since I have bought every sims game since the whole thing started.

[jenieusa]

Well to me....

TS1 and accessories were expensive
TS2 and accessories were expensive
TS3 and accessories are expensive......

but its a game i enjoy....so i will support them and buy them whenever i feel like...
i have only a few MINOR bugs...but NOTHING that would make me stop buying them....thats just a NO!!

And as far as what objects and things that were in this ex pack that MAYBE should have been in another...
if you go there then you could say that about all objects in every ex pack...maybe the trampoline should have
been in a sports pack or something....fact is LN gave us shuffleboard...and ST gave us a pool table...AMB gave us the
trampoline....WA gave us the snake charming basket....pets...gave us pets...and GN gave us a sleeping bag.....
All together theres SOOOOO much to do in this game....i find new stuff happening all the time....

[zigersimmer]

Thanks! That will help me decide whether to buy it or not. I had been leaning against buying it, but now I'm leaning toward buying it.

Porting might be kind of cool, but my friends don't play TS3, and I don't want to feel like I need to find someone online with whom I can trade ports. If it happens, it happens; but I don't want the pressure.

There is an override that makes the rewards from simporting available without having to actually simport. http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=470934

[Tempscire]

And as far as what objects and things that were in this ex pack that MAYBE should have been in another... if you go there then you could say that about all objects in every ex pack...maybe the trampoline should have been in a sports pack or something....fact is LN gave us shuffleboard...and ST gave us a pool table...etc
The reason people have frequently said this about this EP and not others is because of the thematic similarity between SHT and LN. There is nothing about the Ambitions trampoline that makes it seem like it would be a better fit in, say, Pets. LN and SHT, on the other hand, both have fame systems, performance systems, and glitzy atmospheres. They aren't "the same," but they could be combined pretty seamlessly: if you squished together Generations and WA, you'd be able to easily distinguish what came from which pack. It would not be so easy with LN and SHT if you had no prior familiarity with each pack alone.

Some examples: LN included a ceiling light for bars that has pool-related stencils, but an actual pool table wasn't added until SHT. There are bands in one and singers in the other, and due to a lack of effort/being in different EPs, never the twain shall meet even though it's pants-on-head stupid for them to not be integrated. One could argue that a mechanical bull makes more sense as a bar attraction than as a venue toy, seeing as how there are actual RL bars with mechanical bulls. The gyro-dance-sphere thing could go either way, but it was just imported from TS2, in which it was originally included with Night Life, LN's spiritual predecessor. Ditto for DJ booths, which also make more sense to exist in clubs.

[BloodyScholastic]

After long consideration thinking the features in SHT might be used or unused in my game...
After seeing several cases of glitching and high boring level might be occurred...
After counting my own shirt button to do option buy no buy no buy no buy no...




So.. my final decision is..



http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8287/screenshot200m.jpg

Not this time, EA. Thank you.

[jenieusa]

The reason people have frequently said this about this EP and not others is because of the thematic similarity between SHT and LN. There is nothing about the Ambitions trampoline that makes it seem like it would be a better fit in, say, Pets. LN and SHT, on the other hand, both have fame systems, performance systems, and glitzy atmospheres. They aren't "the same," but they could be combined pretty seamlessly: if you squished together Generations and WA, you'd be able to easily distinguish what came from which pack. It would not be so easy with LN and SHT if you had no prior familiarity with each pack alone.

Some examples: LN included a ceiling light for bars that has pool-related stencils, but an actual pool table wasn't added until SHT. There are bands in one and singers in the other, and due to a lack of effort/being in different EPs, never the twain shall meet even though it's pants-on-head stupid for them to not be integrated. One could argue that a mechanical bull makes more sense as a bar attraction than as a venue toy, seeing as how there are actual RL bars with mechanical bulls. The gyro-dance-sphere thing could go either way, but it was just imported from TS2, in which it was originally included with Night Life, LN's spiritual predecessor. Ditto for DJ booths, which also make more sense to exist in clubs.


And what i am getting at is that....simply because of all the things you mentioned
certainly doesn't put me off buying the ex packs......

[Tempscire]

And what i am getting at is that....simply because of all the things you mentioned
certainly doesn't put me off buying the ex packs......
Well, at least someone's happy with it, then. ;)

[itsamariokart]

I didn't buy it and I don't think I will. It's just Late Night 2 and I wasn't a massive fan of that.

[zigersimmer]

It's a farr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM4C5pzog1g