Having an affair and not getting caught

[Dizzy-noodles]

Hiya

I was wondering if there's a way to cheat without getting caught? My sims partners ALWAYS find out! It kind of takes the fun out of it I think.

[Vladora]

I think it's mainly avoiding Sim ESP which involves dates and woo-hooing. If the spouse is anywhere on the lot if a date is initiated or woo-hoo is going on, they'll know about it. I'm not sure, but I think they'll ignore any other romantic interactions as long as they're not in the room. Be careful with children, too, they'll cry and tattle if they see their parents cheating. I think perhaps seeing their spouse spooning in bed with someone else or viewing date rewards will set them off, too.

If you're dating several townies, I'd be careful hanging around community lots because they can show up at any time. I've heard of the gossip feature being able to inform cheating as well, but I've never seen that in my game. You just have to be reaall sneaky... That's part of the fun of it to me, though I don't play many Romance Sims.

[JDacapo]

Simple solution - get ACR and the Romance mod. That way, Romance sims won't be frikkin' hypocrites, and there'll be room for polyamorous relationships.

[StrangeTownChick]

I have one romance sim who is engaged, but still is constantly going on one-time dates with other townies. I think that's the thing- they need to be one-time flings. Maybe not even a date (for lack of reward), just a quick woohoo while spousy is at work. Sims can meet their lover's other lover without a blowup so long as their SO keeps their hands off the other lover. (Although in that particular family, when Ricky (the cheater) invited one of his other lovers (Sandy) over and promptly fell asleep, Hun Si (Ricky's fiance) went out to greet her and got an option to buy her out for $50.)

[Peni Griffin]

Just be really careful. Ashley Pitts-Upsnott hasn't been caught by his wife or child...yet...and he's had several extracurricular flings; ditto Billy Ghote, though he hasn't actually fooled around on his wife since the kid was born.

Romance sims need partners who are at work when the Romance sim isn't, and either nannies or kids in school. You go out, do your extracurriculars almost entirely on community lots, and if it's your partner's work hours you're a lot less likely to get caught. Don't for pity's sake bring your date home - that's just asking for it. If dating a playable, play it from the other side and do at-home lots with that one (assuming you're not both married).

As for being caught with one lover while with another lover - eh, who cares? You get some really spectacular drama that way.

[Yazoo]

I know you are asking if there is a cheat and so forth. I was getting sick and tired of my Sims getting caught as well, and getting slapped because of it. Heck, I needed a hack that would allow no jealousy at all. So, that way if they did manage to see my Sim in action they would be like whatever. So, I'll give you a hack that may work, not sure if its what you are looking for, but yeah.

No Jeaously At All Hack (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=7927) <--- I love it, because no my Sims can flirt in front of their lovers, and no one gets out of shape...

MUAHAHA

I hope that this works for you, or is at least what you are looking for :D

[maxon]

Why wouldn't you want your sim to get caught? That's half the fun.

[FranH]

Getting 'caught' by the partner is only half the fun. The other half comes when the relationship is affected by it. Just like in real life, nobody likes being lied to, or cheated on. Why should sims be any different?
It's called realism, and it does create some helluva storylines. Sometimes space is needed for the two to get back together, or perhaps it wasn't meant to last anyway.
Especially if there's a major 'three bolt' attraction going on. Can't stop the course of true love, can we? :lol:

[ac220]

I play all sorts of families, from ones where WooHoo means TFB to out-and-out polyamorous communes... So, I generally use Smonaff's potions plus jealousy hack to fine-tune what each couple is ready to let each other to get away with. It mostly works.

[dodoodle]

I think there's a hack for it.

[Peni Griffin]

You can also set ACR with different levels of jealousy for different couples, if you're willing to install such a complex mod.

It's true that the Drama doesn't hit the fan till the caught-cheating event, but anything that happens repeatedly is boring. Having your sim make a good-faith effort to misbehave without getting caught is suspenseful, and therefore fun. Ashley, who is a casual and opportunistic Romancer, has managed not to get caught. My Mr. Big, who stumbled into an affair with the Diva because he got bored and restless staying home while his workaholic wife pursued her career, and has been caught by her relatives more times than he's actually woohooed with her, but his wife and daughter are still officially in ignorance. (But his wife knows. If you saw the way she sought out the Diva to tell her all the details of their romantic vacation, you'd say so, too!) Billy Ghote, who I've played as a deliberate shortsighted sleazebag, married a woman with four children by a previous marriage and not one of them has caught him on a side date yet, though several have viewed suspicious behavior and all of them are certain he's been using her. But Clovis and Sadie Point, who are determined to make their marriage work, keep running into old lovers and absentmindedly (i.e. autonomously) flirting with them in front of the other! And so on.

[kittcat92]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that if you lock the cheater with their lover in a room with no windows or doors (you have to take out the doors not just lock them or the spouse will just barge in anyway) They can do whatever they like without getting caught. Its been a while but I also seem to remember it working and even had a sim cheat on their spouse at a party with one of their family friends (who's spouse was also there) and no one was the wiser. But I haven't done it in quite some time mainly because I enjoy the "danger" of the cheater maybe getting caught. I have had some close calls when a spouse can home while the lover was still there, there was nothing romantic going on but the lover was in their underwear, I imagine their conversations going something like this. "Dear, what is Sarah doing here?" "She dropped by for a cup of sugar to make brownies for her niece." "Why is she in her underwear?" "Darling that's her bathing suit she was on her way back from the pool, some deviant stole her clothes so she couldn't change." I don't use Jealousy mods (except with my Medieval vampire family, Bartholomew has three wives) I pretty much say if a sim wants to cheat they have to deal with the consequences if they get caught maybe the couple will fight for a while and then the cheater will learn from their mistakes (sort of) and they spouse will forgive them and they will have a better marriage. If you do have a sim that wants to cheat the easiest way is to cheat while the spouse is at work, but be careful of chance cards you don't want the spouse to lose their job from the wrong choice of a chance card and come home early. (Thats what happened to Daniel Pleasant, now he is 6 feet under)

[maxon]

I think there's a hack for it.
There's a hack for everything.

[Nitalynn060755]

I get my Sim a business (not home based) and put in a hot tub. He/she doesn't have flings with family friends, just customers mostly to keep it away from the home and just as soon as they have done the dirty then I have them call the person after midnight so that they don't become stalkers who would bother them at home.

[Yazoo]

Oh..Like never have a Woohooing moment in a hot tub while downtown. And here is why:

My Sim...Tegan was hooking up with Samantha (Townie) and they told everyone to get out of the hot tub (Tegan's mother was there) and you know woohooing in front of your parents is just wrong. But for some god awful reason, Tegan's mom was cheering her on or approving it. It wasn't until Mrs. Crumplebottom came onto the lot, I realized that woohooing in a hot tub isn't going to give you an Oscar for best performance. Because she lectured Tegan until she left the lot, literally. She kept following Tegan everyone on the lot, to lecture her, over and over again. So, Tegan finally left the lot. Yup, so yeah, no hot tub woohoo UNLESS Mrs. Crumplebottom isn't there. Mhm

[Peni Griffin]

Actually it's the swimsuits Mrs. Crumplebottom objects to as much as the woohooing. She'll even lecture little kids (and make them cry!) if they're wearing swimsuits. My sims do what they're going to do in defiance of the Crumplebottom Brigade. (She's really a disguise donned by a prude terrorism group; that's why she appears to be immortal.)

[rogue_55]

I have made sims cheat on their spouse while the spouse was sleeping and they didn't find out. I don't have acr in my game though, so I don't know if that changes if you have it.

[Helmasaur]

Personally, I play with Pescado's romance mod. It makes the jealousy ever-so-much more realistic.

Romance Sims pretty much have a laissez-faire attitude with it installed.

"Oh, my husband's screwing the maid? 'Kay, I'm just going to go snog every single mailman in the world."

Of course, if anyone tries to pursue a Family Sim, they're pretty much screwed.

[labellavienna]

Ive never ever had my sims cheat...maybe thats why i get bored so easily. I just cant bring myself to do it lol.

[Yazoo]

Ive never ever had my sims cheat...maybe thats why i get bored so easily. I just cant bring myself to do it lol.

I was the same way. But then I dunno what happened, but now I do have a Romance Sim, and sometimes a Pleasure Sim, and sometimes that Sim (Pleasure) wants to have 50 Dream Dates. So, yeah, that makes it very interesting actually. In fact my Sim Spencer is crushing on seven Sims, and is in love with one. And one Sim really wants to be with Spencer, but Spencer doesn't like her. So hence why Melissa Fancy follows Spencer when she sees her. And usually in front of Melissa, a girl that is crushing on Spencer rubs it in Melissa's face that her and Spencer are liking each other.

Yup, lovely ways to show off their love or "crushing ways". I just couldn't believe the Countess was flirting hardcore and kissing Spencer right in front of Melissa, then when Melissa found her way to the 50's Diner, she encountered Spencer and Ratna (Have no clue why EA makes people have the weirdest names.) Flirting and dancing together, so Melissa tried to get Spencer's attention, but Spencer was too busy dancing with Ratna. So yeah. Poor Melissa, she wants Spencer so bad, but Spencer is like no thank you.

EDIT: Hence why I have the no jealousy at all hack. Because dear god, Spencer would be slapped every second.

[omglo]

I don't think there's a way to guarantee the sim never gets caught. I had relationships unravel when uncontrollable Sims did poorly timed romantic interactions while they were on a community lot or in a welcome wagon. Once I got BV, I put a hotel in my main hood and my non monogamous sims sometimes slip off there for a few hours.

[JDacapo]

There's a hack for everything.

Except to remove invisible "[sim] became creature" memories, which inevitably lead to loads of wants or fears relating to becoming or curing various creature states. Damn I wish that they hadn't made the witch-state curable. Why couldn't they make it like becoming a zombie, where once the deed was done, the game considered it permanent?

[Dizzy-noodles]

Hiya everyone :)

Thanks for all the replies! I haven't had any sims woo-hoo behind their partners backs, but one did make out with a vampire while her husband was asleep upstairs, and I wondered how he found out! I did wonder if it was gossip but maybe it was one of the kids!

I have heard of ACR before, but am not sure if I want it, I want some of my sims to stay faithful.

Oh I had 'buy sim out' come up once and wasn't sure what it was for. I'll try the one-time thing idea.

I do want the drama eventually, I just want a bit of sneaking around first! I like your stories, my sims don't have any ex's, I keep making them marry their first loves! I know it's a bit boring, I just can't stand it when they split up!

I know what you mean about true love, my sim Flossy only met Blake once, and he kept ringing her all the time, then when she went round to see him, they practically threw themselves at each other!

What are Smonaff's potions? And sorry for being thick, but what does TFB mean?

kittcat92-Haha I love your 'excuse' it made me laugh!

Thanks, I don't have OFB though.

What does the romance mod do? Is it on MATY?

Thanks again everyone!

PS Poor Melissa! If she was mine, I'd adjust Spencer with the ReNuYuSensuOrb until he really fancied her! But I'm soppy!

[Peni Griffin]

I believe (I don't use it) that you can set faithfulness differently with different sims with ACR. This is actually one reason I don't sue it. It's so wonderful when a sim decides on his or her own to be faithful even when I'm trying to set him up with someone else, and I feel like ACR would give me too much control. I like my sims to develop their personalities independent of me, so I don't mess with the base character codes.

However, I love it when other people come on here and tell their ACR stories, especially when they forgot to adjust their settings. And there are certain gameplay scenarios - asylums and BACC, for instance - that ACR appears to be perfect for.

[Yazoo]

PS Poor Melissa! If she was mine, I'd adjust Spencer with the ReNuYuSensuOrb until he really fancied her! But I'm soppy!

Spencer is a girl, I ended up getting the name from my like favorite show Pretty Little Liars :) Her sister's name is Aria ^.^ And I would. But Spencer is fun as she is...Even if she is like...Miss Slutty Pants, and can't stick with one person. BUT eventually she will come to terms that her heart belongs to Dina, and end her flings.

And I really do not know why Spencer doesn't like Melissa. But dang, she follows her EVERYWHERE. I went to the Art Museum and she was there. I was like:

"Okay I will go somewhere else."

Went to Cold Issue Clothing, and Melissa was there. It sort of got freaky o.O

As for the potions, you can find them here:

Le Potions (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=188471) <---

Basically there are different kinds of potions, included one that is anti-jealousy potion. But all potions you will have to call the "Match Maker" or the gypsy, and buy them. But I thought I had read that the anti-jealousy potion can wear off, but I could be wrong, hehe. Nightlife is required.

I use the no jealousy, because there is no jealousy at all, and usually if your lover, partner or spouse catches you. If they are outgoing Sims they will immediately approve it :)

Hope this helps ^.^

[TortureTheNannies]

Why would you need a hack for having an affair? The game is built to accomodate affairs with or without jealousy. Standard game has jealousy. Boolprop testingcheatsenabled true . spawn Sim Modder. Relationship mutual with wife set to neutral. They'll rebuild it in time.For now, they are not in love. Have the affair. you can woohoo right in front of the spouse and there's no jealousy.
no ACR, no jealousy mods.. over and done. And you can make them fall in love again when you're finished having fun.

of course, if you want to get caught.. no need to use this method.

[Alijah]

I believe (I don't use it) that you can set faithfulness differently with different sims with ACR. This is actually one reason I don't sue it. It's so wonderful when a sim decides on his or her own to be faithful even when I'm trying to set him up with someone else, and I feel like ACR would give me too much control. I like my sims to develop their personalities independent of me, so I don't mess with the base character codes.

However, I love it when other people come on here and tell their ACR stories, especially when they forgot to adjust their settings. And there are certain gameplay scenarios - asylums and BACC, for instance - that ACR appears to be perfect for.

You can set faithfulness for each sim with ACR, up to completely and totally faithful to very, uh, liberated. Though I usually let my sims do what they want, there are a few times where I lock them into faithfulness, like an elderly couple of family sims, or a few specific sims like Cassandra Goth (as a family sim who has been left at the altar, I refuse to believe she'd be willing to hurt someone else). I often lock faithfulness for them when it just doesn't seem feasible that they'd stray. I'm not worried about them initiating the cheating on their spouse, because they are often dedicated, but accepting a flirt from another sim and then receiving the "had affair" memory because a passing romance sim wolf whistled at them and they accepted it.

Aside from that though, I personally find myself with less control with ACR. There have been a number of times where I've set a sim up with another, but they are both infatuated with someone else (ACR gives you the option to view your sims settings and find out who their "one sim" is at any given time). I've also seen sims infatuated with another, but they remain steadfastly dedicated to their spouse.

ACR does has the option to nitpick every last detail, but you can also just let the token stay to default setting.

In reply to dizzy-noodles, pescado's romance mod is a mod that affects the way relationships are handled. Jealousy is affected by personality and aspiration, and some sims will reject a romantic interaction if they are already involved with someone else. There are a few other things addressed, too, but I can't seem to find a rtfm in my folders.

[nikel23]

No bad deeds go unpunished. If I want to make them "have affair" without being caught, I'll just peck them. It's a romantic interaction but romance partner won't be mad about it.

[Darby]

Romancemod rtfm:

1. Sims can now exhibit loyalty to existing relationships and do not randomly
fall in love with anyone who happens to flirt with them. Pleasure sims have
resistance only when in a committed relationship, Romance sims have none. All
other sims have resistance values if they already are in a relationship. This
value increases with level of commitment. Object-assisted actions not presently
supported and bypass this check. Still provides defense against cow attack!

2. Sexual orientation of a sim now actually matters! A very straight sim will
decline homosexual interactions and vice-versa.

3. Sim-jealousy will make more sense: Romance/Pleasure sims, depending on
personality(Nc+Pl+Ou >= 15), are more likely to have "open" relationships
(Pleasure sims only do this outside of commitments), and will not become
jealous (although some are simply hypocrites who think the rules apply to
everyone but them and pleasure si), and sims will no longer spaz at random
people for no discernably sensible reason. Romance sims should never spaz.
It is no longer defined as "cheating" if you are not in an actual committed
relationship, and you will not have knives-memories or "caught cheating" fears
satisfied unless you are actually caught by a partner in a committed
relationship (steady/engaged/married).

4. Flower rage is stomped. Sims no longer spaz out when looking at datereward,
since these have no timestamp and could pertain to a preexisting relationship
or one that no longer exists.

5. FT: Utterly Borked Beauty Wish Code Fix. I have no idea WTF EAxis was trying
to do because the code is utterly warped beyond all logic and reason, as if the
person who wrote it was thoroughly stoned at the time of writing. Which, being
that EAxis is in California, is unsurprising.

[Peni Griffin]

The thing about that Romance mod, and for all I can tell ACR, is that it doesn't address the really relationship-busting aspect of the game - family loyalty. Lovers can always repair their relationship because it had to be so high to begin with (in an unmodded game), especially post-FreeTime and the introduction of BFF status. But the relationship hit when you see some random stranger who dated your sister out with somebody else can take you to enemies in one fell swoop, and when you see your oldest and dearest friend running around on your sister or mom, it's a bear to bounce back from, even when you know perfectly well it's your mom or sister's fault. Ernest Munny studied anger management and was BFF with Clovis Point and it still took forever to rebuild that friendship after Clovis's ill-advised fling with Ernest's mom. This was no doubt exacerbated by the fact that for awhile there every single time Clovis was out with anybody, Ernest would magically appear on the lot to be Very, Very Disappointed at him. Ernest barely knows his Aunt Madge, and he still got into a fistfight with her husband after catching him coming out of a changing booth with the Diva. And as for Minnie Skirt's relationship with Jimmy Phoenix and Lora Wolosenko after her sister Georgette seduced Jimmy into cheating on Lora with her - hoo boy! She can't be in the same room with either of them without poking them, half a lifetime later. Which is a pain because they have a lot of friends in common, and it's not as if Minnie doesn't know what Georgette's like.

[larky]

Peni, romancemod actually does address the family-loyalty thing, to the point that I've been thinking of taking it back out because it kills more of it than makes sense.

[Dizzy-noodles]

Hiya everyone! :)

Hmmm.....I don't think ACR's for me after all.

Oh sorry I just assumed Spencer was a boy's name! lol! I've never seen Pretty Little Liars, I'm not sure if we have it in England. Thankyou for the potions link! I might try one of them!

The boolprop thing sounds interesting.

Thanks for explaining the romance mod. It sounds quite good, it would make more sense than sims getting jealous over little things (says me who does exactly that IRL! I can't help it though, I'm a Scorpio!)

I never thought about aspirations affecting things, but the husband who got angry was a family sim so that would make sense!

The family loyalty thing is interesting, I haven't got that far yet in my affairs.

Anyway, I have managed to have a nearly successful affair, until Flossy autonomously brought Blake home after an outing. I was watching them like a hawk, to see if they'd get away with it, then Max (Flossy's husband) got into bed with Flossy, and cuddled her, and Blake flipped his lid! They've made up now though :) But every man in the neighbourhood seems to want Flossy! She has 3 bolts with everyone! lol!

Thanks for all the help and for explaining everything so well! :) xxx

[Fivey]

I believe (I don't use it) that you can set faithfulness differently with different sims with ACR. This is actually one reason I don't sue it. It's so wonderful when a sim decides on his or her own to be faithful even when I'm trying to set him up with someone else, and I feel like ACR would give me too much control. I like my sims to develop their personalities independent of me, so I don't mess with the base character codes.

However, I love it when other people come on here and tell their ACR stories, especially when they forgot to adjust their settings. And there are certain gameplay scenarios - asylums and BACC, for instance - that ACR appears to be perfect for.

I feel like I have less control with ACR. I don't usually adjust the ACR settings unless I feel like I have to (like if two knowledge sims are barely touching each other even with triple boltage due to low autonomy), so sometimes I get unpredictable results. I like having less control in some aspects.

For instance, I almost lost a very loving relationship in my hood. Brenda Larson decided to cheat on her fiance Beau Broke with a dormie. I don't know how, because she neither kissed or boinked the dormie. Probably just a simple flirt. I did not direct the action, and I know it was ACR because the most interaction the dormie and her have is her influencing him to do her homework. Either way, Beau got jealous. They both lost their love tokens, but I didn't break their engagement because they were a three-bolt couple, and an adorable one at that.

Brenda graduated, and I moved her back in with her parents. Her dad Corey gave her a blunt pep talk when he came home from work, since Jason was still at work. He's the more emotional parent, anyway.

"Cut the crap, Brenda. Seriously, it was your fault. You were the slut. You broke his heart. That was your mistake. You obviously still like him. You are guilty, I can see it in your eyes. You may be telling yourself you don't need him to be happy, but you do. Not for any fiscal or physical reasons, but the fact that you look like you lost a piece of yourself that you never noticed was there until now, and may never possibly get back unless you do something about it. Yes, he is pissed the hell off. I would be too if my high school sweetheart started straying due to complete boredom. You know what, though? I know he still likes you. Go call him right now."
"But dad-"
"Call him right now, or you're grounded. Forever."

So she did, and greeted him with a smooch. They still liked each other, and the time apart certainly did help. They eventually married, and now she's pregnant. Beau still talks crap about her in private, though. To note, I only have up until Open for Business on that computer, so it's harder to regain lost relationships.