The Sims 3 Seasons is officially announced!

[thewp7man]

http://thesims.com/seasons

HURRAH! I'M SO THRILLED!

Here's some screenshots from the announce trailer which you can find here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB5nTGm0j3Q

[Srikandi]

WHOO! I am thrilled too... yes I'm one of those annoying people that thought this should have been in the base game or at least the first EP ;) But glad to be getting it at long last!

My favorite thing in the trailer? UMBRELLAS :) Didn't have that in TS2, always wanted it.

[ButchSims]

that pumpkin carving makes up for the fact that Pumpkins aren't in Supernatural. Maybe this means we can plant them?

[heaven]

I am so stoked for the umbrellas and the festivals. To be honest, most of my poor sims are hermits, never leaving the house unless they need to. So having a reason to go outside and a festival to participate in makes me feel that I will be much more likely to take advantage. Have been staring at that preorder button for a couple hours, debating on whether I want to know more or just give in because I know I will end up pre-ordering regardless.

[ElementMK]

http://i.imgur.com/nvQWT.gif
IT HAPPENED. IT FINALLY HAPPENED.

[GigaRevival]

We finally get swimming in the ocean, guys. SWIMMING.IN.THE.OCEAN.

Good lawd - I'm so excited for this.

[DuskTrooper]

I wonder why they decided to go with the name seasons again. Are they really that uncreative?

[clay4kelly]

I wonder why they decided to go with the name seasons again. Are they really that uncreative?
What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

...ie who cares about the title - it's goddman SEASONS.

[Marky Boy]

I'm about to do what I've never done with a piece of software before... pre-ordering!@

[DuskTrooper]

What's in a name?

There is a lot of meaning within a name.

[Srikandi]

Ocean swimming is awesome :) And it should be so much better than in TS2... where the beach was an object only available on special lots... presumably, you'll be able to swim on ANY OCEAN ANYWHERE.

Which makes me wonder about ponds ;) If you can swim in the ocean, why not in ponds on lots? does the game even know the difference?

I am also REALLY curious about how snow will be implemented.

[heaven]

Srikandi, I think on the simguru blog post, he mentioned being able to go places you've "never been able to go before". I'm guessing these are islands or such in the middle of the ocean that routing didn't allow you to get to previously. Without teleporting or a subway that is. So yes, I imagine any ocean, wherever would be the case. Hopefully swimming doesn't cause too much fatigue!

[clay4kelly]

I wonder if the sharks you can catch with the fishing pole will do anything? Like cause a negative "saw a shark" moodlet (or positive if you're a daredevil) if you swim near the spawner.

[justin1010]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that EA has already annonced another expansion pack that comes only two months after the next one? I mean, sure it's great in a way because there will be a lot of new content for the players, but EA can barely release a two working EP's in a year, let alone three. At least I can say that they made a good choice with Seasons.

[melbrewer367]

So excited!! I want to watch the trailer over and over!! I was also one of those people that thought this should have been a base or earlier EP. I wonder how the trick-or-treating and Easter egg hunting is going to work out. Like is it going to work like the festivals where all the townies just autonomously take part in it, do you initiate it or does the game initiate it, do you still get it if you don't have that season chosen, are we even going to get to choose our 4 seasons like in TS2? Lol Lots of questions but even more excitement. I prefer the realistic EPs so this has me very excited.

[zigersimmer]

I'm still not getting my hopes up. I know EA will disappoint me yet again.

[Willow's Tara]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that EA has already annonced another expansion pack that comes only two months after the next one? I mean, sure it's great in a way because there will be a lot of new content for the players, but EA can barely release a two working EP's in a year, let alone three. At least I can say that they made a good choice with Seasons.

They probably want to make it up for the Showtime and Katy Perry stuff, and giving us two cool exps is good, and I am, sure seasons will still be a while after Supernatural, or maybe they got two teams working on each.

[zigersimmer]

I see Seasons and the Twilight pack complementing each other. After all, don't we generally associate werewolves and sparkly vampires with Halloween and don't we need the fall season to make that work?

[Srikandi]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that EA has already annonced another expansion pack that comes only two months after the next one? I mean, sure it's great in a way because there will be a lot of new content for the players, but EA can barely release a two working EP's in a year, let alone three. At least I can say that they made a good choice with Seasons.

There are definitely completely different teams working on these two EPs. But I would still agree that it's odd ;)

My only guess would be that one or the other of them was originally scheduled for earlier, and got pushed back for technical reasons. Probably Seasons :p

[fraavio]

I'm still not getting my hopes up. I know EA will disappoint me yet again.

While that is true, at least to an extent, I think that this EP is gonna be great regardless of high hopes or disappointments. Even Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, widely regarded as one of the best games ever had its problems. People have to realize that games are made by people, and people fail, and softwares fail as well. So, unless your divinity of choice comes down and design it, games will have glitches and won't be so complete you'll feel like real life is pointless. Also, there are things to take into account. Budget for instance, if you're gonna make a game with an insane amount of content, it's gonna take time and a big team, and more time and a bigger team, means more expenses, which would mean the game being more expensive and while, I'm not gonna lie, I do wish for an awesome perfect game made of victory, I'd refrain from buying a game that costs an insane ammount of money. And I'm fairly certain that if a game costs that much, it'd be very difficult for the developers to make a sufficient profit. So, I'd rather have a great game that even if it disappoint me is still great, than a better than god game that would be just avaliable for those with enough money to buy it. And yes, I know that the The Sims expansions are pricey, you have to consider the making a game involves a lot more than a developing team that, whether you like it or not, is limited by itself, the company and by computer performance. I'm in no way an EA appologist, I just think there's more to creating a game than simply coding and scriptinig and throwing stuff in. There's also the issue of making a game that can run in a lot of computers, so with an expansion based game like The Sims, you have to take into account that expanding the game will demand more from the gamer's computer and thus resulting in lag and crashes. So you have to make a game that pleases the developing team, the gaming company, the test players and the public. Specially the public, so the more a EP has, the more it's gonna demand from your computer, so, if EA delivers a perfect expasion with everything the community wants and stuff the community didn't even think about, it's gonna be so hard on most people's computers that the complains will switch from "I'm gonna get disappointed" to "Why does this shit crash all the time?". And, surprisingly enough, you get both complains from The Sims.

tl;dr: Random ramblings of a annoying know it all that sometimes sound like an EA appologist but gets annoyed with the same things EA haters but recognize that there are limits to what a software company can do. He sounds a little self-righteous sometimes. He's also weird. I'll go ahead and disagree with him.

[Weisskreuz]

So many tears. Tears of joy.

[StardustX]

This is probably the only EP I've actually been excited for...
;__;

[ViolettaVie]

I am very thrilled!

[kattenijin]

that pumpkin carving makes up for the fact that Pumpkins aren't in Supernatural. Maybe this means we can plant them?

Pumpkin pie is a new recipe, so I'd guess yes.

[joandsarah77]

Wow, this is the first EP I've actually been excited about. Putting this on my birthday list for dh to buy me next month! I'll be installing this one even if I have to take Pets, WA and Showtime off to get it to run nicely.

[McNum]

1:15 in the video... Aliens? I wonder if they'll be playable, and what will be special about them.

[christmas fear]

I squealed way too loud at this post. OH MY GOD THOUGH

[Celebriton]

1:15 in the video... Aliens? I wonder if they'll be playable, and what will be special about them.

Sims can woohoo in their spacecraft! hahaha.....

[christmas fear]

I SEE PUMPKINS. Fall, and snow. Oh my god ugh sorry

[RomerJon17]

Everyone was trilled about The Sims 3 Supernatural....
Couple weeks later.....

OMG IT'S THE SIMS 3 SEASON!!!! ( Now this is better than Supernatural )

Better watch out for a lot of Sims fan buying The Sims 3 Season in any gaming store!
But the Season EP will complete me :D

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Well good luck for the users who use old computers....

[IzzyBess]

My life will be completed with this one. I don't need any other EP's. I want to swim in the ocean! And throw the snowballs at complete strangers.

[HystericalParoxysm]

http://www.modyourpanties.com/hosting/38641_120803031824im-pleased-as-fuck.jpg

Srsly, I don't get excited about EPs, but I may have gone FUCK YEAH!! while watching that trailer.

Anyone want to go through frame by frame on the end thing where it lists all the stuff you can do in text?

[kiwi_tea]

Seasons. Treats. Snow. Hail. Sun. Puddles. Stunts. Bobbing. Pumpkins. Tricks. Masks. Eggs. Snowballs. Igloos. Scarves. Gloves. Skates. Hats. Goggles. Rafts. Dives. Tans. Burns. Feasts. Gifts. Blossoms. Pies. Contests. Storms. Goals. Water. Air. Rain. Life.

There. I hope you pity me as much as I hate myself right now. I just did that.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Thanks, kiwi_tea! Yay for scarves and hats!

Oh hell, I'm gonna have to make a knitting animation, aren't I?

[Eeria]

yyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kattenijin]

Sun. Puddles. Stunts. Tricks. Masks. Eggs. Scarves. Gloves. Hats. Goggles. Burns. Gifts. Blossoms. Pies. Contests. Goals. Water. Air. Life.

All already exist in-game (although maybe not quite like they exist in the new EP. :P

Still, like Ms. Salt, "I WANT IT NOW!!!".

[Mellowyellow09]

any water sports?

[tizerist]

So, football is in there too!! My sim already has a chelsea kit, so he will be happy with more footy action.
But, is it just a penalty goalmouth thing like in TS2, or does it go further that that this time? Cause let's be honest, it's a bit...well...pointless for it to be like it was in TS2, you kick, score, fun over. Meh.

[PuffyAmi]

http://s13.postimage.org/t0x4s0pd3/Aliens.jpg

Yayyyy :!:

[Jelboo]

Swimming! In the ocean! At last! :D

[treeag]

Only two months after Supernatural? Weird, this is the first time they break the 6-month cycle. Maybe they know something we don't? The aliens might have told them something... hmm...

[gelfling]

I am happy about the news but where is the greenhouse? If they are going to give us weather then they have to provide for the plants too. Harvestable plants should be vulnerable to the cold temperatures just as the Sims will be. If greenhouses are to be included, that would make my day.

[kittenette069]

YAY!! Oh my gosh, I have tears in my eyes, I'm so happy. I'm going to have to shell out money for a new graphics card, because I want to see all that beautiful weather in HD! :)

[HystericalParoxysm]

Also that all seemed to be in Sunset Valley - no new neighborhood?

[kiwi_tea]

No new neighbourhood is confirmed. Fairly reasonable basis, they wanted to make all the existing towns compatible with seasons. If that meant new textures forseasonal trees from previous EPs, that's a huge enough job. Upside is weather works in all custom worlds. Doesn't function in WA though. Because EA hates those worlds. #nopoodlesinfranceeh?

[PuffyAmi]

Hopefully both Super natural and Seasons will work well and not bring major glitches since they made both expansions around the same time line. Will it all seems rushes or not, I wonder.

[The Terminator]

Epic. After 2 Stuff Packs in a Row… Finally 2 Expansion Packs in a row.
Finally a usage of Holiday Collectors Edition Bonus Content…

[Issie]

Hopefully both Super natural and Seasons will work well and not bring major glitches since they made both expansions around the same time line. Will it all seems rushes or not, I wonder.

So this. As much as I am looking forward to this expansion pack I can't help but be scared.

[Sof_m9]

Now it would be so amazing if EA also gave us a hand holding interaction while walking. Sims walking hand in hand in the rain. .. :lovestruc I've been wanting this for- always.

[danacnbrett]

any water sports?

Off topic: Am I the only one that finds the above funny?

On topic: Seasons, Yay!

[MinghamSmith]

So far, they've confirmed aliens, abductions and the ability to borrow a UFO after befriending an alien. One major alien-related thing we don't already know, though, is whether or not men having alien hybrid babies after being abducted will make a return.

Anyone seen any references to it by the developers on the official forums? I know there was an alien baby prop as an easter egg back in Late Night, but we can't know for sure yet.

(please say yes please say yes please say yes)

[clay4kelly]

http://images.wikia.com/sims/images/d/de/The_Sims_3_Late_Night_Alien_Prop.png
Ha... our Late Night alien baby. I sure hope it was a hint... Seeing men with morning sickness brings me great joy.

[rian90]

Doesn't function in WA though. Because EA hates those worlds. #nopoodlesinfranceeh?

I think it is because they know they screwed something up with those worlds and don't want to take the time to fix it..or maybe they can't fix it without major re-coding. Hopefully it will work in worlds we travel to with Twallan's mod. :) That would be enough for me.

[eskie227]

Only two months after Supernatural? Weird, this is the first time they break the 6-month cycle. Maybe they know something we don't? The aliens might have told them something... hmm...

Well, it may be a combination of wanting good Q4 revenue figures for the company, combined with the end of the Mayan calender on December 21, 2012. After all, the end of the world will make for a shorter 4th quarter for their earnings report.

[yellowstonespirit]

Wahoo!! Wahoo!! Words cannot really express the joy I am feeling right now. :D

[applefeather2]

There will be a festival for each season. :blink: :D :D :!: :!: Weeps in joy all over the floor.

[aGOLDENbox]

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/_infernox_/6052054/24799/original.gif
So. Excited. Take my money now EA.

[JustTheDoll]

*Swears never buying another EP.*
*Seasons is announced.*
I retract my statement.

[applefeather2]

DIVING board, guys, diving board!
"A: One of the fun new objects in The Sims 3 Seasons is the diving board, which allows Sims to make a splash at the pool, whether plunging in with a big cannon ball or slipping into the water with an elegant swan dive."

[Harmz2361]

I said to my mum the other day, Supernatural has been announced so now I only need Pets and that for Christmas.
I told my mum about seasons and this was her reaction...

Mum: Just 2 EPs for Christmas mum, honest mum, EA won't make another EP this year mum. *turns to look at me* Liar! :lol:

[treeag]

That's too bad there's no weather and seasons for WA world. I was hoping I could make snowy Egypt. Oh well. Still happy they finally make the one EP I wanted the most :D

Well, it may be a combination of wanting good Q4 revenue figures for the company, combined with the end of the Mayan calender on December 21, 2012. After all, the end of the world will make for a shorter 4th quarter for their earnings report.

Exactly! Who knows, they probably have inside scoop on this whole the end of the world thing.

[LotrFanboy]

I'll believe weather isn't possible in WA worlds when Twallan says it can't be done. Until then, anything's possible. ;)

[ChrissyMueller]

Wow! I am so happy! It's defenetly a MUST BUY for me.

Have you noticed we are going to have a roller skating rink like in Sims 2. Saw it in the background.

[claudiasharon]

This makes me want to play my sims again! I cannot wait!

[lisfyre]

No new neighbourhood is confirmed. Fairly reasonable basis, they wanted to make all the existing towns compatible with seasons. If that meant new textures forseasonal trees from previous EPs, that's a huge enough job. Upside is weather works in all custom worlds. Doesn't function in WA though. Because EA hates those worlds. #nopoodlesinfranceeh?

Which means EA will be releasing/selling a new world/neighbourhood at the Store soon after the Seasons release.

[rockergrrl37203]

http://thesims.com/seasons

HURRAH! I'M SO THRILLED!

Here's some screenshots from the announce trailer which you can find here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB5nTGm0j3Q

Wow, I really didn't think we'd get Seasons for Sims 3! I'm so excited right now that I have goosebumps! :beer:

[J. M. Pescado]

Looks fake. Everyone knows you can't actually do that. Clearly this is just a trick created with move_objects and the pool. FAAAAAKE. Just another fake claim of stuff they're pretending to do but HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DONE, just like the LAST expansion pack they were talking about that NEVER MATERIALIZED.

[rockergrrl37203]

Just requested November 9th off from work so I can have a long weekend to enjoy Seasons! I'd ask for Tuesday the 6th off but I hate the idea of having to go back to work on Wednesday and I don't want to take the entire week :)

[WooHoo31]

Wow, now I kind of wish I played Sims 3/my computer could handle it. :(

[tizerist]

That's too bad there's no weather and seasons for WA world. I was hoping I could make snowy Egypt.
Yeah that's a massive blow. I need rain in Champs Les Sims, I always planned it to be a fairly rainy environment. And Shang Simla needs variety in it's weather, as China has. Egypt will be ultra-dry in my game, as it always has been.

I feel this will be moddable though. Those of us using Twallan's Traveler need vacation weather even more so. But I'm quite confident about this, after all, vacation hoods also weren't supposed to have pets, but that was quickly fixed.

[applefeather2]

Can't swim in ponds. They just said it has to be a lake, river, ocean out in the world.

[aeval99]

Wow! I am so happy! It's defenetly a MUST BUY for me.

Have you noticed we are going to have a roller skating rink like in Sims 2. Saw it in the background.
I assume that means we will get the skating rink too (since they are basically the same thing). I loved that skating rink. :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/aeval99/smileys/yeah2.gif

[fairybug]

1:15 in the video... Aliens? I wonder if they'll be playable, and what will be special about them.
Yes, they've officially announced that the new Life State for Seasons is Aliens. Apparently, you'll also be able to pilot the flying saucers and play pranks on people with them. Not sure if it's a rabbit hole or a vehicle -- either way, I *squee*d so freaking hard!

[fairybug]

Looks fake. Everyone knows you can't actually do that. Clearly this is just a trick created with move_objects and the pool. FAAAAAKE. Just another fake claim of stuff they're pretending to do but HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DONE, just like the LAST expansion pack they were talking about that NEVER MATERIALIZED.
What? I don't understand.

[fairybug]

Does anybody know if male sims can get pregnant again, now?

[LotrFanboy]

What? I don't understand.

You're not alone. There aren't many people who understand Pescado. ;)

[aeval99]

What? I don't understand.
It's a Pescado thing, don't worry about it.

[coltraz]

Yes, they've officially announced that the new Life State for Seasons is Aliens. Apparently, you'll also be able to pilot the flying saucers and play pranks on people with them. Not sure if it's a rabbit hole or a vehicle -- either way, I *squee*d so freaking hard!

Aliens as a life state? Where does that fit in, then, hmm? Between Child and Teen or Young Adult and Adult? Or Adult and Elder? :jest:

[aeval99]

Aliens as a life state? Where does that fit in, then, hmm? Between Child and Teen or Young Adult and Adult? Or Adult and Elder? :jest:
For anyone who's seen the movie, it's obviously during the gestational stage. Hmmmmm... my Sims might want to take spaghetti off the menu ;)

[Randee15]

Even though my current computer will probably blow up if I installed it, I've so pre-ordered. *clappy hands* And, hey, it comes out 11 days after my birthday, so who knows about the computer part? :heyhey:

[Howabominable]

I'm really excited about Halloween costumes, simply because of all the cracked-out store content bunny costumes and junk they've given us with no opportunity to use it. I can finally dress my toddlers up as dogs for a reason!

[Zokugai]

Aliens as a life state? Where does that fit in, then, hmm? Between Child and Teen or Young Adult and Adult? Or Adult and Elder? :jest:

Life State =/= Life Stage.

Life States: Vampires, Mummies, Aliens, normal sims
Live Stages: Infant, Toddler, Child, Teen, Young Adult, Adult, Elder

What they said was aliens were a new type of occult.

Reading comprehension is our friend, guys.

[zigersimmer]

What? I don't understand.
Pescado means that Seasons is not yet real, the same way that the Twilight pack is not yet real. All we have been given are some graphics of something EA is promising to deliver in "the future", which is also not real because it does not actually exist.

[mflaha55]

Yes, they've officially announced that the new Life State for Seasons is Aliens...

What? No Plantsims? I kinda like Plantsims. They grow on you after awhile. ;)

[freelancergal]

It's a Pescado thing, don't worry about it.
In Pescado's world, it's Schrödinger's Seasons until he has a copy in his hands.

:p

[coltraz]

Life State =/= Life Stage.

Life States: Vampires, Mummies, Aliens, normal sims
Live Stages: Infant, Toddler, Child, Teen, Young Adult, Adult, Elder

What they said was aliens were a new type of occult.

Reading comprehension is our friend, guys.

That reply isn't directed to me, right?

[shaaaii]

That reply isn't directed to me, right?
I believe it does, as your post was quoted because you were questioning how aliens were a life state.

[coltraz]

Man, I really am stupid. :rofl:

Even though fairybug said life STATE I kept thinking they meant STAGE and didn't get why I was being told what I already knew. I guess all this Seasons excitement is dulling my wits.

[kiwi_tea]

All the world's a state, and the men and women merely players.

[lewisb40]

Can't swim in ponds. They just said it has to be a lake, river, ocean out in the world.

I was sadden by that, really wondered if I could place lots along the shore line like I did in Bluewater. It was cool having your sim take a swim from their own back yard instead of making them go to a beach lot.

I am still happy for the floaties. Make a exchange between the two.

[Srikandi]

What? No Plantsims? I kinda like Plantsims. They grow on you after awhile. ;)

Fairies have a lot of the functionality of the plantsim.

I was sadden by that, really wondered if I could place lots along the shore line like I did in Bluewater. It was cool having your sim take a swim from their own back yard instead of making them go to a beach lot.

Well, presumably if you have a lot right NEXT TO the beach/river/lake... so long as the lot boundaries don't extend into the water... you can swim? Shouldn't really matter to the sim if they're off the lot (except for kids and curfew >< ).

Still too bad you can't make a swimming hole for the kids on an inland lot. It's kind of a puzzling restriction :) wonder what the technical reason is.

Edit: here's another question: DAY LENGTH. Will days be longer (relative to night) in summer than winter? SHOULD be!

[Zokugai]

That reply isn't directed to me, right?

I think you already got this from Shaaaii, but yes, it was. "Life State" is what EA calls "Occults". It's a type of sim, not an age of sim.

[kennyinbmore]

I'm just glad my TS3 EP boycott can come to an end :)

[lewisb40]

Well, presumably if you have a lot right NEXT TO the beach/river/lake... so long as the lot boundaries don't extend into the water... you can swim? Shouldn't really matter to the sim if they're off the lot (except for kids and curfew >< ).

Still too bad you can't make a swimming hole for the kids on an inland lot. It's kind of a puzzling restriction :) wonder what the technical reason is.

Edit: here's another question: DAY LENGTH. Will days be longer (relative to night) in summer than winter? SHOULD be!

Yeah you can still swim, but not leaving the lot allows my sim parents to get in a little fun without getting a baby sitter to go swim. I guess it was something I enjoyed that is a moot point now, open neighborhood and all. Now thinking about it, the beach lot will not extend into the water either, so parents can't swim in the ocean with the little one is on the beach lot, can they? Shoot, get my sim the lousy babysitter.

[lisfyre]

I'm just glad my TS3 EP boycott can come to an end :)

Me too. I passed on Pets, boycotted SHT because I think EA should have put all that or most of it in LN and I'm passing on SuperNatural. My last EP was Generations so this has been a long time coming!! I'm so excited for this EP and no desire to play the game now that I've seen the Season's trailer. I need it now.

[Sgloomi]

Not for nothing (as they used to say in The West Wing) but passing on the good things Showtime might have given you, just cos EA hadn't made them yet in an EP from two years before, seems a bit like having a snit and cutting your nose off to spite your face.

[1ebonychick1]

This is the first sims 3 expansion that I have actually been interested enough in to consider pre ordering.

Hopefully both Super natural and Seasons will work well and not bring major glitches since they made both expansions around the same time line. Will it all seems rushes or not, I wonder.
I was thinking the same thing.

[Laisanae]

I AM SO HAPPY FOR OCEAN SWIMMING IT'S ABSURD!

The only thing that worries me though that we have only seen the sims swimming (which is awesome), but will we get other activites at last? Like playing with a ball in the water, or swimming belts for kids?

[olomaya]

They've shown sims on a floatable bed out in the ocean (which I would presume/hope you can use in pools as well). I think this may be the raft that was mentioned at the end during the quick "Play With..." run through in the trailer.

[Srikandi]

here's another question: DAY LENGTH. Will days be longer (relative to night) in summer than winter? SHOULD be!

This got answered yesterday on Graham's twitter: YES! :D Nice for vampires, I guess :)

Between the seasonal cycles and the moon phases, sims' lives are getting a lot more dynamic and interesting... no more "every day the same" syndrome!

[AintNothingButAMistake]

I can't wait for Seasons!!!!! Feeling a bit sad about Supernatural tho, it's being a bit neglected. :/

[MiniMimi]

I don't understand anything about that lot restriction, huh. Sooo in Riverview sims will be able to swim where that car wreck is in the river bed (near the bridge) but not if there's a river or a pond in, say, a community park; am I correct? All they showed is adults swimming, I'm sure kids will be able to swim too but what about the tods and the pets? Crossing my fingers that sims resting on the floating air rafts will be suntanning! I also hope tired sims might drown, just like in the pool :)

[Srikandi]

This is interesting: "The new Seasons settings that work on a per-save basis are actually the first of that type in the game; we created new tech to support it, which came after the new population controls were implemented. I love the flexibility it provides for certain options - perhaps it's something we can do for more options in the future. It's great to hear feedback on that type of stuff. " (Graham's twitter)

THAT suggests... more EPs after Seasons ;) for those that have been wondering!

[matrix54]

Here's to another year of non-mediocrity! :beer:

[kiwi_tea]

Given the sheer number of options they listed in their surveys for other EPs, and the fact that Ryan Connor stated in a whole bunch of interviews something along the lines of "There's life in the old girl yet" (well, actually, "We have many interesting directions to take The Sims 3 yet").

I'd like to see them make the farming EP they talked about in the survey, which was separate from the Seasons EP. I think it'd go great combined with seasons, and right now rural sims really don't have heaps to do other than garden and fish.

They also listed concepts for an EP based on being a billionaire (yawn), a university EP, Reality TV based EP (OH DEAR GOD NO), a tropical island EP, theme-park EP. They've definitely expressed interest in going beyond 8 EPs.

[itsamariokart]

EA actually listening to the fans? what is this sorcery? D:

But on a serious note, yayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayay!!! :D UMBRELLAS <3 I love the idea of tanning.

& ALIENS :D :D

[lewisb40]

I will be fangurl, flailing if a farming EP came out. I would love that one, I think.

[coltraz]

I will be fangurl, flailing if a farming EP came out. I would love that one, I think.

Same here. In TS2 I loooved farming with this one family (vegetables) and selling them with OFB at a fruit/vegetable market I had built. (Being a farmer in TS3 isn't as fun...) I'd love to be able to recreate that, only with barnyard animals in addition to the crops. :) And the ability to build a market and sell the stuff, too, of course.

[LotrFanboy]

I, too, love the sound of a farming EP. Also, I'd love a proper Open for Business for Sims 3, this time with some kind of banking system attached to it. My sims demand mortgages and separate bank accounts! :lol:

Aside from that, the university and vacation themes sound good to me as well.

[lisfyre]

I've been asking for a farming EP since Sims 2 because unless you're vegetarian - hotdogs, steaks, turkeys, eggs and cheese DO NOT grow on bushes. I want my farmers to be able to open a roadside stand/kiosk by their driveway and sell fresh produce, poultry, eggs, meat and some fresh bread, jellies, jams and other homemade stuff. Which will really work with the festivals they're giving us in Seasons. Go to the Country Faire and buy home made crafts and foods. While we're at it, throw in some hobbies and crafts like stamp collecting, scrapbooking, sewing, quilting, canning, baking, etc., ad infinitum

I'd love an OFB type EP so I can have my bakery and clothing shop again. I would also love a University EP. Have your sims major in a certain field and graduate and have the companies offer them jobs out of Uni. The higher the grades, the better the job offers. If you don't go to Uni then you start at the bottom of the job pool and work your way up by going to school part time.

I wish there was a way to stay in a certain job - i.e. the Medical career - I want my sim to be a nurse and stay a nurse not go and progress to Doctor and on up. I wish EA would tweak that.

[ssd21345]

man my country is translated it to "spring,summer,autumn,winter"LOL NAME :rofl:

[kiwi_tea]

I want a farming EP, I'm from a farm. But I sure as hell don't want my sims to slaughter animals any more complex or articulated than the fish they can catch. Harvest produce from livestock. Yes. Have relationships with livestock. Yes. But I don't see any way to turn animals into meat that doesn't mock and trivialise their deaths, though, unless the animals are basically not sims that other sims can interact with. In which case, I don't even want them to bother, I want to make farmers who love their pigs and harvest... ...dunno, truffles or something. I like the idea of cash crops that was mentioned in the survey - corn and coffee and the like.

*girds himself for 200 disagrees*

[heaven]

I want a farming EP, I'm from a farm. But I sure as hell don't want my sims to slaughter animals any more complex or articulated than the fish they can catch. Harvest produce from livestock. Yes. Have relationships with livestock. Yes. But I don't see any way to turn animals into meat that doesn't mock and trivialise their deaths, though, unless the animals are basically not sims that other sims can interact with. In which case, I don't even want them to bother, I want to make farmers who love their pigs and harvest... ...dunno, truffles or something. I like the idea of cash crops that was mentioned in the survey - corn and coffee and the like.

*girds himself for 200 disagrees*

Kiwi, I am totally with you. I love bacon and steaks and all that. But I buy that from the grocery. Isn't that the way it comes? You know, on trees or something?!?!

No way would my sims, if we were given a farm RP, would ever have a slaughter house. Probably wouldn't even sell the pets at an auction for that purpose either. My aunt and uncle live on a small farm as well. The rule was, if it had a name, it was a pet. Needless to say, everything that came beyond their gate had a name besides the chicken eggs. My sims would show their lovely cows and goats and chickens at the FFA/Country Fair and win blue ribbons for pies and jams. Milk the cow, collect the eggs, say hello to Charlotte up in the barn.

[olomaya]

I want a farming EP, I'm from a farm. But I sure as hell don't want my sims to slaughter animals any more complex or articulated than the fish they can catch. Harvest produce from livestock. Yes. Have relationships with livestock. Yes. But I don't see any way to turn animals into meat that doesn't mock and trivialise their deaths, though, unless the animals are basically not sims that other sims can interact with. In which case, I don't even want them to bother, I want to make farmers who love their pigs and harvest... ...dunno, truffles or something. I like the idea of cash crops that was mentioned in the survey - corn and coffee and the like.

*girds himself for 200 disagrees*

Well not really seeing anything all that disagreeable although cowplants eat Sims and players form relationships with Sims all the time and then kill them. People always want to know new ways to kill their Sims whenever a new EP comes out so death isn't really a heavy subject in the game.

Having said that, it would take a herculean amount of quirk to portray a slaughterhouse in a way palatable and compatible with the Sims series style. I just don't think it could be done. If they did have a farming EP, the best approach would be to just use animals that can provide renewable products, i.e. sheep (wool), chickens (eggs) and cows (milk). Personally, I'd love to see llamas, ducks, ostriches, goats and almond trees so we have some variety.

[kennyinbmore]

THAT suggests... more EPs after Seasons ;) for those that have been wondering!

As long as I have Seasons, anything else is just extra gravy :)

[Zokugai]

What about non-meat farming? You know, like dairy cows instead of beef cows. Or sheep for shearing rather than mutton.

Hey, maybe that would require sheperding/cowherding, which would mean they could add in wild wolves, too.

[fraavio]

I'm on board with the non-meat farming. Not because I think it'd offend people's sensibilities(even though I think it might) but because I think it'd be hard to pull it off. So, if the farming EP does come out, I think it should stick to shearing sheep, milking cows, getting them eggies from chickens. It'd be nice to have those. If that were the case, I'd go against my personal policy against self-sims and would totally make one so I could build my family's smallholding.

But like someone up in the thread mentioned, Supernatural and Seasons were what most of us were waiting for the most sought after EPs so everything that comes after is just extra gravy.

I think this may get me a few disagrees but while I do think that TS3 does have a lot of room to expand, I think that unless they pull off stuff that is complete and broadly satisfying as SN and SEA have the potential to be, I think we may be stuck with what some of us will feel like are other GENs(bear in mind that I do like GEN and I'm going from the point of view of a lot of people that really don't see the point of it). I think that this could be because of how our standards will be higher as SN and SEA are what people have wanted for little over three years. So, my point is that as SEA and SN will be made of win, the potential for disappointment with the next EPs will be incredibly high. Be warned.

Also, something just occured to me that this may very much be the case as The Sims is a game that relies a lot on its community and as this is the case, I think that if they try to think too much outside the box, by giving us an unorthodox(read not demanded by the majority of the community) EP, they me be in for failure. What I think, though, is that if they do decide to go towards an unexpected turn, they may hit a brick wall. I think that the community is both the franchise's biggest asset and liability. You don't see a lot of games that people stick so closely to what's happening as well as contribute so much to the game itself as it happens with The Sims. And this is truly amazing. However, relying this much on the community gives little space to be daring because they may upset even more a community that has a tendency to bash them due to their mistakes. This is kind of the reason that we don't see many original games coming out around, since they're usually sequels and adaptations. I see both sides of the coin: we as a gaming community want what we had in TS1 and TS2 plus other stuff, but if the other stuff deviates too much from our expectations, we'll be mad and bashing EA like it certainly happens when a new EP comes out and doesn't deliver.

[helpdalutz]

I'm really excited for this EP as well. Sounds like the music is going to be good too. Does anyone know where I listen to the full song that was in the trailer. It might (most likely) will be in the EP but I can't wait!

[lewisb40]

I don't think there would be a slaughterhouse included with a farming EP. I don't think anything that dramatic would be included in the sims. My thoughts for a farming EP would be like gardening, take your livestock to the grocery store RH for income. Also I agree with fraavio about being able to shear sheep, and milking cows to gain income. Sell the wool or have some type of loom device to make fabric or thread. I don't ever think EA would include something like slaughtering animals for income. Although I must admit, it would be kind of cool to have livestock missing because of the werewolves running through town, or on a full moon night. Hunt them down!

[Lorenzus]

I hope seasons won't lag my game... i'm really looking forward to this EP.

[Lois99]

I too would love a farming EP, and especially chickens!

Eggs could be collected from a chicken coup, so not that difficult to do, and to be honest I can't see why you couldn't have a coup like structure for larger animals and collect steaks and burgers in the same way you collect eggs (as if they had been discarded), and have the animal live on. That would be realism enough for me, I really don't want to see any animals slaughtered.

I can't wait for this EP it is going to make everything better, but I'm still hoping for a farming EP at some point

[olomaya]

I too would love a farming EP, and especially chickens!

Eggs could be collected from a chicken coup, so not that difficult to do, and to be honest I can't see why you couldn't have a coup like structure for larger animals and collect steaks and burgers in the same way you collect eggs (as if they had been discarded), and have the animal live on.

That's a very literal interpretation of giving a "pound of flesh but no jot of blood". ;)

[rian90]

I think this may get me a few disagrees but while I do think that TS3 does have a lot of room to expand, I think that unless they pull off stuff that is complete and broadly satisfying as SN and SEA have the potential to be, I think we may be stuck with what some of us will feel like are other GENs(bear in mind that I do like GEN and I'm going from the point of view of a lot of people that really don't see the point of it).

Okay, at the risk of stereotyping in my post about stereotyping.....not all of us feel that SN is even in the same category as Seasons. I put it with Showtime...has some nice stuff but don't want 90% of the EP. I read this opinion in a variety of places, less commonly here because people can get a bit irate if their fave EP is not well loved by all. :)

Also, I really liked Generations and would not mind another pack that gives us a bunch of interaction although I do agree that it was a wee bit weak. I do see the point of it though and I would suggest that many people see that Gen did add a lot to the game play, especially with children and elders.

Overall, I imagine more people are not buying SN than GEN. I would be very curious to see the numbers. :) SN is very well done but the theme simply does not appeal to everyone while GEN is very GENeric, so most people buy it.

Seasons is going to be the best so far though and probably sell the most copies, especially if the reviews come out and folks see that it won't take a mega computer to run. Seasons will sell well because it adds something to the game that appeals to many people, a simulation of life. It works with a realistic and a fantasy theme, unlike SN.

[LotrFanboy]

Yeah, the only thing I really didn't like about Generations (besides the usual bugs and glitches, of course) was that they didn't give us enough. It was a very light EP, content wise. However, the theme itself was very good. I just wish we had gotten more of it.

[BionixWV]

I've already moved out the Alto's & Landgraab's in Sunset Valley,tore down their homes,tore down the fishing spot in that area to reserve for Seasons. One 60x60 lot for each time of year.

[Tzigone]

Having said that, it would take a herculean amount of quirk to portray a slaughterhouse in a way palatable and compatible with the Sims series style. I just don't think it could be done. If they did have a farming EP, the best approach would be to just use animals that can provide renewable products, i.e. sheep (wool), chickens (eggs) and cows (milk). Personally, I'd love to see llamas, ducks, ostriches, goats and almond trees so we have some variety.Call slaughter house. Trailer comes and collects cows. Tomorrow the mailman delivers meat, just the same as when you receive wedding gifts.

[fraavio]

Also, something just occured to me that this may very much be the case as The Sims is a game that relies a lot on its community and as this is the case, I think that if they try to think too much outside the box, by giving us an unorthodox(read not demanded by the majority of the community) EP, they me be in for failure. What I think, though, is that if they do decide to go towards an unexpected turn, they may hit a brick wall. I think that the community is both the franchise's biggest asset and liability. You don't see a lot of games that people stick so closely to what's happening as well as contribute so much to the game itself as it happens with The Sims. And this is truly amazing. However, relying this much on the community gives little space to be daring because they may upset even more a community that has a tendency to bash them due to their mistakes. This is kind of the reason that we don't see many original games coming out around, since they're usually sequels and adaptations. I see both sides of the coin: we as a gaming community want what we had in TS1 and TS2 plus other stuff, but if the other stuff deviates too much from our expectations, we'll be mad and bashing EA like it certainly happens when a new EP comes out and doesn't deliver.

One thing I just realised that illustrates what I mean. It's not really EP related, it is SP related, though . I may have not realised it because it's about one of my favorite SPs, Fast Lane. From what I've seen, Fast Lane isn't that popular among the community because it caters to a somewhat specific crowd. I think I would fit this crowd. When I saw it came with the rockabilly music style, I was thrilled because even though it's not my all time favorite music style, it's right up there among my favorite ones. So when I saw it had music by Reverend Horton Heat, Brian Setzer, Supersuckers(though I don't consider them rockabilly but they're good) and other stuff I can't remember now. Also, some of the clothing and decor that comes with it are almost always certainly in my sims' households. It doesn't really cater to the whole community and, because it was something that wasn't really demanded or sought after by the community, many people didn't like it much. But then again, that's my opinion based on what I've seen.

[zigersimmer]

I want a farming EP, I'm from a farm. But I sure as hell don't want my sims to slaughter animals any more complex or articulated than the fish they can catch. Harvest produce from livestock. Yes. Have relationships with livestock. Yes. But I don't see any way to turn animals into meat that doesn't mock and trivialise their deaths, though, unless the animals are basically not sims that other sims can interact with. In which case, I don't even want them to bother, I want to make farmers who love their pigs and harvest... ...dunno, truffles or something. I like the idea of cash crops that was mentioned in the survey - corn and coffee and the like.

*girds himself for 200 disagrees*
Butcher rabbithole. Problem solved. I want to turn pigs into bacon. Mmmmmm...bacon.

Click disagree if you actually think meat grows on trees.

[rian90]

It doesn't really cater to the whole community and, because it was something that wasn't really demanded or sought after by the community, many people didn't like it much. But then again, that's my opinion based on what I've seen.

I don't know..seems like new automobiles were sought after by the community at that time. I imagine Fastlane did better than Katy Perry, Diesel and some of the other stuff packs. In my opinion, the best place to try 'out of the box' is with a stuff pack.

[aeval99]

Overall, I imagine more people are not buying SN than GEN. I would be very curious to see the numbers. :) SN is very well done but the theme simply does not appeal to everyone while GEN is very GENeric, so most people buy it.

Seasons is going to be the best so far though and probably sell the most copies, especially if the reviews come out and folks see that it won't take a mega computer to run. Seasons will sell well because it adds something to the game that appeals to many people, a simulation of life. It works with a realistic and a fantasy theme, unlike SN.
While I agree that Seasons will be the most popular pack of this series (Sims 3), I'm fairly confident that SN will be more popular than Generations. Personally, I like Generations, but I think that its perceived lack of content hurt it quite a bit.

I suspect that SN will be very Similar to Pets. Generally popular, but with a small minority that simply aren't interested in adding such a specific aspect to their game (no matter what the quality of the pack).

I'm just thrilled to have two fantastic packs be released back-to-back. There will be something for everyone and we'll all be happy little Simmers.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/aeval99/smileys/banana.gif

[rian90]

While I agree that Seasons will be the most popular pack of this series (Sims 3), I'm fairly confident that SN will be more popular than Generations. Personally, I like Generations, but I think that it's perceived lack of content hurt it quite a bit.

More popular does not always relate to sales. The people who love SN will buy it and they will love it. They will rank it highly when asked which pack they like.

On the other hand, SN creatures does not appeal to everyone and I see many more people saying they will not buy it because they don't want to spend that much money when they won't use most of the pack.

On the other hand, Generations might have less content but it adds some much needed interactions in the game that those who buy SN and those who do not buy SN want.

Generations is a game that has wider appeal only because it is more general, more generic, and many feel it is necessary.

SN is a game that has a specific appeal to a subset of players, which might even be the majority of players, but is not all of them. The thing that might help SN is that it might bring in new players. But it is still a pack that evokes wide differences in opinions..some love it, some hate it. :)

[aeval99]

More popular does not always relate to sales. :)

No it doesn't. However, on this occasion I was using popular to mean sales, not perceived quality. With the timing of these releases it will be quite interesting to see the sales numbers through the holiday season. :report:

[rian90]

No it doesn't. However, on this occasion I was using popular to mean sales, not perceived quality. With the timing of these releases it will be quite interesting to see the sales numbers through the holiday season. :report:

I absolutely agree! Personally, I don't care for occults but I love those rabbitholes in SN! However, with the release of Seasons so close, I might just skip SN until the mods can eliminate all occults (zombies too) without losing the full moon. Without Seasons, I might have broke down and bought it anyway. :)

I think the timing will have an affect.

[itsamariokart]

I've been thinking. Sims can now get tans and sunburns, but what about black sims? will they tan too?

[MinghamSmith]

I've been thinking. Sims can now get tans and sunburns, but what about black sims? will they tan too?

I'm assuming tanning and burns will be handled through some kind of temporary overlays that darken the skin slightly or add burned patches, perhaps similar to the effect for vampire skin in programming terms. (IE: it's not actually a separate skin that replaces the original) I've noticed that when I make black vampires, the skin overlay is far less noticeable than on lighter skintones. Perhaps whatever is used for tanning will also show up less on skin that's already dark?

[matrix54]

It should be the darker you are, the less likely your are at getting a sunburn, but that's just too much work. :rofl:

[TheLB]

It's amazing how happy the small things in life make me. Like umbrellas. And jack-o-lanterns.

In other news, pie eating contests? Pie eating contests.

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(The lack of articulation in this post is inversely proportional to my level of excitement.)

[kennyinbmore]

I think this may get me a few disagrees but while I do think that TS3 does have a lot of room to expand, I think that unless they pull off stuff that is complete and broadly satisfying as SN and SEA have the potential to be, I think we may be stuck with what some of us will feel like are other GENs(bear in mind that I do like GEN and I'm going from the point of view of a lot of people that really don't see the point of it).

I'm not buying SN, but I get what you're saying and I agree. To be honest once I have SEA in my hands I'mnot even sure they can create another EP to interest me. It'll probably be my last EP until TS4. Assuming they make it of course

[RomerJon17]

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/p/W/2/bush-snowball.gif

I can't wait for the snow ball fight :D

[olomaya]

I'm not buying SN, but I get what you're saying and I agree. To be honest once I have SEA in my hands I'mnot even sure they can create another EP to interest me. It'll probably be my last EP until TS4. Assuming they make it of course

Yeah, I actually think TS3 has more longevity than its predecessors simply because the EPs (in my opinion) have been less satisfying in regards to extended gameplay. That said, University is a popular and much-requested EP theme that people would like to see return. Granted, yes, Seasons is/was way popular by far but if EA came out with a University EP, I think it would make decent sales. And while I don't see much fervor for OFB outside of this site, I know that I would buy any EP that gave us the opportunity to own our own businesses. We still don't have real open restaurants in the game and I think that feature would be a big draw for people as well.

[rian90]

And while I don't see much fervor for OFB outside of this site, I know that I would buy any EP that gave us the opportunity to own our own businesses. We still don't have real open restaurants in the game and I think that feature would be a big draw for people as well.

I browse three other forums on a regular basis and OFB is requested by many of the forum goers. The official forums seem to be younger folks, maybe not, but it seems that way. OFB was definitely strategy and challenging so maybe it is not that fun for some folks. I loved it and will feel very disappointed if we don't at least get the ability to run businesses and restaurants! I actually would have preferred OFB to Seasons but very happy Seasons is coming.

[LotrFanboy]

I actually would have preferred OFB to Seasons but very happy Seasons is coming.

I literally reread this sentence over and over again for a good 30-45 seconds while pondering whether I agreed with it or not. :lol:

That's tough. As much as I want an OFB for Sims 3, I'm not 100% sure I want it that much. I will say this: If seasons is at the top my list of EPs I can't live without, then OFB is right there with it. Maybe Seasons is 1a and OFB is 1b. Or maybe it's the other way around. Gah! :faceslap:

They're both just so awesome I don't know if I can choose...

[Srikandi]

I browse three other forums on a regular basis and OFB is requested by many of the forum goers. The official forums seem to be younger folks, maybe not, but it seems that way. OFB was definitely strategy and challenging so maybe it is not that fun for some folks. I loved it and will feel very disappointed if we don't at least get the ability to run businesses and restaurants! I actually would have preferred OFB to Seasons but very happy Seasons is coming.

I'm an older Simmer, and I disliked OFB... WAY to micromanagy for my taste.

I enjoy strategy games, and play them (even "store" games like Recettear), but the gameplay in OFB, to my mind, was so discordant with the rest of the game and so repetitive and time-consuming that I grew to really dislike it.

Not saying those who DID enjoy it shouldn't have another shot at it ;) And maybe with some changes in the implementation I would enjoy it more.

[rian90]

I'm an older Simmer, and I disliked OFB... WAY to micromanagy for my taste.

I am sure that is why EA took away so much of the challenge of this game..to much micromanagement. In my opinion, they took away a little too much. OFB could get a bit tedious..I could do without having to chat up every customer and the crazy restocking of shelves. :) An autonomous version of Ani's mod would be fine with me. Allow us to stock through a store inventory, set up a few deco items in the store, and then let the customers buy, rather like the cash registers we have now. Give us the ability to manage the business accounts, separate from the home accounts, and possibly invest profits back into the shop after paying employees. I would not think that would be too difficult to either implement or play.

I have four children, ranging from 12 to 24 and I easily say that while all are intrigued with the Sims, they don't like the same things about the game that I do. :) Of course, there are exceptions. Could be that I am the exception!

Edit: Looks like I was wrong anyway...according to someone on the survey thread, the biggest request on the official forums is for an ofb/business/own your own something pack. So guess we are all on the same track.

[RomerJon17]

New Game Features

Ocean Swimming:
Sims are able to swim on oceans near beaches and coastal areas.
It can be done year round (all seasons).
Sims cannot swim on waterways/lakes at community/residential lots.[2]
SimsVIP Description: For the first time ever, your Sims can head out into the ocean for a swim in The Sims 3 Seasons! Whether it’s taking a dip off of the sunny beaches of Sunset Valley, or going for a paddle around the murky waters surrounding Bridgeport, your Sims are no longer confined to swimming only in pools. Explore previously unreachable areas in the world, or take along a floatie lounger for some relaxation! Your Sims can even brave the icy waters during winter in search of the Polar Bear Club moodlet!

Diving:
Diving board(s) is/are added in the pack, which means Sims are able to dive in swimming pools.
Description: Sims can take a plunge using the all new Diving Board! Sims can enter the pool using a big cannon ball or slipping into the water with an elegant swan dive.

Snowboarding:
Sims can snowboard on half-pipes.
You can snowboard throughout the year as artificial snow will be on the half-pipes when snow isn't on the ground.
Description: Your Sims can head to the winter festival or plop down the snowboard half-pipe in their very own backyards to start learning how to snowboard! Practice makes perfect; the more time your Sims spend on the half-pipe, the better they will get, and the more EPIC the tricks they’ll be able to do!

Illness:
Sims' health can get affected.
Examples are:
Sims can get tan when stayed out in the sun for too long
They can get struck by lightning during a storm
They can catch a cold
They can freeze, but other Sims can warm them

Description: The weather can also directly affect the health of your Sims, giving them a tan if they stay out in the sun, getting them struck by lightning during a storm or even making them catch a cold or possibly freeze to death. Sims can get seasonal allergies but a quick trip to the hospital to get an allergy shot will clear your Sims’ symptoms quickly.

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They can freeze, but other Sims can warm them
Awwwww I love that, just hug them to keep them warm :)

More info on this Sims Wikia site :)
http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sims_3:_Seasons

[Shimrod101]

New Game Features


Have you been MIA for a week or so? Everything you've listed is Old News.

[orkhid22]

I've been thinking. Sims can now get tans and sunburns, but what about black sims? will they tan too?

As in real life and what i recall from the sims2 black sims and or real people can tan and get sunburns. how do i know.. i'm a black person! HAHAHAHA and when i play the sims i 90% of the time make black sims. In the Sims2 i always had my sims lay out, my black sims some would tan, others would get a sunburn. To be perfectly honest with you. I dont think the sims franchise truly recognize the "color" to mean "race." It's a 50/50 chance when you choose to sunbath... tan or burn. that's it.

[kennyinbmore]

Yeah, I actually think TS3 has more longevity than its predecessors simply because the EPs (in my opinion) have been less satisfying in regards to extended gameplay. That said, University is a popular and much-requested EP theme that people would like to see return. Granted, yes, Seasons is/was way popular by far but if EA came out with a University EP, I think it would make decent sales. And while I don't see much fervor for OFB outside of this site, I know that I would buy any EP that gave us the opportunity to own our own businesses. We still don't have real open restaurants in the game and I think that feature would be a big draw for people as well.

For some reason I don't see the open restaurants returning although I'd have to reconsider my previous post if they actually did it. I was never an OFB fan, it was the one TS2 EP I didn't get much out of other than the servos. They were introduced with OFB right? It's been so long I can't remember :)

[shaaaii]

For some reason I don't see the open restaurants returning although I'd have to reconsider my previous post if they actually did it. I was never an OFB fan, it was the one TS2 EP I didn't get much out of other than the servos. They were introduced with OFB right? It's been so long I can't remember :)
Open restaurants were open from the basegame ;) all the shops were.

[Retarded_Pig]

Open restaurants were open from the basegame ;) all the shops were.
I think they mean the Bistro/Diner, those are rabbitholes.

[shaaaii]

I think they mean the Bistro/Diner, those are rabbitholes.
I thought he was talking about TS2?

[lisfyre]

Well not really seeing anything all that disagreeable although cowplants eat Sims and players form relationships with Sims all the time and then kill them. People always want to know new ways to kill their Sims whenever a new EP comes out so death isn't really a heavy subject in the game.

Having said that, it would take a herculean amount of quirk to portray a slaughterhouse in a way palatable and compatible with the Sims series style. I just don't think it could be done. If they did have a farming EP, the best approach would be to just use animals that can provide renewable products, i.e. sheep (wool), chickens (eggs) and cows (milk). Personally, I'd love to see llamas, ducks, ostriches, goats and almond trees so we have some variety.

I'm not talking about actually seeing your farmer sim butcher his/her cows/sheep/chickens for their meat. I'm all about conveying that in my farm, I sell steaks, hotdogs, eggs, milk from my animals because I'm a farmer with those animals as well as sell my produce. Didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I did that.

[rian90]

I'm not talking about actually seeing your farmer sim butcher his/her cows/sheep/chickens for their meat. I'm all about conveying that in my farm, I sell steaks, hotdogs, eggs, milk from my animals because I'm a farmer with those animals as well as sell my produce. Didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I did that.

I don't think anyone was offended. The point is that EA doesn't add controversy into their game. Eating meat is accepted in pretty much every culture and those that don't eat meat have a variety of reasons for not doing so, some their personal morals, others for health reasons, etc. Being offended because someone doesn't agree with them is intolerance. I didn't see any of that here regarding this subject, just comments that EA is a game of sunshine and roses.

On the other hand, they did mention meat in the farming survey! So it is possible that people here have it all wrong! I completely understand the moral issues for some folks, but hey, there are those with moral issues against witches and vampires, but they put those in games! Where I live, we had folks leave a party (not at my house) when my son pulled out his Magic the Gathering cards.

I don't want to get into a discussion of meat...just adding to the discussion of why EA may or may not include meat in a farming pack they may or may not create. :)

[frankie]

I don't think anyone was offended. The point is that EA doesn't add controversy into their game. Eating meat is accepted in pretty much every culture and those that don't eat meat have a variety of reasons for not doing so, some their personal morals, others for health reasons, etc. Being offended because someone doesn't agree with them is intolerance. I didn't see any of that here regarding this subject, just comments that EA is a game of sunshine and roses.

On the other hand, they did mention meat in the farming survey! So it is possible that people here have it all wrong! I completely understand the moral issues for some folks, but hey, there are those with moral issues against witches and vampires, but they put those in games! Where I live, we had folks leave a party (not at my house) when my son pulled out his Magic the Gathering cards.

I don't want to get into a discussion of meat...just adding to the discussion of why EA may or may not include meat in a farming pack they may or may not create. :)

If anything, EA might offer meat without there being a hint of where it came from realistically. They have been commended by PETA for both Pets EP. Knowing how comical EA can get with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if our Sims could produce meat unrealistically just to avoid any issues. Or it could just be to where meat comes from the animals in a "behind-the-scenes" type of way without mentioning a slaughter house. Who knows? For all we know, we might only get to milk the cows as the only edible thing the cows will offer. I am curious as to how EA will pull this off to appease both sides.

[crocobaura]

If anything, EA might offer meat without there being a hint of where it came from realistically. They have been commended by PETA for both Pets EP. Knowing how comical EA can get with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if our Sims could produce meat unrealistically just to avoid any issues. Or it could just be to where meat comes from the animals in a "behind-the-scenes" type of way without mentioning a slaughter house. Who knows? For all we know, we might only get to milk the cows as the only edible thing the cows will offer. I am curious as to how EA will pull this off to appease both sides.

Why should there be a slaughterhouse involved? The steaks and turkeys collected from the plants look quite realistic even though they are supposedly vegetarian. They could do the same with the animals, just add the option to collect milk and eggs from them daily. For meat, we coud collect once and then the animal dissapears and we would need to replace it.

[coltraz]

Anyone else picturing that stupid apple tree model with eggs or steaks on its boughs?

[rian90]

If anything, EA might offer meat without there being a hint of where it came from realistically. They have been commended by PETA for both Pets EP. Knowing how comical EA can get with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if our Sims could produce meat unrealistically just to avoid any issues. Or it could just be to where meat comes from the animals in a "behind-the-scenes" type of way without mentioning a slaughter house. Who knows? For all we know, we might only get to milk the cows as the only edible thing the cows will offer. I am curious as to how EA will pull this off to appease both sides.

I have nothing for respect for groups and people who work to protect animals. However, the difference between allowing a sim to beat and torture an animal opposed to a working farm with the ability to process and sell meat is huge. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that EA will not and should not portray the horrors of the modern slaughterhouses and meat farms, which have questionable ethics when it comes to animals. But a family farm where the chicken ends up magically in the stew pot? That is very different.

My grandparents owned a farm and I spent a great deal of time there as a kid. So maybe I have a different view on all this.

As for both sides, again, EA did not worry about the Harry Potter haters (due to religious views) or the homophobes (due to ignorance) or any other particular group.

Remember Harvest Moon? Very fun game. Very good farm simulation. There are loads of others and many turn animals into meat. The trick would be to make it optional.

Personally, I don't care about the meat. LOL I would be happy with eggs, milk and cheese! Wool would be nice too. :)

[simsample]

Okay, I'm having trouble keeping up with two threads now, so to keep my poor senile mind happy let's please post all information and discussion about Seasons here now:
http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=474347&goto=newpost

Cheers! :)