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#21126
30th Aug 2014 at 9:16 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by Tuney
I was reading the player guide and it tells you ways to play : storytellers, experimenters, achievers, creators. |
Looks like they nailed it for the "experimenters" (those who buy the game on a lark, play it for just long enough to be out of the return window, then toss it aside) and "achievers" (those brutes whose minds are simple enough that they are the dog to the game developers' Pavlov).
Quote: Originally posted by lovcat
http://simsvip.com/2014/08/30/the-s...ions-by-origin/ Pre-orders being Cancelled BY ORIGIN. If you pre-ordered you should go check to make sure you're still getting the game. |
Yeah, I cancelled a while back. This is great news for me...but wait, it says "Completed", then "Cancelled".
1/8/2016: New avatar! Pre-censored for EA's approval.
3/19/2015: Teens are too close to YAs. EA needs to either shorten the teens, or add preteens and make YAs look older.
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#21127
30th Aug 2014 at 9:54 AM
Last edited by virgalibabe : 30th Aug 2014 at 10:13 AM.
Posts: 434
Quote: Originally posted by clay4kelly
I'm naïve - is it normal for a AAA company to sell a beta version of a game at such a ridiculous price...? ETA: here is the picture of the code refered to: |
Even the beta tag is a lie. The game is clearly an alpha!
ETA:
Quote: Originally posted by Tuney
I was reading the player guide and it tells you ways to play : storytellers, experimenters, achievers, creators. As my Norwegian grandmother used to say "If you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one". At least I think that's what she said, since she said it in Norwegian and I don't speak Norwegian. |
Achievers were never a thing in The Sims until Sims 3 and it's only because the gaming industry love being copycats and every single freaking game got achievements regardless whether it suited the game or its genre.
You don't have to cater to experimenters. That's they're entire nature, it's to take whatever they get and push the boundaries and do unexpected things to see what happens.
It's the creators and storytellers they need to please. By developing a proper build/buy and CAS with tools that give creators a plethora of options to unleash their skill and creativity.
The storytellers need a proper sandbox which doesn't restrict their game-play. More in-depth interactions between sims, better AI, make it easier to make the sims do what you want instead of more difficult. I can't believe they still haven't figured this out.
ETA2: By that I don't mean make the game stupidly easy though. A player will eventually find out that by doing certain actions they can push for happiness for their sims if that's the desired result and by doing other specific actions they can make their lives absolutely miserable and anything in between.
#21128
30th Aug 2014 at 10:09 AM
Posts: 33
Quote: Originally posted by siletka
Here here, friend. But at the end of the day, the Sims franchise is a product line. And it seems like EA doesn't give a crap whether or not it's good, as long as it brings in money. I'm also diagnosed with depression, and Sims and this board have been a wonderful, positive outlet for me. Some days I find it hard to even want to get out of bed, but knowing there are other people out there that have the same problems and enjoy the same things really helps. Good laughs help, too. Laughter is often the best medicine, even if it's not a cure. Glad to have you around, Flaygor.
Edited to express more feels. |
Just wanted to say I can relate to all of it. I used to be active person both IRL and online before depression struck and almost eradicated my ability to communicate with anyone, even strangers on forums. Lurking on this forum for more than a year, while being excited for TS4 and then being disappointed and confused about it, is part of what helps me to go on and try to regain my previous abilities. It's also important for me, because no one of few friends I have is interested in Sims series. Now I even have courage to post sometimes, which was impossible for me for many months. I used to come here for news, now I come here to laugh, read discussions and probably share my feelings, cause I see I'm not alone in this. It's sad that so many people are plagued by the same disorder, but at least we can help each other feel less isolated and hopeless.
I didn't watch last LP, only read summary on Honeywell's blog, and it turns out I didn't miss much of anything. But there's one moment I didn't get:
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A Sim took a bath in his clothes — it wasn’t clear if that was a bug or a feature? |
I mean, gurus didn't even mention it? Sim took bath in clothes and they pretended it's totally ok, nothing to explain? Well, probably I shouldn't be surprised, they ignored many things in previous LP's anyway...
Quote:
Power Couple: Ever wonder what it’s like to have it all? Jump into the life of the rich and powerful with Ethan and Allyson Poole. Both at the pinnacle of their careers, they’ve perfected most of their skills, earned rich rewards, and are even working on their next aspiration. See what it’s like to have everything and be good at everything. |
Because who needs challenge in a freakin' game, right? It's so boring to try to make your sim's life better
Actually, if I'd buy a game, I would probably find a use for this pre-save. Give 'em a day to enjoy their superiority, then make 'em lose their jobs, then make 'em bankrupt, then totally fuck up their relationship. No, I'm not a sadist. It's just that in their pink-magical-American-dream-gone-weird world it's more of a challenge to create tragedy than happy story. And I like challenge.
...And maybe I'm a bit of sadist too, after all.
#21129
30th Aug 2014 at 10:13 AM
Posts: 52
Quote: Originally posted by lovcat
http://simsvip.com/2014/08/30/the-s...ions-by-origin/ Pre-orders being Cancelled BY ORIGIN. If you pre-ordered you should go check to make sure you're still getting the game. Maybe EA isn't that bad after all. They're doing a good deed cancelling pre-orders for a broken game. Let's just hope those people get refunds. |
I do hope that EA did realize that they are selling an incomplete/broken game, hence the pre-order cancellations. But I have a nagging feeling this is due to the game being downloadable aside from Origin
Maybe they're "improving" the DRM or something...
Somewhere, some sim has found out that there is a shining green diamond hovering above...
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#21130
30th Aug 2014 at 10:28 AM
Posts: 612
Quote: Originally posted by DiAnkhiar
@gwynne you were in my dream today. We were having a conversation while drinking tea. mkay.
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Wow. My dreams are usually a big cluster of weird and stupid (smart) converstations and usually take place somewhere with no sence what so ever.I would like to steal your dreams for a one day.Drinking tea and having a conversation is very classy and fancy.
And yes,I'm not being sarcastic.
#21131
30th Aug 2014 at 10:32 AM
Posts: 190
Quote: Originally posted by lovcat
http://simsvip.com/2014/08/30/the-s...ions-by-origin/ Pre-orders being Cancelled BY ORIGIN. If you pre-ordered you should go check to make sure you're still getting the game. Maybe EA isn't that bad after all. They're doing a good deed cancelling pre-orders for a broken game. Let's just hope those people get refunds. |
I hope this decreases first day sales dramatically.
#21132
30th Aug 2014 at 10:46 AM
Posts: 556
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Quote: Originally posted by Edero
Wow. My dreams are usually a big cluster of weird and stupid (smart) converstations and usually take place somewhere with no sence what so ever.I would like to steal your dreams for a one day.Drinking tea and having a conversation is very classy and fancy. And yes,I'm not being sarcastic. |
Well, maybe you can join our tea party.
#21133
30th Aug 2014 at 10:56 AM
Wow, two days till launch and... nothing. Although, it's been a whole lot of nothing-ness most of the wait anyway.
I feel like this applies to TS4:
That's not to judge anyone's playing style, but rather how TS4 is just so restrictive when it comes to sandboxiness... Bros, bars, texting, hooking up! ...and not much else.
I feel like this applies to TS4:
That's not to judge anyone's playing style, but rather how TS4 is just so restrictive when it comes to sandboxiness... Bros, bars, texting, hooking up! ...and not much else.
#21134
30th Aug 2014 at 11:10 AM
Posts: 1,124
Quote: Originally posted by Lynn Smith
Just wanted to say I can relate to all of it. I used to be active person both IRL and online before depression struck and almost eradicated my ability to communicate with anyone, even strangers on forums. Lurking on this forum for more than a year, while being excited for TS4 and then being disappointed and confused about it, is part of what helps me to go on and try to regain my previous abilities. It's also important for me, because no one of few friends I have is interested in Sims series. Now I even have courage to post sometimes, which was impossible for me for many months. I used to come here for news, now I come here to laugh, read discussions and probably share my feelings, cause I see I'm not alone in this. It's sad that so many people are plagued by the same disorder, but at least we can help each other feel less isolated and hopeless.
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I just wanna give you all an internet hug *hugs* and say that I can relate as well. I've had moderate social anxiety for as long as I can remember, but have always been able to at least keep up the facade of a "normal" life, as long as I took precausions. Last year depression thought it'd be fun to come over and fuck shit up, and.. yeah. I'm trying to cling on to that precious normal life, but it gets harder and harder each day. I escape into my drawing and my writing and my video games, while more and more of my friends get fed up because they can't understand why I'm avoiding them (For context, many of my friends are the "mental illness is not real/is a sign of weakness" sort of people. That kind of mindset is very prevalent in my country). This forum is really great because it gives me a non-triggering way of communicating with people. The anonymous dislike bar feeds right into my paranoia.. this is really stupid but on one occasion it drove me to tears because I was sure that someone here was out to get me.. but I know that that's just me being silly, and other than that I love this place. I know that I can come across as an asshole sometimes. It's a learned behavior that I'm trying to delearn, and I'm genuinely sorry for that.
Quote: Originally posted by exlibrisas
Well, I am a guy and I really don`t mind this. Cool feature! |
“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
Falco - The original Prombat
#21135
30th Aug 2014 at 11:17 AM
Posts: 434
Quote: Originally posted by Shoggoth
Order cancellations by Origin Okay now everyone, you might want to check this out, if you have ordered the game for shits and giggles. This is just so bad it's funny. |
I gave you some +1's overall just for your avatar.
#21136
30th Aug 2014 at 11:27 AM
Posts: 150
Quote: Originally posted by egg1e
I do hope that EA did realize that they are selling an incomplete/broken game, hence the pre-order cancellations. But I have a nagging feeling this is due to the game being downloadable aside from Origin Maybe they're "improving" the DRM or something... |
EA [to be said in between spankings]: "This. Is what. You get. For pirating."
And as always, punish the paying customers
Really though Origin/EA, what the actual fuck? How do you keep screwing up this badly?? Do you WANT to win worst company of the year again?? ??? ?
#21137
30th Aug 2014 at 11:37 AM
Last edited by TotallyJW : 30th Aug 2014 at 12:04 PM.
Posts: 1,124
Quote: Originally posted by Xythenol
EA [to be said in between spankings]: "This. Is what. You get. For pirating." And as always, punish the paying customers |
The thing that these companies (esp. EA) don't understand is that if people feel like they're being treated well and with respect, they're far more willing to throw money at whatever product is being sold. And that a lot of people in general like to support things they care about. The mere existance of Kickstarter and Indigogo is proof of that.
These companies seem have a "guilty until proven otherwise" mindset, which understandably pisses a lot of people off
“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
Falco - The original Prombat
#21138
30th Aug 2014 at 11:38 AM
Posts: 835
Quote: Originally posted by Xythenol
Really though Origin/EA, what the actual fuck? How do you keep screwing up this badly?? Do you WANT to win worst company of the year again?? ??? ? |
Yes. Because even bad publicity gets your name out there...
#21139
30th Aug 2014 at 11:38 AM
Posts: 11,682
Thanks: 9680 in 11 Posts
Quote: Originally posted by siletka
I think the Yibs will stand firm to what they believe is the best entry to the series. |
They can't possibly believe that. Not in real life. They're just doing their publicity partner bit. I guess you have to respect them for their role just like we accept that simgurus have to say what they say.
"You can do refraction by raymarching through the depth buffer" (c. Reddeyfish 2017)
#21140
30th Aug 2014 at 11:49 AM
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I finally watched the tv commercial, and who ever came up with weird being the slogan is actually pleading for help:
Don't Buy this game, it's too weird!
Every mistake the Gurus made? They're trying to tell us not to buy the game. Thank God some of us are listening...
Every mistake the Gurus made? They're trying to tell us not to buy the game. Thank God some of us are listening...
#21141
30th Aug 2014 at 12:01 PM
Posts: 628
The game isn't even 'weird' though, they failed to even get that shit right.
#21142
30th Aug 2014 at 12:06 PM
Posts: 81
Anyone yet pre-downloading the game? How is it going? Any server crashes yet?
I can't yet pre-download it because I'm from Europe. (<- This passive aggressive smiley really sums up my feelings.)
Yeah, the avatar is the result of too much free time while waiting for the delayed pre-download date.
What a "#weird" game!
I can't yet pre-download it because I'm from Europe. (<- This passive aggressive smiley really sums up my feelings.)
Yeah, the avatar is the result of too much free time while waiting for the delayed pre-download date.
What a "#weird" game!
#21143
30th Aug 2014 at 12:09 PM
Posts: 1,124
Shoggoth, I'm with virgalibabe - that avatar is pure gold
“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
Falco - The original Prombat
“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
Falco - The original Prombat
#21144
30th Aug 2014 at 12:11 PM
Last edited by rodrigues : 30th Aug 2014 at 1:54 PM.
Posts: 720
I think the weird thing is genious.
"What is he doing, he is taking a bath in clothes lolololo he's weird"
"Mortimer, use the toilet, stop dropping it down from the qeue! He's so weird!"
"Why is he happy, he is caughting fire! He's so weird!"
"LOL look at Alexander, eating while that corpse is right beside him, that little weirdo"
"Oh the maid is cleaning the house while everybody is dying around her, she's weird lol"
"OMG why is she pissing on her pants, the bathroom is right there lol, weird!"
"He's so weird, look how far he went to enter the house, the door was literally behind him lol"
"They are so funny, they keep going up and down during dinner, those weirdos!"
"What is he doing, he is taking a bath in clothes lolololo he's weird"
"Mortimer, use the toilet, stop dropping it down from the qeue! He's so weird!"
"Why is he happy, he is caughting fire! He's so weird!"
"LOL look at Alexander, eating while that corpse is right beside him, that little weirdo"
"Oh the maid is cleaning the house while everybody is dying around her, she's weird lol"
"OMG why is she pissing on her pants, the bathroom is right there lol, weird!"
"He's so weird, look how far he went to enter the house, the door was literally behind him lol"
"They are so funny, they keep going up and down during dinner, those weirdos!"
#21145
30th Aug 2014 at 12:14 PM
Posts: 81
Quote: Originally posted by rodrigues
I think the weird thing is genious. -snip- |
YES, YES. RIGHT THERE.
They skipped the debugging and just stamped the weird stamp on the game.
"lol so weird, the sim just like sat inside another sim!!!11"
What a "#weird" game!
#21146
30th Aug 2014 at 12:17 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by rodrigues
I think the weird thing is genious. (...) |
#21147
30th Aug 2014 at 12:21 PM
Posts: 1,124
Quote: Originally posted by rodrigues
I think the weird thing is genious. -snop- |
Also, I was image searcing Ryan Vaughan (don't ask) and this was one of the first results. I thought I'd share, it gave me a laugh for sure
“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
Falco - The original Prombat
#21148
30th Aug 2014 at 12:35 PM
Posts: 112
Aaargh! bleach for my brain!!
#21149
30th Aug 2014 at 12:39 PM
Posts: 1,249
Thanks: 46 in 1 Posts
#21150
30th Aug 2014 at 12:41 PM
Posts: 3,334
Thanks: 55 in 1 Posts
Quote: Originally posted by rodrigues
I think the weird thing is genious. "What is he doing, he is taking a bath in clothes lolololo he's weird" "Mortimer, use the toilet, stop dropping it down from the qeue! He's so weird!" "Why is he happy, he is caughting fire! He's so weird!" "LOL look at Alexander, eating while that corpse is right beside him, that little weirdo" "Oh the maid is cleaning the house while everybody is dying around her, she's weird lol" "OMG why is she going her pants, the bathroom is right there lol, weird!" "He's so weird, look how far he went to enter the house, the door was literally behind him lol" "They are so funny, they keep going up and down during dinner, those weirdos!" |
After watching the livestreams I became very confused about what was a glitch and what was a feature. I'm just sad that the sims seem to acknowledge each other and the events around them even less than Sims 3. The Sims 4 sims might even make the Sims 3 sims look like paragons of empathy.
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