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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 04:59 PM #76
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So, I see no reason for you to apologize for anything... <snip>


Hear hear, to the two paragraphs that start there, iCad! *applauds*

(I'm sorry - I have nothing to add to keep this strictly OT, but I needed to respond with more than a click to the agree button.)
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 10:50 PM #77
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@ >> Ella in wonderland >>Give me a break here Please ! Let children be children, why on earth would you want a child ( girl ) looking curvy? A child is a child and a thirteen year old is just that a "Teen" I do not think it is unrealistic for a child to look like a child the way Maxis have it in the game.

Sorry I may sound rude here, but you wanting a child to look curvy is a bit unrealistic to me. I can see a child being or getting fat as the game have it but "Not Curvy" And if truth be told yes you do make yourself look like what you said in your very own post above a pervert.

I do not care if anyone Agree or not Agree that is your call. But sometime people need to heard the honest truth. A child ( girl ) being Curvy what will be next ?


I had curves at 13. More than some girls in my school have now. And alot of girls I knew also had little curves at that time. My baby cousin is 10, we always tease her because she has two mosquito bites :p. Does that mean the "honest truth" is she doesn't look like child? Boobs don't make children look like adults. They look like children with boobs. To think that some curves will magically make a child look adult seems more pervy to me than realizing that alot of children do have them, because what normal adult would look at a preteen, at their young baby face, and think the kid looks like an adult just because they have curves? And to say it's unrealistic is just false. Some people like a little extra diversity and realism in their games. Though I don't really mind not having a preteen like stage, I certaintly don't think the OP is "pervy" for wanting it.
Old 15th Nov 2012, 01:29 PM #78
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PEOPLE,
TO MAKE PRETEENS IN SISM 2,HACK THE CHILDREN TO ACT LIKE TEENS,GIVE THEM BIG BOOBED CLOTHES AND TEEN MAKEUP AND CUTE HAIRSTYLES AND YOU`RE READY! just type in google sims 2 hacked kids and find some videos.Some of them look like preteens
Old 15th Nov 2012, 01:39 PM #79
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PEOPLE,
TO MAKE PRETEENS IN SISM 2,HACK THE CHILDREN TO ACT LIKE TEENS,GIVE THEM BIG BOOBED CLOTHES AND TEEN MAKEUP AND CUTE HAIRSTYLES AND YOU`RE READY! just type in google sims 2 hacked kids and find some videos.Some of them look like preteens


Ok, I think you've gone too far with the 'GIVE THEM BIG BOOBED CLOTHES'. If that actually happened, I think all preteens would look like tortured children forced to participate in a beauty contest, with breast jobs. No, a preteen is still considered to be a child, but their body becomes somewhat more defined, males become a bit more muscular with some change in voice, females a bit more curvier with a change in voice too, but not to the extent of 'bodybuilders' or 'supermodels'.

IRL, this when usually the menstrual cycle form females start, and where males get an increase in their sex-drive (if that's what its called). Of curse, we can't have those in the game (unless with mods\) due to the fact it is a sensitive subject. Bear in mind that little children also play this game and I am sure their parents would not want them to learn about these things at such an early age.
Old 15th Nov 2012, 01:46 PM #80
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ALL that said, you know what would be really cool? It would be really cool if there could be a physical transition somewhere in the teen age range. Like, children would age up to a young teen body shape and then maybe at the end of the first week would "pop" into the older teen body shape currently used for the entire stretch of teenhood. Kind of like pregnancy pops. Girls would get curvier, boys would maybe get more muscular or something.

In theory, it'd be easy to add the necessary morphs to teen meshes, I think. I've gotten pretty good at adding pregnancy morphs to adult and teen meshes, myself. The snag would be programming the transition, which I have NO idea how to do, if it could be done at all. Maybe some programming could be hijacked from the programming that governs pregnancy pops, which is based on tokens, I believe, but I don't know. But it'd be cool! And maybe something similar could be done to make adult bodies look a little more middle-aged at some point in the adult life stage, too.

You'd link it to the days left counter - we know you can do that because Jase did it for Inteen. You could also perhaps use the height modifier. It'd be a big hack though and likely conflict with Inteen.

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Old 15th Nov 2012, 08:07 PM #81
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I wish there were more life stages. Like in a Sims series I watch on Youtube, Alyssa's son Josh turned 5 so in that episode he was a child instead of a toddler now. He looked more like a 5th grader than a 5-year-old.

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Old 15th Nov 2012, 11:18 PM #82
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The stretchskeleton cheat is a bit nice. I tend to use it at about 0.8-9 on a toddler for 1 year, regular toddler for 2-3 years, 1.1 on toddler for 4 years, then 0.85 for child as 5-6 years, perhaps 0.9 for 7 years, regular child for 8-11, 1.1-1.15 on child for 11-12-13. I think the teens look more like 14/15-18/19 years old, so the 13-14 years is a bit shady whether I use a scaled-down teen or a scaled-up child.

For storytelling/pictures I also use some handy deco babies for newborn, and tend to use the infants for a more mobile age at around 5 to 12 months.

I do wish there was a pre-teen age (10-13 years) and an age between toddler and child (4-7 years), and perhaps an age between infant and toddler (around 1 year)
Old 16th Nov 2012, 05:52 AM #83
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It'd be a big hack though and likely conflict with Inteen.


As if that is hard :P

Seriously, though, a big hack - anything involving new body shapes would require new clothes for the shape. The reason why I don't use Warlok's shapes - besides the fact that only the females are "shaped". Nothing half-way like this has ever appealed to me. Not to mention the reasons why it is half-way like that.

If clothes can be made to fit without actual re-meshing, this would not be as impractical, though. Those that made clothing would know - is it possible to use the same meshes for say a tween and a teen?

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Old 16th Nov 2012, 06:46 AM #84
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Those that made clothing would know - is it possible to use the same meshes for say a tween and a teen?


The necks (not to mention the animations) wouldn't line up if you took an Exchange tween mesh and stuck it on a teen's body. Too short as well. At least, that's what I think you're asking here. Ignore me if I'm wrong.

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Old 16th Nov 2012, 10:00 PM #85
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Seriously, though, a big hack - anything involving new body shapes would require new clothes for the shape. The reason why I don't use Warlok's shapes - besides the fact that only the females are "shaped". Nothing half-way like this has ever appealed to me. Not to mention the reasons why it is half-way like that.

If clothes can be made to fit without actual re-meshing, this would not be as impractical, though. Those that made clothing would know - is it possible to use the same meshes for say a tween and a teen?

Well, that's why I mentioned the stretch skeleton cheat - you could get some of the 'growing' to work with that. Wouldn't require new meshes though your kids would start out a little dumpy and get more slender with age. It would depend how much you used it. At 50% height, the fat effect is very noticeable but at 85% much less so.

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Old 17th Nov 2012, 06:26 AM #86
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If the skeleton dimensions can be set in a BHAV, the hack could be made, and I believe it wouldn't even be that big. Well, depends on how many new groups you'd want.
But my -admittedly quick - search through Simantics variables (person data, object definition, etc.) didn't turn anything having to do with the body length/height.
Is there a cheat object containing the interaction to stretch skeleton?

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Old 17th Nov 2012, 09:56 AM #87
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Tutorial-of-sorts: Stretching a Skeleton

In-game cheat is "StretchSkeleton [x]" where [x] is the value you want a sim to get. 1 is the default (which in the post I linked to they defaulted to 5'9" for young adults to elders).

To change a sim's height in SimPE, it needs to be done from within the character's file.
Old 17th Nov 2012, 06:59 PM #88
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Ok, I think you've gone too far with the 'GIVE THEM BIG BOOBED CLOTHES'. If that actually happened, I think all preteens would look like tortured children forced to participate in a beauty contest, with breast jobs. No, a preteen is still considered to be a child, but their body becomes somewhat more defined, males become a bit more muscular with some change in voice, females a bit more curvier with a change in voice too, but not to the extent of 'bodybuilders' or 'supermodels'.

IRL, this when usually the menstrual cycle form females start, and where males get an increase in their sex-drive (if that's what its called). Of curse, we can't have those in the game (unless with mods\) due to the fact it is a sensitive subject. Bear in mind that little children also play this game and I am sure their parents would not want them to learn about these things at such an early age.


Agreed with the big-boobed ... anything. Most preteen females do NOT have big boobs. No matter what you do to make a child look older, most normal, slightly looser-fitting clothes should be fine enough. My 12-year old daughter certainly didn't run around provocatively dressed! Stretchskeleton should do the trick if this age group is truly a concern, IMO.

Secondly ... there's a bit of a "squick" factor with hacking a child to act like a teen for me. OK ... a HUGE "squick' factor. The game still considers them children, right? Do they still act like children in-game? The thought of a child-teen trying to make out with an adult is really crossing the line for me. Or am I mistaken?

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Secondly ... there's a bit of a "squick" factor with hacking a child to act like a teen for me. OK ... a HUGE "squick' factor. The game still considers them children, right? Do they still act like children in-game? The thought of a child-teen trying to make out with an adult is really crossing the line for me. Or am I mistaken?


If a pre-teen sim is a child sim with a different body mesh to make them look a bit older then they still act like children, yes. They wouldn't be hacked to act like a teen, that's pretty much the point, as I understand it - people want a life stage where children look more like pre-teens/younger teens but don't have access to teenage interactions like the romantic interactions, getting jobs, driving etc. So really it's "anti-squick" as they look like young teens but don't interact romantically etc, unlike Maxis teens.

In my game I consider teen sims to be aged 12 - 20, so I have a slight squick factor as some of the 12-year olds do interact romantically with older teens and adults. They're not humans though, they're sims, to it doesn't really bother me. A 12 year old human kissing a 20-something year old human - wrong. A 12 yearday old sim kissing a 20-something year old sim - I'm OK with that.
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