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scottiedoag, glad you're keeping Moonbeam alive now and away from those weird herbs.
I tend to do things the hard way ... plop an easel in the lot and have my Sims paint as they've never painted before. No wonder they hate me.
And I see that the judges like porch railings. I tried putting some on the current Elliott house, but they now look really "off" to me. I had the white picket fence before I did the porch overhang, but it just doesn't work with the columns against the house, and I'm trying to stay a little traditional and still coordinate with the gazebo and garden fence. I do hope I can fix that when I get back. There must be SOME fence or trick I can use with those sorta-Ionic columns, though I've already spent an hour or two trying several variations already. Perhaps a break from the game for a few days will bring a fresh perspective. But don't be surprised to see a flurry of re-takes if I re-do the porch area. Because as you folks know, that will probably mean downgrading or upgrading something else somewhere. It's the nature of the beast.
Maybe some sort of medium or high plantings or hedging just around the back porch in lieu of a fence? Would that work? I think the idea is to have something in the back in case Sims with too much nectar step a little too far over while getting their burgers. And plantings would mesh nicely with the theme of the house.
I'm not as worried about my front porch, and would strongly disagree with judges if they said that a railing was utterly necessary there. It's pretty small, and my OWN real-life front porch doesn't have a railing or fencing. Looking at my real-life neighbors' properties, I see that porches with five steps or fewer very often don't have railings and fencing while porches with five or more steps generally do. My neighbors are starting to wonder why I'm stopping in front of their houses and staring at their front porches (literally staring at them). If I keep doing that, they may call the cops on me!
I'll have to futz around this weekend, if I have time when I get back. But that might really skew the budget. Oh, CC, I miss you so!
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To tie in the outside to the windows but in a similar style, try using a warmer option for the beam panels (e.g. using the way off white rather than white), using smaller pebbles or more irregular stone in the stone sections, and try to think about the sizing of the various windows you have compared to the building in general, aiming for more of a balance, and particularly look at how specific architechtural features are often used. For example, you don't usually see bay windows off to the side like that, they are normally a feature at the front of a house or possibly to the back if they are overlooking a lovely garden, or to let more light into a dark corner. Try keeping just one rather than both, or swap the front arch window for a bay window and use two of those arch windows where the bay windows are. Lastly I think your floor-to-ceiling "plate glass" windows would look much less out of place if you'd actually built them into a sort of conservatory feel, adding one more on the sides of that nook, and changing the wall covering underneath there to match the medium wood.
For the colour scheme inside, I like that you linked it to the windows, but here is where it gets a bit difficult to keep up, because you've used several different window colours, which makes it more difficult to keep a cohesive indoor colour scheme. If you were set on the Storybook windows, I would suggest sticking to a pale colour for the other woodwork, whether that is a creamy yellow, white, or a light wood. This is another reason why the storybook windows are so difficult to match with those dark beams. Picking lighter beams, or skipping the beams entirely and going for a neat, small, bright-coloured brick might help with this.
(General advice/tips follow!)
Disclaimer: Of course, talented builders can make houses look amazing even when not sticking to these rules, and rules are always made to be broken, but like with anything else, it's SO much easier to obtain a nice result when you stick to a tried and true formula. Once you get so good at this that you can do it in your sleep, then it's time to start experimenting, because you'll have an idea of what looks good as a baseline, and you can make it more interesting with tweaks. But generally, following rules to begin with will generally produce nice results with much less frustration, and so they are a useful thing to learn. You can also learn a lot from looking at other people's builds in relation to these rules, especially builds that you love - do they fit the rules, or do they break them, and how?
1. Woodwork.
If you look at houses in real life, often the woodwork is all kept to one colour, in fact it looks strange when it is not. For example in the house I currently live in IRL we have dark wood window frames and doors, but light wood baseboards and floors, which IMO was a poor design choice, and makes it very difficult to match furniture and wall colours to anything. In Sims, you don't have to put up with previous tenants' poor design choices, and can make life easy for yourself Pick one colour for woodwork and roll with that. Use the same colour for all of the window frames, railings, internal doors, wooden staircases, baseboards, and any wooden flooring you use. Note you can often get away with white baseboards no matter the rest of the colouring, but other than this, try to stick with one throughout the house or at the very least one wood colour per floor.
2. Architectural features.
If you're going to add something distinctive like a particular column style, a fireplace, a tower, a balcony style or a window, find out what that style is called and do a simple google image check of how this is usually used and placed within real buildings. You don't have to copy, but you should bear in mind norms, as people will be expecting to see things in certain places and it can look strange when something seems out of place.
3. Colour schemes.
You do not have to do a whole house colour scheme but it can seriously bring together a build when you do with a real "wow" factor. (You can always "messy" it up later.) If you really hate the idea of whole-house colour schemes, firstly know that it's totally possible to have different rooms look and feel different even with a cohesive colour scheme. If you're still put off, try just exempting the bedrooms (and any other rooms "owned" by a single sim) from the scheme, as these are more individual, with the rest cohesive - but if you really hate it - keep any transition areas between rooms, such as hallways, neutral or complementary to all of the rooms, and keep neighbouring rooms complementary too.
4. Know a little about colour theory.
There are two important basic scales, plus the colour wheel: Light to dark (which is hopefully clear), Muted to bold (muted = imagine adding grey and/or white to a colour, so slate blue, dusty pink, beige, whereas bold colours are bright and attention grabbing - red, magenta, lime, mustard, royal blue). The colour wheel is the spectrum of rainbow colours and colour theory says that you should choose monochrome (all the same - e.g. different shades of blue), complementary (colours which are next to each other - e.g. red, orange and yellow or green, blue and purple), or contrasting colours (e.g. red is opposite light blue, yellow is opposite purple). You can find colour wheels easily by googling or pick one up from a home deco store.
To make an interesting colour scheme for a house, you need:
1-2 main colours, which can be muted or bold, light or dark, but not too extreme in any direction (you need some variety).
1-2 neutrals - neutrals are always muted, and are usually light, but you can use black as your second neutral if you want a dramatic touch. Stick to the kinds of tones you'd find in an old black and white or sepia photograph.
1 accent colour which is always bold, or at least is noticeably MORE bold than the other colours.
Remember to keep all of these colours within the parameters of the colour wheel you chose - monochrome, complementary, or contrasting, and make sure that there is some variety in terms of light and dark, muted and bold. Also, remember you have the woodwork colour you picked before to work with too. Note that you don't need exact matches at all times (it can end up looking a bit TOO matchy at this point) but having an idea of a colour scheme being something like "Sky blue, medium blue, white, grey, and sunny yellow" lets you know immediately what you're looking for.
Use your main and neutral colours for walls, floors, metal or painted furniture, and textiles. By combining them in different ways you can get a really different feel to a room. Keep linking rooms like entrances, hallways and storage rooms more neutral, saving the colour for the main rooms. Then use your accent colour for things like textiles, a feature wall, painted or metal furniture, paintings or other wall art, clutter, or items with patterns which are mainly neutral or main-colour with bits of the accent colour in, etc. If you find a colour combination that you absolutely love it can save time to create a collection file where you dump everything you own which has a recolour within the scheme in it, as it can take a while to sift through everything otherwise.
If you are confused by this or interested in learning more in depth this is a GREAT blog post which I use all the time: http://www.heytherehome.com/how-to-...-color-palette/
5. Pattern, texture, and plain colours.
The simple rule is that you need SOME pattern or texture, but too much will overwhelm, so stick to one patterned item in a room from the following: Walls, floor or textiles. IME, too much plain also looks dull. Texture is a useful in-between when plain colour makes something boring but pattern makes it look too busy. To tell the difference: A pattern is busy and contrasting, it might have pictures or just something more abstract or geometric such as stripes or spots or zigzags. Tiles which are all different colours are more of a pattern than a texture. Texture is something like visible edges of uniform tiles or wood boards, or a simple, non-contrasty carpet design. A single coloured carpet is plain, even if the carpet texture is visible.
BTW, a patterned wallpaper, carpet, tile, or piece of art or furniture that you love can be a really great starting point for the colours in your colour scheme.
6. Playability.
We've definitely had the discussion before about playability and required items being based on sims' needs vs real life - there are things that sims need that real people can do without, for example a landline, or a changing table, and there are things which matter in real life but not to sims - for example, curtains on a bathroom, or railings on a staircase. My advice/tip in a contest is to consider both - first sims' needs, as this is fairly easy, (what would drive me mad in play? Can my sims use all of the things I've included for them? What might other playstyles demand?) but secondly from a RL point of view of "If I saw this house listed on a property website [and I'm a person with kids/pets/who likes to invite friends over], would I want to move in there? What would I need or want to change?"
(This got away with me. Sorry if it's too long for the contest thread, let me know and I'll move the general comments to the main board )
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Now that I've been schooled, I guess I can now say, again, I really like my build. I like that each room has it's own 2nd color and I love rugs, even rugs on rugs. :sigh:
This teaches me to say anything.
As a person with a medium size dog and having nice grass- my dog, and the last 2 other dogs I've had, they like to mark around the fence and a main area. I have nice grass in my back yard and also the last house we owned. The last 2 dogs I've had don't dig. My 4 cats do not climb up my long curtains and neither do they make a huge mess- they spend a lot of time outside- like Sim cat cans. I build for playing, not RL so any comments to RL curtains or pets, I know but don't worry about in the game.
*which is what confuses me with feedback on the build- what does it have to do with their wants and my build skill? I can loose the points on decor but the rest... feels weird.
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I'm generally intuitive while building and decorating in a game, and I follow the rules only as part of a challenge.
Gazania, yes, for a contest round, I do it the hard way too - make Sims paint, sew, make bouquets, pottery etc. That was Jo's condition for making craftables not part of the budget. Also, for some craftables I couldn't even find the mod to make them buyable (for example, easel paintings). But I was curious how do people make craftable-heavy lots share-friendly, since houses sims lived in (and used for crafting objects) are not safe to share.
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Bad news: It will be a race against time for me. I hope I can get back, make the corresponding fixes to the Elliott lot. Right now, I made them on the model to make sure that everything went under budget, moved the model to the lot bin and packaged it. I don't want to move the Elliotts since I don't THINK I'll have to do that and with all the pictures and photos in the house, it would be way too easy to miss one like I did with the Newman lot in one version, but am prepared to if necessary. I'll need to retake almost half my pictures, since you'll see the porch on the foundation, front view, the two layout shots, any gazebo shots (possibly, if the railing would show in those), back shot and side view. That's at least eight retakes. I SHOULD be able to do it this weekend, but nothing is etched in stone. Things are just too uncertain right now. But at least I got SOMETHING entered.
I can imagine a whole bunch of anime characters raising their arms and cheering, "Do your best!"
Today, I'll be popping by from time to time, but my flight leaves tomorrow, and I've yet to finish packing. I'll be checking out your entries from my tablet whenever I can when I'm on the road, and in advance, I am 100% certain that every one will be great, even if I'm not able to comment as much. Good luck, all!
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I haven't used craftables in my houses but if I had and wanted to share I'd replace them with cc or link to the cc when uploading.
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They added some African elements to their house: thatched roofs, a bit of traditional painting on the walls, and lights reminding them of the sun in Africa. Since they both love to entertain, they decided on warm, earthy colours, a kitchen close to the back door, a back door close to the lapa (BBQ area) and a lapa close to the swimming pool. Instead of spending money on decorations, they decided to invest more in fun party items, enough seating, enough space to dine and a dance floor.
Party items - the little fire, the bubble blower on the top floor porch and the fruit punch barrel is on the bottom porch.
The BBQ, the bar and the BBQ eating area is in the other building
I think you will find the swimming pool easily
The random object (little house lantern light) : there are two of them on the border edges around the flowers at the front entrance, I noted it in the pic as well.
Phone on the side table at the back door. Two fire alarms, one in the kitchen, one on the back porch (there is a BBQ outside).
Welcome to the Rodney Home! (No CC)
The back of the house. Party item number one, the little fire, can be seen here.
The price
An overview of the lot
The foundation pic
The first floor plan. Kitchen, dining area, TV area (that guest who wants to watch the Wimbledon final or something), Dance floor, small extra half bathrooms for guests, stairs. The walls are padded around the dancing area, taking the neighbours into account.
The second floor: room with a desk and a bookcase; bedroom, bathroom inside.
Floor Plan of the BBQ area:
Sideview from the pool's side
Side view of the lot from the house side
Inside view upstairs
Inside view downstairs
Living and kitchen area from the side
Random object - little house lantern - on the corner of the flowerbeds
The poolside
A (dubious) hedge for some privacy while swimming
The lapa, where the BBQ, bar and BBQ seating area can be found
At night:
And, finally, meet the Rodneys, testing the dance floor!
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Oh yes, cats certainly have no respect for anything and think only about themselves. And that's probably why people like myself love them so much!
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Not only that, but have you tried grooming?! "What do you mean this is the best and the most expensive brush you could find?! I don't care how much it helps with shedding, I hate it, and that's the only thing that matters! Now get it off my precious fur!" So, cat hair being everywhere, it is!
I'm used to my cat jumping everywhere... using her litter box and then placing her precious butt on my belly while giving some kneading work to my neck with the same paws that buried some icky stuff in the litter box few moments ago. She also loves jumping on my dining table and embarrassing me in front of the guests! If you really want to make her stop certain activity or forbid her access to certain areas, you can. Theoretically . For example, there are cat repellent sprays that can be bought at pet-store, or even cheaper solution - double sided duct tape placed on a counter, which can be used until the cat learns that glued surface is extremely unpleasant. I'm not squeamish and don't feel the need to strictly limit her access, because she's a clean, indoor cat and I kinda feel guilty for restricting her freedom (with making her an indoor) anyways. All in all, she has a sweet, docile nature and really doesn't do furniture-wrecking, she has never caused any permanent damage to any of my stuff, so I'm generally really satisfied with her behavior habits.
Essentially, while dealing with cats you have to adjust to their nature and outsmart them. I read some of cat behavior literature, and the most useful tips always turn out to be the ones involving some sort of deception or bribing them with food. I've read this article recently, I don't think I will ever see their purr the same way, manipulative little beasts! :lovestruc
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I get rid of grid lines by clicking on the swatch tool in buy mode - dunno why but it works.
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Upload criteria simply means the build looks realistic (or conversely realistically strange eg a space house) the shape is interesting, the roof looks good, colours are pleasant, has some garden. So no they are not looking for houses to upload, but anyone judging would still use those same basic premises when judging the lots. If that makes sense.
@Sweet Mystre One of the judges did you up some extra notes to see if this would help.
I think it would have looked better if she switched out the beige and brown with a different neutral - perhaps white or light greys because brown is a very blah color in contrast with the more cheerful violet/yellow scheme where white or lighter neutrals would not detract from that. Random teal rug, random yellow/gold patterned rug upstairs also contributes to this disharmony-maybe try bringing it together using a light solid yellow or a lavender from the first floor. Thinking outside the box doesn't always mean an assortment of different colors together, I think she already has her 'outside the box' with the style and shape of her home. The orange and green room is very random and are colors/schemes not really used anywhere else on the house which is another reason why it isn't harmonious, in my opinion. Also green and orange aren't a fitting color scheme, they aren't properly contrasting like yellow/purple, they aren't monochromatic, or analogous - they are not good colors to put together in any scheme - my suggesting is to look at the color wheel for ideas. This would be a helpful site for color scheme ideas going forward (unless she builds for Rhodes, which they are the type to avoid harmonious colors and I wouldn't judge on that, but most homes have a degree of harmony that pulls the interior together, the the quickest way to do that is through choice of colors): https://color.adobe.com
Also regarding the want score of 4, in the judging sheet you said '5' is a wow. I wasn't fully wowed but she met all the wants so I gave her a four. Mostly because the house was for a pets and she put in long curtains and kitty litter in a carpeted room, which I already addressed in my comments.
I said someplace earlier that 5 is a wow. If everything is there but it doesn't make the judge go wow, its a 4. The thought behind that was if some people do something that makes a judge go wow they should get more points. Each judge is allowed to use personal opinion, that is why contests have 3 judges and some hand out wows more easily than others, some will like something some may not.
A car, hot tub or sauna would probably make no different. Lino under your cat box would have done. Again I agree with the judge, I would not want my cats litter box sitting on carpet. That is one of those real touches that need to be thought about as you decorate.
@ Peni Griffin hope you feel better. I thought you had been rather quiet.
@AndrewGloria @MystAngel Thank you. It is hard to be a judge and many contests find it hard to get enough and this is why. I have been a judge a few times now. A judge has to decide who is best, they have to give both good comments and what they hope is helpful criticism. Some judges are scared to hand out criticism for fear of offending. I would please say don't enter a contest if you will be offended by someone saying they think your roof needs work or colours don't go. Is some of it personal taste? Of course it is. These are not professional judges just other simmers doing their best to score and comment. Are some moderators? Quite often. Those of us who look over lots daily in queue will of course bring that into play when judging. But as mentioned above they are broad principles that anybody could use not a magic formula.
All lots with sims in them need sims to be moved out and the lots cleaned in simpe. When its done properly the lot will have a ridiculous low price in the bin which fixes itself on being placed down in the hood. I for one am quite happy to download properly cleaned lots. I see nothing wrong with them.
@scottiedoag The change table does raise hygiene, but not enough. The child continues to go down slowly further and further. So by day three a dirty nappy/diaper puts your toddler totally in the red and crying and while changing them will raise it they will soon be back in the red. A tub is very necessity in a house with a toddler.
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...'Course - you'll be keepin' the bar well stocked
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"Hello" came a gravelly yet gentle voice. Country got up to investigate and was met with the sight of a tall well muscled black haired man. There was something strange about him that Country couldn't figure out but he was soon distracted by the red headed woman just behind the stranger offering him a casserole full of hot food.
"I'm sorry it's only puy lentils with home grown veggies but it's filling!" she smiled handing him the dish.
They discovered that the pair lived in the old mill across the street and were called Muesy and Andre Woosy. All ate their fill (except Andre) and discussed what to do.
The next night they appeared with lanterns and a pile of old boards. They brought plastic wrap and some wood to act as spars and slowly the ground floor was made a bit more habitable. The Rhodes sold their car and bought an old Aga and a fridge. They had enough left to buy some old broken but useable plumbing at the local scrap yard along with some other bits and pieces.
Each night for the next couple of weeks their neighbours would arrive sometimes bringing more supplies sometimes just food but always they would work until just before sun-up when Andre would leave and Muesy would have breakfast with the Rhodes. The night that Andre appeared carrying a dozen blue doors on his back was cause for celebration but, as usual, he worked through the night with superhuman strength and speed.
The next morning Muesy told Ayr and Ine about a house nearby that would suit them as she knew that Ayr was worried about Ine doing well in school under these conditions. Besides there was only enough space for two bedrooms and teenage boys shouldn't be sharing with their mothers.
Ayr and Ine have since moved into a house near the Wilsons and Lamberts and seem to like things the way they are now but Moonbeam and Country are still a little sad but they have their work to keep them busy and they are still trying to scrounge up more materials to keep on fixing up the factory. They even managed to get parts of an old Victorian greenhouse by painting a portrait for the local Laird! (I'm not sure if Laird has an equivalent elsewhere. It's sort of a leader and high heid one in a village.)
I'm not sure this lot is to everyone or even anyone's taste but when I read about the Rhodes it was the first thing that came to my mind and it just refused to go away. I had already been working on the Old Mill factory for my self sim and her man so I decided to build the Rhodes lot across the road. For the idea I had to work I needed to try some recolouring for art for the walls. I ended up also doing a seat and a vase. I would never have tried if not for the competition. I even have some new artwork for the Old Mill!
Here is a pic of the front of the old brewery.
Note old Frank Zappa concert handbill on the right! Apart from the graffitti we also have a Westworld poster and a Sex Pistols concert handbill.
Back of lot
Top down view of Roof showing reclaimed metal sheeting to cover the holes.
Greenhouse and "patio" area with more reclaimed furniture and fencing.
Middle floor showing impossible to photograph bathroom lol Also in view in the main bedroom is a chair "sewn" by Moonbeam. She has enough fabric left to make more (fabric roll in work area).
Again showing another impossible to take pic of bathroom.
Foundation with price. I have one showing only the foundation if it is needed but I thought I'd save on a pic upload.
Now for the rest of the house. I had a hard time taking the pics for some reason so go gentle please bribe bribe (only joking )
After a hard mornings gardening it's time for some meditation then some reading. You can just see their "Don't HATE Meditate" art on the wall to the right. It also shows a little of the reclaimed planks that the Woosy's gave them. Moonbeam and to some extent Country love thrift shops and flea markets so when they saw the snail book ends and the table they had to have them. She raked around and found and old holey curtain with just enough fabric for a table cloth so it came home on that trip too.
They both decided to cook and served up a meal for each other at exactly the same time! The plaque on the wall is a smoke detector and the shelves are yet more evidence of their obsession with secondhand shops.
Time to eat! You can see the plastic wrapped temporary walls in the background along with more evidence of their thrift shop ways including but not limited to the "dining" chairs. As can be seen I also like me a bit of Zappa grin :lovestruc
A patio area that Country built from the planks that were left over that weren't enough for a wall. He has some Clematis growing here along with some Lupins that he liberated on his way past some strangers house, He calls it "ninja gardening" The house owners called it theft! He's also started using his pottery in the garden. This one is awaiting a plant. You can also see the lovely pink flamingo that Moonbeam loves so much. It is one of the few things they have ever disagreed on.
The reclaimed pallets were really useful for the bed here. You can see Andre's handy work with the doors to block up another hole in the building and more of their flea market buys except the elephant. It belonged to Moonbeam's mother and she has taken it with her whereever she has gone. The little blue bear she made when she started sewing as a teenager.
Again pallets were used for the bed. The cover is one that Moonbeam and Country both worked on by unravelling old sweaters etc. It is something that they have had for many years now and it gives them both warmth and comfort. The wall was painted by Country and the curtains were made by Moonbeam from some cheap sari fabric. Just in view are the rugs patchworked from pieces of old worn out jeans.
Country LOVES the reclaimed carved wood panels in the hall that Andre helped him with. He wishes they had found more! This is where you will most often find him either painting or making pots. He feels the art and bright colours around him inspire him even if the still to be repaired windows don't.
Moonbeam and Country doing what they love most!
"Moonbeam?"
"Yes hun?"
"There's a luminous snail in the garden!"
"Have you been making your own herbal tea again Country?!"
Country relaxing on the cinder block bench (I wonder who made that!?) at the end of a hard day. Also in the pic are Muesy and Andre. In game it is night time but I changed it to day in buy mode as, due to his nature, Andre can only visit at night. Here you can see one of Country's pots already planted up we wont ask where he got the plant and also there is their red compost bin complete with smiley face.
And so to bed and an end to my rambling
Sorry for being so wordy. There is just something about this pair. I don't know what it is but there you go.
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I've had my lot and my decorating dragged over everyone else's opinions enough for one day. It's like a long chain of each person ripping my build apart. Thanks for all the help but I think I'm full up. I mean that, I thank you all but Please, Please, stop.
Are we done now? Thanks.
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Wow, scottiedoag - love, love, love. You must provide links to the cc- want! |
I'll see If I can dig them up (I think the pallet bed is 4esf? and most of the artwork is mine) but some of that stuff I've had since sims 2 was a baby let alone a toddler! (Many many computers ago)
Speaking of which Joandsarah77 Boy did I find out about the hygiene! I had two stinky toddlers wailing away, four hungry kids trying to do homework with mum trying to cook and dad still at his first day of work. At least I learned something!
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I'll see If I can dig them up (I think the pallet bed is 4esf? and most of the artwork is mine) but some of that stuff I've had since sims 2 was a baby let alone a toddler! (Many many computers ago) yavannatw is there something in particular you wanted the link to? |
I particularly loved your artwork. I hope you upload them
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I particularly loved your artwork. I hope you upload them |
Wow! I don't know what to say! They really aren't that good. They are just first attempts at recolouring and were blurred etc to make them look more "painted" so the quality probably isn't high enough.
There was one I missed on the stairs but I thought it was a "funny" place to put it.
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