Mod The Sims - WIP Mitchel: version 5.1

Future changes
Eyes & Eyebrows:
-eyebrows will be alot lower and I will refine his eyebrow curve more along with his eyebrow rotation slightly more down.
-give him hooded upper eyelids
- experiment with different set of brows. I want thick yet groomed male brows.any suggestions?
-overall his eyes need a lot of work. I will make his eyes slightly more squinty. The most trouble I'm having is giving him deep set eyes while rotating his eye upwards. I can't seem to master it :/ I might have to rotate his eyes up but bring the outer corner down but then it mess up the almond shape of his eyes

Lips:
-I will make his bottom lip more square and wider
-change lip color
-I'll slightly decrease his upper lip width

Cheeks +Jawline:
- I'll maybe make his jaw slightly wider and I'll define his jaw more
- give slightly more cheekbone curve
-his cheeks seem a bit flat and less 3d looking. However I can't make his cheeks more pronounced without making them look too full . I'll work on it, maybe I'll have to try a different skin tone or use blush?
- make his beard colors more realistic and lighter
-might decrease his head size.

nose
-I want his nose tip to slight come down with his nostrils to flare out. so last more work has to be done on his nose
- his bridge needs to be straighter and more in line with his brows. I might make his bridge ever so slightly wide and increase his nose depth

11th Jun 2012, 08:10 PM	WIP Mitchel: version 5.1 #1
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Hi this sim is currently a WIP, I know he's clearly not finished but I wanted to know what guys think through out the process because sometimes I over tweak. cas: in game: Currently I named him Mitch or Mitchel but that is subject to change. *edit*Before I even posted this , I saw more changes to be made. Feel free to add your cents whenever. I'll update soon with these changes
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11th Jun 2012, 08:27 PM	#2
Prawler Field Researcher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 228 1 Achievements	He looks great. The only thing I can see to tweak is the eyes, they look kinda sleepy while his eyebrows make him look evil, its an odd combination.
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11th Jun 2012, 09:18 PM	#3
Esmeralda Mad Poster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,471 Thanks: 56896 in 113 Posts 30 Achievements View My Journal	Hot-looking guy! I actually think the eyes and eyebrows combination looks fine, it gives him interesting character and I used to know a guy who looked a bit like that. I can't think of anything that needs changing, I like him as is!

11th Jun 2012, 11:42 PM	#4
Prawler Field Researcher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 228 1 Achievements	I agree, but freedom wanted critique, that's all I could think of
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11th Jun 2012, 11:47 PM	#5
piggypeach Instructor Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 510 Thanks: 375 in 5 Posts 8 Achievements View My Journal	On first thought... I had a few suggestions in mind. Then I saw that you have covered all of them in your plans for tweaking. Well... I can't wait to see how he turns out
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12th Jun 2012, 12:15 AM	#6
monca533 Scholar Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,333 Thanks: 20725 in 67 Posts 20 Achievements	Hi Freedom! I totally agree with Esmeralda. I think (just a opinion) the only thing I would tweak a little bit is the nose: I'd make it smaller a smidge. It's just. Otherwise, he looks gorgeous for my taste. :D
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4th Nov 2012, 11:24 PM	Update: feeling particulary Inspired #7
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Sometimes is better to come back later with fresh eyes. And I'm glad I did Changes Made: I made several changes to his entire facial structure and now he looks completely different. I think what missing before to me was detail. I'm especially proud of the level of detail I was able to accomplish with the facial sculpt alone,without any CC or make-up. like his sculpted eye bags for example He is still not finished but I want to know am I going in the right direction? like the changes or revert some back? I did particular heavy work on the eyes as many suggested. better? I need a hairstyle that is jaw length but without a high hair line. does this hair work for him? Future changes - small adjustment to chin size, nose size and face profile -experiment with new skins -I need a bio& traits? any ideas?
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5th Nov 2012, 12:03 PM	update v2 #8
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	I added CC and made some minor sculpt changes. Changes Made -changed skintone , eye contacts,stubble,lipstick -reduced chin height, made head smaller,changed eye color, gave eyelashes,added pores I can take a hint better with changes? edit future changes: - experiment with more cheek bone curve -at first I didn't like the eyes because I thought their pupils were too big , but now they are growing me... what do you think? -adjust the body and eyelashes -anyone know a mod that can remove the upper eyelash texture of males?
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5th Nov 2012, 02:02 PM	#9
heaven Princess of Procrastination Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,182 Thanks: 11585 in 27 Posts 25 Achievements	Freedom, he looks fantastic. I really like all the updates you've done with him. I can't say that I have any suggestions at all.
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5th Nov 2012, 09:36 PM	#10
TheGuySim Forum Resident Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 675 Thanks: 2094 in 26 Posts 10 Achievements	Oh wow! :O His entire face is amazing. I absolutely love your choice of skintone, eyes, lipstick and pores. They all combine together perfectly with his facial structure. To be honest, I do not see a single thing you should change. Brilliant job, Freedom
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6th Nov 2012, 12:36 AM	#11
SimmyRN Scholar Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 11364 in 36 Posts 12 Achievements	I think he looks great! I'd love to see how he looks now without the CC.

6th Nov 2012, 01:59 AM	#12
daluved1 Deducing the Contradictions Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,809 Thanks: 82859 in 147 Posts 39 Achievements View My Journal	Your sim looks absolutely fantastic! Especially in that last picture, he looks almost like a real person.
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6th Nov 2012, 02:23 AM	#13
SeeMyu Scholar Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,363 Thanks: 16423 in 40 Posts 27 Achievements View My Journal	Holy mother... absolutely amazing! Beautiful! The amount of detail you put into this is really stands out! I wouldn't change anything!
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6th Nov 2012, 10:26 AM	#14
Esmeralda Mad Poster Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,471 Thanks: 56896 in 113 Posts 30 Achievements View My Journal	All of the versions of him look great - once again, you've shown that you make some of the most interesting-looking and realistic faces in Simdom. Can't see that anything needs changing or improving here.

6th Nov 2012, 11:18 AM	Quick Update #15
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Thanks Guys its good to know I'm going in the right direction edit 03/24/13 Simmy requested, I added/changed picture to show without any CC at all. would it be useful to include in download thread? Potential Problem- Changes Made: - increased cheek bone curve slightly -increased nose definition. *I'll soon update the post with him with CC and the changes I made to his facial structure and the nose fix Besides the technicalities I feel he is done. Any Traits or Bio characteristics pop out to you guys just by looking at him?
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7th Dec 2012, 06:00 AM	#18
Audrey Scholar Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,355 Thanks: 4521 in 37 Posts 10 Achievements	Gorgeous. I don't download sims usually, but yours is fantastic, so real-looking. I look forward to seeing what custom content you have used.
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6th Nov 2012, 02:24 PM	#16
ameenah.n.y Lab Assistant Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 156	Hm, I do not think that is something you need to worry about too much - the nostril size and shape varies throughout many of the non-default skins. One of the main reasons I have so many NDs is because of this. I think he has an extremely strong sculpt - and that the fact that his nose may look different in another skintone is a minor problem if a problem at all. Plus, if you are keeping to your same upload rules - I know that you personally avoid slider hacks (and while you use custom sliders, you rarely ever require more than a few for a certain sim) - so you're never asking too much of the downloader to begin with. I say stick with the skin you're happy with - because he looks excellent in every version you've posted. Plus, I rely on you to populate my game with gorgeous, realistic sim men and I want them all. :p
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6th Nov 2012, 07:57 PM	Finished #17
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Done! Changes made: -reverted cheekbone curve back from a few updates -decreased nostril definition -I have decided to just go with this skin and use my default eyes instead. Thanks Ammenah you definitely helped me decide Future changes: -I'm going to probably make him an indie rock star...I got the general gist of the bio and traits I'll upload him sometime this week hopefully by Friday, if not Sunday the latest
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7th Dec 2012, 09:50 AM	#19
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	thanks audrey.It means alot coming from a fellow sims creator As your all probably wondering,Whats taking me so long?What is taking me so long is - my game via launcher will not update my game to the current patch. These are technical issues I hope to sort out next week since my Xmas breaks starts then. -I was also waiting to edit his skintone to be more downloader friendly in regards to customization. And with some help, I have managed to do so .However the actual tone /shade of his skin isnt the same in my latest update. I will post pictures and hopefully someone can tell me if it negatively effected his look or not.
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24th Mar 2013, 02:40 PM	Update #20
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Update: OK so I made minor changes and such to head size and body. I also slightly edited,repackaged and fixed the skin problem I was talking about. New problem: Computer monitor problems(Bare with me) I know people are requesting I upload him and I do want to upload him next, I apologize since I don't like to update without having the intentions of implementing changes and feedback in a reasonable time. In the meantime, few posts up I re- took a quick in game photo of him without any CC at all.In your opinion, would it be necessary or helpful to include it in the download thread? I'm working on his bio and planning to to use no CC clothes for him at all. or as much as possible. what do you think of his everyday outfit? His traits are: party animal, commitment issues, virtuoso,evil, charismatic For the bio i'm going for a villain-like character with a nurturing side. any and all opinions and feedback welcome
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24th Mar 2013, 05:25 PM	#21
k2m1too Lab Assistant Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 68 Thanks: 1874 in 12 Posts 8 Achievements	I don't think it would hurt to provide a picture of what he looks like without the custom skin. It's non-default, right? So he won't look like your photos with the skin unless they manually add it back onto him. I found it helpful when looking through other downloads when the uploader showed how the sim would look "out-of-the-box". Either way, he is one fine looking sim. I'm starring at his picture trying to figure out how you got those cheeks/jaw!

24th Mar 2013, 07:17 PM	#22
AmandieLove Test Subject Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 8	I like his outfit, but I would change the shoes to rocker boots. I also heard that packaging with non-EA skin tones can result in glitches, so I would take pictures without the skin tone. That way downloaders would know what to expect. But I love your sim! I love his nose, his hair, his blue eyes, and his incredible detail.

24th Mar 2013, 08:29 PM	#23
FREEDOM_55 Original Poster Forum Resident Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 751 Thanks: 2668 in 12 Posts 9 Achievements	Okay I'll include a picture of what he would like without the skin I also felt a little iffy about the converse, as it looks kind of juvenile on him. But I also dislike the BG rocker boots b/c they make his feet look small :/ i might have to go the CC route to find the right boots
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18th Apr 2013, 06:48 AM	#24
DOLCE_VIDA Lab Assistant Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 64 Thanks: 30 in 3 Posts 2 Achievements	ooooooh la la! He is cute (with cc and without the cc). I second what "ameenah.n.y" said: " I rely on you to populate my game with gorgeous, realistic sim men..." And definitely use some type of rocker/work boot for him. Keep 'em coming...
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