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MTS Bob Ross Paint-Along Night - posted on 4th Sep 2017 at 10:54 PM
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Theorist
#3501 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 5:49 AM
The one thing I hate about psych therapy is when they start with family. My father's family is a casual group of devils compared to my mother's family which are a staunch, holier-than-thou army of angels and when she read the dynamic, she noted it as a point of contention.

Then, there's the blood draw. I'm fine with a maximum of 3 small vials, but any more or any larger and I may need to be wheeled out in a wheelchair. I have anemia so I can't donate blood because I need my blood.

I had a dream of Dana Carvey escorting me to the phlebotomist, only to carry me out of the office and to the car in the cliche bride-carried-over-the-threshold style. They took quite a bit of blood.

I'm just glad I don't have appointments until the 25th.

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Top Secret Researcher
#3502 Old 17th Sep 2017 at 5:17 PM
Shopping at Kohl's is such a experience.

The store is completely decked out for Christmas. Today is Sept 17th. Next to all the Christmas trees, decor and candles is the Halloween stuff. I digress.

I found what I was looking for ( pj bottoms for those that really want to know) and head off to the register. I finally get my turn and the pestering begins. Cashier asks me if I have a Kohl's charge. I tell her no. She tells me that it is a real deal. I tell her that the crazy interest rate on a Kohl's credit card is no deal. The current rate is 24.99%. She tells me that I can use my debit card to pay for purchases. Again, I tell her no thanks.

She then starts with me about how if I sign up, they will send me coupons via snail mail, email, over a cell phone. I tell her no, again. She then asks why I wouldn't want coupons. I tell her that I'm hardly in the store due to all the harassment over credit cards. She ignores me and continues to babble about how she saved some dude lots of money when he had to buy a suit. Clearly she wasn't willing to take no for a answer, so I opted to say nothing and wait for my receipt.

I get it. Stores require employees to ask customers about credit cards. Interest on credit cards is easy profit for any business, however, there is a fine line and Kohl's always crosses that line. Then there is the crazy Kohl's cash trap. Spend X amount of money, get X amount back. There are people that spend literally hundreds of dollars in that store and think get $50.00 back is saving them something. They brag about this nonsense all over the place about how they got 'free stuff' at Kohl's. No people! Look how much you had to spend to get that so-called 'free stuff'.

People like to get all up in my grill about shopping on Amazon. I go on Amazon my trusty gift card that odds are I purchased that day, buy whatever it is that I want and my stuff is delivered 2 days later. There is no 20 questions, bugging me about credit cards and trying to convince me that I will get something if I spend way more than I intended. I hate clothes shopping to begin with, so ordering online isn't going to work for me as I don't feel like dealing with returns and all that other junk, but there has got to be a better place than Kohl's.

There's no rest for the wicked
Mad Poster
#3503 Old 17th Sep 2017 at 8:34 PM
Less than one month after I bought my crappy computer, it quit working. The online seller (starts with an A and ends with an N) refused to take it back. So, I had to take it a store in town. Three days and 100 dollars later it was working. When I called to check on it, the guy starts on and on about the virus scan stuff they sell. It really did sound like a good deal - but he wouldn't shut up. When I went to pick up the computer, the first words out of his mouth were about the virus program. It was all I could do to keep quiet. I really was thinking about it, because, as I said, it was a good deal.

But, nope. You push me and I'm done. I don't like that at all.

"Death cannot stop true love; all it can do is delay it for awhile."
Top Secret Researcher
#3504 Old 17th Sep 2017 at 8:56 PM
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Originally Posted by smorbie1
Less than one month after I bought my crappy computer, it quit working. The online seller (starts with an A and ends with an N) refused to take it back. So, I had to take it a store in town. Three days and 100 dollars later it was working. When I called to check on it, the guy starts on and on about the virus scan stuff they sell. It really did sound like a good deal - but he wouldn't shut up. When I went to pick up the computer, the first words out of his mouth were about the virus program. It was all I could do to keep quiet. I really was thinking about it, because, as I said, it was a good deal.

But, nope. You push me and I'm done. I don't like that at all.


If I was in the mood to be out longer than we were, I would have walked. Since I didn't feel like going out at all, I dealt with it.

It is not uncommon for me to give a 'warning' if they ask more than twice. I let them repeat their sales pitch, then I respond with something along the lines of "Ask me one more time and I'm leaving empty-handed." I don't make a scene or even use a angry tone of voice. It is very matter of fact with my body facing the door as I say it. I've done the same with people that push extended warranties. A person from Sears argued with me about a extended warranty for a $10.00 calculator once. Needless to say, that went over like a fart in a spacesuit.

When I go back to Kohl's, whenever that will be, it is pretty much a guarantee that any peddling of credit cards will be shot down much sooner than it was today. What I really need to do is find a new clothes store to go to. We have a Target, but I only give them money when I have to and Walmart never sees me. Dropping a sewing machine on a customer's leg doesn't make for good business, nor does selling me anti-virus software that is over 3 years old while declaring that it is still good. They gave me a gift card plus a full refund for that SNAFU that should have never happened.

There's no rest for the wicked
Inventor
#3505 Old 18th Sep 2017 at 3:57 AM
Yeeesh. Not sure where you're at GC, but having a single specific person in customer service asking more than twice (ESPECIALLY if you've already clearly said "no"/"not interested"), and within the same conversation no less, even with the company pushing them to get more people signed up, is way over the line. And this is coming from someone who used to work in customer service up until about two or so years ago!

At least in smorbie's case it might be blamed a bit on not realizing that they already launched the same sales pitch at the same person (when you have to handle so many customers in a single day, they really do start to blur together).

Plus, having worked in that field, I can honestly say that there are a lot of people that suck at reading stuff like body language, to the point where they think that not cutting them off and telling them "no." straight out is the same as being interested. When really, the customer they were bothering was probably just waiting for them to stop talking long enough to politely tell them no without cutting them off, or completely tuning them out.
Unfortunately, the hiring process for customer service, especially sales, seems to emphasize "friendly" and "outgoing" over all other traits, meaning that you end up with a bunch of sales people that have no listening skills and a tendancy to not shut up being told by the company that customers only THINK they know what they want, and that it's the salesperson's job to help them get "what they REALLY want but didn't know it."

As you might be able to tell, I tended to stick to "support" positions like stock when I was stuck in customer service jobs, and was more than happy to get out of those for other avenues.
Top Secret Researcher
#3506 Old 18th Sep 2017 at 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anothereyjana
Yeeesh. Not sure where you're at GC, but having a single specific person in customer service asking more than twice (ESPECIALLY if you've already clearly said "no"/"not interested"), and within the same conversation no less, even with the company pushing them to get more people signed up, is way over the line. And this is coming from someone who used to work in customer service up until about two or so years ago!

At least in smorbie's case it might be blamed a bit on not realizing that they already launched the same sales pitch at the same person (when you have to handle so many customers in a single day, they really do start to blur together).

Plus, having worked in that field, I can honestly say that there are a lot of people that suck at reading stuff like body language, to the point where they think that not cutting them off and telling them "no." straight out is the same as being interested. When really, the customer they were bothering was probably just waiting for them to stop talking long enough to politely tell them no without cutting them off, or completely tuning them out.
Unfortunately, the hiring process for customer service, especially sales, seems to emphasize "friendly" and "outgoing" over all other traits, meaning that you end up with a bunch of sales people that have no listening skills and a tendancy to not shut up being told by the company that customers only THINK they know what they want, and that it's the salesperson's job to help them get "what they REALLY want but didn't know it."

As you might be able to tell, I tended to stick to "support" positions like stock when I was stuck in customer service jobs, and was more than happy to get out of those for other avenues.


I don't like to use a broad brush and say all employees at Kohl's behave that way as that isn't true. There are some that will ask once and if they are told no, they will drop it. There are others that work later in the day that don't ask at all. Yesterday I happened to get one that didn't want to be told no.

I contacted the corporate office of Kohl's last summer for this very issue. I basically ended up talking to a drone that said that they teach their employees to talk to customers that way.

Once upon a time I worked a job that was commission based. If you didn't push enough sales, there was endless threats of being fired. I ended up being fired because I refused to allow a customer to cram a cockatiel into a cage that was made for a parakeet. Today that same business is down to one store and has to peddle puppy mill animals in order to makes ends meet. I thought their behavior was disgusting before, I couldn't be paid enough to shop there for anything today.

I find the whole thing really strange. In a day and age where brick and mortar stores are constantly complaining about how shopping online is putting them out of business, one would think they'd chill with the bully tactics to bring more business through the door. Instead they do the opposite. I've never been one to claim to understand corporate thinking and this is certainly one of those times.

There's no rest for the wicked
Lab Assistant
#3507 Old 19th Sep 2017 at 8:14 AM
Ugnhh... So this game is an antique that is not supported by the Axis powers; the fixers who made hacks are no longer with us; the hack fixes don't work and documentation is spread across a bunch of ancient forum threads; and like an idiot with Alzheimer's I keep going back for more gluttony punishment. The folks who are still around are very helpful but that doesn't help when the programs themselves are so befuggered that the fixes need fixes. Why do I continue to do this when I could actually be playing[/] a game, feeding my vidiocy, and having [i]fun. Well.... I've about had it tonight. I'm gonna play M&B Warband and try to forget about Sims2 for now.

Kidney stones are never round pebbles... they are more like jagged stalactites.
Mad Poster
#3508 Old 19th Sep 2017 at 1:18 PM
Sugarplum, what issue are you having? Have you asked in the sims 2 help forum? My experience has been that the people there bend over backwards to help.

"Death cannot stop true love; all it can do is delay it for awhile."
Lab Assistant
#3509 Old 19th Sep 2017 at 6:28 PM
Yeah, I have an ongoing thread but I think they've been busy elsewhere. Problem is Clean Installer (coders for it are no longer with us -gone yrs ago). Program malfunctions/yields errors. I'm going to say f*&k it... I've uninstalled Clean Installer and I'll need to do registry surgery to remove it's tendrils Then I can use the default game installer and just deal with it's cumbersome DBPF naming scheme gobbledigook. I go around them. It's been my mantra for life. Thx for asking though & wish you happy sunshine! Cheers!

Kidney stones are never round pebbles... they are more like jagged stalactites.
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