I left in my tourists and wish I hadn't-there are far too many of them! They turn up at my mainland stores and clog up Phae's phone book and main land sims end up knowing them when that should not be easy to do at all. If I wasn't such a huge softie I would go on a killing spree. *grumble*

I have one of those memory foam beds. I can't tell you how much I praise the day we bought it.

<sympathy>


They're all separated out into different folders - all the townies and NPCs are. Tourists get made on hood creation, vacation locals get made when you install a BV sub-hood into your neighbourhood. What's happening is the game is just copying folders.

I know this for sure because I tested it and poked at it with SimPE - many times. I can show you my working if you like.

If the wiki says otherwise, it's wrong. Isn't the first time either.

I don't understand why the Wiki is wrong? The tourists and locals do come with BV - they are always the exact same Sims? After I sent most of those teens to Uni at least three times, I am sure they are who they are I actually put them back once in order to send them to Uni again.

Jo - I hope they buy from the owned businesses

Interesting... will hafta have a look at this with SimPE. Still a bit confused.

Yes, they come with BV but they are created at different points and from different sources (folders). JDacapo was saying they were in the same folder - they aren't.

I don't think I said they were in the same folder - I was saying I wanted the stealth hood without the Travelers but with the tourists.

Both the Travellers and the tourists are in V001 (Exotic Destinations) and are added when a neighbourhood is created; I don't think I've ever seen a version without the Travellers but with the tourists. Tarlia's template has the Travellers and no tourists, and Jawusa's is completely empty.

If you want the tourists, I'd use the Maxis version of V001 and then either place the Travellers onto an empty lot and ignore them, turn them into townies, or have them provide ghosts for a town cemetery.

The vacation locals are in the templates for each vacation 'hood and are added when the vacation destinations are added (A001, M001, T001).

Or you could turn the Travellers into tourists themselves!

Maybe... though I might just go ahead and make my own Tourists with the randomizer. Heck, I wonder how easy it would be to customize Exotic Destinations...

Edit:
Whoa. I looked at the default Exotic Locations - it looks like a total mess. Lots of relationships between known and unknown sims, and there seem to be two unknown sims in the Traveler family. WTF is up with that? Or is it just the one on my computer? I think Exotic Locations may be all kinds of wonky - just like the hoods that come with the base game.

Which is why empty templates are very good for those locations. They only generate those that are needed, not the whole shootin' match of Maxis mess..

In the unfixed versions of the uni subhoods, some Sims are being flagged as in love with another Sim they've never met before (and it's non-reciprocal too). How they managed to do that I'm not sure.

Like Stella Terrano, but it's not as bad as Frances J. Worthington III being Jasmine Rai's father.

How the hell do you mess that up?

I'd like some tall indoor trash cans. Like a proper kitchen garbage can, or the kind you'd find in a school.

It was suggested more than once in this thread that sims shouldn't drop newspaper if their next interaction is with the same paper. I've made the mod that lets sims hold the paper between actions. And the same for the phone handset that sims used to put back on base station after every call. As a bonus, cell phone interactions don't disappear on sims, if they are already talking, so we can queue up next call (bugged me as hell).

Any good custom stealth hoods out there with some custom made townie or bin sims?

@gummilutt, you have exceeded your PM limit, so let me thank you for testing here in short :lovestruc

Oh sorry! Thanks for letting me know you got the PM Stupid PM limit argh *goes to clean for what feels like the fiftieth time this year*

I hate it when Sims finish drinking juice from the Fruit Punch Barrel they throw the cups all over the floor, instead of putting them in a trash can. When the cups are placed on the floor only the active Sim(s) can pick them up (not even the maid) and they have to discard them one by one. I think this is absurd which is why I don't like using it. It would be nice if the cups just disappeared after the Sim finished drinking their punch.

A grid for placement of neighborhood decorations (probably about 1/4 a neighborhood tile would be good). It's a real pain to line things up perfectly when they don't snap to anything the way objects on a lot do...

I'm always forgetting to give my sims their Freetime perks. It would be nice to have some kind of reminder when when they earn one. OFB notifies me when my business owner earns a new perk. Why can't Freetime do that too?

Criquette has a grid terrain replacement. Here

ahem...they get perks in freetime???

I'm sorry if I'm getting this wrong and the change is so minuscule that I can't see it, but I think backrubs don't increase the comfort motive. I would've thought it would, so it'd be nice to see.

Well, this might be kind of silly, but maybe the change is dependent on learning Physiology or the sim's body skill; the better the body skill of the masseuse, the higher the increase in comfort. Maybe it could also take relationship into account (I don't know, shouldn't it be more relaxing with someone you're comfortable with?). I know it doesn't make much sense but I'm not sure what other traits in-game would work. TS2 doesn't have a massage or wellness skill, so I'm going for reflexology or physiotherapy skills under either Physiology or body.

I find it odd for sims to not gain any actual comfort from backrubs, especially for pregnant sims.

@Zarathustra aUserName above found a grid.