Helloooo fellow ToTer's. Yes it has been a while since posting. But I have always been lurking in here. Wow , there are some great ideas going, some I may have to look into using myself. Anyway just thought I would let you know, I have not given up, but by crikey it is a painful progress. My generation 5 have now taken their new places in the roman era. I have updated my emperor and patrician families, but have yet to post updates for my plebeian and slave families.

Happy Simming

My computer, or whatever virus attacked it more specifically, is EVIL! I was using it to fix issues with our wireless printer (which got working just in time for Mom to use it to print something she needed to take to a Drs appt). I closed the computer, which put it to sleep, and took it back to my room. Approximately 15-20 minutes later I opened it up to find it had shut down, then IT WOULDN'T RESTART! I had to reformat to get it working. AND I HADN'T BACKED UP MY TOT TO MY EXTERNAL SINCE MY LAST PLAY! So I've lost most of my play this round. I'm pretty sure the last backup on the external is saved during House #1 (Marroquin). But I was on House #8 and near the end of it too. I'm pretty sure I was about halfway through the round! This really really sucks! And until I figure out what Mom did with my AL disc (she installed it when one of my friends/sister had the discs in the living room. Haven't yet seen her play though so I don't know why she did), I can't reinstall sims yet to find out. That and I don't have the time just at the moment. I have no words to describe how I feel right now. ~VP

You only lost one round, feel lucky! When that happened to me I was 2 or 3 generations into the challenge and lost it all. I know I'm not the only one.

Still, that totally sucks. I'm sorry your computer freaked out on you.

And now I'm seriously considering restarting the whole thing. Mostly b/c I see this new install of the game as a way to clear out my massive downloads folder (though I did manage to have a copy of that backed up, minus a few newer downloads) and I really want to change the way I've been playing it, with a few less of my rule edits and more like the original rules. That and I want to change up the way I was playing my rounds (was going to change it up once I hit the Romans anyway). But I'm still keeping it as my crash landed aliens. I love my colored skins way to much to abandon them. But I might make a eugenic set, which will require me finding a bunch of colors, or slightly editing Astiee's skintones to make some extra colors (already did that once. The yellow, white and orange tones were made by me off of Astiee's colors. Which is why I can't share that particular file. Astiee forbids altering her skintones then sharing them.) I should get back to my re-install now instead of dreaming... ~VP

Sorry to hear about your computer issues. If you feel it would be better to restart go ahead, sometimes starting fresh often gives you more inspiration. I really love how unique your challenge is in how all your sims are aliens.

Speaking of my own challenge I'm really regretting how few blonde/red head sims I started with. I started with a single blond couple and one redhead who was coupled with a dark haired sim. The blonde ones have lots of children but all except two of the redhead's children died before they reached adulthood. Since sim genetics require a sim to have two red/blond genes before they will show one of those hair colors I'm having massive issues getting these colors to show on my sims. To get as many recessive genes showing I partnered both the children with the red gene with blond sims.

The problem? The blond sim of one couple died and the red from the other is pretty much infertile. Seriously, whenever i'm not trying to knock her up, she and her partner are at it constantly thanks to ACR with the odds put up to like 100% try for baby, but no baby. Five days and she gets knocked up on the last day. Thankfully she finally gave me a redheaded daughter. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to rely on cas sims for genetic diversity.

EDIT:
I was just wondering some things about whether a sustainable population can be reached. How close a relation can a sim marry? Are those of you in the roman era and beyond able to find spouses easily without cas sims? Is it possible to have a sustainable without the roman cas sims or are they necessary?

EDIT AGAIN:
Just as I was starting to fear overpopulation, the whole of my favorite family, save the two toddlers got wiped out in a fire. I shall see if I can get these two to survive the winter (2.5 seasons left) alone. However I gave up, the child could feed the tot pet food but not himself so I moved in their eldest aunt (and only gen 2 left from that family) back in with her two children, aging them all up a bit to make up for the time. 1 adult, 2 kiddies and 2 tots, not a fun house to play.

Last edited by lbsgirl24 : 25th May 2013 at 11:25 AM.

I found Gen3 has much more versatility in colouring and with Gen4 I'm getting a lot more genes yanked down from oblivion that I haven't seen since Gen1. Also in regards to a sustainable population Gen3 was tricky but my Gen4 has so far been incredibly easy - though I do have a lot of sims XD over 100 last count and that's down after the death rounds 2 rounds ago. I'm not sure of all the relationships that can be matched up, but I've had no problems with a sim and her grandfather's brother (oh gawd it sounds so nasty putting it in here! XD) and second cousins never raises so much as a blip.

I wouldn't stress about overpopulation; since entering the Roman era I had one round where more died than were born and before I knew it half my population had disappeared - sims die easy >.< breed breed breed! Worst case scenario you have to bop a few on the head yourself. Going into the Dark Ages with sickness and Viking strife I've turned my sims into bunnies! Go you good things go! XD

taliah~

There is a special rule for the Roman era only. We can add sims from CAS. However it can only be one at a time. Like no couples or families.

I fully planned to not do that at all. But the end of the Neanderthal era was a total catastrophe. I ended up with just 2 sims, father and daughter plantsims passed out due to lack of water.

Some people in this thread have reported that they accidently overdid it, and it took forever to get through a round in the Roman era. Some were making a sim whenever there wasn't someone for their sim to marry.

Not wanting to go the over population route, I figured I need to make myself some rules.

The first little rule was to set the minimum # of sims to begin the Roman era. There would be no couples due to the one at a time rule. But I formed this around the idea that the sims may pair up. I decided my remaining sims ought to be Emperor and Princess as they were the only to survive. After that I went with 4 Patricians, 6 Plebians and 8 slaves, half men, half women. I also introduced an Aphrodite to create the world's first brothel....I know messed up....but fun!

Since unmarried slaves and plebian (servants) must work for a master the all lived with the Emperor or a Patrician. This makes for fewer houses and faster rounds!

Then I decided after that IF I make more sims it can't be more than once per round. I also set a limit for when this happens. I count the # of occupied houses. That is how many sims I can create at one time - but I get to pick which class and gender.

Oh yes....after doing a little Roman history research.... I decided that IF they want to the men may woohoo with their slaves and servants. This was expected behavior of upperclass Roman men. That means 2 things. 1. I'm glad I wasn't born in ancient Rome. 2. Diversity for my sims!

I don't want to be underpopulated in the next era. I've decided to add more sims whenever the first baby of the generation is born or when all the fertile sims of one gender in one class are gone.

Right now the 5th generation is one toddler. I have 6 occupied homes.

Fun facts about my Roman Brothel. I fully planned that all the brothel daughters would become prostitutes and all the sons slaves for the upper class when they become teens. I anticipated needing to open up more brothels. I was sadly mistaken. Due to fires and starvation I have had an Aprhodite, a Venus, and a Goddess - just one at a time! There has not been a single daughter! But between them all there have been 5 sons: Cupid, Eros, Cherub, Himeros, and Hymen.

Ok, now I have to explain Hymen so you won't think I'm a total perv. I looked up to see if there were any other names for Cupid or similar Gods. I was not disappointed. Cupid had some lesser God friends! I forget what Himeros was. Hymen? He is the God of Wedding Fertility, or something like that....book is in the other room. After a good hard laugh I stuck the poor baby with that name.

My real kids have good names that people won't make fun of. No, really! I swear!

I may be in trouble. As much as a few days ago i was worried about over population, after losing pretty much all of one family I only have 6 female sims (most of which are around 3) with the roman era one round away (i haven't been updating much) I will have to give in and put CAS sims into my game after all. I'll have everyone breed like crazy this round and try to stop them dying buut at this rate their aren't going to be many romans. At least with the number of excess male sims, there won't be any lack of slaves to kill :P

EDIT: I Found another little girl Yay

I didn't see your post Chicklet but I agree with lots of the things your saying with seven girls I'm thinking 1 emperor, 2 patricians, 2 plebians and 2(plus any unpartnered men) slaves. Then just to mix things up I'll throw either a brothel or a plebian house with 4 unrelated sims, 3 girls and a guy (maybe) who will not be marrying one another.

I love how this game can always surprise you, as soon as you think somethings going to be easy (or that you won't need CAS) half your sims die. When you want them all to die they're dancing around on fire for ages and manage to survive.

Unless I dial back the dark ages rules or something, my little simies are going to breed like crazy for the next few generations. If the numbers are still too low at the end of roman era I'll just extend it for another half gen or something. Or maybe put all the sims I don't want to die as vikings so they're a little safer.

EDIT, again:
If anyone's interested I've updated a few families in roman round 1. It's a relief to have houses again.

Last edited by lbsgirl24 : 31st May 2013 at 1:49 PM.

Hello everybody ! RL has taken over and I dont get much simming in these days tho I try to do a day here and there. Im still going thru the caveman era and this one lot with 5 kids plus 2 parents is doing my head in ! It is taking forever to get thru it but I can see the end now thankfully. There was much talk about "the Bear" and I had the most unsual thing happen when she showed up on this lot (see pics ). Anyone else experience this?

Wow I've never seen that before although if I was still playing with the social workers, there'd be even less of a gen three in my game. You might have managed to get everyone's mood up enough that taking the children was no longer necessary. However as the child was still overheating, I doubt it. Possibly a glitch although a favorable one. Let us know if she does come back the next day.

Unfortunately my tot neighborhood has disappeared. Just as I got to the roman era. I was just going to update my backup too.

Hi all! I started this challenge maybe 9 months or a year ago, and got fed up with the constant summer and overheating. But I decided to open that neighborhood recently and start playing again, and I'm completely addicted! My gen 3 kids are just starting to age to toddler, and I found that trying to add a little storyline has helped keep interest, and lessen the aggravation of overheating!

I'm so glad this thread is still active, it was nice to come back and get some tips on transitioning to the next phase, since I'm already starting to plan out the Roman era.



If one of your sims is a family sim or has a secondary aspiration of family, and you have given them all the aspiration benefit points (or whatever they're called), one of the benefits is plead with social worker, and that is exactly what happened in that picture. She shows up, then gives you another 24 hours to remedy the situation. But if she has to come again, she will take away the kids. This happened to me in more than one of my families. One time I wasn't able to get the kids temperature down, and she took away half the family!

The kid was standing beside her passed out so I was very surprised. I didnt save and played along and she came back but only when the eldest kid got an F in school. Took her forever to take them all away. I cheated tho and exited without saving and she never came back for the heat stroke. Kpcca you may be on to something there ! I do believe I gave this couple extra points. It was a test so not something I normally do.

anna, I've found playing this challenge I experience a lot of things I've never experienced before playing this game, which is one of the reasons this is so fun. The first time the social worker showed up for my family, I remembered I had the plead with social worker points and I was desperately clicking on the social worker to try and get the option to beg, then that notice popped up, and I was like oh, that must be it!