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Sneak Preview of Project CRUMB - posted on 21st May 2017 at 7:32 PM
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Top Secret Researcher
#51 Old 14th Mar 2017 at 10:47 AM
Yup, that's the main complaint of the game... Best strategy is to choose just one skill to max out, and only few to have there for offering services (serenade, shaman, benchpress)

Few other complaints:
- Overpopulation of money and skill lots... Nobody does anything else, no fun in the game, no lots of other types Everybody is afk in a game with social elements
- New businesses cannot get into the spotlight because of the overpopulation of JAM lots
- When a lot have everything a sim needs (money,skilling,greening,stores), then only few places will be full all of the time and other places are empty

What I described is all that game actually is right now, which is midless afk/grind and nothing else. But it's still beta... I wonder if it will change when it comes out. They announced CC support and have already provided tools for making new objects from scratch.

Even both discord groups are silent... The only time it's active is when server goes down and everybody starts complaining like small children lol

At least a portion of players and developers are aware that game deffinitelly has great flaws. They plan on incorportaing other stuff from Sims expansions, but in different form (EA copyright), once they make CC available on global server.
Lab Assistant
#52 Old 14th Mar 2017 at 6:47 PM
I have the same concerns as well.

And I think the problem isn't the lack of custom content, it's the lack of imagination. Like you said, there are plenty of jam lots in the game, which I understand. They're popular because they make money and help visitors make money. But they all look the same (not because we don't have CC) but because people aren't willing to put a lot of thought into a theme other than filling the place up with jam stations and beds and showers.

I also think a lot of the lots are poorly decorated (I do like your Mortar Hill lot though!).

I know it sounds harsh, but people seem more interested in function than style. I get that. But it makes me wonder...why are their communal showers on almost every jam/skilling/money lot? And why are all the beds in the same room? Why don't they come up with names that don't have the word "jam" in it? This just encourages players to grind and go AFK because they hosts don't get the ball rolling with some sort of roleplay prompt.

It breaks immersion for me because there's no storytelling/theme behind any of it, and that's not how I normally play the offline Sims games.

Follow the lives of my TS3 sims and their growing integrated economy.
Test Subject
#53 Old 14th Mar 2017 at 8:25 PM
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Originally Posted by newlibertysims
Is there a "trick" to skilling? I've seen a few 1-day-old sims nearly maxed out on a handful of skills while mine struggles to get to a decent level even on crowded lots made for skilling. There are many things I love about this game, but the grinding aspect is turning me off. I don't want to spend all day at my computer helping my character grow as a person while I deteriorate IRL...lol.

Oddly enough, the offline Sims games never made me feel this way. There was no rat race.




If you can find someone to teach skills to your sim it is way faster than just straight up skilling. But yeah, most people just afk skill lol
Top Secret Researcher
#54 Old 14th Mar 2017 at 8:34 PM
Another thing though

Youtubers can promote their lots on youtube so everybody comes flocking to their lots. I thried promoting my property on both discord, FreeSO forum and here... and nothing, ofcourse. Like, I leave my lot open for few hours, and not a single sim steps in. Both when it was entertainment lot and now that it is money lot.
Top Secret Researcher
#55 Old 21st Mar 2017 at 2:00 AM
I just had the craziest party ever...

Well, recently (before the economy changes) I changed my place into a horor disco club (called it Monster Disco!). Opening party was a grand one, but todays party was special.

I needed thombstones so I organised the death party. Ali Iris was lucky enough to be honored death, thombstone and revival at my place (he won the dice game). But the party, jokes and fun were hilarious.


"MASS MURDER!"

Game is much more fun with economy changes and people realising that the game needs to be made fun, not exploited.
Test Subject
#56 Old 21st Mar 2017 at 8:54 AM
I did try to play FreeSO, I really did. At the time, it was just all Jam/pizza/skilling lots and it disappointed me. I don't really see that changing too much regardless of what the developers do. I remain optimistic.
Lab Assistant
#57 Old 21st Mar 2017 at 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight ADR
I did try to play FreeSO, I really did. At the time, it was just all Jam/pizza/skilling lots and it disappointed me. I don't really see that changing too much regardless of what the developers do. I remain optimistic.

It's really up to the players to make it interesting. Most lack imagination.

Follow the lives of my TS3 sims and their growing integrated economy.
Top Secret Researcher
#58 Old 1st Apr 2017 at 11:12 AM
Guys... a great text to speech is in the game for the first of april... I'm having so much fun right now. If you want to have fun, hurry, it's only for today!
Lab Assistant
#59 Old 22nd Apr 2017 at 2:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mixa97sr
Guys... a great text to speech is in the game for the first of april... I'm having so much fun right now. If you want to have fun, hurry, it's only for today!

I was there. It was hilarious!

Follow the lives of my TS3 sims and their growing integrated economy.
Test Subject
#60 Old 14th May 2017 at 8:10 PM Last edited by Simshort : 14th May 2017 at 8:11 PM. Reason: apparently I didn't save a description
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Originally Posted by mixa97sr
and have already provided tools for making new objects from scratch.


About this, the tools are offline. If you want to do this, I have the tools provided. They're meant for Blender.
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: zip freesotemplate.zip (431.1 KB, 1 downloads) - View custom content
Description: FreeSO template for blender
File Type: zip freesopy.zip (1.7 KB, 1 downloads) - View custom content
Description: FreeSO multitile exporter for Blender
File Type: zip freesotemplate-withHeightGuides.zip (381.9 KB, 1 downloads) - View custom content
Description: FreeSO template for blender with height guides, created by Woobsha Raeven, has permission to reupload
Top Secret Researcher
#61 Old 19th May 2017 at 10:13 AM Last edited by mixa97sr : 19th May 2017 at 10:30 AM.
Yeah, but users need to know how to use Volcanic in order to be able to make sprites into objects. And for that they need to install Legacy version besides the Global server version.

It's good that CC can be in game as soon as someone makes a working object. They can send it to a mod on the forums and it will be tested out rigorously (harsh moderation). The problem is, user won't get any money from CC now, because the plugin for importing CC is not finished, which means that CC in beta will actually be available to anyone in the catalog. But it's still nice to know that we can help develop the game.

Also, about the economy and fun aspect of the game, here are some news:

- Lighting was greatly improved and is now better than the original Sims game (way better, on par with sims 2 lighting).
- Card game and Band Stand plugins are done, which means more minigame/user-made games in game.
- AFK timer was introduced, which means less server strain and more active lots. Timer lasts for 20 minutes and then boots the inactive sim.
- Clicking on sims while overlapping with objects was fixed which means sims can now interact on dance floor and in love beds.

Those are the new things that were introduced since main developer finished university work.

Next up, what he plans to do is restore the Maze group money object (or re-imagine it) and redo the rest of the jobs, fix current ones and introduce new ones.

Then there is the plan on balancing solo money objects by introducing Dynamic Demand Payment System which will change the payout of solo money object based on player demand for that object. Which means most used solo money objects will start to pay way less, and the least demanded object will start to pay much more. That way users will have to explore new options of solo money objects with each week or even day.

This is all going to be implemented very soon and is going to change the game very much. Which means it's either going to be hit or miss with some players. Those who enjoy the fun, challenging games will definitely enjoy the changes, while those who like grind fests and afk gaming will very soon abandon the game.
Instructor
#62 Old 22nd May 2017 at 10:26 PM
Don't like the staff/devs that resurrected the project. Felt bad vibes from them.

Gotta tell ya, their discord chat is terrible and cancerious, and there was no moderation going on. A few people threw insults at me and one of the staff members did name calling me too.
Top Secret Researcher
#63 Old 23rd May 2017 at 5:36 PM Last edited by mixa97sr : 24th May 2017 at 9:42 AM.
You kept suggesting things over and over on discord and on forums... They are very busy working on big updates to firstly restore the project and then, only then, they are open to suggestions. Right now you can post your suggestions on forum, but don't bugg them on discord. It's the place for players to casually chat and for them to look over bugs.

Also, you have to keep in mind that this is an MMO game, so not every aspect of the original sims games can't be functionally redeveloped in this one. And not ecery aspect that you want to be in game will be there.

As much as I know they listened to my feedback on fixing the economy by nerfing solo money objects and making plans for dynamic solo money object payout.

Great news tho... I learned to use Volcanic. A tool Rhys (main developer) made for making objects entirely from scratch. Today I am almost done on my very first object.

This, hopefuly, means CC support in the game, and it will probably be like never before!

EDIT:

Is this you on the forums, Sneaky Wing Phoenix?
Instructor
#64 Old 25th May 2017 at 10:57 AM
It's not about suggestions, so my points still stands. I'm talking about the "drama" with Alex. Rules does not mention anti-discrimination, so I can assume they aren't punishing those people that like to dongs fairly. Why do I have to feel like a trashcan when someone throwing shades at me without standing up for myself, otherwise I should be muted ,because - "drama".
Top Secret Researcher
#65 Old 25th May 2017 at 11:03 AM
That's Alexs' way of doing things. He is joking that way. If you have problem with him just avoid him. I admit, he was a bitch to me in the begining, but he helps me lately. He is just 18 year old that is still under hormones. Do not mind him.

But I do agree that mods should make an announcment for new members to not take Alex way too seriously.
Instructor
#66 Old 25th May 2017 at 10:38 PM
Yeah, but I believe the channel could be done better If the respective staff member or the creator was putting out important rules that enforces peopl to be tolerant, instead of telling us "Hey, let him be a dick to you, but just pretend it isn't happening despite on how the bully makes you feel".
Top Secret Researcher
#67 Old 25th May 2017 at 11:22 PM
which is reasonable, right? They cannot force everyone to act the same on the channel. That's the internet. You can ignore the people that you find annoying in person. Why couldn't you ignore people on internet. Even better, discord has ignore feature, if you don't want to see Alex's posts.
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Instructor
#68 Old 26th May 2017 at 12:44 PM
They can force them, via punishment right? Imagine If this forum allowed people to troll around.
Top Secret Researcher
#69 Old 26th May 2017 at 2:27 PM
This forum does not have ignore feature... not that I know of at least. Discord does. They are busy with object making, game programming and bug fixing. They plan to shit tons of updates in next few months. They surely cannot waste time on quarrel between two people, especially when one of them has the ability to ignore the other.
Mad Poster
#70 Old 27th May 2017 at 4:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mixa97sr
This forum does not have ignore feature... not that I know of at least. Discord does. They are busy with object making, game programming and bug fixing. They plan to shit tons of updates in next few months. They surely cannot waste time on quarrel between two people, especially when one of them has the ability to ignore the other.
There is an ignore feature here if you go to the profile page of the person you want to ignore.
Top Secret Researcher
#71 Old 27th May 2017 at 3:26 PM
Oh, nice...
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