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#676 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 7:35 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CooCooCoo
The game is about a lot of things


Of course it is, duh. But that's the reason why it shouldn't matter that this option is taken away. It wasn't a big deal compared to the rest.
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#677 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 7:38 AM
Quote: Originally posted by hoefjenietteweten
Of course it is, duh. But that's the reason why it shouldn't matter that this option is taken away. It wasn't a big deal compared to the rest.


It is a big deal for some people.

Honestly i don't undertand this mentality "i didn't need cast, so you shouldn't need it too!" I can say that i didn't need car animations, so you don't need it too! The game is about a lot of other things! /sarcasm
Test Subject
#678 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 7:44 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CooCooCoo
It is a big deal for some people.

Honestly i don't undertand this mentality "i didn't need cast, so you shouldn't need it too!" I can say that i didn't need car animations, so you don't need it too! The game is about a lot of other things! /sarcasm


It's not the main point of the game. They didn't design it so people could go customize a wall. It was just a possibility. And I do understand that maybe people are a little upset about it, but if you don't buy the game just because a detail like that is removed, then I don't understand why you bought the other sims game in the first place.
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#679 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 7:51 AM
Quote: Originally posted by hoefjenietteweten
It's not the main point of the game. They didn't design it so people could go customize a wall. It was just a possibility. And I do understand that maybe people are a little upset about it, but if you don't buy the game just because a detail like that is removed, then I don't understand why you bought the other sims game in the first place.


There's a whole community dedicated to building, people that spend most of their time building things, creating objects for their houses etc so no, it's not a secondary part of gameplay, it's a primary reason to play for some people
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#680 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 8:12 AM
Oh, well if you and your sister have no problem with it then I guess nobody else should! I mean, I always use the tool to decorate every room I build, but hey, as long as you and your sister are excited, why the hell should we be annoyed that a useful and easy to use tool is being cut?
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#681 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 8:32 AM
Quote: Originally posted by pirate_wolf_12
Oh, well if you and your sister have no problem with it then I guess nobody else should! I mean, I always use the tool to decorate every room I build, but hey, as long as you and your sister are excited, why the hell should we be annoyed that a useful and easy to use tool is being cut?


'Useful and easy', don't make me laugh. Well if you have a problem with it, I would suggest you go cry in your room, because your favorite function is removed. The producers already decided to remove it. AND I DON'T FUCKING CARE. So who's loss is it?! Not mine, because I'm REALLY happy about it. And I was just giving my opinion for Gods sake.
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#682 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 8:49 AM
Quit snarking and grumping at each other.

If you cannot discuss this civilly, perhaps it's time to take a step back from the thread and do something else. I hear there are these fun games you can play with these little pixel people in your computer? Maybe try that.

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#683 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 9:10 AM
What I don't understand is why they HAD to remove in completely. I understand it has issues, but I can actually run it quite well. I mean yes, sometimes it kinda gets stuck when I try to move the exact same pattern i did on a chair to another chair and I have to get out of cast and load it again, but it's not something THAT bad. Even in my old computer it wasn't THAT bad, and belive me, it was a computer that could barely run the sims on the lowest settings. Anyway. It has issues, but why can't they improve it? Why does it have to be between "having it with all it's issues" or "not having it at all"? Would people be so happy about removing it if it did worked properly the first time? Because that's the complain I read the most "it runs like crap so better get rid of it". I also understand some people don't need it and some find it overwealming, but still, why can't we ask for an improved product instead of a total removal? Why yeah, it's EA and we know how they can mess things up and break things that were not broken, but still one can hope.
Test Subject
#684 Old 21st Jun 2014 at 4:53 PM
Why is CAST not important? I think customization is a big part of The Sims now. Even though we didn't see anyting about the gameplay yet people are pre ordering TS4 just because they like the new CAS which is another customization tool. If CAST doesn't have anything to do with the game play then what about CAS? What does it add to the game play to change a sim's nose size? I don't see anyone complaining about the new CAS being too much or irrelevant of a sims game. Yes, TS1 didn't have CAST and was still enjoyable but it didn't have CAS either. I don't think anyone would want a sims game without CAS now. Just because you don't use something doesn't mean it's unnecessary. You always have the option to keep not using it. If I didn't use it and didn't care about it I wouldn't bother to come and say "I don't use it so it can go to hell" especially when I see that many people care about it. Unless I want to sound selfish or defend EA for God knows what reason.
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#685 Old 25th Jun 2014 at 1:59 PM
Well, I just want to make a point that-

(also keep in mind that I am being extremely optimistic here cos I'm slightly desperate)

What if they are having us on? They might put all this uprising up for nothing and then BOOM they actually have it in the game and we all feel like complete idiots- and imagine the rush of customers filling their wallets!- so I'm just putting this out there so that we all may still have some hope for this rapidly declining game.

Also just a personal note here: just that if they actually follow through with this doomed decision, that CAST was still a very important part of my simming experience, but I will probably still purchase at least the base game because, c'mon guys it's sims 4, and do you honestly think that after this they will be releasing any sims 3 packs? No. They will be completely focused on S4 and S3 will be left in the dust of our shelves just like what happened to S1 and S2. And yes, all this crap they're putting out there about the frigging 'colour based emotions' is a load of s**t and was extremely unessecary (also, fck you, green houses, I don't need your shit effects because they will sure as hell find a cheat like testingcheatsenabled and i can just VOOM their happiness up) but they will probably have a range of default colours which we can choose from, and I'm not going to miss out on making shelf butts and boobs cos EA took away what brought up S3. So there's my opinion on this. (also just to add that it is extremely ironic that I am currently using CAST at this very moment while playing S3!)
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#686 Old 25th Jun 2014 at 2:13 PM


This was released yesterday on Twitter and I think this is the compromise developed for CASt. My opinion and just so you know, things may change as I am typing this right now.

There are colors, materials, outfit category, and style. This may add the texture changes along with colors. *is guessing*

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#687 Old 25th Jun 2014 at 2:21 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Minnihorse
What if they are having us on? They might put all this uprising up for nothing and then BOOM they actually have it in the game and we all feel like complete idiots


This is not really how EA's marketing work. They put in one or two cool features, then they go crazy about telling us about these features over and over again in every single interview. Their TS3 campaign was a joke, we almost didn't hear anything else but "how amazing the seamless neighbourhood would be".

So I find it very unlikely they would make any intelligent drama out of this.
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#688 Old 26th Jun 2014 at 1:02 PM
Quote: Originally posted by The Builder
This is not really how EA's marketing work. They put in one or two cool features, then they go crazy about telling us about these features over and over again in every single interview. Their TS3 campaign was a joke, we almost didn't hear anything else but "how amazing the seamless neighbourhood would be".

So I find it very unlikely they would make any intelligent drama out of this.


Yeah, but note that I did say I was being extremely optimistic
Test Subject
#689 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 12:57 AM
Quote: Originally posted by lewisb40


This was released yesterday on Twitter and I think this is the compromise developed for CASt. My opinion and just so you know, things may change as I am typing this right now.

There are colors, materials, outfit category, and style. This may add the texture changes along with colors. *is guessing*


This is just a way to sort things so you can select your clothes by color//material...
So if you select the blue option in color and the leather option in material, it will probably show you only 1 or 2 outfits. This doesn't let you change colors/materials...

So be happy with the options they give you or be ready to go to the online store
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#690 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 1:00 AM
The thing I love about that (and no CASt) is that it doesn't look freaking shiny. Denim looks like denim, not like plastic.
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#691 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 9:37 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Tuber101
The thing I love about that (and no CASt) is that it doesn't look freaking shiny. Denim looks like denim, not like plastic.

That too. TS3 sims looked like pornstars who were oiled up and ready to go.
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#692 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 12:03 PM
I just "love' how people here are happy that CASt is gone because textures are now less shiny. LOL. I am not sure that it was a CASt problem, maybe it was the problem with lighting (TS3 has crappy lighting, thanks BurntWaffles for her mods that fix that!), and, even if that shine was because of CASt, it is not the reason to take CASt away, it is the reason to IMPROVE CASt.
No matter how many "pleasant" news we get from EA, like no toddlers and pools in the basegame, no CASt is still the main problem for me, becaus eit means that, even if there will be EPs that add missing features to the game and introduce new interesting ones, there will still be the need to download a gazillion recolors for build/buy mode stuff and hair, and this is the best way to make this game lag like hell. In TS3 it is possible to make interesting, realistic and diverse exteriors and interiors even with not very much content (I have almost no CC in my game now, and it is not a big problem, I mainly notice the lack of good curtains, pictures, and indoor plants), but, if you have even a good choice of meshes, but you pick an item and see no good recolors for it in game, this is a significant limitation. In TS2 I used very limited number of objects untill I discovered CC, and my Downloads folder was enormously huge.

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#693 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 12:10 PM
The shine had nothing to do with CAST. It was due to over-contrasted speculars on most base objects. While patterns could have their own speculars (so metal would shine more than wood), most of what you'd see was from the object itself. I did a few default replacements of some of the clothing for my own game, especially the worst ones like the adult male and female basic loose workout/sleep pants.

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#694 Old 29th Jun 2014 at 12:23 PM
Quote: Originally posted by HystericalParoxysm
It was due to over-contrasted speculars on most base objects.

I know, right? I want to know who the texture "artists" were on TS3. Everything was shining like fucking Piccadilly Circus in that game. It was like an above-ground nuclear detonation had took place.
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#695 Old 30th Jun 2014 at 1:19 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Motorcitydude
I know, right? I want to know who the texture "artists" were on TS3. Everything was shining like fucking Piccadilly Circus in that game. It was like an above-ground nuclear detonation had took place.


Try Lowering your graphics... That might help
Test Subject
#696 Old 6th Jul 2014 at 5:12 PM
come on people its one option which they have taken out which will probably be included later on don't just demand a reason for it ask nicely for a reason and maybe you will get somewhere
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#697 Old 6th Jul 2014 at 5:19 PM
Just been on sims 3 forums and someone said they are currently considering putting CASt or some version of it in the game but not right now so that gives you all some hope heres the link http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/709663.page
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#698 Old 6th Jul 2014 at 5:26 PM
That's from almost a year ago. Since then, they've confirmed there's no CAST in the base game, and that it's not the sort of thing that can be added on later (since ya kinda gotta build the game with CAST in mind, if you want to use it).

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#699 Old 6th Jul 2014 at 5:43 PM
Quote: Originally posted by HystericalParoxysm
That's from almost a year ago. Since then, they've confirmed there's no CAST in the base game, and that it's not the sort of thing that can be added on later (since ya kinda gotta build the game with CAST in mind, if you want to use it).
well i didn't use it in the sims 3 but i can understand why people are upset but im sure they will create something which is just as easy to create styles or maybe the colour wheel is meant for creating styles we wont know till we play the game im waiting to play the game to see how easy it is to mod the game and create styles
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#700 Old 6th Jul 2014 at 5:45 PM
If they were considering on putting CASt in only 11 months ago then they were working on the core engine then, wow no wonder so much stuff was left out.


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