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18th Jun 2008, 09:54 PM
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Can anyone confirm the three install limit? #1 |
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xylune
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Besides the SecuRom concerns, the most discouraging thing I've heard about this expansion is the install limit. I'd be buying this expansion, not renting it, and I'd like to be able to keep playing it years from now the way I do the old Sims 1 game and expansions. Can anyone confirm or disprove the news that Apartment Life discs will have limited uses before we have to beg the company to give us a code to make them functional again? I'm not talking about digital downloads, I'm talking about hard copies. There are too many factors in every day computer use that makes limited installations on a game disk a horrible business move, including the bugs that the expansions commonly get released with and how often customers have to uninstall/reinstall the game. There's also the issue of limited support. In five years will they still offer the necessary support for AL users to reset their installation limit on their discs? I'm very concerned about this and so far I haven't gotten any answers from official reps. I'm hoping that someone in here has some solid information that I've thus been unable to obtain. I'd really like to get this expansion but I won't if the disc is going to turn into a dud after three or so installs, and even if it's limited to "three computers", computers don't last forever and I already have a desktop and a laptop I play on, so that's two down and I'll be due for a new desktop soon. |
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For a species that claims to be intellectually superior to all other life forms, humans do some stupid things. |
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18th Jun 2008, 10:14 PM
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kustirider2
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I think they were deciding to put the limit on the sims 3 but i think they rethank the idea after complaints. I dont think they will do it for AL |
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18th Jun 2008, 10:15 PM
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mangaroo
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Where have you heard rumors of such a limit? It sounds like the ghost of this thread, which was about Spore and not Sims 2. |
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18th Jun 2008, 11:08 PM
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musiquefille_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
Anyway, limits are hard to control with a disc. The could possibly impose limits on downloads from the EA store though. They've done it for other games. |
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18th Jun 2008, 11:13 PM
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tizerist_
Join Date: Jun 2008 |
I think its an unrealistic proposal. Even for Sims 3. It shows all the hallmarks of a group of people who are unhealthily obsessive about piracy and who seem to be taking a "You're all going to suffer unless they stop" type of approach. |
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18th Jun 2008, 11:17 PM
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HystericalParoxysm
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musiquefille - The idea with the three install limit is that you have to initialize the install by being online when you install. If you aren't online, you can't finish the install. You get three installs before you have to contact EA. There's no evidence I've seen whatsoever that this scheme will be put in Apartment Life. It was mentioned for Mass Effect and Spore but I don't think we have any evidence whatsoever for it in Apartment Life, so you're probably pretty safe. Just check the box before you buy for any warnings saying "requires internet connection to play" or something like that and you'll know for sure. |
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18th Jun 2008, 11:22 PM
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xylune
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Thanks, HystericalParoxysm. That makes me feel a little better, at least. |
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For a species that claims to be intellectually superior to all other life forms, humans do some stupid things. |
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20th Jun 2008, 02:02 AM
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Grig 32
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*snicker* knowing the hackers and coders that hang around on the internet that sucker would be cracked and broken before you can say legality :P |
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20th Jun 2008, 02:07 AM
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HystericalParoxysm
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Grig 32 - True, but as it is illegal, we would never condone that sort of thing here. 
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20th Jun 2008, 05:06 AM
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Tim_L
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Lets hope that it doesn't happen in TS3 then. Like an example, Buy the game, Install 3 times, Contact EA 8 years later, EA might not exist meaning its pointless xD Just saying. |
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20th Jun 2008, 06:38 AM
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I hate this. I am really hoping for EA to come up with something better because this is not fair. I mean, I would be okay with it if it were 3 different computers but NOT 3 installs. I have reinstalled Sims 2 numerous times and by now would have had to purchase another copy if this 3 install thing existed. I am glad AL won't be like this, at least finish of Sims 2 as the way it is. I hope enough complaints will change EA's mind like the 10-day check in did. 
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I speak English primarily. Hablo español. Falo muito português.
Je voudrais practiquer mon français. Ich lerne deutsch. Parlo poco italiano. |
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20th Jun 2008, 06:56 AM
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era506
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Join Date: Nov 2005 |
Woah!! I really hope this is not true!! I usually format my HDD once or twice a year (or even more, for "educational" reasons, I study Computer Sciencie and sometimes I really screw up things a lot! lol), I won't buy any EA game if they impose us those restrictions... |
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21st Jun 2008, 04:19 AM
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frankie
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Yeah... disposable games, lol. |
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I speak English primarily. Hablo español. Falo muito português.
Je voudrais practiquer mon français. Ich lerne deutsch. Parlo poco italiano. |
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21st Jun 2008, 04:49 AM
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treeag
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frankie, it IS 3 different computers. Note that if you upgrade a certain part of your pc, it may be count as a new computer Then again, there's no evidence that this version of SecuROM will be included in AL... |
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21st Jun 2008, 07:28 AM
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nekochanpurr_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
I think its stupid. We bought the dang thing, if we want to install it 100 times without telling anyone, we should damn well be able to. |
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21st Jun 2008, 12:33 PM
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Inge Jones
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I agree with the OP. If I like a game, I might be wanting to play it until I die. If I die at 86, that will be 7 to 10 computers I have got through, and EA might not even be in business any more to interact with my installation. |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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21st Jun 2008, 01:04 PM
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ShortyBoo_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
I wouldn't be surprised if they did include this version of SecuROM. EA has said it will be on all their games from now on, so why would AL be excluded from that? I read about someone who owns Mass Effect and after changing his video card, they decided that it's a new computer (which is ridiculous) and they won't let him play. I change parts in my computer once a year in the summer and I don't want to lose the right to play a game I spent tons of money on. |
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21st Jun 2008, 01:47 PM
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HystericalParoxysm
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If ya'll feel so strongly about it, why not contact EA now, before Apartment Life, or any more games come out and tell 'em so, and confirm what copy protection will be on AL for sure rather than speculating? Contacting EA has been an effective method of changing copy protection in the past - certainly, if enough folks do so again (of course, in a polite and reasonable manner) then we may see a change. It's said in marketing that for every one person that contacts you, there's a thousand people who feel the same way who didn't contact you... so if a significant portion of people make it clear they're sick of these copy protection schemes, they'll change. You just have to make your voice heard - to them. |
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21st Jun 2008, 10:01 PM
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era506
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Join Date: Nov 2005 |
Well, I have contacted EA about this issue, I should get an answer in 24 hours... |
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22nd Jun 2008, 04:42 AM
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frankie
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HP, I honestly didn't think that worked. I actually thought they would "ignore" you. Wow, that is great to hear. I think we should all call EA. Granted, they may still keep using Securom, but at least change some things about it. |
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I speak English primarily. Hablo español. Falo muito português.
Je voudrais practiquer mon français. Ich lerne deutsch. Parlo poco italiano. |
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22nd Jun 2008, 07:41 AM
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nekochanpurr_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
I agree. I plan on also calling EA on Monday... Hopefully they realize that if they went through with this plan, it would be foolish. |
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22nd Jun 2008, 04:39 PM
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era506
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Join Date: Nov 2005 |
I got an answer from EA!!! To the relief of many of us, here is the message: Quote:
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22nd Jun 2008, 04:42 PM
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HystericalParoxysm
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frankie - EA is motivated by money more than anything. Convince them that their decisions will lose them money and they will change. It's probably unlikely we'll ever get them to drop their silly copy protections and SecuROM entirely, but as we saw with the Spore/Mass Effect "activate every 10 days or it stops working" scheme, our voices can and do count when we make them heard. era506 - Good info. Thanks for sharing it with us.  Also, your dang avatar made me keep trying to rub a hair off my monitor. 
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22nd Jun 2008, 04:46 PM
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era506
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Join Date: Nov 2005 |
Quote:
You're welcome!! lol The same happens to me sometimes lol |
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22nd Jun 2008, 04:50 PM
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treeag
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Thanks era! I hope they're not lying... |
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