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17th Jun 2007, 03:07 PM
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 Rolling the Pacifier and Firstborn Syndrome
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HystericalParoxysm
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What the heck is rolling the pacifier? What causes all my sim kids to look the same? What is firstborn syndrome? Someone explain all this stuff!!! Oh wait, we have! Game Guide:Pregnancy Definitions, info, what to do, why to do it, and all the shiny details you could want! Got more info on rolling the pacifier, or questions on it? Post them here! Just remember to check the guide to see that your tip/question isn't already covered. |
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18th Jun 2007, 11:07 AM
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Moon Dragon
Lab Assistant
Join Date: Sep 2005 |
If you hadn't mentioned concepts I'd never heard of I never would have read the pregnancy guide. I never knew about half the stuff written there. Thanks for pointing it out. |
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17th Jul 2007, 07:48 AM
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.:MileyTiger:.
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
Thanks, that really helps with the idendtical twins thingy  I never knew what 'Rolling The Pacifier' or 'Firstborn Sindrone' was
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21st Jul 2007, 07:22 PM
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TRIriana
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This was really helpful! I was getting annoyed when my newborns were looking very similar to siblings - now their features do reflect mixes of family members past, and not just one. |
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16th Sep 2007, 11:57 AM
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chloechloe03
Test Subject
Join Date: Jan 2006 |
wow, no wonder all my sims look the same and boring, im going to start 'rolling the pacifier' from now on, too bad my CAS takes FOREVER to load =[ |
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25th Oct 2007, 01:45 PM
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BlackVelvet
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
Is it just me or does 'Rolling the Pacifier" sound vaguely obscene? It is just me isn't it? 
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25th Oct 2007, 10:01 PM
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markusrandall
Test Subject
Join Date: Feb 2007 |
hahaha...it does |
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26th Oct 2007, 09:18 AM
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fway
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Don't Forget that Sims Can Get Pregnant in the Sauna with Bon Voyage. |
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27th Oct 2007, 02:09 AM
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oceanborn_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
I've heard that the firstborn syndrome thing was fixed after Seasons but I don't have seasons installed right now. I downloaded the lot debugger some weeks ago and I love how each child come out with different looks and personality. I started to realize something was wrong when the Schaffer family had 5 kids (2 boys and 3 girls) who looked exactly the same with different hair and eyecolours! I ended up keeping my favourite boy from the family and deleted the rest. |
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27th Oct 2007, 02:15 AM
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slice_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
Wow, I had no idea about the First Born Syndrome thing. |
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27th Oct 2007, 03:06 AM
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annachibi
Scholar
Join Date: Jan 2007 |
Oh man, all my sims' latter children have the same personality! No wonder! That was really beginning to bug me.  Thanks for that, HP!! *big hugs*
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27th Oct 2007, 07:04 PM
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Lemon&Lime
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If you're playing the game and can't go into CAS - what is it that you do again to avoid the syndrome? |
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Has changed username from Figgi to Lemon&Lime, thanks admins! :) |
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27th Oct 2007, 09:00 PM
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L3w1s
Test Subject
Join Date: Aug 2008 |
load another lot before loadign the lot that has the female you want to get pregnant. or load the lot, leave, then load again. |
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27th Oct 2007, 09:18 PM
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HystericalParoxysm
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No, that won't do it, L3w1s. http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?...stborn_Syndrome If, for some reason, you don't wanna go through CAS you'll need to use Pescado's lot debugger. |
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27th Oct 2007, 09:56 PM
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Lemon&Lime
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I can't go back to cas after I have created the family though can I? |
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Has changed username from Figgi to Lemon&Lime, thanks admins! :) |
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27th Oct 2007, 10:09 PM
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Daisie
Top Secret Researcher
Join Date: Jun 2007 |
Figgi, you don't need to go back to that particular family in CAS - just save their lot, exit to the neighborhood, enter CAS, and follow one of the procedures spelled out in the tutorial above (linked by HP), using random sims.
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28th Oct 2007, 11:16 AM
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Lemon&Lime
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Oooo I understand it now. Gosh, this makes me realise just how complicated the Sims2 really is. The amount of specialised knowledge you need! This makes Sims3 even more scary O.O |
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Has changed username from Figgi to Lemon&Lime, thanks admins! :) |
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28th Oct 2007, 11:34 AM
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HystericalParoxysm
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Well, the firstborn/rolling the pacifier thing is one of the hardest things to explain, but once you wrap your mind around exactly what's happening (the game starts each time with the same genetic seed number - generate new sims or get it to roll that number forward after the first kid, so your babies are born using a different genetic seed number and look different) it's not too bad.
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28th Oct 2007, 11:47 AM
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Lemon&Lime
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True, it does seem a lot more simpler now that I've got my head round it. (She says as she tries to de-code what HP said in the brackets). |
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Has changed username from Figgi to Lemon&Lime, thanks admins! :) |
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1st Nov 2007, 07:57 PM
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Boioi
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
I'm still having a problem, all the babys still look the same.  One of my female Sims is pregnant, it's the second baby. I left the lot, went to antoher and then returned, I used "Build a Sim" ingame and created some random Sims and I used the Lotdebugger (the one which looks like a blackbox with a Batman on it), but the newborn always looks like its brother. The Lotdebugger gives me a warning, that it will return to the neighbourhood, but it doesn't return. I'm only owning the base-game, none of the addons. Anyone here who can help me? It's really boring when the kids all look the same even if you tried everything to prevent it. Edit: I tried it again (changed from Schönsichtingen (that's the German name of Pleasentview) to Merkwürdigenhausen (Strangetown), created a random family, changed to General Firtz' Lot and back to the nieghbourhood and lot with the pregnant sim) and its a look-a-like same gender child again.
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1st Nov 2007, 08:26 PM
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Zaggytiddies
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I'm very sorry if you already realize this but all the babies do look the same. When you age them to toddlers they start to look like individuals. | |
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1st Nov 2007, 08:53 PM
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Boioi
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
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Yeah, I know that baby all the babys look the same, but up to now they where all male, had a brown skin (only one prant is brown) and yellow eye-brows. What about black eye-brows or another skintone? Isn't it possible? |
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1st Nov 2007, 10:00 PM
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Simfox7
Test Subject
Join Date: Dec 2004 |
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The children are limited to the various genetic combinations available from the parents. Sims created from CAS are able to pass on only traits that are exhibited. Second generation sims and beyond may be "carriers" for unexpressed traits (hair color, eye color, etc) that are not expressed. I don't believe that sims can spontaneously mutate and have traits that do not exist somewhere in the family tree. |
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1st Nov 2007, 11:12 PM
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musiquefille_SC
Join Date: Jan 1970 |
a more surefire way to tell if they are clones is to check their personality traits. if they match and they look the same, they are. otherwise, its just a chance that they happened to get the same major features such as skin/hair/eye colors. |
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3rd Nov 2007, 07:47 AM
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markusrandall
Test Subject
Join Date: Feb 2007 |
Pescado's lot debugger works great for this. I just tried it out for the first time the other night and my Sim wound up having twins. They both have unique traits and features. |
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