I hate teen parents.
I hate them.
I hate most parents.
I'm full of hate I know. :D

But these people...give their lives away before really living them....

Why not just commit suicide? Seriously.

Your comment reminded me of the Utah band, The Used.

The lead singer, Brent, broke up with his girlfriend when it was revealed she was four and a half months pregnant. A couple days later, she was discovered on her bedroom floor. Dead. He lucked out.

My father said, "It's a hard thing to do. You can't even go to high school anymore. In Vietnam, we did have some who married and gave birth young, but they were at least legal age, nineteen and over!" Yeah, it wasn't like twelve year olds running around, "OMFG I HAVE THE SEX!!!1".

It seems like an endless cycle:

If they keep it, chances are that they'll either be financially irresponsible or lacking, abusive, can't find time for kids, unhealthy in diet and manners, or just all of those together. Some people say it's great because when you're young, the kid will be old and it's easy to understand them (I know a girl whose mother was twenty-nine when she was fifteen, and her grandparents were my father's age, fifty-two). However, looking at society today, it's not always true because a lot of people are still bad and downright irresponsible parents. They could poison their kids or bring them out the same way. They're so young.

If they put it up for adoption, that's good, but what if the same thing happens again? I know they check you for tax deductions and felonies, but with all these pregnant thirteen year olds, how can we all afford to raise them?

My mother was twenty-nine when she had my sis, and thirty-four when she had me, and that was still hard for her. My sister and cousins aren't popping.



I once read a comment, "It's not right. A guy who grows up with only his father will be strong, but too much. He'll grow up hating woman. A guy who only lives with his mom will never truly know what it feels like to be male." And as for how it works if you're a daughter who lives with her father, would you be a tomboy? Haha. But I agree that the dads always do Fleet Street!

It's the same for me here. Unlike my parents, my grandparents were so mellow, but my grandma died before I was born and my gramps was gone the summer I was eleven.

I just need a break. Sometimes I do feel empty and isolated, but when I think about the experience I have had so far, I don't regret it. I still have years to go and if I can't find anybody now, there's always going to be someone in the future.

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the only thing i really regret about my parental situation was how bloody old they were when they had me. granted, they were wise, they were experienced, but they had no energy left to spend on me.
i rarely got to go out, and we even more scarcely went on trips as a family to bond. i resented them for a long time for it. i suppose thatd be the charm of having young parents-theyd be up to taking you out on halloween, or to go camping, or to the beach without throwing a fuss about it and complaining at you about how their feet ache, or how they just got done working, or how they didnt Feel up to it.
its very disappointing to a child [ most children, anyway ] to not be able to go out and explore the world.

/offtopic.

on topic: while i do think the initial decision to have children at such a young age can be detrimental to ones physical and emotional well being, i think it can also be quite good. sure, they may not be born with the knowledge of caring for a child, but they are young enough to be able to fix that. they are young enough to be able to clean up their act and become good parents, on top of whatever responsibilities they also need to address. with some good support, theres nothing these young people truly cannot accomplish.

Not everyone blames the teen girl. If people blame the teen they show mostly their own attitude towards responsability of educating teens. If people blame the teen girls, it shows they think no way the parents could have been doing a crappy education. No it can and must only be the teens fault. Tells a lot about the blamers attitude towards how they would raise a teen.

Why worry about who to blame? Blame all those affiliated and involved. Easy as that.
Most people have kids thinking it will 'enrich their lives', either because they believe this themselves, or are convinced this via sheeple and the greedia.

The only problem having kids fixes is the want for kids and you not having them.

I honestly believe humanity dosen't deserve some of the things it has.

For what it's worth, if someone is really that desperate (and hateful at the same time), the fix is next to nothing. From Day One until the kid hits eighteen (and most of them here don't move out, a sharp contrast to the American Dream), twenty, or whenever they finally get the U-Haul up and out... believe me, my father had to raise two kids this way and was sick and depressed almost every single day.

Okay, it's just surreal. The age that most people would (according to the media) or should be moving out, and then you have to raise a brand new life (usually all by yourself).

I don't mean to be rude nor personal, but your responses seem so very vague to me and I cannot figure out why.
It might be I'm just too stupid to comprehend what you're saying or perhaps you really aren't making sense.

I also cannot disregard the chance that I may be talking out of my ass.

I just told my sister some of this and she said the same thing, "You know, it's like you're speaking fragments? I don't understand what you're telling me. Or maybe I'm just too dumb and have nothing to say to it."

I said that if you really think that having a baby (or two, or three, or whatever) WILL fix your desire for a kid, it's not going to work. You'll soon realize the burden of children and be stuck. Is that worth it? Absolutely not.

My dad had the same issue, he thought kids were easy. His parents told him to have a couple. He wanted some, and he looked at his sisters (my aunts) and said, "It'll be easy." Unfortunately, it wasn't. He got stuck and hated his life. Complained everyday.

Granted, there are a few people who DO love and are able to take care of children properly. Unfortunately, the bad outweighs the good (as in almost everything). Most people will be screwed if they truly think having kids will fix anything, they're not those types fit to take care of them to begin with.

Thank you for clearing that up, my head hasn't been on straight in the past months, normally I'd be able to decipher what you're saying. I've been accused of speaking in metaphors...which I do....to help people better understand what I'm saying...but they say it makes it all worse. Also, your sister said something similar because I am her. Just kidding. Can you imagine?

On topic:

And yes I agree, just because something can fix a small problem dosen't make it a...logical solution.

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hmm dont bring up the whole christian thing the bible is really just a guideline but people take it too much as absoloute rules. I myself am a Christian and I can just say this about life "Shit happens" you can't do anything about it and sometimes that stuff goes against the bible people were meant to adapt to changing situations and I belive that if the teenage parents are able to properly care for the child they should be allowed to do so. Even I wish I had a daughter sometimes yeah i'm a bit weird like that might be because of the manga

The best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies in teens is good sex education should be continued and taught in schools.Telling teens don't have sex want stop them they'll just finds ways to do it anyways.

The best way to educate kids is to do it for the parents or do proper education in schools. Not whats commonly done, explaining the techical facts, but not the consequences, thats a joke.
The whole only sex above 18 rule just gives more teen pregnancies. Its idiot.

Yeah I agree I see it everyday at my job the cycle won't stop until the parents stop being so scared discussing sex related issues.These young girls end up on welfare unfortunately and the cycle repeats itself and usually there children will become teen parents.

I see there was at least one teenaged parent weighing in, perhaps there were more that I didn't see.

I had my Abbi at 18, nearly 19. I walked out on her father three months before she was born. Yes, you read that right - I walked. He ordered me to give her up, which I was NOT prepared to do. So I walked, and haven't heard from him outside of a child support courtroom since. I'm in school, I've found a great guy who loves us terribly, and I work to support us.

To the poster (perhaps posters) who have said that we gave up our lives before we lived them - I didn't give up my life. I simply altered it. I had dreams of going away to school - I learned through being in college locally that I'd NEVER have hacked it away from home. I've not given up a thing - my life is BETTER because she's in it! ^.^

Are all teenagers prepared to be parents? No. But for those of us that are, we should salute each other! So to those that are, and do a good job, I salute you from one teen mom to another!

Teenage parents...

I have my own opinion on it, just like the rest of the world.

If the teenager has the money, the maturity, and the resources to actually take care another human being and STILL take care of everyday things, such as EDUCATION since they are still a teenager, I say, sure go ahead. Just hope that the daddy also will stick around and help out.

So, if BOTH parents have the money, the maturity, the resources, and the education to take care of another human being that will completely depend on THEM, then alright, go ahead.

I honestly think people should wait until they have a stable full time job (that's right, no PART TIME jobs) and have done all that they want to that doesn't include anyone they will have to always watch. Or hire someone to watch your own flesh and blood during one of the times they're the most impressionable.


What makes me upset about teenage pregnancies... Is that the teenagers will conceive the child then kill the poor dear. Irresponsibility is simply not acceptable on such a serious topic such as raising another human being.

Either be willing to take care of someone who can only suck, sleep, breathe, and soil nappies, or don't test your odds in the first place.

You can point out flaws in my opinion, you can say that it shouldn't be listened to because no matter what things will still happen.

I'm okay with that.


Teenage pregnancies shouldn't happen, and won't if the teenagers are educated and don't have temptation. They will ALWAYS have temptation, so I guess the education side had better hold its own.

Teachers shouldn't tell them "don't do it, but if you do, do it with protection". They don't tell them "don't drink and drive, but if you do, have a police scanner".

Doesn't that look like the same thing?


So that's what I have to say, take it as you will.

I think it's strange to count 17 and 18 as teenage pregnancy/

ffs.

This is largely a cultural question. For example, a 12 year old Mexican girl knows how to take care of a baby and run a household.

Humans natural have babies during their teen years because they CAN have babies during their teen years. It's in our genes. It is society which has attempted to change the natural order of things -- justifiably so.

In the Western industrialized world, it is much more a reflection of class differences. College bound middle class girls do not tend to become teen mothers. A poor lower class teen girl is more likely to become pregnant.

A lot of the teen mothers have a very short time frame. By this, I simply mean that they are not able to project the consequences of their actions into the future.

For example, many teens choose to go to college, realizing that they will incur considerable expense and delay earining a living and starting a family. They do this because they believe the long term benefits of this will consist of a better job and higher income over the course of their lifetime. They have a long time frame.

A person who has a short time frame cannot see any benefit in delaying gratification. If all you have to look foward to in life is a minimum wage job at Walmart with no benefits, why should you put off having kids.

Ultimately, the choice boils down to having kids when you are young, when you have the engergy but lack the maturity -- or having them when you get older, when you have the maturity, but lack the enerty.

HA HA HA.. if this won't make the difference clear. We need pics of all of those stages.

My former wife of mine and I had our first child when I was 25 and she was 23. If I had complete control over having a child, I would have had children at 35, and I'm only 36 now. But, she had a tremendous desire to have children and would have wanted to have children right after we married when she was 20 and I was 22. Luckily, I already had a steady job as an Architect, which I still do, and she also had a good job. We were also more than ready financially with our incomes and my parents' insistance on helping me out financially, which I will never stop being thankful for.
I had two children with her, who are 12 and 10 now, and she passed away two years ago. Now, with my current girlfriend, who is also 36 just like I am, I've told her that I don't want to have more children until I'm 40, and she is completely fine with that.
In conclusion, I think that it is much more wise to have children later on in life. And with that said, my opinion of most teenage parents could be better.

im just sick of people trying to tell me that its a baby--something we all associate with live, breathing, puke-spewing bundles of joy--when in fact it is a microscopic speck of cell. its not a baby. the two arent interchangeable. they need to stop it. >:|

Teenagers are raging hormones. Between the ages of 13 and 19 (and sometimes longer), sex is thought of often. The time of our lives when our bodies are ripe for sex and fertility is high, this is when we're told to not participate. Seems like a setup for failure to me.

If certain moral rules didn't make sex so taboo, perhaps there would be more acceptance and education on the subject. Perhaps if families weren't so messed up and the loving, extended family were more of a reality, then a teen pregnancy and subsequent child wouldn't be considered a tragedy, but a happily greeted new member of the family, surrounded by love.

We can all believe something differently about when life begins and let others believe what they do without derailing this thread.

its not about belief.
a zygote is not a baby. to equate the two is to say that a wheel is a car. or that a piece of blank paper is a work of art.
a zygote doesnt feel, think, talk, or actually do much other than fester in the womb until it actually becomes what most sane people identify as a baby.

to say a zygote is a baby, in short, is skipping quite a few significant steps. jumping the gun. counting chickens before they hatch. morphing one thing into another.