Is this the right forum? Move it please

Well, the thing is... I'm trying to make a nordic neighborhood, but it is just impossible when all the families that move in are, all of them, made with really dark skins. My neighborhood is getting darker and darker every time sims breed.
I would like to know if I can change the way the game chooses the skin tone, so I get more white sims. Just deleting the not white families one by one is not a thing I like to do. Especially when all my sims already befriended all and every one of the black sims out there
When I did my African neighborhood, I had no problems at all, white sims never generated. But when I try for white sims because that is what I need, I get... dark sims.
Can someone tell me if something can be done about that? Maybe I can get help from a modder

(I better do not try to do a blue or green sims neighborhood, I will die of boredom)

It doesn't solve your issue, but it could make it less of a problem: nordic neighbourhoods come in all nuances these days, at least where I live.

I'm more confused about the second part - I thought the game always spawned sims in all shades?

The game does not intrinsically include any provisions for race-segregated neighborhoods, so any generated sim will just be totally assrandom.

Get Twallan's master controller and edit their skins as they move in?
Get a mod that changes all the default skintones to eight flavors of
vanilla? (plain, french, cherry, philly, bean, strawberry, twist, and
swirl)

Uhm... pescado... there is a reason to be using your core mod and solving everything myself every time you screw things, instead of asking in that forum where you keep all your hungry crocodiles? Oh, yes, I'm AVOIDING you. So please stay away from me.

Now for Lenglel. Can I use Twallan's Master Controller with pescado fishy mod? By the name, I think it is a core mod, right?

Sory Anna, I forgot to answer you
My sims spawn in almost all shades, yes, all of them but "nordic white" skins. And that is exacly the one I need. Oh, I already have three fully black sims spawned at different times, but not even one to help me to make the nordic city.

You say you solve things screwed by pescado and you don't even know whether Twallan's mods work with pescado's mod?

Why is Rafe Weisz getting snippy with Pescado? All he did was explain that the game generates skin tones randomly. AM isn't what is causing the game to randomly select skin tones.

I, apparently, cannot spell today.

Wow. This entire thread is wow.

I would suggest against begging and choosing, Rafe, especially because you asked for help from a modder and lo and behold, one of the best modders we have here answered your question. That and your remark was pretty uncalled for...

You could make a concentration camp on the outskirts of town and put all the non-nordic sims in there.

I know you're joking around but this post is appalling. Such poor taste.

you can just turn of the story progression in the options tab. Then no new sims will spawn. I use it in my fantasy neighborhood so norms don't randomly spawn in it.

Because if you don't, your game is horribly broken and no one else is going to fix it? And what's wrong with hungry crocodiles, anyway? You'll never be an intrepid tomb explorer if a few hungry crocodiles can scare you that easily.

In any event, AwesomeMod doesn't include any provision for segregated neighborhoods like this either. Did you want one?

I seriously wonder how that can be, when - as Pescado stated - the games generates sims totally randomly. Unless you just added that to "lighten" the post.




And yeah, MdMXX, I agree with you... this thread has a a pretty nasty undertone.

Object lesson: folks, next time you want to play a racially segregated game, lie and pretend you're trying for nothing but green Sims and your neighborhood is constantly being invaded by fleshtones. The answer will be the same -- it's sadorandom, and the less you want to see a skintone, the more it will pop up in your game -- but you'll attract less wank in the process. Oh, and an official tsk for being rude to someone who took the time to give you an answer. If you're going to behave like that, you have no right complaining about MATY. Rubber, glue.

Unless somebody has something to say that contradicts Pescado's analysis, I'm going to consider this answered and threaten to lock the thread if said wank continues. Grrrrr.

Ehhh, it's mainly your fault for the failure of your aryan program.

In a modern world, segregration is possible only through the government/your sims. Aka, you should have been manually removing families or have had your sims burn down the new sims' houses instead of assuming that they wouldn't come!

Also, you need to think of a better title for your thead. Light vs Dark skin? Sounds like an awfully suspicious way of framing it.

Maybe you could try downloading/making some default CC skintones that are very, very GREEN across the board so that all sims spawned are GREEN shades.

Uncomfortable thread is uncomfortable.

I wish skin colors would be less dark. I have never seen actual humans with some of the skin tones I see.

You can always edit the default skins on the darker scale if you wanted but honestly while I favor pale skin there's nothing like variety.
Actually thinking about it theres not much room for variety in the existing defaults! EA need a kick up of the bottom!

I made a consentration camp in Sims 2 for the Aliens, I took over all Strangetown. It really was one of my nicer neighborhoods, but if you were strands of DNA from space, you were banished to the desert.

Its weird that we would totaly embrace strands of DNA from space as part of our home, and yet call it weird when someone finds some skin hair combinations unapealing.

Truth is that eveybody favors diffrent human types whether it's pale, asian or black but nobody is allowed to say they have a least favorate because of racial implications. Personally I find pale skin very attractive but not darker skin (especially tanned....) yet I find large muscled white men to be a major turn off but go weak in the knees if your a big muscled ebony black man.
I also think that black men make far better athletes and out do white people at running and basket ball.
Thats just what I think and is it a rasist statement? I don't think so but I'm sure there'll be someone who's offended by it.
Aliens aren't classed in with human so its okay to say you love the red skin but kill off sims with the green! Same with animals, I can say I hate poodles but it's still race hate (against the poor poodle anyway....),

What has me worried is that most of us have seen the Dominant-recessive chart and we know about outcrossing, and it seems that the more rare conbinations in RL seem to be more frequent in the Sims.

If I was weird today and said something like light skin and blonde hair is unappealing, and hoped to not see that again, what are the "odds" that I would? ummmm I know the answer, if I removed them all the sims left would continue to be dark or medium, but no pale white, but on the other hand if you try the same thing with black, you get called a jerk and get bombed with black skinned red haired sims. Weird randomness. Real uncool.

The game does not generate sims with any particular favoritism towards "realistic" combinations, and skin color/hair color setups are basically completely independent of each other, which is why you will get very odd-looking sims of combinations that are extremely unusual in real life, such as aforementioned red/dark combinations that were endemic in TS2, too. Thus, such combinations appear with extremely high frequency because the game considers them to be just as likely as any other combination, as it does not understand that such people are very uncommon in the real world due to the effects of interlinked and dominant/recessive genetics. I personally do not consider this a significant issue to be worth exerting effort on (especially since hair color genetics simply do not really exist in TS3), and since the original poster has no desire to use my stuff anyway, there's no reason to add it as a requested feature.

Although if he doesn't like it, there *IS* a "Racist" trait in development. Just because your neighborhood is equal opportunity and unbiased doesn't mean your sims have to be. We make sims of the people we know...and some of those people are racists.

There has been a prejudicial knee jerk reaction to the OP's quesion about trying to create a specific society and I doubt anyone would have said anything if he wanted to create an all black or all asian or all green hood. We don't know why the OP wants to create a Nordic hood (where the vast majority of the population is light skinned) and so shouldn't necessarily assume the worst and then put them on trial for it. Interesting that people who claim to want tolerance are often the least tolerant of all. The OP just wanted to know how to create something -- they weren't preaching racist doctrine.

Half the people on this site use a mod that has an age 12 woohoo option and we don't start screaming Pedo! everytime the mod is mentioned (probably because most of us give players the benefit of the doubt that they are not utilizing that option).

On the EA site there was a thread about what skin tone players made their sims-- and the majority of the posters claimed to make caucasian sims. Many of the posters also said they made Sims the same skin color as themselves (White/Black/Asian). The OP said she was hispanic but never listed if she was white or black or green, completely unaware that Hispanic is not a race but an ethnicity--Hispanics come in all skin tones (except green and blue). So what was more offensive about the thread? That those players tended to create Sims in their own image or favored light skinned Sims? Or that racial predjudice was being examined in game by ignoramuses that didn't know the difference between race (genetic traits) and ethnicity (cultural traits)?

It's the player's game, it's the player's choice.

If one disabled story progression, and used a hack that killed all genetic mutations, one could achieve the effect the topic starter desires. A story progression mod that disables all immigration could also be used, again with the hack that disables all genetic mutations. Then one will just need to makeover the NPCs to match the town, and Viola. One will need to edit the NPCs every time a new one spawns, but one needs to makeover residents whenever one ages, so no real problem there.

Since the game does not consider 2nd cousins to be related it is unlikely that one will have a problem with inbreeding even if you play the neighborhood for a lengthy period of time. So, the only problem will be finding an anti-genetic mutation mod (its a simple xml mod, but I don't think anyone has updated one for LN, so you should probably look into making it yourself. Its simple though. I started using one after I tired of having 'Irish' looking biological children from Japanese parents.), and a no immigration story progression mod. Twallan's might have an option, but I'm not sure of that. Awesomemod used to have that option, but now does not.

It could be caused by your monitor. I had an old monitor and rarely played sims with dark skin because I couldn't see their facial expressions, but when I got a new monitor everything was suddenly brighter including my sims.