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How does this basement peek out of the ground?

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17th Jun 2011, 07:23 PM	How does this basement peek out of the ground? #1
unghie Original Poster Test Subject Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 37 Thanks: 72 in 1 Posts 2 Achievements	I was looking at domangcop's blog and I found this house: http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnail...ntCategoryNo=11 How does one execute such a basement?
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17th Jun 2011, 07:25 PM	#2
HystericalParoxysm Administrator Join Date: Tommorow Posts: 21,337 Thanks: 332023 in 214 Posts 46 Achievements View My Journal	Image link is busted. Can you link to the page it's on instead?

18th Jun 2011, 12:06 AM	#3
Volvenom Scholar Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,537 Thanks: 647 in 23 Posts 7 Achievements View My Journal	Isn't that the guy with the walk-in-basement using the basement tool?
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18th Jun 2011, 08:59 AM

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Image link is busted. Can you link to the page it's on instead?

http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnail...ntCategoryNo=11

18th Jun 2011, 11:14 AM	#5
Volvenom Scholar Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,537 Thanks: 647 in 23 Posts 7 Achievements View My Journal	All those pictures and they are all of the front! Makes me think the back is no good oh no that was only my slow pc lol. Isn't this the house we picked up the open basement technic from: http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnail...ntCategoryNo=11 You can build as many basements you want below each other, but here he has the ground close to the wall. Too bad these guys don't post on english sites.
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18th Jun 2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by unghie

I was looking at domangcop's blog and I found this house:

http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnail...ntCategoryNo=11

How does one execute such a basement?

To have your basement "peak" out of the ground like that requires three quite basic steps.

I - build your basement where you want it to be (making sure the ground is flat)

II - use the cheat "constrainFloorElevation False"

III - use the lower terrain tool to drag the ground below the height of the basement wall

(optional IV - use "moveobjects on" to add windows)

Oh and always remember use "constrainFloorElevation True" once you're done messing with CFE!

Please IGNORE this post - Read on for actual solution

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18th Jun 2011, 01:09 PM	#7
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	I just went into the game to try this... I still can't reproduce the effect in that picture. The top of the wall becomes crooked too and I can't find a way to straighten it without bringing the ground back up again.
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18th Jun 2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Inge Jones

I just went into the game to try this... I still can't reproduce the effect in that picture. The top of the wall becomes crooked too and I can't find a way to straighten it without bringing the ground back up again.

Ok, I'll investigate! To the mystery bus...oh no wait...just to the sims 3, silly me :D

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18th Jun 2011, 02:47 PM	#9
Tee Hee Hee minion of moderating Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 241 Thanks: 1005 in 3 Posts 7 Achievements	Ok, so this is possible, not in a neat, elegant or simple way though... I will get a quick picture tutorial up soon (I promise) Just to prove it is possible and as a sneak peak - To show a more elaborate version of what this technique can do -
	"Freedom is just chaos, with better lighting" "He's turned his life around. He used to be depressed and miserable. Now he's miserable and depressed." My Humble Simblr of Bizarre Buildings
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18th Jun 2011, 02:56 PM	#10
missroxor Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 1864 in 19 Posts 13 Achievements View My Journal	OMG....the bending skills of that builder(s).....I have no words he/she's a frickin genius. I suddenly feel like a complete novice. That's it, as soon as the little one goes for a nap I'm gonna have to investigate....but have a feeling I'm just not smart enough to figure it out Edit: Beat to it by teehee

18th Jun 2011, 06:05 PM	#11
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	Hmm I don't understand how you get a roof on it.
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18th Jun 2011, 06:39 PM	#12
missroxor Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 1864 in 19 Posts 13 Achievements View My Journal	I find the link that Volvenom posted fascinating. I've been working on trying to re-create it but I'm going round in circles, lol. I'm having issues with the simplest thing: for some reason I can't get pool windows to work anymore. Are they working fine for everyone else or is it just me? I figure the back bit doesn't look like pool water, more like pond water but they must use 1 tile of pool or fountain to get the windows in....I think. I tried just flooding the basement but it looked pants...will keep trying (In the mean time if anybody know how to do this please put me out of my misery ) Edit: I did think about downloading it so I could just reverse engineer it but it downloads as an application rather than a sims3pack and when I try to open it my security checker goes nuts. I scanned it and it said there were no viruses or anything but I'm just wary of opening stuff up from sites that I don't know, especially when it makes my computer freak! 2nd Edit: Actually, I managed to do a flooded basement area for around the back and it worked fine. My current version is a bit messy, I'll try to do a neater version and post a pic. Screenshots
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18th Jun 2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Inge Jones

Hmm I don't understand how you get a roof on it.

The roof is on top of artificially lowered wall, same height as a foundation. That's why the rocks are used to cover the back where you can't place the wall due to the stairs

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Originally Posted by missroxor

I find the link that Volvenom posted fascinating. I've been working on trying to re-create it but I'm going round in circles, lol. I'm having issues with the simplest thing: for some reason I can't get pool windows to work anymore. Are they working fine for everyone else or is it just me?

I figure the back bit doesn't look like pool water, more like pond water but they must use 1 tile of pool or fountain to get the windows in....I think. I tried just flooding the basement but it looked pants...will keep trying (In the mean time if anybody know how to do this please put me out of my misery

)

Edit: I did think about downloading it so I could just reverse engineer it but it downloads as an application rather than a sims3pack and when I try to open it my security checker goes nuts. I scanned it and it said there were no viruses or anything but I'm just wary of opening stuff up from sites that I don't know, especially when it makes my computer freak!

This was explored and explained in this thread I think, hope it helps!

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"He's turned his life around. He used to be depressed and miserable. Now he's miserable and depressed."
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18th Jun 2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee Hee Hee

This was explored and explained in this thread I think, hope it helps!

Wow, thanks Teehee! That thread looks awesome! My pc was broke in January when that thread was being discussed so I guess I missed more than I realised

19th Jun 2011, 07:10 AM	#15
unghie Original Poster Test Subject Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 37 Thanks: 72 in 1 Posts 2 Achievements	Can't wait to see TeeHee's tut

19th Jun 2011, 08:20 AM	#16
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	Ok... I could do it with a "foundation" or lowered wall above, but doesn't this defeat the object a little as it still uses up an above-ground level and of course still suffers from the minimum 4-click height above ground? We might just as well use just a foundation to make the half submerged basement, as it does everything else required, including accepting windows with "moveobjects" cheat.
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19th Jun 2011, 05:06 PM	#17
QBUILDERZ Captain Louie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,823 Thanks: 60092 in 137 Posts 34 Achievements View My Journal	To me, personally, it looks like this: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=412319 With a stage foundation placed over it; the bushes cover where the gaps are probably located. I'll test it out in a second. Changed my mind - I think Tee Hee Hee is actually right :P
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19th Jun 2011, 05:13 PM	#18
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	So that basement we started by talking about was never made by the basement tool at all, it;s just a foundation?
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19th Jun 2011, 05:15 PM	#19
QBUILDERZ Captain Louie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,823 Thanks: 60092 in 137 Posts 34 Achievements View My Journal	See, I still wonder how it is accessible without extreme CFE inside of the mountain. Has anyone downloaded the lot to check it out closer?
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19th Jun 2011, 07:13 PM	#20
Tee Hee Hee minion of moderating Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 241 Thanks: 1005 in 3 Posts 7 Achievements	Ok, this is a bit picture heavy so I'll put it in a spoiler If any of that isn't as clear as mud please let me know and I'll try to explain :D
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19th Jun 2011, 08:07 PM	#21
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	I understood it, but I am not sure I see the benefit of this over using a foundation? I think it would only be preferable if you didn't have to have the extra wall above, if you could have the ground appearing to be on top of the roof without rock camouflage. And then there are the stairs half way up the wall to make it look weird... Thanks anyway for the tut
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19th Jun 2011, 08:20 PM	#22
QBUILDERZ Captain Louie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,823 Thanks: 60092 in 137 Posts 34 Achievements View My Journal	The only benefit is being able to place a window. With a foundation you either need two windows or place a wall - however, with the wall, the inside will become distorted as well. It is really an issue of practicality vs. aesthetics (that are quite odd to begin with)
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19th Jun 2011, 08:25 PM	#23
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	Can you not place a window on a foundation wall with moveobjects?
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19th Jun 2011, 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inge Jones

Can you not place a window on a foundation wall with moveobjects?

You can, absolutely...but the height of it is determined by the ground level on one side

Therefore you can't have windows which have the bottom 1/2 (for example) completely below ground.

Also the benefit of this is not having to double wall to hide the change in elevation as there isn't one (in the same place at least!)

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20th Jun 2011, 12:01 AM	#25
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,879 Thanks: 7430 in 17 Posts 18 Achievements	Oh that's a good point!
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