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19th Jan 2012, 07:25 AM
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Vampires and Werewolves? Oh my. #1 |
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Yazoo
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Alright, here is the question I need to ask. Ready? Set! GO! Alright, seriously now. I have an awesome household, three sisters. I want to make two of them Vampires and one a Werewolf, my only concern is: One day this wolf came over, now I know like four, they won't stop coming over. But anyway, the female wolf came over, and of course I greeted her, and then she began to bark at the door and in her little thought bubble, it had a coffin (Yes, I am always prepared of the raid of non stop biting vampires...My chick married a Vampire, and she went and bit everyone at the wedding...Yeah, that is why I said that >.>). So if I make two of the sisters Vampires, and one of them a Werewolf, will they go all out and try to kill each other? Or is it safe to have that go on? OR is it just best to just make them all one or the other? Because like for awesome reasons...I am in love with Vampires, but I've never had a Werewolf sim. Thank you for your time! Nevermore Raven |
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"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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19th Jan 2012, 09:41 AM
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Tempscire
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Vampires and werewolves can coexist, barring any preexisting animosities between each as Sims. (By which I mean, Sims do not become enemies by becoming different creatures, but if they happened to be enemies prior to transformation, they would continue to be so. Or continue as friends, or whatever their relationships were.) I've had a household of vamps and weres married and related to each other before with no problems. Actual wolves in my experience are often kind of prickly in general. ETA: also, EA is lame and all the creatures are too neutered to do anything as interesting as setting out to murder each other on the basis of fantastic racism, or for any reason at all. |
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19th Jan 2012, 10:53 AM
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Aegagropilon
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All werewolf sims eventually gain a 0/10/10/10/0 personality over the course of their transformations. For some sims this is a huge change... while for some, like born-in-game sim Sonny Ray, it only means about two points total difference. The 0 nice points makes them quick to fight if antagonized, but the 10 outgoing counteracts a lot of the characteristic grouchy sim jerkassery. (Both of my werewolf sims have 100% positive reputations in the karma system introduced in Apartment Life.) Edit: So unless your vampires are particularly antagonistic, they should be able to coexist just fine with a werewolf. |
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Last edited by Aegagropilon : 19th Jan 2012 at 12:32 PM.
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19th Jan 2012, 12:41 PM
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ginrouken
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As Tempscire put, out of the box, all the creatures in the game come too neutered and are far too sociable with every other species to do any real damage to relationships or put Sim's lives in danger. That said, if that's the story you wanna tell in your neighborhood, nothing stops you from creating animosity and fanatical interspecies bigotry on purpose!  You can make your members of different species fight until they're enemies, and they'll start to autonomously go at each other's throats after a while. (technically just because they're Sim enemies, not because they actually recognize the other creatures as hostile, but nobody has to know :P)
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19th Jan 2012, 01:35 PM
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M.M.A.A.
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as with the vamps biting other sims, that'll create a N'Hood full of vampires, my older thread may help you: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=457484 |
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19th Jan 2012, 05:52 PM
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Julieryc
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There is a no personality change mod for werewolves if you want it. I use this one: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?p=1595032 and I believe Squinge also has one. (I know there's also another mod that limits the amount of change but still causes some change towards that 0/10/10/10/0 personality, but I don't know where that one is. I don't like my sims changing personality due to a supernatural status, so I can verify that the one I linked to works in my game without problems; I don't know for sure about the others.) But to agree with everyone else, in TS2, it's too hard to make anyone enemies overall, let alone vampires and werewolves. I like that there's no preset enmity (it lets you build your own stories), but I wish it was easier to make Sims hate one another or to preset them as enemies and have them stay that way, instead of having to fiddle with SimBlender or SimPE. |
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19th Jan 2012, 06:53 PM
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Yazoo
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Well, I also do not want my sim to go on a binge of eating little kids -.-" I have read up on that, and I am like, YAY! There will be a butt load of toddlers dying, at my Werewolf's hand -.-" But thank you, this did help a lot. I can have a hairy beast in my home, and two silky smooth Vampires  Oh heck yeah. And I will look at your thread and the other mod thing  Thank you ^.^
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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19th Jan 2012, 07:14 PM
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SingleClawDesigns
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I love at it like this if a werewolf, a vampire, and a ghost can peacefully cohabit in the syfy show "Being Human" then it's certainly possible on sims 2. |
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19th Jan 2012, 08:59 PM
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Darby
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I'd consider the source of that info "unreliable", at best. Pure nonsense. Probably confusing the fact that wolves, in general (not necessarily the Leader of the Pack), visit lots with infants and toddlers more frequently than other lots. Wolves don't hurt toddlers either, any more than werewolves do, though. In fact, a visiting (greeted) wolf will likely just get hugged. |
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19th Jan 2012, 10:35 PM
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Julieryc
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Yeah, I don't know where you got the "werewolves eat kids and toddlers!" from, it's definitely not true. There's no way in-game for sims to kill one another, even if the Sim is a supernatural. (I think there was a vampires bite to kill hack at some point, but I'm not sure if it was ever updated to be compatible with AL - and again, that's a hack, not vanilla basegame. AFAIK, there's no "werewolves savage to kill" hack.) The Cowplant's the closest you're going to get to Sim-murder; allowing anything more would probably have raised the game rating to M (17+.) Also, only teens and above can become werewolves, witches, or vampires. The "savage" interaction will turn a teen/YA/adult into a werewolf and make them furious with the wolf, but it won't hurt or kill them. Slightly OT: Singleclawdesigns, if you like the SyFy show, you might like the BBC "Being Human," as it's the original. Just in case you didn't know about it.
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20th Jan 2012, 08:51 AM
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Yazoo
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>.> Well, I am just saying that I read it. But ahem, yes, moving along. Okay, like for some reason I have now ran into a gazillion different wolves, and none of them have glowing eyes. In which right now, I find that a good thing, FOR NOW. Because my home has become Vampire central. Its becoming like my old neighborhood, where everyone was a vampire, and all of them were chicks. o.o! But anyway, I will look more into this. And you get witches in the Expansion Pack: Freetime, right? |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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20th Jan 2012, 08:55 AM
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KKiryu007Joker
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I love Vampires and Werewolves! You get witches in Apartment Life, they are one of the biggest supernatural groups. Genies come in Freetime though. | |
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I'm a graduate of the Harvard business school. I travel quite extensively. I lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. I've seen the EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN TIMES, AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT. |
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20th Jan 2012, 01:25 PM
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maxon
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Yeah, toddlers are indestructible. Nothing kills them. |
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Polgannon Project Seriously, I'm still working on it. |
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20th Jan 2012, 03:33 PM
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Darby
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The Leader of the Pack generally shows up at night, although I've seen him out during the day sometimes. (Usually because he showed up late, and remained beyond dawn.) Odds of him showing increase on lots where there are lots of trees, and I think weeds help too, if you're willing to have a weedy lot. Just FYI: Where the regular wolves come in three colors - black, white, and grey - the Leader of the Pack is always dark brown. He's a bit shaggier and stockier than the regular wolves (which all have identical body shapes, and identical personalities, by the way), and has a shorter muzzle. Not that you won't recognize him from the glowing yellow eyes alone, but I've seen evidence that some players look at the regular wolves and wonder which one might be the LotP. I'm not 100% sure his eyes always glow during the day, and that might be part of why people get confused and have trouble recognizing that he's distinctly different from the other wolves. Good luck! |
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21st Jan 2012, 05:33 PM
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Yazoo
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Well, I know life three wolves now. And one is a pup. I was like: "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" And I taught her how to Shake >.> I am teaching wolves things, oh yeah! But I haven't seen the pack leader. Is the Pack Leader a different color from the rest? The reason I am asking is because I was playing, and all of the wolves that I've met have been grey and white. The other wolf was black with a little grey. Or does that mean there are two different colored wolves? o.O |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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21st Jan 2012, 06:20 PM
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M.M.A.A.
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i thought the tombstone of l and d did, as in electrocution. | |
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Please, call me 'mmaa', saves time. | My (Mini-) Website: http://eaxislostandfound.weebly.com/ My livestream! Learn how to use your neighborhood (terrains) efficiently! Avoid neighborhood corruption! Playing NPCs and Adding them to Households |
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21st Jan 2012, 06:48 PM
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Julieryc
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Witches come with Apartment Life. Also, if you happen to want supernaturals without going through the "fun" of finding the Leader of the Pack, you can use the BatBox, SimTransformer, or another cheat to make one sim a werewolf, and then have them savage anyone else you want to become a werewolf. |
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22nd Jan 2012, 07:11 AM
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Yazoo
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Sooooooooooooooooo I saw the Pack Leader, and his name is Jubel. He is sooooooo cute, and big o.O But anyway. I didn't get "nipped" at, which I was like...Whew. But yes! ITS HAPPENED, but for some reason he did get aggressive with Linx (One of my Sims) and then also got aggressive with Lily (Who is another Sims character, sister to Linx, AND she is a Vampire) Sooooooooooooooooooooo is this normal behavior for the Pack Leader? Or...Has he lost his mind, and wants my Van Dawn family for dinner/breakfast? |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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23rd Jan 2012, 12:50 AM
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Darby
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Apparently, you didn't read the post directly above this of yours that I have quoted here. Quote:
I'm entirely confused here. Your sim didn't get nibbled, but "its happened", and now he's savaging family members? It IS normal for werewolves (who are not called Pack Leaders, by the way - just werewolves. The Leader of the Pack is the wolf that nibbles human sims, turning them into werewolves.) to Savage other sims. I think. I'm not actually sure that's autonomous behaviour, but if that's what you're seeing, I suppose it must be. Which would make sense, since vampires can autonomously bite other sims, so why not werewolves? |
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23rd Jan 2012, 06:48 AM
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Yazoo
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Okay, soooooooooooooo I just saw that. And No. Not what I was saying. I said, that I saw the pack leader. But he was very hostile towards the family members, including the one that gave him, "love". He began to bark at them, and got very hostile towards the family. So, I was wondering if that was normal, that was all. I was odd too, because I had my one sim all cuddling up with her wife, and then I happened to look down and see these glowing eyes...I was like: "Just grand its here and it wants to eat us alive!" No not really, I mean it was just odd. But thank you for letting me know. But for some reason Jubel (The Pack Leader) he looked more black than dark brown >.> -.-" |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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23rd Jan 2012, 06:16 PM
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Darby
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Any "stray" that visits the lot (including dogs, cats, wolves, LotP) can show aggression toward sims, if they don't get off on the right foot. This is especially likely if the animal's personality is Independent and Aggressive. An attempt to interact with a stray with these traits will be rejected if the animal isn't in the mood to be interacted with. I.e., they reject treats if not hungry, petting if Social is already high, and playing if Play motive is already high. So yes, the fact that the LotP behaved aggressively is certainly within the realm of "normal". All wolves, including the LotP, are Independent and Aggressive. |
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24th Jan 2012, 06:19 AM
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Yazoo
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Hmm, that is true. Some strays were nice, and some were...Well, not so much. I do get what your saying, and it seems that is in the normal. I also did see like a mod on this site, that allows you to be both. BUT I thought that may look weird... >.> But it was interesting, I will say  Darby thank you so much for clarifying things up with me And FYI, I sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo didn't get LotP at first, then I realized what it was, hahahah -.-" go me :P |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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24th Jan 2012, 11:25 PM
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Darby
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You're welcome. Quote:
To what are you referring when you say "a mod on this site that allows you to be both"? Both what? |
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25th Jan 2012, 06:00 PM
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Yazoo
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Both a Werewolf and Vampire >.> And the mod is on this site o.O |
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"Queen of the Damned seeks knight in shining piercings for pleasure, pain and purring"--Scary Mary from the Urbz: Sims In The City
"A Famous Explorer once said: 'The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.'"--Lara Croft from Tomb Raider 2013
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25th Jan 2012, 06:33 PM
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Darby
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 Werewolves can be bitten by vampires, and vampires can be savaged by werewolves, either of which will result in a vampire/werewolf hybrid. Why would one need a mod for this?
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