How often do you get a Romance sim that wants to get engaged to one or more of his lovers, and has a secondary aspiration that is something besides family. I have a Romance/knowledge sim, and he wants to get engaged to a couple of his lovers, and at the same time, he fears it.

At the moment Bella Bachelor (ie the former Bella Goth, from Talia's cleaned up Pleasantview) wants to get engaged to Don Lothario - her daughter's ex-husband! I've interpreted that as meaning that she's obsessed with him and thinks that he's the man of her dreams and they're meant to be together. She also keeps rolling wants to cook and/or learn to cook, so I guess she wants to be able to keep house for him once they're married... :-)

I get this too. I also sometimes get sims who roll the getting struck by lightning want, and yet have rolled the fear too. Clearly split personality disorder!

One of my romance sim's LTW is six grandchildren 0_o

My sims with the secondary knowledge trait often roll the want and fear of getting struck by lightning, as well as [werewolf] howls wants and fears. Weird. They'll also get the want and fear of meeting Bigfoot.

Knowledge sims can sometimes act like family sims, for example, they will sometimes want to have a baby, get engaged and even get married (duh!).

It was mentioned before that Knowledge and Popularity are great matches for family sims.



Was his aspiration family sims at first? Did you THEN change it to romance, because that might be the reason, all you need to do is re-roll the LTW with a mod/hack.

Anyway, its great to see some romance sims that want to be committed.

Nothing makes a Sim gross, when they are a Romance Sim and they want to kiss their step-mother. Disturbing. o.O But usually my Romance Sims, fear always getting engaged to the person they just recently fell in love with.

I highly doubt it, thought her 2nd aspiration could be family but I don't remember I'll have to check that

My Romance sim was Romance from the start, and I chose knowledge as his secondary. It was so much fun to play him on the business lot, because he was pretty easy to please, and I could see some drama brewing due to him flirting with his customers.

It's not unusual for my Romance sims to have their entire wants panel full of marry/engaged wants, with corresponding fears in the fear panel. Unless you lock them, they roll away faster than other wants most of the time.

If a Romance sim with a lot of lovers rolls wants to marry the same lover repeatedly - I say, lock that puppy and let the drama begin. Alternatively, you could have a Romance sim act impulsively on a marriage want during a date, and live to regret it, or to live up to it. (That's essentially what I'm doing with my Billy Ghote, who is giving me some nice chewy character stuff.)

And by knowledge and popularity, I meant sims, not as secondary aspirations. Just to clear that up.

It sounds like the secondary is "conflicting" in a way with the primary. Knowledge Sims do roll the want to get engaged and get married, and the have a baby want rolls up occasionally (just not as often as Family Sims.) So the Knowledge part is making the Sim want to get engaged/married, but the Romance part is making the Sim fear it.

I've noticed other want/fear combos in my game from having something other than knowledge primary and then the knowledge secondary. I've seen a Fortune/Knowledge Sim roll the want and the fear of being hit by lightning (Knowledge Sims want to be hit and other Aspirations fear it. Knowledge Sims want a family member/themselves be abducted by aliens, other Aspirations fear it. Knowledge Sims want to meet Bigfoot, and the other Aspirations fear it, so I had a Family/Knowledge Sim want and fear meeting Bigfoot.

Oh I might do that... one of his wants is to get engaged to a townie who happens to be a Family sim... think I should lock this want?

Jessie Pilferson in my normal Pleasantview neighborhood has rolled to get engaged to Alexander Goth twice. Once while he was in college (then she cheated on him with one of his frat brothers, breaking the engagement and driving Alex to drop out), and once again recently. He's much older than her now, but she still sees herself okay with putting a ring on it. However, Alexander is positively bonkers. Jessie is a pathological liar. They're each other's poison.

Also, Theo Fleurada in Middleground rolled a want to be engaged to one of the Downtownie Slobs, which was weird. Fulfilled it anyway.

I only have up to OFB (too cheap and I don't want to update all my mods), so no secondaries.

Last edited by Fivey : 12th Jun 2012 at 07:56 PM.

A good way to get romance sims engaged is to make them have a dream date. Sometimes they get the want to get engaged while they are still on the date. I made one of my couples (both romance sims) get engaged during their date and I made them get married right after the date ended. Then I sent them to the closet to try for a baby and it was successful.

Sounds pretty cool! Anyway, I hope you do get the rest of the expansion packs someday, when they start selling really cheap on ebay. Gardening and fishing are fun to watch, and a great way to get more food points without having to order food all the time.

It has happend for me too, though the romance aspiration is very rare in my game when I play my custom ´hood. I remember once when I played the Pleasantview townie Ricky Cormier, who had almost 10 lovers, after his graduation from college. His "favorite" lover was still in college, but all of a sudden he rolled the want to get married to her. That was a bit strange since they were not even engaged and you can´t marry a playable college student either... I think this has happend other times too, but it´s pretty rare. I have, however, NEVER had a romance sim roll a want to have a baby without a secondary family aspiration.

Many Romance sims are in love with love and are kidding themselves that each one is The One. You meet people like this all the time in real life. The confusion between Romance (the exciting stage of falling in love, when you're obsessing on each other and doing the do-you-don't-you dance) and True Love (necessary not only to sustain a marriage long enough to raise children but to successfully negotiate things like who does the dishes and get past that annoying thing he does when he's eating) in our culture doesn't help.

Even Mary Munny, who never had a secondary aspiration and has been merrily dating all over Drama Acres since the day she stepped out of CAS, has started rolling wants to get married, if the current young fella is too much like the last young fella and she gets bored (it's never a want to marry the one she's with at that moment, and it rolls away fast). I keep thinking I need to hook her up with someone in her own lifestage, but somehow they never appear in a good position in the phone book when I arrange them by chemistry. I'm always having people who are fresh out of college rolling wants to get married to the person they're dating, even when the date is still in college and can't. The prohibition against marriage has been lifted for them and they want to get on with it. At that point you can decide to lock it, or to forego the rest of the date's college education, ask him to move in, and do the marriage. I've had family sims - notably Sparrow Hawkins (Romance secondary) and Luis Iana (started as Pleasure; changed to Family with a Pleasure secondary) who never rolled the want to get engaged in college at all, but wanted to get married as soon as they graduated. I gave them character reasons for deferring the commitment.

Stop thinking of wants like this as belonging solely to certain aspirations. Very few wants are actually limited to a particular aspiration; they're just more likely to roll for some than for others, and probabilities are adjusted again when a secondary is added. And the major life wants - get engaged, get married, have baby - are, like date wants, dependent on circumstances, not aspiration. Over and over I see people looking at certain wants and combinations of wants and pronouncing them "Weird" when in fact they're well within the parameters of probability.

Inappropriate LTWs, however, are a glitch and should be addressed; especially if they change mid-game with no corresponding aspiration change. But remember that many LTWs are available to more than one aspiration. Only Family sims (whether the aspiration is primary or secondary) ever roll wants for Golden Weddings, but both Pleasure and Romance sims roll wants to become Celebrity Chefs.

True. It's just so funny though, because Romance sims are known for fearing marriage and any other sort of commitment. And I noticed that Jason Greenman's LTW in Riverblossom Hills is to reach Golden Anniversary. Is it a glitch, or was he just made that way? I do know that a lot of Downtownies do have some rather inappropriate LTWs, like a Popularity sim who wants to become a Mad Scientist, or a Pleasure sim who has a Family LTW... forgot what it was, but the sim in question was one of the Tricou bastards, and I think most if not all of them have inappropriate LTWs.

That may be so in your game. The LTWs of downtownies, like their names, are randomly generated on creation. All of my Tricou bastards and brought-in townies have had appropriate aspirations. If this sort of thing is common in your game something's wrong.

I had a glitch once, long ago when I first joined, that affected the wants of lots of my sims, and I never tracked it down. It caused graduates to lose their extra want slots and scrambled LTWs. Since I didn't know enough to have backups at that time, and since the condition appeared to be random, happened offstage, and couldn't be tested for, I had to settle for fixing the wants slots and LTWs with the batbox, retraining my affected sims (many of whom acted like sims fresh out of CAS instead of like themselves - since it preferentially targeted pregnant women this was the effect that hurt the most), and adopting good neighborhood hygiene. I clear my caches every time I play now, and haven't had a recurrence since, knock wood.

I've read in the Sims wiki that the Tricou bastards all have specific LTWs, like becoming Criminal Mastermind, which aren't Pleasure LTWs(though I could be mistaking). For example, http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Loren_Teens. There must have been some kind of special programming, since I don't think Pleasure sims generally want to marry off six kids. Then again, the Tricou kids aren't all that 'normal'.

The wiki is wrong on this point, I promise you. Also, it didn't used to say that. When I was first looking into the Tricous and found their wiki page, numbers were given rather than those names - I don't know where in the game data those names are found - and no LTWs were given for them. Somebody came along and edited it, thinking he knew more than he did. This glitch may be commoner with the Tricous than with other sims, or it may be a very common glitch among townies; but you only need one counterexample to demonstrate that it is not true as a blanket statement.

My "goth boy" wants 50 dream dates; my "skater boy" wants to be a prestidigitator, my "Asian boy" wants to be a celebrity chef, my "black boy" wants 50 first dates, and of the girls one wants to be a celebrity chef (but is doing nothing about it) and I don't remember what the other, whose aspiration has been changed to Fortune, wanted originally, but it was nothing to cause surprise. And this certainly isn't something that got fixed in mods, because when the first Tricou came in I didn't have any. I barely had custom clothes.

An interesting sidelight, however - that prestidigitator want? Wasn't possible till I added Freetime. My Tricous were all generated well before I installed Freetime, too. So something happened at some point between his generation and his coming to college to give him that want. It may have been the same process that gave him and other townies generated prior to Freetime random club memberships. It would be interesting to know.

That's weird... I will hafta check again, but I'm sure that is how they were made. Very, very odd.

The Downtownies do in fact have inappropriate LTW's (example)
Cancer family sim DT wants too be mad scientist the one wearing the bowling outfit
I know there are others that have some too.As for the Tricou Teens I never use them so I only know they are all pleasure with different zodiac signs.Not trying too cause an issue it's been that way sense Nightlife was released.

All I can tell you is what happened in my game. I certainly haven't checked the LTWs of every downtownie out there; just that all the ones I know about are fine and I haven't done anything to them.