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Theme Seasons and Celebrations - posted on 1st Oct 2017 at 1:52 PM
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Mad Poster
#26 Old 15th Sep 2017 at 10:02 PM
Now I'm not opposed to making money, not at all, but that's what Patreon is for.

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Theorist
#27 Old 15th Sep 2017 at 10:57 PM
I think the problem is you're not really supposed to be making money off if it at all considering it's EA's game. If it were MY game I wouldn't be happy about people being forced to pay OTHER people to enjoy a game I made.
Inventor
#28 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GrijzePilion
Is it telling that I don't know what you mean by that?


YEAH! hahahaha most people don't like it when you squeeze from the middle because then they have to try and push all the toothpaste from the end once the top part empties...

Anyway yeah I got nothing against creators wanting donations. I gave a donation to a simmer for his last skin set, I prefer that to Adfly. Perhaps if Adfly didn't try to install crap on my computer...

<---(My avatar is my self-sim and me!) If you want to see my sims creations/families/pictures/available sims visit here: https://mysimcreationsblog.wordpress.com/ As I will no longer be very active on teh forums! :D
Theorist
#29 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 12:43 AM
I think asking for donations should be the only legal avenue people can take in terms of profit from a video game. EA needs to amend their ToS and EULA, and if this is already in there, then they need to fucking crack down on places that aren't even subtle about making large amounts of profit. Especially by exploiting site visitors by forcing them through adfly links or imposing lengthy unnecessary wait times for anyone not willing to shell out some monthly cash. And calling it a "donation" doesn't make it look any less like a purchase if it's the only way to acquire said item, even if it makes a tidy legal loophole :\

But maybe this is just my opinion.
Instructor
Original Poster
#30 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 1:01 AM Last edited by Averex : 24th Sep 2017 at 4:39 PM.
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Originally Posted by simmer22
^Adfly seems to be mainly a TS3 and TS4 thing. Nowadays you an practically live on making blogs with advertising of various kinds, so I'm not surprised. I've only seen a very small number of TS2 downloads wrapped in adfly links, and it's been a while since last time. I guess the 'TS2 generation' got so tired of pay/donation sites most of us offer our downloads for free.

Yeah, it seems like Adfly is replacing the Pay/Donation sites that were mostly a thing during TS2's lifespan. The only creator I can think of who still uses that shit is NewSea, and most people just reupload their hairs for free on the booty or when they do retextures.
Mad Poster
#31 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 1:33 AM
I think donations are not only a legally and morally sound way for creators to make money on the internet, but I also strongly believe it's the only proper way to make money on the internet for any content creator. We're seeing this on YouTube, where some channels have seen their income through YouTube reduced to just a fraction of what it used to be, and that's not taking into account YouTube's ridiculously intolerant policies on being advertiser-friendly and all that.
Basically, unless you're a good little slut who never swears, doesn't hold political views, and casually praises their capitalist overlords, you're not going to get any money. They decide that for you. It's things like Patreon and GoFundMe that remind us what makes the economy - people, not shareholders.

And I'm glad that these things now exist, because I'll certainly be making use of them in the future.

Overlord of Plumbit, the subreddit for the serious Simmer.
We're constructive, creative and drama-free™.

(Oh, and follow me on my Tumblr.)
Theorist
#32 Old 16th Sep 2017 at 2:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrijzePilion
I think donations are not only a legally and morally sound way for creators to make money on the internet, but I also strongly believe it's the only proper way to make money on the internet for any content creator. We're seeing this on YouTube, where some channels have seen their income through YouTube reduced to just a fraction of what it used to be, and that's not taking into account YouTube's ridiculously intolerant policies on being advertiser-friendly and all that.
Basically, unless you're a good little slut who never swears, doesn't hold political views, and casually praises their capitalist overlords, you're not going to get any money. They decide that for you. It's things like Patreon and GoFundMe that remind us what makes the economy - people, not shareholders.

And I'm glad that these things now exist, because I'll certainly be making use of them in the future.

TBH if EVERYTHING operated on a donation principle It would guarantee quality products and service from EVERY company. No company would dare provide anything but the best quality they are able if they knew unsatisfied customers weren't obligated to pay for their services!

I imagine TS4 would be a very different game if EA knew they would only make money if their players were satisfied with the product they provided...

If this were the case, I'd have payed a hellofa lot more for Stardew Valley than I did for TS4! xD
Test Subject
#33 Old 22nd Sep 2017 at 1:50 PM
(at OP) I know this isn't helping you fix your ad.fly problem lol but this thread makes me want to vent. I refuse to even download from creators that use those methods. I had to reinstall windows on my computer after downloading a few things that sent me through ad.fly links. I can't really afford to replace my pc and for a bit there I thought it was done for good. So for any creator who thinks ad.fly ruining computers is not a real thing it absolutely CAN happen. And if this happens to a person who has less than the (limited) knowledge of computers that I do they might have thought they had to buy a new one. It took me awhile to fix what ad.fly did and their were a lot of frustrating hours of troubleshooting involved. Thank god I didn't lose any files but it was still a horrible experience. Now I pay for malware bytes and that really helps but I still won't bother with ad.fly.
Field Researcher
#34 Old 22nd Sep 2017 at 11:41 PM
I'm sure if someone bring it to their attention than something would or should be done about the issue. The Terms of Service is even on their website.
https://www.ea.com/terms-of-service
Field Researcher
#35 Old 23rd Sep 2017 at 2:38 AM
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Originally Posted by spidergirl79
Perhaps if Adfly didn't try to install crap on my computer...


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Adfly skipper for Google Chrome.
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Shorte.st Skipper - Google Chrome.
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Forum Resident
#36 Old 24th Sep 2017 at 10:47 AM
I get why content creators like to use ad.fly. But I never download from those, because nowadays advertisement networks are one of the major sources for malware. As long as these networks don't find a way to clean that up, I just avoid them. Ad.fly is like the bottom of that barrel. The amount of fake advertisements that try to make you click buttons, the ad- and malware is just too much of a problem with them.

Just one nasty trojan infection can destroy a lot of your work, or worse, steal sensitive information. And not all virusses are easily removable or even detectable by your updated virusscanner (0day).

So any site that does not work for me when using an adblocker and noscript, I just won't visit. I feel for the website admins when they ask me to disable those plugins, but as long as they are not in a position to guarantee safe ad content, I will not listen to their pleas. I wish some organisation would sue one of those ad networks that has delivered malware multiple times. Atm those ad networks keep putting their automated aqcuisition and selling above safety vs malware. This really has to stop. But yeah, internet and legal jurisdiction is a bitch.
Theorist
#37 Old 25th Sep 2017 at 1:20 PM
The first person who realised you could make money advertising things on the internet is the greatest modern villain mankind has ever known.
Test Subject
#38 Old 5th Oct 2017 at 6:47 PM
Whenever I'm faced with that horrible site, I use Safari and if that doesn't work, I use Firefox (only if the other doesn't work) to download them. Hope this helps somebody.
Mad Poster
#39 Old 5th Oct 2017 at 7:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ShigemiNotoge
The first person who realised you could make money advertising things on the internet is the greatest modern villain mankind has ever known.

And, like all great advances in technology, it probably started with porn.

Overlord of Plumbit, the subreddit for the serious Simmer.
We're constructive, creative and drama-free™.

(Oh, and follow me on my Tumblr.)
Test Subject
#40 Old 11th Oct 2017 at 2:48 PM
I have a ton of cc. Although I'm not a patient person I wait the five seconds. At least it's not as bad as shorte.st which literally downloads random exe files while you're waiting.
Test Subject
#41 Old 11th Oct 2017 at 3:39 PM
Ad Blocker works fine for me.
Instructor
#42 Old 12th Oct 2017 at 5:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GrijzePilion
And, like all great advances in technology, it probably started with porn.

it actually was...NO BS

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Theorist
#43 Old 12th Oct 2017 at 5:25 AM
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Originally Posted by XtraSim
it actually was...NO BS

This is so believable I don't even need to hear it explained, I just believe it.
Test Subject
#44 Old 12th Oct 2017 at 5:45 PM
I mean, these people need to make money if this is what they do for a living. I don't understand why anyone would donate to a patreon or something with just money out of their pockets if they're not really dedicated to that person's work. I don't have a patreon so I don't know how it works but I assume you can't make a decent income off of just patreon.

ghosts dont exist. you just die then you're faced with eternal nothingness. it's gonna be great.
- Max
Instructor
#45 Old 12th Oct 2017 at 10:28 PM
I agree with the above which is why I cant have an absolute stance on this. I cant recall whether I made this scenario up after thinking too hard about it or if I read it somewhere but its about someone who may be bedridden, so they cant work, but they can and do enjoy playing the sims and making content and so in their case the extra income be it .5 cents per download, is still very important to them.
Scholar
#46 Old 12th Oct 2017 at 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XtraSim
it actually was...NO BS


Does not surprise me at all! Because the internet was invented for porn and cat pictures, and I'm clearing the kitties on this one.
Instructor
#47 Old 13th Oct 2017 at 8:17 AM
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Originally Posted by heartkinz17
I don't have a patreon so I don't know how it works but I assume you can't make a decent income off of just patreon.

if your an ANIMATOR you can

XtraSims MIRROR floors and more FREE and premium items https://www.patreon.com/xtrasims
Mad Poster
#48 Old 13th Oct 2017 at 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ShigemiNotoge
TBH if EVERYTHING operated on a donation principle It would guarantee quality products and service from EVERY company. No company would dare provide anything but the best quality they are able if they knew unsatisfied customers weren't obligated to pay for their services!

If everything operated on a donation principle, it'd be a new shade of socialism and it'd be glorious. See: Americans using GoFundMe to pay for their medical bills, crowdfunded games, politics-related petitions et cetera.
And you guys are absolutely right about Patreon and things like that, it's a great and not at all objectionable way to make some money on the side.

Overlord of Plumbit, the subreddit for the serious Simmer.
We're constructive, creative and drama-free™.

(Oh, and follow me on my Tumblr.)
Test Subject
#49 Old 14th Oct 2017 at 5:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SusannaG
Does not surprise me at all! Because the internet was invented for porn and cat pictures, and I'm clearing the kitties on this one.

s h o w m e y o u r k i t t i e s

ghosts dont exist. you just die then you're faced with eternal nothingness. it's gonna be great.
- Max
Theorist
#50 Old 14th Oct 2017 at 6:51 PM
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Originally Posted by heartkinz17
s h o w m e y o u r k i t t i e s

kitties or GTFO
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