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#1 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 7:19 PM Last edited by Dorsal Axe : 17th Nov 2017 at 10:47 AM.
Cats and Dogs Update (v1.36) 07/11/17: THE BIG ONE - New Roof Types, Shrink Objects, Culling Options, Photography for All, Crapload of bug fixes
This patch breaks most mods, so please remove/disable them before updating the game

November 16 2017: A hotfix (v1.36.104.1020) has been released, fixing the save corruption issue when deleting households. Additionally, unplayable deceased Sims no longer count towards the population count displayed in Manage Households.

November 9 2017: A hotfix (v1.36.102.1020) has been released, fixing the relationship bug introduced by the patch.

This is a BIG patch (2.56 GB) adding some new content and fixing a lot of long-standing technical issues with the game. I've edited out all the nonsense from the patch notes this time around since it's a long read. You can read the full notes here.

This patch supposedly fixes the damn time reversing issue that has plagued many of us to the point of the game being unplayable, among other very irritating problems. Supposedly some Dine Out fixes are included, but EAxis messed up the patch notes (lol?)

Undocumented changes and feature additions
  • New music has been added to the game.
    • All Time Low – Good Times (Pop)
    • Andrew McMahon In The Wilderness – Walking In My Sleep (Alternative)
    • Baio – Key Is Under The Mat (Alternative)
    • Becky Hill – Unpredictable (Pop)
    • Middle Kids – Mistake (Alternative)
Live Mode
  • The game will no longer freeze at 8am when children in the household go to school.
  • Sims no longer walk on waterslides.
  • Graves now have an option to "Strengthen Connection to Physical World", which must be used to bind the ghost to the world or they will no longer haunt Sims.
  • Sims dining at a restaurant now properly sit and socialise with each other.
  • New animations when Sims greet each other.
  • Dig sites can now be spawned by collectible spawners
  • Get leftovers interaction now available on fridges
Build Mode
  • An object that is preventing another object from being placed is now highlighted in red in Build Mode.
  • New pastel colour swatches for base-game counters.
  • 3 new roof trim options
  • Aliens and Vampires are now found in CAS under the new "Occult" category.
  • Makeup options have been disabled for toddlers.
  • Skin details have been enabled for Aliens
Rumour has it...
  • The Sims 4 console files have been added to the game for unknown reasons.

Patch notes
Version # PC / Mac

Hello Simmers!

You better sit down for this one. Sit! Stay. Good.

There’s a bit here, a bit new, a bit old, a bit no longer busted. And it might take a bit of time to bite through it. So, let’s roll over, try not to get dogged down, and dig on in.

What’s New?
  • Four new roofs are available in Build Mode: Pentagonal, Hexagonal, Octagonal, and Round Roofs!
    • All four can be found in the Roofs category.
  • Advanced Curvature Mode!
    • When you have a roof selected, hit SHIFT+C to expand your roof curvature edit options.
  • Gabled and Hipped roofs have additional manipulation points so their eaves can be adjusted on all 4 sides.
  • Photography has been made available to all players.
    • The Barely Better Digital Camera, Appreciably Average Digital Camera, and Crystal Clear Digital Camera objects are now available in Build Mode.
    • The Cell Phone interactions: Take Selfie, Take Photo With, Take Photo Of, and Take Photo, are available under from the cell phone entertainment menu.
    • Photography Skill can be learned by your Sims up to a skill level of 5.
    • Photos taken with the camera can have frames added to them.
      • Place the photo in the world, click on it, and select Add Frame.
  • A new Maximum Sim Count option can be found in Gameplay Options.
    • The “My Households” panel in the Manage Household screen allows easier management of which households are considered important. Households placed in this panel are protected from being… deleted.
    • The “Maximum Sim Count” option specifies the number of protected Sims allowed. If the limit is reached, existing households need to be unprotected before new ones can be added.
    • The limit can be changed and does include an “Unlimited” option, although this setting is not recommended as it may cause performance issues or other undesirable behavior.
  • Shrink Objects, you can now shrink objects in your game using the Size Down cheat!
    • Similar to the Size Up cheat, which uses the Close Bracket, the Size Down cheat uses the Open Bracket.
    • This only changes the visual appearance of the object, and not the behavior.
    • Using it alongside MOO can allow you to create some great decorative configurations - like shelves full of MySim collectibles, or a Gulliver land to explore!
      • Be wary however, not all objects shrink or enlarge as expected. It is a cheat after all.
  • Grim’s Ghoulish Guitar is now optionally available at the Main Menu, click on the button, and follow the instructions for how you can download the guitar.

Alright, stop playing dead. Time to heel in. Get through the final stretch, and really let our tongues wag.

General Issues
  • Now when hovering over the rotate options for blocks and walls in Build Mode, objects that will be impacted by the rotate will highlight yellow.
  • Teen Sims will now autonomously place their homework back into their inventory when finished.
  • Homework that does end up in public spaces will be cleaned up after the active Sims have left the lot.
  • Children will no longer float while drinking the essence from a Cow Plant… because they are not allowed to do so.
  • The Write Cookbook interaction will now always be available when reaching level 8 or higher in the Culinary Career.
  • Sims will once again receive a playful buff while taking a bubble bath.
  • We addressed an issue that could prevent Sims from spinning into outfits after purchasing from a retail mannequin.
  • The game clock should no longer skip forward and back when changing from 3x or ultra speeds back to speed 1.
  • Playing your old saves should no longer result in a mad rush for the restrooms.
  • Build Mode music should no longer indefinitely loop as a result of loading directly to Build Mode from the map screen.
  • Sims should no longer weed chess tables near their garden, when attempting to weed their garden.
  • Feminine framed male Sims with facial hair should no longer see chin distortions.
  • The cowplant is now safer! And by safer we mean, Grim will no longer fail to resurrect those eaten by the cowplant that were successfully pleaded, or flower bribed.
  • Deleting a household via the Manage Household dialog will no longer remove the option for a new family to move in to the lot and keep the old families furnishings.
  • The Angled Roof Trim now includes a red trim color, similar to the other roof trims.
  • Sims path will no longer be blocked by the Gathering of Garden Stones.
  • The inspired child will no longer see all available interactions as Draw, but instead will see the appropriately titled actions of Draw Shapes, Draw Vehicle, and so on, and so forth.
  • ‘Sploit fix! Child and toddler Sims will no longer speed gain relationship with others in their toy playing relationship grind circles.
  • Non played adult Sims will no longer attempt to purchase child clothing, as it was preventing them from completing the checkout process.
  • Childish Sims are once again able to Play in Puddles.
  • Angry Sims with appropriate mischief skill levels, and Evil or Mean child Sims can once again stomp on puddles.
  • Angry writers will no longer only have the option to Write Furiously when choosing to Write Genre Book.
  • Safety Seal Holiday Fireplace, Fiery Façade Fireplace, and Firewalkers Training Ground fireplaces now all provide environment scores.
  • Attempting to complete the Smash Dollhouse whim by smashing a dollhouse will now award satisfaction points upon said smashing.
  • Sims should now sit when attending a wedding…
    • Or rather, the majority of Sims should now sit when attending a wedding. We can't hold up the proceedings if you create some ominous maze of doom in order to arrive…
  • The microphone will no longer lose all detail when a Sim chooses to use the microphone.
  • When learning that another Sim is a Regional Manager, you shall no longer learn they are a Business at Dewey, Cheatem & Howe Incorporated, but instead, you will learn that they are a Regional Manager.
  • Children born to a parent with the Beloved aspiration reward trait are now born with a parent-child relationship to that parent, rather than relationship unknown.
  • Planter boxes now have a burned state.
  • We fixed an issue where yfBottom_SP08Jeggings and ymBottom_SP08Jeggings were showing through the fyTop_BlouseCollarUp, yfTop_Ep02Blazer, fyTop_JacketTweedClassic, and ymTop_GP03Vest incorrectly.
  • The Load option from the Main Menu will no longer go missing after creating a household in a new save, and exiting the game before placing them on a lot.
  • The Ornate Victorian Roof Line will now properly place on Flat Round rooms.
  • The pizza delivery Sim will now leave after an appropriate amount of time after the delivered takes the delivery from the deliverer.
  • Toddlers can once again nap on chairs.
  • Lazy Sims can once again Nap Lazily upon Living Chairs.
  • We fixed an issue that sometimes prevented Sims from planting their seeds.
  • The Contains New Items identifier for the Clutter category will now properly clear as expected.
  • Instructing a Sim to eat from their inventory, while they are seated with a glass of water, will no longer cause adult Sims to pop up and down, and child Sims to float.
  • Eat Leftovers and Put In Inventory will now have the correct text in Russian, rather than two versions of Eat Leftovers.
  • Attempting to continue the Microscope upgrade for Improve Lens Quality will no longer require "2 drink."
  • Moving lots and keeping your furnishings will no longer prevent you from live dragging food into the fridge once it has been replaced on the lot.
  • Sims not on their home lots will no longer disappear to the unknown after merging their household with another.
  • We have addressed some issues with the outfit combinations of festival goers, and have lessened the bizarre combinations.
  • Children in the family tree will now remember their parents, even if the parent is deleted. Which means, they will no longer be considered half-siblings to their brothers or sisters if they did indeed share the same two parents.
  • Using undo to change the age of a Sim from a toddler to another age will no longer cause the Swimwear and Athletic outfit types to disappear.
  • Relationship status will now properly reflect its current state without the need of traveling.
  • Now if you are taking a selfie you will be holding a phone.
  • Sims with the Connections reward trait will now receive the lower level career rewards as expected, when joining a new career and getting a career level boost.
  • Troll teh Forums will no longer take a long time to cancel.
  • Addressed an issue with the walls of the Landgraab lot that were incorrectly set and were preventing the placement of other objects.
  • Socializing with your adopted child will now properly satisfy the Socialize with your child 10 times goal of the Big Happy Family aspiration.
  • Using the Salvage into Parts interaction will now salvage the salvage into parts as expected.
  • Fixed an issue that was preventing male Sims from receiving the Widower buff when their spouse dies.
  • Lot traits are now in alphabetical order.
  • Using the Set as Head cheat on an object, routing off lot, and then using the Reset Sim cheat will now properly clean up the duplicated object, rather than leave it in an unreachable location off lot.
  • Downloading a lot from the Gallery will no longer cause wall placed items on half walls to sometimes be placed on the floor.
  • Social events such as Birthday, Wedding, Dinner, Costume, House parties, or Dates, can now be hosted on Generic Lots.
  • The Brazilian Portuguese Sims, Morgana and Silvana, shall no longer be known as Marcio and Siobhan.
  • On page one of the Lot Traits lesson under the Build Mode category, we have added a period at the end of the last sentence
  • When randomizing your female Sims jaw in Create a Sim, randomization will now choose from all Jaws… duunnn dunnn, duuuunnnn duun.
  • The science career interaction Tinker will now properly show a focused emotion interaction option when the Sim is focused.
  • The Killer Queen Double Bed now says, as well as gives, 4 Energy, rather than saying 1 and giving 4.
  • The Square Confection, Campanulate, Photopollution, and Round Confection Ceiling Lights will now all fade appropriately when viewed in Live Mode.
  • We have added some more words to the profanity filter; among the words added are plum, plum, plum, and plum.

Get to Work
  • We have increased the chance of alien abduction, slightly.
  • Planted plants are no longer allowed to be put up for sale.
  • Baking skill gain is now boosted when inspired.
  • Placing a mannequin in a room will no longer trigger auto lights to turn on.
  • We have removed an odd shadow that appeared along the neckline of the Adult Male Mannequin – Abstract mannequin.
  • We addressed some issues that were causing retail employees to stop ringing up customers; employees should more consistently ring up customers now.
  • The Corporate Fridge Raider Revenue Generating Cooler now states that it provides a Food Quality: 6.
  • Out of This World Desktop can now have its focused emotional aura disabled.
  • We fixed an issue that could prevent the cloning machine from properly functioning if it was upgraded prior to initiating an attempt to clone a Sim.
  • THE Front Desk now believes itself to be a desk.

Get Together
  • Radio music played at event lots will no longer continue to play when visiting that lot after the event ceases.

City Living
  • Repair-Sims will now stay up to 10 hours on your lot fixing your busted and broken.
  • The interaction to Scrap Unfinished Mix is now present on DJ Booth mix-tapes.
  • Fixing a broken electric box while the power is out will now fix the broken electric box, rather than permanently leave you without power.
  • Solent Sink now properly gives (and states), Hygiene 4 and Reliability 5.
  • The Public Throne now provides Hygiene 3.
  • Vendors will no longer leave a stall unattended when joining in on group activities, but will instead close their stall before joining.
  • The In the Know reward trait discount, from the City Native aspiration, is now properly applied to all festival swag including festival t-shirts.
  • A Sims age information in their hover-tip will no longer disappear after interacting with an object socially.
  • Cancelling a Practice Singing interaction will now also cancel the audio.
  • Cream color for the yfTop_EP03JacketTie will now properly apply the cream, and not pink, version of the top.
  • We addressed an issue that could cause festivals to overlap one another due to the previous festival not properly cleaning itself up.
  • Sims' career outfits are no longer permanently altered when buying a Festival T-Shirt. However, this may still be an issue with the Curry Challenge tee.
  • Yum Cooker will no longer revert to the yellow swatch color when it gets dirty, but remain the color initially chosen by you.
  • Sims with the Instant Upgrade interaction, can now instant upgrade the garbage chute.
  • Toddlers can now talk to a Sim painting a mural, but are no longer allowed to Kick Off the Sim from the mural.
  • The ceilings of some apartments were inconsistently painted. We've gone in and touched them up to appear consistently painted.
    • Of course, you can see the ceiling if you zoom in close with the walls up, and then tilt the camera up!
      Um… you can… tilt the camera up if you are in Sims 3 camera mode!
  • Sims living in apartments can now initiate the jog action and expect that their Sim will start jogging.
  • Giving another Sim your apartment key will no longer cause social events without goals to spontaneously occur.
  • The Location aspiration is now properly sorted in its location within the Live Mode Aspirations location… alphabetically.
  • Played, but inactive households, will no longer moonlight as buskers.
  • Sleeping Sims should no longer sink into the ground when directed to Dream Big on a basketball hoop.
  • Sims will no longer fly away with a spin when choosing to Dream Big from a seated position.
  • Festival T-Shirts can now be found under Tops -> T-Shirts in Create a Sim.
  • Sims in City Life careers now receive promotion raises when achieving levels greater than the listed maximum level.
  • Right AND left handed Sims can now hold a sparkler when given one.
  • Birds will no longer fly through the Jasmine Suite Apartments.
  • Romance festival harvestable flowers are now properly named. Lily flowers are no longer called snapdragons, but now lilies. And dragonfruit are no longer called lilies, but now snapdragons.
  • Mannequin heads should no longer distort when wearing the various hats found in City Living!
  • Paint Mural interaction will now stay in queue until the action completes or the player cancels it, and will no longer remove itself from the queue but continue to play the action, preventing the player from cancelling.
  • We fixed an issue that could result in object ownership issues when moving objects out of the household inventory onto a new lot after moving or merging in with a new family.
    • In this case, the ownership of the object determined whether or not the player was allowed to move the object out of the inventory. The game thought the active household did not own the objects, and thus prevented the player from using them.

Outdoor Retreat
  • When selecting to play a Sim that is currently on a vacation lot, you will no longer load into their home lot.

  • We closed a hole in the world near the end of a sidewalk outside of Vlad’s home.
  • Babies will no longer become invisible in a mirror when picked up by a vampire.

Movie Hangout
  • Child Sims will no longer stretch when watching TV without any available chairs.

Romantic Garden
  • The Sette from the Park Place bench and Marbleized Chesterfield bench now count as benches when creating a venue that requires a bench.

Ok, that was a lot. Let’s just close this out simply, with a handshake… shake. Good. Here’s a treat, now out you go. Go on, time to pee. I’m off to cat nap.
#2 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 7:39 PM
I thought we were getting a start menu change aswell, did I dream that?

Edit: I haven't checked in my game yet, but I think the start a new game button doens't take you to cas anymore, but straight to the game.

So be it. Move. ~Jason Bourne
#3 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 7:59 PM
Teen Sims will now autonomously place their homework back into their inventory when finished.
Probably one of my favorite fixes.
We have increased the chance of alien abduction, slightly.
Didn't they decrease it because people complained? Apparently they're still trying to find the perfect amount of abductions.
Top Secret Researcher
#4 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 9:18 PM
I really like the shrink objects option. YAY!
Top Secret Researcher
#5 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 9:25 PM
Here's an idea: a slider for how often aliens abduct people. Giving players a choice - what a concept!
Lab Assistant
#6 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 9:29 PM
  • Photography has been made available to all players.
  • The Barely Better Digital Camera, Appreciably Average Digital Camera, and Crystal Clear Digital Camera objects are now available in Build Mode.
  • The Cell Phone interactions: Take Selfie, Take Photo With, Take Photo Of, and Take Photo, are available under from the cell phone entertainment menu.
  • Photography Skill can be learned by your Sims up to a skill level of 5.
  • Photos taken with the camera can have frames added to them.
  • Place the photo in the world, click on it, and select Add Frame.

Hasn't this been in the game since GTW or am I missing something?
#7 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 9:30 PM
Originally Posted by luxford
Hasn't this been in the game since GTW or am I missing something?

They made it base game.

So be it. Move. ~Jason Bourne
Lab Assistant
#8 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 9:31 PM
Originally Posted by Apsalar
They made it base game.

Oh, I see! Thanks for clearing that up
#9 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 10:01 PM Last edited by Deestar : 7th Nov 2017 at 10:32 PM.
Just a heads up for those updating their game before S4Studio, and TSRW have been updated for the new patch--CC beds are broken including Veranka and Orangemittens separated mattresses -- any placed pre-patch will still work but if you buy new ones they will just disappear and you will be out your money... So if you are a CC junkie like me either don't update or install Cats and Dogs until TSRW and S4Studio have been updated to batch fix the problems or don't use CC beds for awhile .. I have not heard of anything else being broken yet

Here is an ongoing list of things that broke or need updating with the patch

Top Secret Researcher
#10 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 10:04 PM Last edited by daisylee : 7th Nov 2017 at 10:45 PM.
Thank you for the heads up about this.


I have a disagree for a thank you! Somebody really needs to get a life.
I am patching. It is so odd. The time left keeps going up and down over and over. I have never seen that before.

edit: and an immediate disagree on this now.
Lab Assistant
#11 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 11:07 PM
really digging the non-derp version of patch notes. I'm all for a laugh and chuckle but their patch notes are really never funny. Thank you for sharing and translating for the rest of us.

smash that disagree button fam, red's my favorite color
#12 Old 7th Nov 2017 at 11:49 PM Last edited by spidergirl79 : 8th Nov 2017 at 3:30 AM.
Excellent fixes! Glad to see some issues I've had are fixed in the update and not mod related. I think I'll hold off playing until some of the important mods I use are fixed.

ETA: I went into my game to check things out, but without loading any households. I entered create-a-sim for a particular sim and found that Kijiko's lashes were still working for me for THAT sim. Seems like the version two lashes are not displaying quite as expected, but the others are okay.

Visit my sims 4 blog to see updates on my favorite sims: https://mysimcreationsblog.wordpress.com/ Visit my gallery for my latest houses: Spidergirl79 I love TS4 but I am not afraid to be critical of the way the game has been released/developed ect.
#13 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 12:00 AM
The size down cheat is most welcome. I don't play the game anymore, but it'd be great for some of the oversized items for players who are trying to go for a more realistic look in their decorating.
#14 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 2:16 AM
Sims will no longer fly away with a spin when choosing to Dream Big from a seated position.


Originally Posted by Dorsal Axe
I've edited out all the nonsense from the patch notes this time around since it's a long read.

Oh, and here I thought they'd decided to become adults :\
Thanks for taking the time to make it readable, though.
Forum Resident
#15 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 2:39 AM
This seems like a long enough list to get me to at least open the game again. I am curious to see how many of these things will improve my experience as compared to when I played a year ago
#16 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 5:04 AM
it destroyed every mod too...

Mirror floors, sexy mirror silhouettes, adult DVD, legend of zelda items and more ALL FREE AT: XTRA SIMS!
Test Subject
#17 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 5:20 AM
Glad to see a lot of quirks, bugs, and features were fixed. Now I have to go back to "Playing Process of Elimination to see; which of my mods is causing my main Sims to not appear in their house. (slams head on desk!) Probably better off waiting for the mods to be updated.
Mad Poster
#18 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 5:22 AM
Should we just compile a list of everything this one breaks? It is the dreaded Pet Patch, after all.

The Receptacle still lives!
#19 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 7:15 AM
Originally Posted by lil bag2
Should we just compile a list of everything this one breaks? It is the dreaded Pet Patch, after all.

SimsVIP has a list: https://simsvip.com/2017/11/07/inco...r-7-2017-patch/
#20 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 7:44 AM
Originally Posted by lil bag2
Should we just compile a list of everything this one breaks? It is the dreaded Pet Patch, after all.

pretty much it broke everything

Mirror floors, sexy mirror silhouettes, adult DVD, legend of zelda items and more ALL FREE AT: XTRA SIMS!
dodgy builder
#21 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 9:59 AM
I dreaded this. I was hoping to get my massive Wentworth project out before the update, but perhaps it's just as good I didn't everything has to be updated anyway, and after all I know how it works.

I expect lots of complaints in the future about glitchs from people who haven't been paying attention.

For that reason I might as well get on with it, when a fix has been made for the creators that is.
Lab Assistant
#22 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 6:36 PM
The trait I made with Zerbu Mod Constructor no longer works at all, even in a new game, won't even show up. I wish Sims4Studio had a trait-making interface.
What are people using now to make traits that work with cat & dogs?
Lab Assistant
#23 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 6:40 PM
I'm simply not going to update my game until all mods are updated, but I assume that won't be possible to avoid when actually installing Cats & Dogs
Lab Assistant
#24 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 6:45 PM
Originally Posted by luxford
I'm simply not going to update my game until all mods are updated, but I assume that won't be possible to avoid when actually installing Cats & Dogs

I took out all my mods. After I tossed the game I was working on and started fresh, all of the mega-packs that I created for myself that houses tons of content from various sites works just fine, so the cloths, decorations, all fine, and that was the majority of my mods, so I'm happy there.

I love MCC and luckily version 3.9.2 which came out today works. Deaderpool says there's more bugs to address but the game is functional with 3.9.2.
Weebs says he's have his UI revised by the end of the week, so that's good.

Between the CC I've accumulated, Deader's MCC and Weeb's UI, I'm 98% happy with the changeover, but I sure wish my trait worked. I'll have to hunt around for another trait-maker, the one I made with the Constructor isn't compatible.
#25 Old 8th Nov 2017 at 6:54 PM
SimsVIP really does have great information. In addition to the broken mods list, here is an article about relationships:


I am sad that creators on hiatus or who have left the community leave us with really cool game-play options that no longer work.
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