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KeiraLou
10th May 2010, 12:28 AM
I have a bit of a two-way question here involving the sex of a baby.

Well as many of you know, eating a couple of bits of watermelon *should* lead your female Sim on to give birth to a girl right? Well in my case, wrong! This usually works for me but my Sim decided to have a boy. I didn't think anything of this, and thought I would try again during her next pregnancy. So, I fed her two watermelons and hoped for the outcome I usually get but once again, a boy!!

I thought I would give it one more try, minus eating funky things to decide what the sex would be, and she had twins...not just twins but twin BOYS!!

My question is, has this ever happened to anyone before? Did you try and try for one sex and kept on getting the opposite? 5 bloody baby boys I have now, and I really wanted her to have a female baby :( . I was wondering whether my game could have a glitch suddenly?

I have story mode set to "on" and one of my other Sims gave birth to a boy too. The only thing I am holding on to is the fact that another of my Sims gave birth to a girl.

The two Sims that have been having the boys also have the same Male Sim fathering them all. I don't know if this means anything?

jay_envy
10th May 2010, 12:41 AM
Unless you have a mod that turns off the fruit/gender thing, it should work. But you said you only fed her 2 watermelons? I think the appropriate amount should be 3 to get a 100% female baby, but I could be wrong. I usually feed my sim 4+ of the specified fruit to 100% get the gender I want.

Btw, I'm not entirely sure if TS3 is the same as TS2, but in TS2 if you had an over abundance of female sims, the game would only give you boy babies until the gender of the town was 50/50.

Chadologic
10th May 2010, 07:01 AM
Yeah, Jay is right. It's 3, I haven't done it in a while but I'm almost positive. Easy mistake.

schitzwa
10th May 2010, 07:13 AM
I had something similar happen except I had fed my sim 3 watermelons and she still had a boy. I thought I must of got it wrong because normally I leave it to "fate" instead of choosing the sex but this time I needed a girl so did it and still got a boy. Odd. Rather annoying tbh because I had decorated things girly!

HystericalParoxysm
10th May 2010, 07:38 AM
3 watermelons will give you a 65% chance of getting a girl.
3 apples will give you a 65% chance of getting a boy.

It is merely a strong influence for a particular gender, not 100%. It's not a glitch or issue or problem - that's just the way the game works.

There's nothing in the code that balances genders of the neighborhood, either.

The OP sounds like they're just getting a string of boys. Statistically unlikely, but it happens: my sister's husband (in real life) is the father of six sons, no daughters and there's only been one girl born to anyone in my family in the past 20 years.

king9s05
10th May 2010, 07:52 AM
kool i guess thats why i have six generations of all boys on my TS3...guess i should start eating more watermelon....jus a question but what happens if you eat 3 of both??????

HystericalParoxysm
10th May 2010, 08:02 AM
Then your chances are effectively back to 50% - an even chance of getting either gender.

schitzwa
10th May 2010, 09:56 AM
Well that explains my sim having another boy then. I always got the impression it was 100% chance. Actually I just remembered why I thought it was 100%, I used to have a mod that made it so. Silly me. :-)

J. M. Pescado
10th May 2010, 12:42 PM
IIRC, each watermelon or apple pushes the chances up or down 15%. You will thus need 4 to guarantee the outcome. There are also a few additional AwesomeMod-specific caveats if there are irregularities: If both of your parents are the same gender, for male/male, the base chances are 67% male, 33% female (possible combinations XY(male), YX(male), XX(female), YY(non-viable)), and for female/female, nothing you do can produce a Y chromosome.

Shimrod101
10th May 2010, 04:14 PM
The Pregnancy XML says this:

<kGenderOffsetPerFoodEaten value="0.1">
<!--Offset provided to gender random per food eaten (watermelon & apple).-->
</kGenderOffsetPerFoodEaten>
<kMaxGenderOffset value="0.5">
<!--(0-.5) Maximum offset from .5 allowed to be achieved.-->
</kMaxGenderOffset>

Which I interpret to mean the following: The 0.1 per food eaten value is 10% extra chance when eating an apple or watermelon. So eat one watermelon during pregnancy and chances are 60% female offspring, 40% male. Eat 2 watermelons or watermelon meals and chance becomes 70-30, etc. The maximum offset at 50% means that you can eat 5 watermelons and push your chances to 100%, supposedly. This "3 apples or 3 watermelons rule" is a myth, an urban legend.

KeiraLou
10th May 2010, 07:06 PM
Ah thanks for the info guys, was getting a bit worried my game had a glitch as I mainly like my babies to be girls (like dressing them up when they are older etc lol). I still want my female to have a daughter so looks like she is going to have yet another baby now which I will dose her up to the eyeballs on watermelons to have if it bloody well kills her!

One question, when does eating the food item i.e water melons take effect? Is it as soon as the pregnancy chime goes off or must you wait until the Sim herself changes into her maternity wear and discovers she is pregnant?

clynnc19
10th May 2010, 07:17 PM
Well as many of you know, eating a couple of bits of watermelon *should* lead your female Sim on to give birth to a girl right? Well in my case, wrong! This usually works for me but my Sim decided to have a boy. I didn't think anything of this, and thought I would try again during her next pregnancy. So, I fed her two watermelons and hoped for the outcome I usually get but once again, a boy!!


I'm having the same problem as you but my sim is having nothing but girls :rofl:

J. M. Pescado
10th May 2010, 08:24 PM
One question, when does eating the food item i.e water melons take effect? Is it as soon as the pregnancy chime goes off or must you wait until the Sim herself changes into her maternity wear and discovers she is pregnant?Works immediately from the moment you have a pregnancy controller attached, which is basically the chimes. However, you can't have "imprinted" the gender another way, like a doctor, first. It's very Schrodinger's Cat. Don't collapse the wavefunction.

LethalLaurie
10th May 2010, 08:29 PM
Statistically unlikely, but it happens: my sister's husband (in real life) is the father of six sons, no daughters and there's only been one girl born to anyone in my family in the past 20 years.

Wow, your family must love apples! lol

blissfulrain
10th May 2010, 09:03 PM
Also try to avoid letting your pregnant sim eat pancakes. Though they can be made with different kinds of fruit by default they're made with apples. So if your sim is eating pancakes for breakfast constantly that may explain your constant boy problem.

J. M. Pescado
11th May 2010, 07:02 AM
Cooked items no longer affect chances in the later patches, they have to be eaten as raw items.

tim and dan
11th May 2010, 09:14 PM
If you are gonna have triplets, is there a certain number of each fruit you can eat so that you are more likely to get 2 of one gender, one of the other?

J. M. Pescado
13th May 2010, 02:04 AM
Multibirths are always the same gender due to the way the Pregnancy Controller seed is used, unless the outcome is forced by fruit or doctor. So, if you want 2 of one gender, one of the other, what you need to do is, first, figure out what the natural "unaltered" gender is. Then, force one using the doctor or fruit.

ninedoors
15th May 2010, 04:17 AM
This is strange, because the fruit ALWAYS worked for me - if I wanted a boy, my sim ate 3 apples and got one. Same with a girl. Then I updated my teen pregnancy mod and suddenly the fruit no longer works =( which SUCKS. So all my sim has been having is boys which is sad because I wanted a girl to look like her, haha. I think there may be non-core mods that allow the fruit to have a guaranteed effect.

Srikandi
15th May 2010, 04:38 AM
It's raining men?