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grammapat
28th Nov 2010, 4:44 AM
Frogs just wanna have fun..& make little frogs. In this challenge you will start with a couple of Sims that have been adjusted to reflect maximum fogitude;keeping their activities as frog-like as possible, you will be managing their big family. In my world, frogs are fat, lazy, sloppy, and happy; keeping them happy is actually NOT the hardest part!
Two (SAFE!) mods are required: “Larger Households” at MTS, and “lotFullOfPets” by Rufio.

GOAL/Scoring: I hate numbers. How about bragging rights? I brag that at game-end I had 13 babies (all potty trained) with total of 45 skill points. Had over 18 kittens. Nobody went nuts. My SPECIAL twins made friends with their real dad. WISH I could brag that I had enough beds for everyone, or that with 6 cats and ONLY 1 teen able to work I had more than $1448.

END: when mom is too old to have more froggies. Or if a pet runs away, or if kid or pets get taken away, or anyone goes nuts (totally red aspiration).

Build a lot with a pond & large tree right in front of the mail box.
Build a family: Create a pair of cats & a man & wife: one must be Family aspiration, the other Leisure. In the neighborhood screen do“boolprop testingcheatsenabled true”. When you put them on the lot, before they can do anything, you will be adjusting them: make the Pleasure sim a total slob (zero bars).Give the Family one not more than 2 neat bars. Make BOTH of them totally lazy and at least 8 playful. Give them all the cooking skills you want, but nothing else. Adjust their INTERESTS to frogitude: as, zero interest in work & total interest in toys, etc.

NOTE: don’t change the pond/tree, or the original exterior walls of the house. Don’t move the trash can. No maids or repairman. No $ or mood cheats or objects. Never TELL them (this means ANY frog) to clean unless they have 6 neat bars. No homework help or “read to”.
2nd aspiration can’t be $ or knowledge; aspiration perks like “need less sleep” can only be given if they have 5 active bars. Don’t buy a computer or fire alarm. DO buy a radio & TV. Nobody studies except employed teens.

BABIES: all births must be AT LEAST twins. All kids must be fathered by MrFrog, in the usual way; EXCEPT you can have one set of SPECIAL twins fathered by another man. You can make him, with any traits, and create pregnancy by a cheat, but he may not move in.{the reason for this is it PROBABLY will give you a child that can start changing that nasty litter box, and a teen that can repair, & help with toddlers). No changing table, no more than 1 potty chair & 2 cribs (hint: toddlers sleep best in cribs -or custom beds they can get to themselves; babies can be dropped on the floor.They each need to be in a seperate room where there is no TV or radio). Can only teach potty & nursery rhyme.

CATS: Original pair must remain in house. Only males can work, no training for advancement.Elders must retire. Provide 1 scratching tree-house, 1 litter box, 1 cat-house, all the food dishes you want –nothing else! Frog beds must be pet-acceptable. Frogs never SCOLD! You will want to use “control pets”.

Money: Will only come from cat jobs & selling them, or "special" teens working. Cats can be sold (brag if you figure out how to re-sale the same pet!). Never pay bills. Never sell anything you bought (that steaming splashing toilet will look lovely in the yard),or gifts, fish, dug up, or crafted items. And don’t USE gifts!(Except a working teen can use a computer). Lemonaid stand is OK IF someone wanted it, but when that wish is fulfilled, don’t make them work the stand just to make money (work?ewwww).

Besides cats, the only ones that can work are teens IF they have 7 (or more) neat bars, and not more than 3 playful, AND if you gave them aspirations of Money or Knowledge.(and when the more typical frogs aged to teens, give them an aspiration fitting with their personality that will keep them happy). Working teens are the only ones that can go to a community or hobby lot, but they can take ANY other teen if they are friends (sib, date,etc). They can buy groceries & earn money there.

TIP: Personality and those adjusted "interests" does make a differance in how they interact with other families. Try to make lots of friends; besides influencing them to clean and repair, some of them will (all by themselves) garden, spray roaches, etc.
This sometimes is about YOU being able to stand the mess, and sometimes about micro-managing as you try to keep every toddler & pet busy & out of the cat-house so you can “try for a kitten”. Ho Ha more fun than Toddler or Asylum challenges! Well, I hope to hear that you think this is a fun one..but would appreciate all feed-back :p

amyandmia
28th Nov 2010, 3:59 PM
this sounds fun. Maybe ill try it..... but i dont have pets (well i do, but my comp. broke, and im really just making families on the basegame on my laptop while i wait for it to get fixed)

grammapat
28th Nov 2010, 6:23 PM
Ya really do need pets - they are the ONLY source of income untill a properly serious, active teen arrives. Oddly, even though I had the 1st set of twins fathered by a TOTALLY serious, active, neat sim, not all of his kids (I've played this out 4 times) are "good enough" to work! And some of the frog kids are TOTALLY neat, even though both parents are total slobs.

PS: I'm in process of uploading the house I use. There is a reason for every detail...

amyandmia
29th Nov 2010, 11:12 AM
Ive never had such unhappy sims before, haha.

Shona and Jim are expecting their first set of twins. im trying to breed the cats but they dont have a high enough relationship with eachother yet. they are friends with their owners though. also, how do you sell cats??

edit- i didnt see the thing about the pet beds, ill get rid of them

Edit again- They had their first twins! One of each, Mayra and Kyp. I dont know how froggish the kids are yet because theyre stilll babies. plus i bought them the greatest thing they will ever have in their house, a recliner. its the ONLY way to keep theiy comfort up. I also finally got talulah pregnant and binx got a promotion off a chance card

grammapat
1st Dec 2010, 4:37 AM
You need to do "boolprop controlpets on"; believe me even though cats are smarter than SIMs (they are even able to "ask" a sim to fill their food bowl, but will as likely start eating sim food from a counter, and then won't WANT to eat out of their bowls - just like my REAL cats!) by they time you have, say 14 of them, they need controlling. The 1st DAY you need to tell them to play, and if you ever see them fight, have them play - then have a sim PRAISE them. That way you can get them to try for babies; besides, once they start fighting you will have a run-away!
PS: I notice your cribs on in the same room - they will wake each other up. And since the point is to have LOTS of babies, the toddlers will get these cribs and the next BABIES will be happy to be left on the floor. I left the floor just dirt (for money reasons) and have a funny pic of a baby hidden in the weeds next to a (constantly broken) toilet. I advise 2 doors on a bigger bathroom - it will get VERY busy!
PPS I don't see the cat box (yes, since at this point nobody will be cleaning it -except guests- they will pee anywhere) or cat tree. And where is the pond? Frogs have to have a pond, doncha know they love to eat fish (and the cats will eat them too). You sell cats when there is a guest on the lot (just one more reason to make friends); when you click the guest there is an option to "sell pet". You will want to keep MALES because they can work. REMEMBER: side challange - figure out how to get a pet back and sell it again!

PPS I have a lot to download but still haven't figured out HOW. And does anyone want to download the starter household?It includes custom green skin and my favorite FAT cat.

amyandmia
1st Dec 2010, 8:04 PM
yeah, i did controlpets on and the cats have 2 kittens now, a boy and a girl. im gonna sell the girl asap. i dont have a pond because you need seasons to have a pond (i think) and i have the litterbox, somewhere in there.....

the babies are now toddlers and it is NOT going well......

grammapat
1st Dec 2010, 8:30 PM
What is the difficulty for you? And it looks like it will get a lot worse :rolleyes: since you choose NOT to create a super dad for those first twins. That's what lets them, as soon as they are KIDS, be directed to clean. Hope you are haveing them have lots of dates, so they be happier and make points to influence people to clean. And remember, some guests (even townies) will clean all by themselves - so let them alone enough to let them. Same way with frogs; even with 0 neat, and total lazy, they will (if you let them alone) often clean up their own plates, or even a toilet! Otherwise, you WILL get roaches - although if you don't have the mod (like I do) that makes illness more REAL (even kids can die), getting sick doesn't usually kill um.

Let me know how it works without Seasons; I counted on the pond for food. And still had a test run FAIL because not enough male cats were born to make enough money BEFORE the smart kid was a teen and could get a job.