The Random Legacy Challenge - A Late Night Spin Off.

[Anarathiel]

You aren't talking about Harmony, are you? I haven't looked around fir any collectibles yet, but if there aren't any spawners on the map, that is really bad. =(
I looked in all the places where there were most likely going to be some but nothing. I guess if i download awesomemod i'd find out

[Anarathiel]

There are spawners.. I saw plenty while I was modifying lots up a bit.

I can't find them!

[KaiRuh]

I can't find them!
I remember seeing insect spawners on the wedding chapel lot and some of the parks, and a gem spawner on the burnt club. Can't remember any other specifics, but I definitely saw some. Check those places? You could always add some of your own.

[severedsolo]

Ok boys and girls, here's an updated version of Lytefoot's program.

Obligitary credit: Original Program for the old challenge is here: http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?p=3234706#post3234706

For our new people who don't know, it rolls the challenge results for you, so you don't have to keep rolling random numbers and looking it up in a table. The results are weighted the same way as the table is, so rolling random numbers and getting this to roll for you should give you the same chance of each roll as it would if you did it manually (Assuming I've done the maths right of course).

All the new rules have been included, although it may give you Secondary Income rolls when they aren't needed, I haven't quite figured out how she seperated them yet. It should never give you just a Primary when you need a Secondary as well though.

Vehicle Enthusiast is listed as a Base game trait, so there is a chance that will come up, even if you don't have FLS. I didn't see the point of writing a whole new FLS section just for one trait.

Only works on Windows, Mac users sorry :( should work fine under WINE on Linux though. (actually how I updated it)

Update - B2 pretty much fixes the entire buglist. Just got to figure out income seperation, but I'm not too fussed about that.

Enjoy!

[CinderEmma]

New update, I won't be able to update again until tomorrow night at the earliest. I made this chapter super sappy and awesome to make up for it :) Go romance!

http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-five-love-is-bliss.html


I don't know if I should check the adult box or not - it's not graphic at all, but there are A LOT of Woohoo/sexual innuendos in this legacy, especially this chapter XD It's not my fault, Nathalie's just so dang saucy! And Ned so doesn't help, being hot and exotic :P

[calisims]

New update, I won't be able to update again until tomorrow night at the earliest. I made this chapter super sappy and awesome to make up for it :) Go romance!

http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-five-love-is-bliss.html


I don't know if I should check the adult box or not - it's not graphic at all, but there are A LOT of Woohoo/sexual innuendos in this legacy, especially this chapter XD It's not my fault, Nathalie's just so dang saucy! And Ned so doesn't help, being hot and exotic :P

No, I don't think you need to click the adult box. If you aren't showing the Forbidden Body Parts you are still in your safety teen rating zone.

[CinderEmma]

Thanks, I like Barbie sims and the mosaic anyway, with just a little clothed "bulge" for the guys but nothing else.

[calisims]

Thanks, I like Barbie sims and the mosaic anyway, with just a little clothed "bulge" for the guys but nothing else.

I get freaked out by people without nipples, lol.

[CinderEmma]

I would too, but the awesomeness of the mosaic means I don't see the lack of nipples XP (And I'm extra protective by installing non-EA skins that are barbie, just in case :P)
Plus I find the hair down "there" is kind of off, at least the ones I've considered.

[calisims]

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's never quite realistic, and for guys you need an extra prop download. I used one for Sims 2 that was quite realistic, but the ones I've seen for Sims 3 creep me out, they just look wrong. I like my Sims to look like regular people, but the choice is either no genitals or weird genitals, and the weird ones freak me out more than the lack of them.

I once used an anatomically correct skin for Sims 2 females that would show hair when the Sim was in a bathing suit. The modest EA one piece bathing suit. I got rid of that one quick, lol.

[ReyaD]

It takes some getting used to now that I have the nude skins... but Matthew has got the cutest butt. That is all.

On the topic of adult content vs. teen content, my later updates have quite a bit of swearing in them. I mean, I've tried to lessen them as much as I can (or change them to "sim" swears) but sometimes I miss one or two. So that's my warning. I think Thomas and Celeste are actually my favourite pairing ever. Dammit Carey, Kori, get cuter.

Ch. 32: Wedding Bells and Bad News http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-32-wedding-bells-and-bad-news.html

[ll]

I like nude skins, I just wish there were more good ones to choose from... ;)


Wilde Legacy Update: Chapters 36, 37 and 38 (http://wilde-legacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/wilde-legacy-chapter-36.html)

[musicalgirl2010]

Second Update!! Not all the challenges are in the story things got a little rushed :faceslap: and some pictures didn't get taken.

http://parksrandomlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/parks-random-legacy-generation-1-part-2.html

[severedsolo]

Alright, the program is now pretty much working exactly as intended. I've updated the first post with version B2 Report any bugs or problems. Now I've spent an entire day doing that, maybe tomorrow I can actually play some sims :rofl:

[Anarathiel]

Right, here we go again. I am never using Save and Exit again, just Save or Save As




Chapter 1

http://riveralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-1-meet-riveras.html

[WhiteChocolatey]

Here is my second chapter,
it took a while to finish since I've been really busy sorry!
:D

http://keslerlegacy.blogspot.com/

[Anarathiel]

Here is my second chapter,
it took a while to finish since I've been really busy sorry!
:D

http://keslerlegacy.blogspot.com/

Cute chapter, look forward to the next one :)

[mimi250]

Hi severedsolo, welcome (back) to this challenge.. I'm glad you create a program for the rules, I'll test it

I won't be as present as I would want the two next weeks, I've a lot of extrawork, but I'll try to update my legacy this week, and read all challenger's updates too

[Micaela926]

I have a question about the Challenge, two actually. The first is, with a couple are you allowed to break them up, or do they have to remain married their entire natural life?
And with the Living Green you aren't suppose to buy anything new, but can you use things from the family inventory and can you redecorate them ( I'm assuming so since that would be still in keeping with being green)?

[NutsAndDolts]

Long update.

http://r2simslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-85-love-of-xing-lo.html

The girls will soon be adults. I'm excited.

[severedsolo]

I have a question about the Challenge, two actually. The first is, with a couple are you allowed to break them up, or do they have to remain married their entire natural life?

I would say that you can break them up, as long as they raise the kids together, or at the very least when the kids are born.

And with the Living Green you aren't suppose to buy anything new, but can you use things from the family inventory and can you redecorate them ( I'm assuming so since that would be still in keeping with being green)?
Stuff from the family inventory is fine, as no "greenhouse gases" are being emitted creating new furniture ;) Living Green only restricts Buy Mode, so redecorating is fine, as that's Build Mode.


Hi severedsolo, welcome (back) to this challenge.. I'm glad you create a program for the rules, I'll test it


Thanks Mimi, in truth though Lytefoot had already done most of the donkey work on the program. I just had to create new sections for Late Night and Generations and renumber everything. (It's essentially a random number generator that returns text rather than numbers under the hood)

[severedsolo]

Long update.

http://r2simslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-85-love-of-xing-lo.html

The girls will soon be adults. I'm excited.

LOL "Trees! How do they work?" Great update :) I don't think I will be blogging this play through, as my story telling... sucks to say the least

[mimi250]

Long update.

http://r2simslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-85-love-of-xing-lo.html

The girls will soon be adults. I'm excited.

Nice update.. Indeed I had read that teen parties are a bit stupid.. There is always a neighbour calling the police even if the house is isolated on the hills, far from other houses..

[KaiRuh]

My teen's party actually didn't get interrupted by the police.. but it was kind of lame, only three people showed up, lol. And they refused to leave. They passed out on my floor for the night and left later the next afternoon.

[kirajmp]

New update for Moonstone Manor - now with Generations stuffs :)

First chapter for Coal, Gen 7

He has started his science career, and his homemade challenge. He needs a wife, who will be a mixologist. Then on the the 2 kids, and the 'something awesome.'

Generation 7 Chapter 1 (http://kirajmpmoonstone.blogspot.com/2011/06/gen-7-ch-1.html)

[Micaela926]

Alison Threw her first teen party...it was ok..overall though fairly lame, and even though they were only playing music in the basement.. guess what? The neighbors called..and the police showed up. She even got all the teens out of the house before the police arrived and she still got busted, so if they are always going to get busted what is the point?

[Micaela926]

Chapter 17 Legacy Challenge is posted! (http://thesims3legacychallenge.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-17.html) Now back to Moldaria to work on that story some more!

[Tamlyn]

Hi

I'm thinking about starting this challenge, as all my other saves are kind of unplayable (since I patched :(). I'm afraid there are far too many pages to look through to see if there is an answer to this question, so hopefully I'm not being too repetitive!

If your sims has a hobby of, say, painting, are you allowed to sell the paintings? I wasn't sure if you only couldn't sell at all only if you rolled 'None' as a secondary career or if it applied to everything, so no matter what you had to just inventory the paintings etc. I don't imagine they'd be making much money from it - I'm talking just as a hobby, not as a dedicated painter or whatever.

(I hope the answer is yes, but I suspect it's no. I really don't want to have to have a million built up paintings in my inventory because I never roll painter or anything).

I rolled Mixed Single Parent, 2 children, Law Enforcement (Forensics) career, Perfect Careers and Fighters. I've never managed to get very far in any kind of legacy, but one of my stuffed up games was going fairly well (I was still enjoying it) so I'm hoping I can do this.

[ReyaD]

As far as I know, unless you roll painter, you can't sell the paintings. I like picking up those hobbies early on as its fun to kill time with, and you get free decorations to up the mood in rooms. (Every room in my house was "beautifully decorated" by the middle of generation two, and that was WITH a painter career.

Anyway, ch. 33 cause I got bored. http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-33-meet-parents.html

Ch. 34 should be up tomorrow as I get back to my schedule.

Dammit Kori, why're you such a spoiled brat? D :

[calisims]

Update, Chapter 19:
http://fosterenmity.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-19-kompensator.html


Tamlyn, you are not allowed to sell paintings or any other created/collected items unless you rolled that career.
What I do to get rid of built up inventories is to put the unwanted stuff in the inventories of my spares before I move them out. You are also allowed to do opportunities, and there are some opportunities for the painting skill that require some paintings, so that's another way to dispose of them.

[Anarathiel]

Why do i sometimes feel like nobody reads my updates?
Btw, you should probably ignore me when i get like this. I tend to freak out a lot. I suspect I am neurotic, and not necessarily mildly neurotic D:

[Anarathiel]

Erm guys. I just found something for the collecting career, is it too late to change back? Hayley hasn't made any money from her garden yet so can i still change it?

[NutsAndDolts]

Sometimes I don't get around to reading all of them for a while, but read several updates at once. There are way more challengers than there used to be.

I'm really sorry you had to restart Anarathiel. ='(

EDIT: Didn't you change careers because you felt things weren't spawning? You could change back if you wanted to. We're pretty flexible about glitches and suspected glitches.

I've had a lot of hobby artists in my legacy because I try to collect all of the versions of paintings I like. There's the hexagons thing for genius, the neon lights thing for neurotics, something that looks like paper cut-out art for childish sims, blurry for artistic sims, pixel paintings for computer whiz sims, red-saturated paintings for evil sims... etc. When I get duplicate paintings I ship them off with spares or abuse opportunities, as Calisims suggests.

I've also had a lot of sculptors because I am trying desperately to get the gnome of sculpting. It bothers me that I've never even had it once. I've taken to checking the consignment store and drilling as well, trying to find it. (edit: I get rid of my sculptures by setting them on the floor, setting their value to zero, and "selling" them for nothing.)

[Anarathiel]

It's ok Nuts, like i said i get really neurotic at times. It's not anybody's fault. I just start thinking that the whole world hates me sometimes. But i'll not go into details.

I've decided to stick with farmer. The stuff in the first chapter leads to gardening anyway.

[NutsAndDolts]

Oh... there's also a version of paintings that's dull and greyish, but I forget which trait spawns those. =(

[Anarathiel]

Maybe can't stand art? It would be appropriate for them to paint dull things. Or maybe loner

[NutsAndDolts]

The character that painted them in my legacy was Kimberly. I know she was artistic and a genius, but don't remember her other traits.

Lol... I've never tried to have a can't stands art sim paint. Now I have to try that.

[Anarathiel]

Me neither, i've never even noticed the special paintings before.

Chapter Two is up. Hayley find out she is pregnant and gives birth!

http://riveralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-2-we-only-expected-one.html

[NutsAndDolts]

I like their names. =)

[Anarathiel]

Thanks Nuts, I really wasn't expecting twins. I named the first one Rose and then was like, what the hell am i going to name the other one

[KaiRuh]

Hey Nuts, there's a list here of how traits affect paintings if you want to check it out - http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Painting

I kind of don't like what the Artistic trait does to paintings. :s It looks okay on some stuff, but I really prefer the detailed ones.
I wonder what happens if you have more than one of those traits? Like, how does the game decide which one of the traits should influence the painting? Or does it just pick a random one? I actually never paid attention to the different types of paintings until I started reading your legacy. My mind just never connected the traits to the different styles before.

[NutsAndDolts]

The game randomly picks a style that's available to the sim painting it.

I agree with you on the blurry/impressionistic paintings. It looks bad on most stuff. But it looks good on other stuff.

And wow... I was wrong about childish. Turns out that's the insane trait. xD

There are a lot of variations I never knew about. Thanks for the link!

[Anarathiel]

I figured in my last game that depending at the speed of your gameplay when doing a portrait, it affects how it will come out. For the clearest result use paused but the faster the game is playing in the background when you are capturing the picture, the more distorted the portrait.

[CinderEmma]

I just read it not Anarathiel, I was at my sister's and none of my mobile devices like ModTheSims much.

[ReyaD]

Ch. 34: Vampire (Be Gone). http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-34-vampire-be-gone.html

I read most if not all of the updates on here. I just only comment if theres something I just HAVE to say about it.

[CinderEmma]

I comment a lot, but sometimes I forget to, especially when it's a newer one :P

[Anarathiel]

guys it's fine honestly. like i said i get neurotic and start thinking that everybody just ignores me and stuff. But i know in the back of my mind you don't. It happens in real life too.

Chapter 3:
http://riveralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-3-parents-become-teachers.html

[KaiRuh]

I'm really bad about saving. I played for a long time yesterday and then my computer messed up and TS3 closed, so I lost all that I had done... and I really just didn't have the heart to do it again, haha, and I was only a bit into the second generation (they hadn't even become young adults yet) so I'm starting over once again and I'm actually really really happy that I am, because I'm pretty much in love with my founder and his wife! (And I've been saving like every twenty or so minutes, just in case, lol.)

Their names are Oscar and Adele Wilkins. Oscar's a freelance scientist and Adele is a ghost hunter. They have to have two kids, their generation goal is fulfilled, and the misc. fun is no strangers. I really love this roll, and am really excited about playing them. I might take some pictures of them later. I don't really like blogging my legacy because I stop wanting to do something like this as soon as I've committed to it (for example, my "daily art" blog hasn't been touched in about a month.. oops), so it would hardly ever get updated even if I'm playing often, but I do really love the both of them, so I think I'd like to share some pictures later on.

[CinderEmma]

http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-6-busy-beavers.html

I like this chapter, even though it feels a bit all over the place XD


KaiRuh, you should install Twallan's "The Saver", it reminds you to save - it's literally a sim life-saver :)

http://www.the-isz.com/nraas/index.php?topic=53.0

[KaiRuh]

I saw it when I was downloading his story progression and master controller mods, but wasn't sure if I wanted it... looks like I should probably take it, lol. I just don't want to have too many mods in my game, blah. I have those two, Buzz's moar interactions thing (mostly for that "socialize" interaction - it's the best!), and Twallan's de-censor. I guess one more couldn't hurt. Thanks!

[CinderEmma]

It's not that big of a mod though, don't worry about it :)

One small thing - I know that it's a bit cheating, but I refuse to remove my no maternity mod for this legacy. I just HATE maternity leave, it's way too long and it's not that realistic. From what I know, people just don't take that much maternity unless the baby is sick or the mom needs bed rest. My sister only took 2 months before the baby, and the rest was after the baby was born. It's usually more after the baby is born, and in the game, somebody needs to be with the baby all the time anyway.

[calisims]

It's not that big of a mod though, don't worry about it :)

One small thing - I know that it's a bit cheating, but I refuse to remove my no maternity mod for this legacy. I just HATE maternity leave, it's way too long and it's not that realistic. From what I know, people just don't take that much maternity unless the baby is sick or the mom needs bed rest. My sister only took 2 months before the baby, and the rest was after the baby was born. It's usually more after the baby is born, and in the game, somebody needs to be with the baby all the time anyway.

ebec, what no maternity mod are you using?
The one I was using before hasn't been updated since before LN, I'd really like an updated one. :D

[mimi250]

I've a new update for this evening: The king of Sunset (chapter 2) HERE: http://riverslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/generation-1-king-of-sunset-chapter-2.html

[CinderEmma]

It's at crazytown, Twoftmama's :) You have to register, but it was worth it for that mod plus a few other little goodies I enjoy :) I was desperate to find one after the Generations update and obsessed over it until I found one :)

[calisims]

*hugs ebec* Thank you so much! I HATE maternity leave. My poor Sim women lose so much work time.

So, guys, I was thinking about the Medical career, which I'm currently playing in my legacy. It's currently in the Ambitions careers. It's true that Ambitions did add some to that career, but it's more like the film career in LN, you go to a rabbithole to work, and sometimes you get an opportunity while at work to leave the rabbithole and either go to another rabbithole for awhile, or to do something outside for a few hours. It's not like the other ambitions careers that are always active.
So I was thinking we could put it back in the standard careers, like the Film career as well.

Great updates, everyone!

[KaiRuh]

I've actually wondered why it was in the Ambitions section a few times. It doesn't quite fit with them, it's mostly a standard career. So yeah, I think it should be moved. :)

[ReyaD]

In response to Ebec, I don't think the Sims maternity leave is all that long really. I mean, here in Canada women get at least a year off for maternity leave (on average). Its to try and encourage more women to have children, since canada has one of the lowest birth rates in the world.

My two cents maternity wise. >_>

Lol I already got ambitions -> Medical for my gen 5 roll (I got excited) and I'm keeping it like that cause I also got single parent of four kids. Half siblings. Its goanna be an awesome challenge.

[CinderEmma]

I live in Canada too, I didn't know most people got so much, I guess my sister just wanted to work more or something :P
I still don't like it, so the mod stays. Whether it means I'm cheating, I don't really care because it's super important to me :)

[ReyaD]

It might also be her job. My mom got a year and a half offered (She's a manager and took a year). And my old teacher got a year, my other teacher took only 9 months but was offered a year.

I dunno, I like the maternity leave. So its staying in mine. The wedding time off may get annoying though. I'm just lucky I got Kori to lvl 6 in business before getting her hitched.

[calisims]

The thing I hate about Sims maternity leave is they force it on you. With Autumn's pregnancies, she had a self-employed husband and her mother and Gibson all at home to be with the babies, there was no reason why she couldn't go to work.
No Maternity leave mods have always been allowed in this challenge, so it's not cheating, ebec.

[Redhead Creations]

Do the no-maternity leave mods at least make it a choice, or is it still all or none? I would have thought that one of twallan's mods would have dealt with that, and maybe one does, I just haven't ever really had a problem with it before. Then again, I've never played a challenge where career was important!

On another note, when it comes to storytelling, what is the main consensus for "chapter" length? Do people prefer shorter chapters so they don't have to read as much, ot longer chapters so they don't have to read as often? I want to make sure I follow the norm as to not turn anyone off from reading. This will also be my first foray into sims-story-blogging. =)

[ReyaD]

I think we discussed this earlier, but whats I personally find special about this challenge is that each and every story is DIFFERENT from each other, even though we're all following the same basic plan.

The chapters really range from one blog to another. Even in just my blog the chapters range in size. I use Mac Pages (with pictures at 5.04 x 3.78cm) and they range from 3 pages to 10 (my longest so far).

Calisims and NutsAndBolts are about 20 pages each. They make me sad as a writer, but so so happy as a reader. I don't think theres a definite answer to your question.

On a side note and possibly a spoiler. Carey's genes translate BEAUTIFULLY into a girl. Just saying.

[Micaela926]

One more chapter to write for Moldaria (http://thesims3newbeginnings.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-9.html?zx=97c2975a83d3b5fa) Finished one up tonight! Then I will be heading back to the Legacy...

[ll]

@Redhead Creations:
In my case, most of my chapters have twelve pics. That's the number that seems to work for me ( :lol: too ADD to do more than that in one go). I usually save the first chapter in the blog's draft and wait until I have at least two chapters before I publish.

I think Reya is right, every one has their unique style. You should write a chapter or two and experiment a bit to find out what's comfortable for you. :)



Wilde Legacy Updates: Chapters 39 and 40 (http://wilde-legacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/wilde-legacy-chapter-39.html)

[NutsAndDolts]

My updates have ranged from like 20 to 50 pics. No one has ever complained about the length, so I assumed it didn't bother anyone.

[mimi250]

*hugs ebec* Thank you so much! I HATE maternity leave. My poor Sim women lose so much work time.

So, guys, I was thinking about the Medical career, which I'm currently playing in my legacy. It's currently in the Ambitions careers. It's true that Ambitions did add some to that career, but it's more like the film career in LN, you go to a rabbithole to work, and sometimes you get an opportunity while at work to leave the rabbithole and either go to another rabbithole for awhile, or to do something outside for a few hours. It's not like the other ambitions careers that are always active.
So I was thinking we could put it back in the standard careers, like the Film career as well.

Great updates, everyone!

I'm not agree to remove the Medical career from C3 to C1.. C3 is the poorest section for careers, and as a lot of us are forced to remove the stylist career too (because of the glitch that makes sims younger), it doesn't let a lot of possibilities for the C3 careers. A lot of people will complain to play always the same career (like me, I have had often firefighters, and it's very boring to play this career now).. So I think it's better to let 6 possibilities. The medical career is a bit different from C1-careers, because opportunities in the film careers are based in rabbitholes and not in open spaces.. in the medical career, you can perform actions in public, like vaccinations, or saving lives

[calisims]

I'm not agree to remove the Medical career from C3 to C1.. C3 is the poorest section for careers, and as a lot of us are forced to remove the stylist career too (because of the glitch that makes sims younger), it doesn't let a lot of possibilities for the C3 careers. A lot of people will complain to play always the same career (like me, I have had often firefighters, and it's very boring to play this career now).. So I think it's better to let 6 possibilities. The medical career is a bit different from C1-careers, because opportunities in the film careers are based in rabbitholes and not in open spaces.. in the medical career, you can perform actions in public, like vaccinations, or saving lives

Some of the film career opportunities are not in rabbitholes, like handing out fliers in nightclubs. So it is just like the medical career, which has many of its opportunities in rabbitholes as well, giving seminars or helping the workers in the criminal warehouse.
I agree it does suck that there are so few ambitions type careers, but I still don't think the medical career belongs with them.
Maybe we should consider an overhaul to the careers so there aren't any separate C charts, just one long list of all the careers, so each career has an equal chance of being rolled every time.

[calisims]

My updates have ranged from like 20 to 50 pics. No one has ever complained about the length, so I assumed it didn't bother anyone.

Yeah, mine too. I consider less than 20 pics a short update, lol.

I don't think there's an optimal length for blog chapters, it's just whatever works for your style.

[calisims]

Do the no-maternity leave mods at least make it a choice, or is it still all or none? I would have thought that one of twallan's mods would have dealt with that, and maybe one does, I just haven't ever really had a problem with it before. Then again, I've never played a challenge where career was important!


The no maternity mods by twoftmama come in two flavors, one with no maternity leave and one for 2 days instead of 4.
I don't know of any that lets you choose.
Twallan's story progression has an option to add to maternity days, but that's for your non-played families, not for your played family.
I really liked the Sims 2 system, where they gave you paid vacation days as maternity leave, which you could use any time. In Sims 2 my elders would have all these vacation days saved up that they use up before retiring, lol. And it really helped with starter families, because you could send the mother work on the father's day off, and let her stay home when he had to work, so no one missed a pay day, and you didn't have to rely on a nanny that might burn your house down while ignoring your baby.

[mimi250]

Maybe we should consider an overhaul to the careers so there aren't any separate C charts, just one long list of all the careers, so each career has an equal chance of being rolled every time.

It's a very good idea Calisims :gjob: , I'll wait for other challenger's opinions, but I'm agree (except that it'll be a pity if severedsolo has to change again his so-usable program)

[KaiRuh]

Either one long list, or the Ambitions careers could simply be added to the standard career list. I think it makes sense to separate the "actual" jobs from the freelance-type jobs. That way things like job hopper, none, and part time job would remain small chances.

[calisims]

Either one long list, or the Ambitions careers could simply be added to the standard career list. I think it makes sense to separate the "actual" jobs from the freelance-type jobs. That way things like job hopper, none, and part time job would remain small chances.

I like that idea!

[CinderEmma]

On another note, when it comes to storytelling, what is the main consensus for "chapter" length? Do people prefer shorter chapters so they don't have to read as much, ot longer chapters so they don't have to read as often? I want to make sure I follow the norm as to not turn anyone off from reading. This will also be my first foray into sims-story-blogging. =)

My chapters are usually 9-15 pictures, I don't usually go by page length. Mine are kind of short, but I do it this way so I can update regularly and not feel like it's a chore :) It doesn't really matter as long as it feels "chapter" like, which is up to the writer to decide.

[Anarathiel]

It's a very good idea Calisims :gjob: , I'll wait for other challenger's opinions, but I'm agree (except that it'll be a pity if severedsolo has to change again his so-usable program)

I like it the way it is. maybe if you make it equal chances for standard, non standard and ambitions jobs (say 1-5 is standard, 6-10 is non standard 11-15 is ambitions) but keep the categories separate

[Anarathiel]

My chapters are usually 9-15 pictures, I don't usually go by page length. Mine are kind of short, but I do it this way so I can update regularly and not feel like it's a chore :) It doesn't really matter as long as it feels "chapter" like, which is up to the writer to decide.
I think my shortest chapter has been 9 and my longest has been 20

[NutsAndDolts]

I'd prefer having one giant list, with the option to re-roll if primary career ends up as yucky part time work.

Giving each category an equal chance on the first roll is only fair if all categories have the exact same number of jobs, which they don't. Ambitions has a few while standard has loads.

[calisims]

I think primary and secondary would have to have separate lists, as secondary has options not allowed for primary, like part time, no income and daycare. I think the secondary careers are weighted differently, as well. But I'm not sure about that.

I guess another option we have for filling out the 'ambitions' type jobs is to move the Film career over to that list, since it's similar to the Medical career with the outside opportunities. So that would create one less standard career and one more ambitions type career. I have a feeling the EA isn't going to create new Ambitions type professions in future EPs. At least, the day care profession is a poor example of one with lousy pay and few levels.

I have an update, Chapter 20:
http://fosterenmity.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-20-roleplay-scenario.html

[calisims]

Oh, ebec, I keep forgetting to get that pic you asked for, but I will do it before Julia grows up and leaves the house. :D

[KaiRuh]

If you do make just one long list, you could have just one for both primary and secondary by adding the secondary-only options (part time, none, day care) to the very end of the list and having everyone roll only the careers up to those options for primary and then roll the whole list for secondary. So that you don't have to have two gigantic lists on the blog, lol.

[mimi250]

We can move too the film careers to the C3 section, it'll be interesting since we will have got 8 possibilities of careers instead of the 6 first choices.

I'm totally agree with the 2 proposals, moving films careers in C3 or creating 2 lists by adding the C3 careers in C1 section.

[severedsolo]

I think primary and secondary would have to have separate lists, as secondary has options not allowed for primary, like part time, no income and daycare. I think the secondary careers are weighted differently, as well. But I'm not sure about that.

I guess another option we have for filling out the 'ambitions' type jobs is to move the Film career over to that list, since it's similar to the Medical career with the outside opportunities. So that would create one less standard career and one more ambitions type career. I have a feeling the EA isn't going to create new Ambitions type professions in future EPs. At least, the day care profession is a poor example of one with lousy pay and few levels.


I would be more in favour of moving Film over to Ambitions. At the moment Education without Ambitions turns into old-school Medical. If we changed it then it would need a re-roll. I'm generally in favour of avoiding re-rolls where possible.

I don't like the idea of having it all in one big list. It would mess with the weightings. Each career would have the same weighting, where at the moment Standard Career's have the highest chance for Primary. In the real world most people go into Standard Careers so I think it's good how it is on that front. I wouldn't be too opposed to having the Ambitions careers moved into the Standard Career rolls, although again, re-rolls.

Plus, on a more selfish note, it would mean less coding for me when updating the program ;)

[emilyhwithlove]

I just started this challenge and I am LOVING it so far. I've only got chapter 1 up but that will be changing soon :)

http://theowenslegacysims3.blogspot.com/

[severedsolo]

I just started this challenge and I am LOVING it so far. I've only got chapter 1 up but that will be changing soon :)

http://theowenslegacysims3.blogspot.com/

Welcome emily, great start! :gjob:

On another note: I notice alot of people are having Proms. Is that a new feature of Generations?

[calisims]

Great start Emily, I'm glad you joined us.

I'm fine with whatever is easiest for dealing with the careers. I didn't mean to make a big deal of, it's just this is the first time I've played Medical since before Ambitions came out, and I got to wondering why it was on the Ambitions list since it's more like a standard career than an ambitions profession. But it's not a huge deal, and as mimi pointed out, the Ambitions list is so small you end up with a lot of repeats. So I'd be for moving the film career over if that's easiest. It would be nice to pad that list out a bit.

[ReyaD]

I've never played film career (Excluding Alicia and Roxie's grandparents) so I'd love to have a higher chance of playing that. I don't really want to wait all the way until gen 10, y'know?

Ch. 35: Bliss http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-35-bliss.html

I think I make up for my "short" chapters by updating every day.

Question for tattoo addict: Does the HEIR have to get the tattoos? Or is it okay for the spouse/heir to get them? I know Nuts made Melody the addict, but I just wanted to get clearance on that.

[severedsolo]

Ok challenge has been updated. Film is now in Ambitions careers, and the primary income has an extra point for Ambitions, so you now roll between 1 and 20 again. Program Update is on the way. I stupidly uninstalled WINE and MONO because I wasn't anticipating needing an update any time soon and it was taking up alot of space, so now I have to wait for Linux to redownload it, Oh joy.

On a similar note, I notice the Secondary career's are SERIOUSLY unbalanced. None or Non-Standard and Part Time have about a 90% chance between them, so I would like to put forward the motion that we flesh that out a little, possibly taking that between 1-20 as well? Open to suggestions for how the balance should be.


Question for tattoo addict: Does the HEIR have to get the tattoos? Or is it okay for the spouse/heir to get them? I know Nuts made Melody the addict, but I just wanted to get clearance on that.
Most challenge rules give the Heir and the spouse equal footing, so I see no problem with mixing it up. End of the day it's your game, so do it however you want, we won't judge you. (much ;))

[ReyaD]

Eek! I'm being judged! *Dies*

Hey a random question that may or may not have anything to do with the legacy... if a sim dies while on vacation, do you still get their grave? >_> Just sort of playing around with ideas here.

[severedsolo]

Can Sims die on vacation? I'm pretty sure they can't.... certainly not of old age, must admit I haven't tried killing them off.

[ReyaD]

Sacha nearly died of starvation on NutsAndDolts' legacy, but was saved by Randy's death flower. I may have to test this out myself.

It'll be fun!

[calisims]

On a similar note, I notice the Secondary career's are SERIOUSLY unbalanced. None or Non-Standard and Part Time have about a 90% chance between them, so I would like to put forward the motion that we flesh that out a little, possibly taking that between 1-20 as well? Open to suggestions for how the balance should be.




We recently reduced the chances of secondary rolling part-time and no income to one. Because they are really dull careers to be stuck with. Everyone agreed on that, lol.

I'd like to keep the chance of rolling non-standard highest, to balance the fact that the primary income is weighted toward a standard job. So you get more variety over the 10 generations, instead of lots of standard careers all the time. I'd also like to keep the chances of rolling ambitions careers in the secondary kind of low, because getting stuck with two ambitions careers at once is a pain, as they require active play.

[severedsolo]

Fair enough then, I've missed half of these discussions, so you'll have to excuse me while I bring myself back up to speed,

Anyway, program is done, I've redone the maths, turned out I was a little off last time (woops). It seems to be alot more balanced now. Also fixed a bug where Job Hopper on Secondary Income didn't generate any careers. (Not my bug, that was one was Lytefoot's.)

Question: I noticed during testing that None was being thrown out for one of Job Hoppers careers. Do you think that's a valid Job Hopper career? Just be unemployed for a week? Or should I write it out?

[calisims]

Personally I'd get rid of 'none' as a Job hopper choice.

[CinderEmma]

Proms are a generation feature :)
I'll update tomorrow if I can, I've been trying to procrastinate this assignment though, so I might actually start working on it *cough* but it's not likely *cough*

[NutsAndDolts]

I recall seeing a thread quite some time ago where a sim died whilst on vacation and the player couldn't find their grave. Someone suggested checking the foreign mausoleum.

Sacha dying was such a hilarious accident. xD I've had everyone but my elders carry death flowers ever since...

[Redhead Creations]

I can imagine it would be quite easy to starve to death in one of those large tombs, but I haven't played around with WA that much... Crazy that I get all these EPs and then never play... Then again, I abhor EPs that add loading screens.

I got all my pictures uploaded for my first chapter! I should be able to throw them up onto blogspot tomorrow at work. (That sounds like a productive use of time, right?)

[ReyaD]

Can't wait for the chapter, Redhead Creations.

Yeah, I guess tomorrow I'll go make a couple and then kill one off in Egypt or something and see what happens. May as well put this topic to rest with some real observations.

So to all of you who've played with Generations and had children... do all born-in-game kids have an imaginary friend doll? My heir is part way through toddler-hood already with nothing in the mail or her inventory. So I was curious. It would have gone great with her story too...

[KaiRuh]

No, not all of them. There's a random chance that they'll receive one. You'll get a message the day after they're born that their great aunt or something sent them a doll in the mail, and when you get the mail it'll show up in your baby's inventory.

I actually think they're kind of annoying, lol... well, not so much this time, but in my last game I just wanted to delete the thing and be done with it! Whenever your kid goes to bed, their imaginary friend returns to doll form right in front of their bed. I don't think it's a problem with normal beds since I haven't had any issues this time around, but when I had them sleeping in bunk beds in the last game the kid on the bottom bunk couldn't get out of bed until I had moved the imaginary friend off somewhere else because it was in the way. It was really frustrating.

Oh, I also had an issue where the the imaginary friend was being noisy in the bedroom, and the kid that was sleeping woke up to "react to noisy sim" (which was the imaginary friend). It wasn't even her imaginary friend! She couldn't see it at all, lol. It happened quite a few times, so that was pretty annoying.

[Micaela926]

You can delete the imaginary friends.. and so far I haven't had any issues from doing so. Use Testing Cheats Enabled then Shift+Click on the friend and delete it... I think they are cute, to a point, but so far every single one of my sims kids has gotten one and that is just too much in my opinion!

[calisims]

There is a mod for the IF that comes in flavors for less or more likely to get it:
http://www.modthesims.info/d/444659

I use the 'less likely' mod.
Darryl got one, before the mod came out. I was constantly canceling out his interactions with it, so it never came alive, yay. It's a cute toy, and it's not dangerous for other kids to play with, so I keep it in the nursery. It is like crack, however, kids will always choose it over other toys (beware of this if you roll Perfect Children; it will sabotage you, lol).
I may someday do the whole imaginary friend thing, I have the potion to make it real (Autumn discovered all potions already) if it ever happens. With the less likely mod, it will be more special when a kid actually does get one, so I'd be more inclined to use it.

[Redhead Creations]

So here it is, my first chapter of my first blog:

http://cagleylegacy.blogspot.com/

Looking forward to writing more and seeing how this plays out! It's very fun and certainly works to feed my creative appetite! I haven't written anything in a long time, so hopefully the writing will improve as it goes on and I get back into the groove. =)

Cali: Thanks for the mod for the IF! I think you're right, it'd be much more special if not everyone got one...

[Anarathiel]

Love your first chapter Redhead!

[Anarathiel]

http://riveralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-4-thief.html
Can you not just delete it when you dont want the child to have an imaginary friend

[Redhead Creations]

Thanks Anarathiel! I appreciate you reading it!! =)

I think you can when you have TestingCheatsEnabled on, just shift-click on the doll and select Delete? I haven't tried this, but word on the street is that it works!

[Anarathiel]

I dunno, I dont actually mind the imaginary friends, but i'm still on the first generation with them maybe if they become too common it would annoy me.

[Anarathiel]

Chapter 5!
http://riveralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-5-birthdays-friends-and-school.html

[CinderEmma]

Quick question guys - are you able to download things right now? I was able to download for a few items, but now it's being stupid :( I just want more Wojtek hair! EDIT: It's working now, how odd...


I love all these new legacies, keep up the good work :)


Here's my chapter, yay!
http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-seven-moody-little-cocoon.html

[ReyaD]

Ch. 36: Serene

http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-36-serene.html

Its short even by my standards so I may post another later.

[CinderEmma]

I love how Celeste and Kori are going to raise their kids together :)

[ReyaD]

Ch. 37: Ideas

http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-37-ideas.html

Ask and thou shalt be heard, ebec. :P

Yeah, I'm thinking Adrian (this chapter, not a spoiler really) will be Serenity's "help". Not sure yet. We'll see what traits he gets and how he grows up. Etc.

[CinderEmma]

I have a tiny spoiler for you guys (it won't ruin anything, I just can't keep it to myself anymore!), but I don't know how to make spoiler tag. Help?

[severedsolo]

@ebec just put spoiler in parantheses ([ ]) at the beginning and /spoiler at the end

[CinderEmma]

@ebec just put spoiler in parantheses ([ ]) at the beginning and /spoiler at the end
Thanks :)
Tyson is DROP DEAD GORGOUS! He has Ned's hair and eyes, but his mom's face, which is such a good combo. I want him to be a YA already!

[severedsolo]

Dammit... I just realised I've failed. My Gen 1 Sim only has 4 days left until becoming an elder, and she only has 3 out of 5 kids. Might have to push for twins.... if her baby daddy will actually woohoo with her of course. Sim's are so finicky when not in a relationship.

[CinderEmma]

^ Adopt? You could use Twallan's instant baby in the worse case scenario!

[severedsolo]

Ooh.. that's a good idea. I forgot that biological and adopted children have been merged. For that matter I forgot about MC's "Pollinate" I have just wasted a Sim week trying to get him into bed, and all I had to do was steal his seed.. :faceslap: I'll just pollinate her, and then spam her with kids tv and music and hope she spawns twins. If not I'll adopt the last one. Cheers :)

[CinderEmma]

I was actually referring to the Instant Baby one where you skip pregnancy, which would be useful if you had one day until elder :P
But I'm glad my other suggestion works as well as the Pollinate as good possibilities.

[ReyaD]

If we're talking sorta spoilers-not really spoilers...

I think Kori inherited Stiles eye colour. A sort of grayish-yellow. I think Serenity may have Stiles eyes instead of Carey's if thats the case. Not sure, I'll have to look at close-ups of all of them side-by-side.

Also: All of the new toddler animations are SO ADORABLE. Every time I see Serenity do something I just coo and make my sisters run to see. They're kind of sick of me now.

[Micaela926]

Chapter 10 of Moldaria (http://thesims3newbeginnings.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-10.html) is finished so I can go back to my Legacy soon :)

[calisims]

Great updates, everyone. You are lucky, Reya, to get Carey's hair color passed down. It's already lost forever in my legacy, as is his eye color.

I have an update.
http://fosterenmity.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-21-awkward-situation.html

[ReyaD]

Yeah, I'm SO happy Carey's hair was passed on. But now I'm scared the Slayer hair will die out )the white blonde).

Matthew and Ella just had triplets and none of them inherited the white-blonde Slayer hair. Only one inherited Roxie's hair so that made me happy. Her name is Trinity. She's my favourite. <3. I never realized how dominant "brown" is as a hair colour. 3 out of 5 biological kids have Stiles' hair.

OH! I almost forgot. I tested the dead on vacation thing. It works. Just have someone grab the gravestone before leaving the lot. For their troubles, the Talon and Striker household will move into my legacy sometime next generation. Possibly. Unless I change my mind or Serenity gets twins or something.

[severedsolo]

I just had the weirdest glitch. One of my kids suddenly lost all Free Will. One minute she's running around playing dress up, the next she's standing there like a zombie, refusing to do anything unless commanded.

Luckily I had MC to hand, thought I was going to have to kill her off, but MC managed to reactivate her free will before I had to resort to that.

[NutsAndDolts]

I also have an update.

http://r2simslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-86-grim-grime.html

Generation 10 becomes YA!

[CinderEmma]

I think I'm starting to feel some of Anarathial's nervousness, did nobody like baby Tyson?
Are you going to do another random legacy NutsandDolts? Is that the last chapter?

[severedsolo]

I think I'm starting to feel some of Anarathial's nervousness, did nobody like baby Tyson?
Are you going to do another random legacy NutsandDolts? Is that the last chapter?

I liked his wrap... that's cool, CC I assume?

[CinderEmma]

I just went into Edit in CAS and clicked on the fabric :P I think the pattern is CC, but I'm not sure :)

[severedsolo]

Ooh... didn't know you could do that. I've never tried taking a baby into CAS, I assumed it would crash or something. Damn you're teaching me some things today :p It's not like I've had this game since it came out or anything :p

[NutsAndDolts]

I have some back-reading on your legacy to do, ebec.

I can say baby-joints freak me out enough without CC. xD But still cool.

Anyway no... Yasu still needs to marry Khan, pop out two kids, and complete generation goals. I'm plotting to do a new legacy, but if I lose interest it's no big loss. I will complete this one.

[calisims]

Baby joints!!! :rofl:
I agree with you, Nuts. They are freaky little things. I'm pretty whatever about the baby wraps, and maternity wear. I know a lot of people get into maternity wear, but I let them wear whatever random thing the game throws at them, lol. Though now that Generations had added to what's available for maternity wear, I'm getting weirder random outfits and might actually have to start planning my maternity clothes in advance.

[CinderEmma]

I have some back-reading on your legacy to do, ebec.

I can say baby-joints freak me out enough without CC. xD But still cool.

Anyway no... Yasu still needs to marry Khan, pop out two kids, and complete generation goals. I'm plotting to do a new legacy, but if I lose interest it's no big loss. I will complete this one.I hope you do a new legacy, I love your writing and pictures :)
I forgot about Khan! I'm glad to know when the legacy ends, I was a bit confused about that :P
And I forget that people are not as fast of readers as me, so they may struggle to read all my update (or they have a life XD). I read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows in just over 3 hours, no skimming involved, so I'm sort of freakish (ly awesome) in that regard :P

I honestly don't see a difference between the CC material and the normal wrap, what are you guys talking about with the baby joints? I love babies, even if they're kind of creepy. Still, two days is juuust fine (I love the custom lifespan, I even managed to keep it at 90 days!) with baby snuggling :P
I looooove Maternity wear, Nathalie is wearing maternity wear (some CC) all the time

I just saw other people with different baby wraps, so I thought I would try it out :) I'll be trying new ones each generations :D

[calisims]

I hope you do a new legacy, I love your writing and pictures :)
I forgot about Khan! I'm glad to know when the legacy ends, I was a bit confused about that :P
And I forget that people are not as fast of readers as me, so they may struggle to read all my update (or they have a life XD). I read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows in just over 3 hours, no skimming involved, so I'm sort of freakish (ly awesome) in that regard :P

I honestly don't see a difference between the CC material and the normal wrap, what are you guys talking about with the baby joints? I love babies, even if they're kind of creepy. Still, two days is juuust fine (I love the custom lifespan, I even managed to keep it at 90 days!) with baby snuggling :P
I looooove Maternity wear, Nathalie is wearing maternity wear (some CC) all the time

I just saw other people with different baby wraps, so I thought I would try it out :) I'll be trying new ones each generations :D

I love all your updates, ebec. I adore Ned and Nathalie.
I'm really looking forward to see how Tyson looks when he gets older.
And baby joints: they look like hand-rolled cigarettes.

[CinderEmma]

Oh, LOL XD I didn't think of that before!

Thanks for all the love guys, I'm sorry I got a little insecure. Sometimes it just happens, ya know?

[Anarathiel]

Ugh! I really want to play sims but i have a psychology essay to write D:

[severedsolo]

Much happier now, I just fixed the grounding system. Stupid game won't let you sneak out when parent's are on the lot by default, the pulse broadcasts across the whole lot, like jealousy, rather than room only. So the trailer of the kid sneaking past the parents is a damnright lie. Just managed to recreate that scene once I turned the pulse down to room only and Line of Sight back on :)

[CinderEmma]

Ugh! I really want to play sims but i have a psychology essay to write D:I've been working on a ISU all morning, just been taking a few breaks to post here.

[AlmaDelCore20]

Oh jeez, looks like I'm gonna have to make my first post on this site after finding this thing. I had no idea challenges even existed, and this is just some kind of awesome, I'm telling you. 8B

Once I get all of my games reinstalled to destroy that pesky glitch, I'm definitely jumping on the bandwagon. Heck yes!

Also, hello. 8D

[NutsAndDolts]

Hi Alma. :) Welcome.

[CyyKosis]

Finally back from vacation... funny to feel relieved that I'm back home!

I didn't see that severedsolo had updated the original roller program to include the new rules until after I had updated my program... so I just won't post mine.

I hope to have a couple more updates posted tomorrow on my legacy!

[Anarathiel]

1,590 words written :D
Welcome to the legacy Alma
welcome back Maddie.

[calisims]

Hi, Alma, welcome to the challenge.

New update, chapter 22:
http://fosterenmity.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-22-orions-belt.html

[AlmaDelCore20]

Why, thank you for the welcome, everyone. 8D

So far my game seems unglitchy, so I'm crossing my fingers.

Here's the first entry of my challenge on my Blogspot.

http://randallfamilylegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-1-new-home.html

[ReyaD]

Ch. 38: http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-38-babys-day-out.html

Reeeenity so CUTE! Also: Matthew and Ella are the worst vampires ever.

[CinderEmma]

Good chapters everyone! I managed to get mine done too, despite more ISU work :P


http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-eight-secrets-of-lullaby.html

Warning ReyaD, this one isn't as happy-go-lucky as normal, as my plot starts to unfold :) *muhahaha*

[ReyaD]

You've made the happiness fairy sad, ebec. (Yes. I'm a fairy now. Deal with it.)

I've FINALLY figured out the eye thing. Yes, Stiles has greeney-yellow eyes. Kori has them and so does Serenity. Shame Roxie's purple eyes never went farther then Matthew.

[AlmaDelCore20]

Count on me to be completely unable to hold back and to write a new chapter so soon.

http://randallfamilylegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-2-so-soon.html

It already turned a little emo for my tastes, but I think I know where it's going now, finally. That's a good sign.

Enjoy!

[NutsAndDolts]

Update.

http://r2simslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-87-trade.html

The story inches forward about four sim days.

[cherry85]

So...turns out I had some bad CC and all 4 of my legacy saves are corrupted. :(

I cleared out everything except story progression and awesomemod and am going to try again.

[Redhead Creations]

Ugh, that's awful Cherry!

That's happened to me a couple times and it is NO fun. I hope you're able to start again quickly and haven't lost too much momentum.

[CinderEmma]

I updated with my generation rolls, hopefully people aren't upset that this isn't an update.

I'm sorry that happened Cherry, that's horrible :(

[AlmaDelCore20]

OH NO! DD8 God, Cherry, that sucks massively!

[Anarathiel]

why won't blogger let me comment on my own blog?

[Redhead Creations]

You should be able to?? I made a comment on my own blog (where I put my generation notes). Strange!

[CinderEmma]

Question about the legacy rules - does the limit on collecting things not related to a sim's career happen during YA? Because I want to raise a bit more money via Tyson (he's a child in my game now) with some bug or rock collecting, but I don't want to break the rules. I'm just so poor after doing some renovations :P

I comment on my legacy almost every chapter, but blogspot might be buggy for you. Recently I couldn't post my chapter, I was sulking so badly XD Just wait for a half an hour or so and it should be working again.

[Anarathiel]

I've waited about a day D:

[calisims]

Question about the legacy rules - does the limit on collecting things not related to a sim's career happen during YA? Because I want to raise a bit more money via Tyson (he's a child in my game now) with some bug or rock collecting, but I don't want to break the rules. I'm just so poor after doing some renovations :P

I comment on my legacy almost every chapter, but blogspot might be buggy for you. Recently I couldn't post my chapter, I was sulking so badly XD Just wait for a half an hour or so and it should be working again.

Yeah, the rules apply to children as well, no selling anything your kid collects/creates.
I know what you mean about being poor after renovations, when I moved my gen 1 family (twice) I couldn't afford to furnish all the rooms. I'm still in the process of swapping out the cheap lighting fixtures and wallpapers I used to keep the costs down now that my family is rolling in money.

Anarathiel, I've never had problems posting comments on blog. I'm sorry I don't have any advice for you there. :(
And I'm sorry, Cherry, that you lost your legacy games, that truly sucks.

[KaiRuh]

Is anybody else having glitches with field trips? :(
I like them, but I'm going to have to stop signing the permission slips for them. Whenever one of my Sims goes on one, the career tab gets stuck on it. Where it usually says "Learning!" it says "Field Trip!" instead, whether there's a field trip that day or not, and because Sims are excused from their afterschool activities after a field trip, they never get to go to them. bleh.

[calisims]

I have not had that problem myself, but I've seen people discussing it in the Generations section. It seems to happen to a lot of people.

[CinderEmma]

Yeah, the rules apply to children as well, no selling anything your kid collects/creates.
I know what you mean about being poor after renovations, when I moved my gen 1 family (twice) I couldn't afford to furnish all the rooms. I'm still in the process of swapping out the cheap lighting fixtures and wallpapers I used to keep the costs down now that my family is rolling in money.

Anarathiel, I've never had problems posting comments on blog. I'm sorry I don't have any advice for you there. :(
And I'm sorry, Cherry, that you lost your legacy games, that truly sucks.What about the spare children? Can they do things to earn money?

I'm not as desperate right now because Nathalie got her stipend from ghost hunting, but it's still rough right now.

[calisims]

What about the spare children? Can they do things to earn money?

I'm not as desperate right now because Nathalie got her stipend from ghost hunting, but it's still rough right now.

No, spares live under the same restrictions as heirs.
You can do opportunities when they come up (all members of the household). Some of those pay quite well.

[NutsAndDolts]

I'm having that same problem, KaiRuh. It's really annoying.

Ebec, you're not supposed to get any money outside of rolled careers. The only exception is opportunities (you can complete as many as you can get), property owning, and teen part-time jobs. Your children and spares can only help you by completing opportunities or getting part time jobs as teenagers.

Another exception is if, say, your heir rolled artist. They can start selling their art as soon as they can register as a self-employed artist, and I believe that happens before adulthood.

I understand, it's a pain in the butt in the first few generations, and then by the middle of the legacy you have more money than you know what to do with.

[CinderEmma]

I'm having that same problem, KaiRuh. It's really annoying.

Ebec, you're not supposed to get any money outside of rolled careers. The only exception is opportunities (you can complete as many as you can get), property owning, and teen part-time jobs. Your children and spares can only help you by completing opportunities or getting part time jobs as teenagers.

Another exception is if, say, your heir rolled artist. They can start selling their art as soon as they can register as a self-employed artist, and I believe that happens before adulthood.

I understand, it's a pain in the butt in the first few generations, and then by the middle of the legacy you have more money than you know what to do with.Thanks, I'm not trying to cheat or anything, just trying to figure it all out :) I'm just going to be happy when Tyson becomes a teen and gets that part-time job :D
It is a pain, but I look forward to the future financial freedom :)

[KaiRuh]

You have to wait until they register as self-employed to start selling items? Didn't know that.

Oh, that reminds me! I had a question about the Opportunist goal. Is the new Generations opportunity that sends all of your adults away for a few days included in that?

[NutsAndDolts]

I'd say no, since it's more of an opportunity for the kids than the parents.

[calisims]

Yeah, I'm going with no on the adult vacation opportunity.

[ReyaD]

Is anyone having trouble uploading photos onto blogger right now?

EDIT: Nvm. Its all good. Must've been a glitch.

Ch. 39: Cousins! http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-39-cousins.html

[severedsolo]

IMO the spare's shouldn't earn money at all, outside Perfect Children's Part Time Job restriction.

I'll go with no on adult vacation's, it's not so much an opportunity as a "yay lets have a party!"

[calisims]

I don't think we've ever had an official restriction on spares getting part-time jobs or completing opportunities that earn cash.

[Tamlyn]

I started my legacy and was quite enjoying it, except for the bugs :( I've had so many since I unwisely installed Late Night and the 1.22 patch on the same day (so I have no idea which one the bugs are connected to!). I was also playing in Los Anegies, which is gorgeous and I love the families there, but it is just too laggy on top of the bugs.

Oh, and I've never seen a meteor strike before this game, but my sim couldn't go outside without being hit by one. She died a couple of times (eg.. meteor strike, runs out to try and put the fire out, try to get her back inside, another meteor strike). She also hasn't gotten a single promotion despite being ambitious because every day at work she gets hit by a meteor, so needs to run out and gets 'Missing Work!' Then because she won't start running until she's down the stairs she always got singed so wasn't happy (and the fun meter being stuck at half way means it was hard to make her happy to begin with...)

This sounds very complainy, doesn't it? xD I don't mean it that way! It's more I was still enjoying it enough that I will definately start over. Maybe in a little town and hopefully I'll have figured out how to fix some of my problems before then. I hope to actually storify it too, since composing the story in my head was what made it so fun. I've just never done a proper legacy story before :)

[calisims]

Tamlyn, I've heard that some of Buzzler's old mods are causing the meteor strike problem. You need to update all your mods for the new patch.

[ReyaD]

I have yet to see a meteor strike. Now I think I don't want to. O_o

That sounds like an awful glitch, Tamlyn. The worst glitch I've had was my sims not dying.

[CinderEmma]

Yay, I got a chapter done :) It's not too bad in length either, 16 pictures :) (Yes, it's still short compared to some people, but I'm happy)

http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-nine-twisted-magic.html

I'll probably play with my spare having a part-time job, if only to make my family stay afloat. Though they've gotten a few promotions, so it's a bit better :)

[KaiRuh]

..Agh!! :lol:

I was going through my CC, removing the clothing that was categorized as nude (really? why would anyone do that? it doesn't even begin to make sense) so that my Sims would stop taking showers in their clothing, and I accidentally removed the custom skin I was using. Oops! I reinstalled it, but it was too late... my Sims are black masses now, it looks ridiculous, haha.

I think I should be able to just take them into CAS and choose reinstalled skin for them, but I haven't been able to try it yet. I only have two Sims in the family right now. One is pregnant (and so can't be taken into CAS, grr.. just have to let her be a black mass for a couple of days..) and the other is currently in school, so I'm just waiting.. I hope taking them into CAS works.

What a silly mistake. Goodness...

[NutsAndDolts]

Constant meteors? That sounds like the best glitch ever.

I'm sure I'd get tired of it fast though.

[KaiRuh]

Okay, taking them into CAS worked out... thank goodness, lol. AND that annoying showing-with-their-clothes-on thing is all fixed now, so that's good.

On another note, I am really excited about playing my third generation. I rolled a couple and then rolled both of their careers as busker/band! Quite the coincidence, but I'm really looking forward to having them in a band together. :D And having both of them in the same household should make getting band opportunities and gigs a little easier.

[CinderEmma]

Congrats for getting to generation 3 (or at least getting close). My longest legacy died at generation 3, and although I got it back, the momentum has died. (besides, I lost the pictures)
I might age the purple baby (Yoshi) up to an YA and see what she looks like XD

[Tamlyn]

Tamlyn, I've heard that some of Buzzler's old mods are causing the meteor strike problem. You need to update all your mods for the new patch.

Thanks, calisims! I thought I had updated them all, but I wandered back round and saw a new new-update for one. Hopefully that'll help :)

[calisims]

Okay, taking them into CAS worked out... thank goodness, lol. AND that annoying showing-with-their-clothes-on thing is all fixed now, so that's good.

On another note, I am really excited about playing my third generation. I rolled a couple and then rolled both of their careers as busker/band! Quite the coincidence, but I'm really looking forward to having them in a band together. :D And having both of them in the same household should make getting band opportunities and gigs a little easier.

That sounds like a great roll. Claudia Sharon just released a mod to increase gig opportunities for bands:
http://www.modthesims.info/d/444652

It came out too late for my first generation band, but it might help with yours.

[KaiRuh]

I saw it earlier and was considering getting it. :)

I also rolled Opportunist and have a couple more questions about it. Does only the heir have to accept all opportunities, or does their spouse need to as well? And when does it start, right away or once they become a YA?

[AlmaDelCore20]

Chapter 3~!

http://randallfamilylegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-3-misunderstandings.html

Hope you guys enjoy. 8D

[NutsAndDolts]

Weird glitch with Yasu. She had a kid, but remains in maternity wear... including baby bump. She's in this weird pregnant but not pregnant limbo.

Vampires can feed from her (something they can't do to pregnant sims) and MC has no options about a baby. Other sims cannot talk to her tummy, feel it, etc.

But she has the baby bump, refuses to change out of maternity wear, and won't go into the hot tub. What the!

I tried resetsim, reset lot, etc, but nothing seems to work. My only idea is to make her have another kid and see if it clears properly after the second child's birth.

[calisims]

I saw it earlier and was considering getting it. :)

I also rolled Opportunist and have a couple more questions about it. Does only the heir have to accept all opportunities, or does their spouse need to as well? And when does it start, right away or once they become a YA?

Only the heir, and it starts in childhood.

@Nuts, Some bugs can be cleared up by moving the family out of and back into the house. But I've never heard of your specific glitch before, yikes!

[NutsAndDolts]

I've tried that too. Luckily two moves fixed a related glitch I was having, wherein the baby was also stuck in limbo, and no one could interact with it but Yasu. I was almost ready to say my legacy had become unplayable.

Currently Yasu is pregnant again.

[CinderEmma]

I hope another pregnancy fixes it! If not, a tragic death for the win :P

[calisims]

I hope the second pregnancy works. I'd hate to see your legacy become unplayable when you re so close to then end.
(And I really do hope you start another when this one is done)

[Redhead Creations]

That's terrible Nuts!! However, is the baby playable? Because if so, then ebec may have a point and Yasu could be sacrificed. Doesn't it only matter if the kid reaches YA? =)

On lighter news, I finished another chapter! Hope ya'll enjoy!

http://cagleylegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-two-burning-up-for-your-love.html

This has certainly been a lot of fun!!

[ReyaD]

I've never had that glitch before, Nuts. Hope everything works out. Keep us posted!

Early update since I'll be at the doctor's all day.

Ch. 40: Little Princess

http://starrsimslegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/ch-40-little-princess.html

[CinderEmma]

I hate it when you can't fix font problems...I got my next chapter, but half-way through, the font died due to a plot twist that needed a different font. I think it's as good as it's going to get unless I rewrite the chapter though.

http://marlinlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-ten-bloody-thorn.html

[ReyaD]

Can I just go on the record as saying that "Death Eater" is the worst generation goal EVER? Damn Serenity is goanna be doing nothing but skilling until she's an elder. xD

I mean, story wise its a fun little twist and I'm glad she was born with "Love the outdoors", but still. So annoying.

Oh and ebec... no. Serenity is cuter. By far. :P

(Edit: This isn't a complaint really... just stating that I never realized how hard this was going to be.)

[CinderEmma]

The monsterous post of DOOM:


ReyaD, you'll have to wait and see, Tyson's pretty hot for a little kid XD But like I said, Serenity is beautiful as well :)

I would be making so many Harry Potter jokes if I had that roll ReyaD :P But seriously, I'm struggling with Ned's fishing career, so I understand the evilness of leveling up for a roll :P

Just curious, what are your names and gender? It's hard to tell from a username and avatar :)
My name is Emma and I'm a girl :D

A cool miscellaneous fun roll idea would be Fashion Diva. Each sim week, the heir (or spouse if applicable) would have to completely revamp their wardrobe to keep with the current fashion trends :) If you wanted to mock it, you could make the most hideous outfit each week and the sim thinks they're a Fashion Diva but are just fashion blind XD

One more thing - if I choose Nectar maker as my future heir's spouse's career (I get to choose between it and Farmer), can I move the town to Riverblossom Hills so I don't have to deal with the glitchiness of France? Or can I not move unless I get the roll to move or there are glitches?

[ReyaD]

I've actually wondered about the moving thing myself. I really want to totally re-do the house for Serenity's generation (once she becomes YA) because the current Star house was just so poorly planned. (Its perfect for a three person family... but Serenity's will be much larger).

Oh I'm a girl, lol. Ever since I was little people called me Reina, which is spanish for Queen. When we moved to Canada my friends just changed it to Reya since they couldn't pronounce Reina. It's sort of stuck with me. You can call me Reya or Cece if you'd like. (Cece is my first name, if you couldn't tell by my blogger account). No one in my culture refers to each other by their first given name though so its weird sometimes. xD I only use Cece/Cecilia for work or school documents.

[CinderEmma]

I've actually wondered about the moving thing myself. I really want to totally re-do the house for Serenity's generation (once she becomes YA) because the current Star house was just so poorly planned. (Its perfect for a three person family... but Serenity's will be much larger).

Oh I'm a girl, lol. Ever since I was little people called me Reina, which is spanish for Queen. When we moved to Canada my friends just changed it to Reya since they couldn't pronounce Reina. It's sort of stuck with me. You can call me Reya or Cece if you'd like. (Cece is my first name, if you couldn't tell by my blogger account). No one in my culture refers to each other by their first given name though so its weird sometimes. xD I only use Cece/Cecilia for work or school documents.I love Reina, how do you pronounce that? I might be making a regular legacy which I would link in my signature with Agnes Crumplebottom (made-over), and I might use that name :) I like Reya and Cece as well, you're lucky to have so many names :P I've always wanted a nickname, but there's just not much you can do with Emma XD

I'm Canadian too, if I haven't already mentioned that :)

[Redhead Creations]

Do you have to go to France for nectar making? I thought there was a book available either at the bookstore or sometimes through the consignment store that would teach you the basics, then you learn the rest on the machine? I'd hope you wouldn't have to go all the way there to learn it!

I'm kinda scared as well to go on a vacation, as I hear that things can get really messed up with your game when you come back...

[CinderEmma]

I've never done nectar making, so I have no clue XD I think you had to go there to get the book though, as I couldn't find the book in the bookstore when I looked :( But I'm not sure.

EDIT: http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/skills/worldadventures/nectarmaking/ This might help us figure out the nectar career :P

[calisims]

ebec,

My name is Melissa.

I love the idea of a Fashion Diva roll. I never get around to changing my Sim's clothes, so that would be a great way to make me do it.

You can move at will now, we added that to the rules awhile back. You can also edit some of the community lots in your current hood with buy debug to add the WA fruit plants. There's a mod here at MTS that allows you to purchase WA items like the nectar maker from the grocery store. Or you could use buydebug to get that for your home lot.
So, you have lots of options if you decide to go for nectar maker.

I've never rolled Death Eater. It doesn't sound like much fun.

[KaiRuh]

You don't absolutely have to go there if you can find the book/machine at the consignment store, or if you cheat a little and use buydebug to buy a nectar machine (not sure if that's allowed though). You can probably find the many types of grapes and whatnot in the store as well.

[CinderEmma]

I have a cousin named Melissa, I've always liked the name :)

Okay, I think I'll do the buydebug for the machine, I forgot about that. I don't get what you mean by editing the community lot to add the WA fruits, how does that work? I might add the exotic cookbooks if I figure it out, it's always driven me crazy that my sims can't make stir-fry because they haven't visited China :P
I'll still probably move houses, I found two CC houses I really like with a basement - I can't make a basement to save my life XD

[calisims]

You just enter a community lot in Edit Town mode, turn on buy debug and in the plants and seed spawners section are all the plants including the WA ones. You can place all the new fruit plants in the community garden lot and/or the parks, etc.

[CinderEmma]

You just enter a community lot in Edit Town mode, turn on buy debug and in the plants and seed spawners section are all the plants including the WA ones. You can place all the new fruit plants in the community garden lot and/or the parks, etc.Oh, I was thinking that you could click on the grocery store and add stuff to it :P Thanks!

[KaiRuh]

Oh, my name is Summer, by the way.

I like the Fashion Diva roll a lot too. Some more rolls would be really nice. :D I've been trying to brainstorm, haven't come up with anything yet though.

[ReyaD]

Yeah I was thinking of cheating and buy debugging a life fruit plant straight into Sunset Valley. Just cause I hate gardening.

Death Eater isn't... hard, per say. Its just really really labour intensive. Lots of work to do for it.

Lol that isn't even my whole name, Emma. (Can I call you that now?) My full name actually contains over 30 characters.

Calisims: My best friend is named Melissa. I've always loved the name.

[calisims]

Yes, I think we do need more goal/misc. fun rolls. I've been trying to think of some for Generations, but haven't come on anything really good yet.

Reya, you can add a life fruit plant via buydebug. Not to your own lot, but to a community lot. Since other neighborhoods have them already in place, it's not fair you should be limited to what's in your neighborhood. Also, I've had gardeners who've spent a lifetime gardening and never got the opportunity that give the life fruit. Some never even get the meat plant opportunity. It wouldn't be right for you to lose your goal because the game won't cough up the right opportunity. That's out of your control.

[ReyaD]

Thanks Calisims. I think thats what I'll do. Besides, Serenity is just a kid right now. Who wants to spend their entire life out in the dirt begging for a random plant? She's going to do that with fishing and cooking only. ^^

I like the idea of the fashion diva. Its cute!

[Redhead Creations]

Yes yes yes, on the fashion Diva. I too forget to update my outfits. The only reason I'm doing it now is because of the picture taking, I try not to have them wear the same thing in EVERY picture.

[calisims]

Yes yes yes, on the fashion Diva. I too forget to update my outfits. The only reason I'm doing it now is because of the picture taking, I try not to have them wear the same thing in EVERY picture.

LOL, my Sims are always wearing the same thing, from YA through A and if they had the same outfits for elder, they wouldn't change then, either. Though I did make a point of changing Sandra Roth's outfit every time Foster saw her. :lol:

[CinderEmma]

You can all call me Emma, we're all friends :) Besides, it's weird to be called ebec all the time XD
I don't have too many friends IRL (though I'm lucky to have a few), so I'll take 'em when I can get 'em :)

We should all brainstorm for roll ideas, even if only like 3 or 4 of our ideas get approved, that's still 3/4 more rolls then before :)
I thought of the Fashion Diva goal for the same reason, that and it would give me incentive to make a gay male sim heir XD

[calisims]

You all can call me Melissa as well.

We definitely need more rolls for the goals. I was trying to think of something for all the new kid stuff, but all I could come up with is 'build a playground', lol.

[fairycake89]

On lighter news, I finished another chapter! Hope ya'll enjoy!

http://cagleylegacy.blogspot.com/2011/06/chapter-two-burning-up-for-your-love.html

This has certainly been a lot of fun!!

omg! that Cheri is a cheap lil' tramp! Poor Morand! Loving this story btw!

[CinderEmma]

Okay, I got a few ideas for goals. Some of them are a bit extreme, but I got to try.

- Two jobs with a twist. You must take up a hobby that does not relate AT ALL to one sims career and can make money off it. However, there has to be a price! Your sim must lose the majority of the extra profits, at least 75% percent. Whether it is through expensive spa packages, donations (for good/evil sims), eating out, or other rabbit hole sinkholes :) There can be the optional rule that no opportunities can be done during that generation.

- Celebrity Hater. Your sim must make enemies of all Celebrities. Your best friend a one star celeb through another friend? Tough! Yelling matches, nemisises, even death for all Celebrities!

- Hates being at home. Besides working, all sims must leave the house every day to do something out around the town.

[ReyaD]

I've built a new playground in the main park, the school, the Starr Graveyard, and some other random parks. xD I think I've passed that roll!

What about something like "Hobbyist"?
The heir (Plus spouse and/or children) must roll for a hobby (Painting/ scultping/ chemistry/ chess/ computers/ stargazing/ inventing/ womanizing/ mananizing/ etc.) and must spend 5h (or something like that) a week expressing that trait. Whatever is produced doesn't have to be sold, but maybe we can say that one or two "items" can be sold a week to fun that hobby.

And of course your sim must dedicate money and effort into the hobby. If he's a womanizer, make a separate "love" room with the heart bed and best furniture. If she's an artist, make a room full of a half dozen easels. Or something similar.

I had the idea because Kori's job has absolutely no skills attached to it, and she is getting BORED.

[KaiRuh]

Is dating a patch or Generations addition? lol, it feels like so much of what came with Generations was available to everyone through the patch...

Misc. Fun
The Romantic - Go on a date every sim week.

Similar to partier. It could be expanded to say go on a date or a group outing with several friends.. something to get your Sims out more, because I know mine don't just go to lots and hang out with people very often, lol. My only concern with it would be the reputation system. Though you don't necessarily have to be a romantic interest with the person you go on a date with, so I don't know if it would even affect it. I did hear there was an "exploring his/her options" reputation, so that might come up, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a bad reputation.

The Grandmaster - Become a grand master at chess AND martial arts.

Not sure how well this works without WA though as just becoming a grand master at chess isn't very challenging. Working on both should be plenty though. Feels more like a goal than misc. fun.

I was also considering something involving gnomes, but that's probably too unpredictable since you find them randomly.

That's all I've got so far.

[CinderEmma]

I think people who don't have the patch/generations can just go out on a romantic outing and social romantically for the roll.

And some of mine were misc. fun. and some were goals, it doesn't matter to me :)

[KaiRuh]

Oh, another one. Not sure which category it'd go under.

The Perfectionist - Max and complete the associated challenges for at least one (or more?) skill.

If it was added, some skills might be off limits unless you've rolled the career.. for instance, one of the Logic skill challenges is to discover 25 celestial bodies or something like that, so you couldn't use the Logic skill for this unless you were a freelance scientist. I think there are enough skills that you could pick from that it wouldn't be that much of a problem though.

[ReyaD]

I like your perfectionist idea, KaiRuh. actually, I like a lot of the ideas pitched so far, but this one in particular. It opens up a lot of options for the roll.

[CinderEmma]

I like the perfectionist one, but some of them (including the 25 celestial bodies) earn money, so maybe the person would have to familyfund the money out each time?

[KaiRuh]

Oh, yeah. I was just thinking you wouldn't be able to use that skill for the roll if it included something you weren't allowed to do, but just removing the money would work too.

[CinderEmma]

I think they should get the choice, but I betcha in the rules it'll just be don't do it :P

[ReyaD]

Well I've been selling off Serenity's excess fish, and then just having her donate the money, and deleating the "charitable" moodlet through cheats.

[calisims]

I like Perfectionist idea a lot. But you are not disallowed from stargazing even if you don't roll Freelance Scientist. It's the one exception to the whole no making money off another career thing, because you don't have control over whether you find anything while skilling on the telescope. Unlike painting etc where you can choose not to sell the product you make while skilling.
I also really like that Romantic idea for a date/social outing every week.

Does being a grandmaster in martial arts require doing tournaments in China? We kind of shy away from forcing people to travel.

I like the two jobs/hobbyist ideas, but they need some tweaking. I don't want to be finagling around with figuring out 75% of the profits of my hobby or whatever. A rolled hobby would be interesting, but I would leave womanizing etc out of it. With the reputation system, you could have your spouse up and divorce you.

Celebrity hater would be impossible for me, my family is currently all 4 or 5 star celebrities. And I don't even try, really. Well, I did have Carey & Foster do celebrity opportunities because I was desperate for cash, and since then, every generation becomes a celebrity.

[CinderEmma]

Yay, I've been forcing myself to not stargaze (ghosthunters need logic, which I find a little odd :P), which is making it hard to make my logic skill go up since I don't have a chess board or a computer.

[Redhead Creations]

omg! that Cheri is a cheap lil' tramp! Poor Morand! Loving this story btw!

Thank you Fairy!! Haha Yeah, she's a little self-absorbed, huh?

I'll try to think of some other challenge/misc goals as well... It's always good to add a little variety!

[calisims]

Yeah, there are a lot of unwritten rules and amendments to this challenge. Since the beginning, people ask for clarifications on things, they get answered in the thread and then it never makes it into the official rules.
I'll have to go over and add the stargazing is allowed thing to the blog. You really need to be able skill logic.

[KaiRuh]

I just looked it up; you do have to go to China to do the Martial Arts tournaments.

Can you find celestial bodies by just using the "stargaze" option? I know that Search Galaxy looks for them specifically, but I never knew you could find them while just using Stargaze.

[calisims]

I just looked it up; you do have to go to China to do the Martial Arts tournaments.

Can you find celestial bodies by just using the "stargaze" option? I know that Search Galaxy looks for them specifically, but I never knew you could find them while just using Stargaze.

Yes, you can. FWIW, the amount of money you get from it isn't that much money, and you can go whole nights without finding anything. It would be really hard to abuse this as free income, you make more doing opportunities.

That's too bad about the Grandmaster thing, I liked that idea.

[severedsolo]

Weird glitch with Yasu. She had a kid, but remains in maternity wear... including baby bump. She's in this weird pregnant but not pregnant limbo.

Vampires can feed from her (something they can't do to pregnant sims) and MC has no options about a baby. Other sims cannot talk to her tummy, feel it, etc.

But she has the baby bump, refuses to change out of maternity wear, and won't go into the hot tub. What the!

I tried resetsim, reset lot, etc, but nothing seems to work. My only idea is to make her have another kid and see if it clears properly after the second child's birth.

Have you tried using MC to force a reset? I'm sure there is an option there somewhere... either that or MC her out of the maternity wear, and grab my "Free Your Preggo" Mod to get her in the hot tub :)

[ReyaD]

Well, we could always have Grandmaster as a roll, and if someone doesn't have WA or doesn't want to travel they just re-roll. Its just like if they roll Daycare as a secondary career but don't have Generations. Right?

It would be easy to make no-money for the Hobbyist idea. It was just a pitch, after all.

Aaaw... I like the womanizer hobby. :P

[severedsolo]

Sorry... big old list of opinions :p

Why would you need to dispose of profits at all for Hobbies?

To my mind, hobbies are things like... well pretty much any of the non-standard careers. I can't think of a single one of them that requires you to make money off of them.

Well except writing... but that's easily fixed, "just don't write any books, use practise writing instead"

I really like that idea actually.... definitely going on the list. Agreed, womanising is not a hobby....

Fashion Diva I also like, and that seems to have been met with universal approval, so I think that one will make it in there too.

Celebrity Hater, to be honest I'm not a fan of. As Melissa said, it's dead easy to get celebrity stars without meaning to. Sometimes the game just gives them to you for no reason as well.

Hates being at Home... I can see that causing issues, especially if combined with "No Strangers" and you have kids.

The Romantic, I like it, but I would suggest it gets restricted to single Sims only, so the annoying romantic rep doesn't bugger you over.

The Perfectionist: I can't see that being a real problem to be honest. The money gains on those things are pretty minimal, and chances are you will pick a skill that you are working on for career anyway, I'm sure we could... bend the rules a little if necessary.

[CyyKosis]

I love the job/hobbyist idea! It would add more story-potential at the very least!

Instead of hating celebrities, you could make your sim need to have a certain amount of enemies instead?

(BTW: For "hands off" can you take items out of your sim's inventory as long as you don't sell it? Or does it need to just stay in there until the new heir is a YA?)

[severedsolo]

(BTW: For "hands off" can you take items out of your sim's inventory as long as you don't sell it? Or does it need to just stay in there until the new heir is a YA?)

Yep, anything that cannot be achieved by clicking (such as hanging paintings) can use the Hand of God, otherwise you're sims have to do it.

[CinderEmma]

Maybe there could be a separate roll for social interactions - woman(man)izer, jerk, loner, etc. Each possible social interaction would have set rules that they would have to follow. Like the jerk would interact negatively to friendly interactions, would have to pick a fight once a week (it could replace the fighter roll), etc.

All my suggestions can be tweaked btw, I haven't thought hard about the details, just the idea :)

[calisims]

LOL, well you are free to pursue womanizing as a hobby if you want. But with the new reputation system, spouses will autonomously divorce you for cheating, and you can't cancel it from their queue. So I wouldn't want to force that hobby on someone as a random roll, as it could ruin the legacy if you needed the spouse to achieve your goals.

[calisims]

Maybe there could be a separate roll for social interactions - woman(man)izer, jerk, loner, etc. Each possible social interaction would have set rules that they would have to follow. Like the jerk would interact negatively to friendly interactions, would have to pick a fight once a week (it could replace the fighter roll), etc.

All my suggestions can be tweaked btw, I haven't thought hard about the details, just the idea :)

I would find this too restricting to my character development and gameplay.

[severedsolo]

LOL, well you are free to pursue womanizing as a hobby if you want. But with the new reputation system, spouses will autonomously divorce you for cheating, and you can't cancel it from their queue. So I wouldn't want to force that hobby on someone as a random roll, as it could ruin the legacy if you needed the spouse to achieve your goals.

There is a very easy way around that... "Pick a hobby based on your Sims traits (it has to make sense, for instance, artistic sims could pick painting, bookworms pick writing etc.) You're Sim must do something to pursue this hobby at least once a week.

or something like that, If you don't want to womanise, you're unlikely to pick Hopeless Romantic, or Commitment Issues for example.

I would find this too restricting to my character development and gameplay.

Agreed. The rolls should not fundamentally change the way you play the game. That's pretty much my one rule.

[KaiRuh]

I looked through the skill challenges for Perfectionist real quick to see which ones require you to make money.

- All of the Writing challenges require you to write books and one of them requires you to have a certain amount of royalties, so I think that one would have to be restricted to those who rolled writer.
- One of the Mixology challenges requires you to serve a certain number of Sims.. to do so, you'd have to man a bar, and thus make tips off of it. I feel like mixologist tips are negligible, so I dunno if you want to restrict that one or not.
- All of the instruments have a Money Maker challenge that requires you to make $25,000 off of your instrument.. this can happen through opportunites and/or tips, so you could still choose these skills without having rolled busker/band, but it may be difficult to get enough opportunities for it.

All of the others should be fine for anyone to do regardless of what they've rolled.

Collecting and Consignment have "skill" challenges, but there isn't anything to max there. IIRC, the adventure journal has some challenges in it as well, but there also isn't anything you could max for that.. so I would say not to include them since it takes away half the challenge.

Oh, and I noticed that the Logic and Martial Arts skills have challenges for you to become a grand master, so that's not completely thrown out. :)

[CyyKosis]

Yep, anything that cannot be achieved by clicking (such as hanging paintings) can use the Hand of God, otherwise you're sims have to do it.

Hmm... the blog rule for hands off doesn't say anything about the Hand of God... So the rule is actually that I can move stuff as long as the sim can't do it themselves? ie: I can't put a book back but I can hang a painting? And if I had an Artist and they had a painting in their inventory, I'd have to have them sell it at the consignment store?

[calisims]

The Romantic, I like it, but I would suggest it gets restricted to single Sims only, so the annoying romantic rep doesn't bugger you over.


Married Sims can go on dates with their spouses.
Also, we could change this to be a date or a social outing with friends (changing the name from Romantic to something else).

[KaiRuh]

The Romantic, I like it, but I would suggest it gets restricted to single Sims only, so the annoying romantic rep doesn't bugger you over.
Once you're taken, you could just go on a date with your partner every week, so you don't have to end up with a bad rep. :)

[severedsolo]

Married Sims can go on dates with their spouses.
Also, we could change this to be a date or a social outing with friends (changing the name from Romantic to something else).

Yes! I like that, I move that it be called... "Social Bunny"

Hmm... the blog rule for hands off doesn't say anything about the Hand of God... So the rule is actually that I can move stuff as long as the sim can't do it themselves? ie: I can't put a book back but I can hang a painting? And if I had an Artist and they had a painting in their inventory, I'd have to have them sell it at the consignment store?

I know it's a little ambiguous, I had a similar question myself way back when Tigger was still running this challenge. I think the wording has been changed, I seem to remember at one point it was very clear that your Sims had to clean up after themselves as well. Let me get back to you on that one... it may be that someone else has gone in and changed it without me noticing. Also the rules do say specifically:

If you need to sell items for your career, you may only sell them by the consignment store (the store allows you to sell gadgets, fruits & vegetables, fishes, photographs, nectar, sculpture, books, paintings and gems)

[calisims]

Yes! I like that, I move that it be called... "Social Bunny"

Yes, that's the perfect name for it!

[CinderEmma]

Okay, I have no more ideas right now, I think I was just starting to put them out without thinking about them XD

[ReyaD]

We're getting so much done today! O_o

[severedsolo]

Just a heads up... Death Eater may have a little "accident" when I update tomorrow and disappear. I know it was my idea, but I've decided I don't much like it. Would be interested to hear some experiences of people who have played it though, is it a real PITA?

[ReyaD]

As I was saying earlier, its not a HARD challenge, and it makes for a good story, which is why I didn't use my joker when I first rolled it. But now that I'm actually playing it... the life fruit relies a LOT on chance as to wether or not your sim actually gets it.

Its not a bad challenge, but its possible to lose with no fault of your own. Which would suck, y'know?

EDIT: Furthermore, I may cheat a little when the actual ambroisa is finished. Just because it wouldn't make sense for the heir to eat only one piece, y'know? I don't know. I'm still playing with ideas. May do something sappy and romantic too.

[CinderEmma]

Ugh, I want to play my legacy, but I wanted to put my future house for the heir down now (I'll kick out any residences). I don't know if I'll be able to afford it, as it's an expensive little bug of a house, but I love it :) Ugh, it's such a pain to load houses in my world though, it's been like 40 real minutes. I don't know why it's the slowest thing in my game, even longer then loading the world itself.

[severedsolo]

I guess I could throw my personal "Life Fruit buyable from the Grocery Store" Mod that I made for myself on here, to get around that? I used it for Simbots... the way I see it, an Inventor would probably buy that sort of stuff from someone else anyway. Y'know... someone with an interest in gardening.

On the "one piece" thing. I added that simply because I figured that the point of a legacy challenge is that you're Sim's actually die, to make way for the next generation. I wasn't exactly happy with it at the time of writing either. So go ahead and cheat :p

[calisims]

I guess I could throw my personal "Life Fruit buyable from the Grocery Store" Mod that I made for myself on here, to get around that? I used it for Simbots... the way I see it, an Inventor would probably buy that sort of stuff from someone else anyway. Y'know... someone with an interest in gardening.

On the "one piece" thing. I added that simply because I figured that the point of a legacy challenge is that you're Sim's actually die, to make way for the next generation. I wasn't exactly happy with it at the time of writing either. So go ahead and cheat :p

So, I've never made or eaten ambrosia before. My understanding is it brings ghosts back to life, and resets the living to the beginning of their age stage?
For me, I don't like messing with the life cycle, I want my Sims to grow old and die on schedule, not hanging around for another generation of play. So I'd be interested in changing the rule to not require eating it, if eating does what I think it does.

[NutsAndDolts]

Whoa, this topic has exploded with replies since I last looked at it. O.O

You're correct about Ambrosia, calisims.

I'm about to have to test it out in my game, in fact. Yasu had her second kid, and is still appearing heavily pregnant. I killed her with testingcheastenabled (insta-starve) and her ghost is also heavily pregnant. I'll rez her and see if it helps. And if it doesn't... I don't even... this really sucks. I could replace her with a clone, but she'd lose all of her invention skill accomplishments and stuff. =(

Sorry to be all wrapped up in my own glitches instead of contributing, lol.

[calisims]

Whoa, this topic has exploded with replies since I last looked at it. O.O

You're correct about Ambrosia, calisims.

I'm about to have to test it out in my game, in fact. Yasu had her second kid, and is still appearing heavily pregnant. I killed her with testingcheastenabled (insta-starve) and her ghost is also heavily pregnant. I'll rez her and see if it helps. And if it doesn't... I don't even... this really sucks. I could replace her with a clone, but she'd lose all of her invention skill accomplishments and stuff. =(

Sorry to be all wrapped up in my own glitches instead of contributing, lol.

If I were going through that kind of glitch, I'd be freaking out all over the place.
I really hope this works!

[NutsAndDolts]

It didn't. *facepalm*

Unfortunately even if I make her fat or something, she'll just look pregnant. x.x

[CinderEmma]

Maybe she could die when pregnant with her third child, which is why her ghost is pregnant?

If all else fails, use MC's Total Annihilation and pretend she's been kidnapped. Or ran away?

[NutsAndDolts]

I kind of like that idea, actually, except... I want her to live and invent the flux capacitor (Inventor's Accolade, rather).

/obsessed with career trophies

I am replacing her with a clone. I know it won't be the "real" Yasu, but it'll be pretty darn close.

I'll let y'all know how the new reputation system reacts when I make new Yasu married to Khan.

[severedsolo]

That's a real shame Nuts =/ To be honest I've been grumbling about certain Sim's autonomy randomly switching off, but that's nothing compared to some of the stuff other people on here are working through. I salute you!

Anyway, I have some news :)

I would like to welcome NutsAndDolts and ebec17 to the Random Legacy Challenge - A Late Night Spin Off admin team. I would say that you are joining an illustrious group, but frankly any group that includes myself is definitely not illustrious ;)

Welcome aboard ladies, and thank you for your contributions thus far :)