A Hard, but Rewarding Challenge

[TheDragoon13]

The Dragoon13 here to give you a fun challenge for The Sims 2, and if you want some extra challenge you can use some EP's. Alright first off I wrote this challenge my self, and I call it the Perfect Sim challenge, but I think someone already used that name. Alright now we start by going to CAS, it can be in Pleasantview, Strangetown, or a custom town, and yes you may use Veronaville. Make two adults for a hard challenge, or three for an easy challenge. Start with a father figure, and a mother figure, if your going for an easy challenge the third adult will be an aunt, or uncle. Now move them in to the house of your choice you may use the family Funds cheat to move them in, because you may not move them to another house once they are placed. Now have the mom, and dad to their thing, and once the child is born the challenge will begin. You may use Motherlode once. Make sure the baby who from now on will be refered to as the subject, because this challenge revolves around them. Anyway as I was saying make sure the subject has a crib, a changing table, and three toys the rabbit head the logic toy, and the creativity toy. now we enter phase one the new born. Your mission here is to keep the baby alive. In the toddler phase you must teach it to walk, talk, and potty train, it must also gain one skill point from a toy, you can gain more then one, but whatever it has the most of will be it's asperation.
Logic = Intellagence
Charisma = Popularity
Creativity = Family
For a really hard challenge = Fortune (Ignore the skill map if chosen)
List of Toddler misions:
Walking = Manditory
Talking = Manditory
Potty Trained = Manditory
Gained one skill point = Manditory

Now for the Childhood missions:
Learn to study = Manditory
Get an A+ at least once = Manditory
Get into private school = Manditory
Be best friends with your pet = Optional
Yes you are to have a pet I forgot to say this, but when the baby is born adopt a kitten, or puppy. This pet will be the subject's life long friend that they will grow up with. The pet is optional for the challenge just know if you get the pet you must finish all pet related missions afterwards. For those who do not have the pets EP, you can do an optional mission Keep Fish tank alive for five days in a row here. If you do have pets, and want to do this mission it must be a cat, or dog.

The Teenager Misssions:
Get an A+ at least once = Manditory
Get a job = Manditory
Reach the top of job = Manditory
Have first Kiss = Manditory
Have a great party = Optional

The Young Adult Missions (Optional, but if you go to collage you must finish all of these missions)
Have at least three points in all Skills = Manditory
Make Deans list at least once every year = Manditory
Have first make out = Manditory (No you're not supposed to do this as a teen)
Have a great party = Manditory (What's collage without a party!?)
Join the secret society = Manditory
( Age the subjects pet by the amount of days spent at collage, or to save time just boolProp them into the next phase of life, unless they are already elders)

Adult Missions (If you are a fortune sim FamilyFund the subject to 100 $ after moving them in)
Reach top of career = Manditory
Get married = Manditory
Once married have first Woo-hoo = Manditory
Have two kids = Manditory
Meet a supernatural sim = Manditory
Be best friends with the super natural sim = Optional
Fulfill lifetime want = Manditory
Max out all skills = Optional ( Manditory if subject had more logic points when they became a teen)
Get a pet for your children ( If subject has a cat you must get a dog, and vise versa) = Manditory
Earn 500,000 $ = Manditory (without cheats, or custom jobs)
Be a town hero, create two lots, and add 8 sims to one of them, and 4 pets to the other. Use cheats to make them all close to starving, and uncomfortable, they may not have a house, or items, now have your subject's family make best friends with them, and move them in only one at a time, and you can't move them out, or move another one in until they are at full motives. No cheats. Do the same with the pets, you may have one of the pets, in at the same time as one of the hobos. You may sell the pets instead of moving them out, but know selling the pet you got at the newborn phase. You must familyFund the hobos to $10.00 so you don't get free money for the 500,000 goal.

Elder Missions ( Yes the subject must still do missions when they are old!)
Have two grand children = Manditory
Retire = Manditory
Build a Servo = Optional (Manditory if your a fortune sim)
Keep a high relation ship with pet (If you did the young adult challenge you were supposed to go back to your parent's house, and get you cat, or dog, then get a place of your own) (If the subject's pet died of old age before, which is likely, then forget about this mission)
Have 1,000,000 $ (Without cheats) = Manditory (If your a fortune sim)

The Grand Finale
Die of old age, and get the golden grave marker = Manditory
By the end you should have memories of all these events on your subject and three grave markers in urn or, grave stone form sitting side by side. On the far left is the pet, on the far right the subject's spouse, in the middle is the golden grave.
It's a sad ending but it's one we will remember.
If you built the servo it is to live alone in the house after the subject, it's spouse, and pet have all passed on. If you didn't build the servo move one of the subjects children in.
Your subject must be an only child, so if you have twins start over. I did this challenge with a female sim (you can have a boy, or girl subject, but whatever it's born as it must stay as) named Ariana ( You don't have to name the subject "subject" if you don't want to
Just remember only cheat where I have said to!
Enjoy!

[TheDragoon13]

Please do give feedback even if you don't like the challenge. Oh, and one more thing you're not allowed to use Elixer of Life on the subject or the necter of the cowplant, or the kibble of life, or any thing else that can refresh the subject, or it's pet. Thanks for reading!

[A.G.Doren]

Far too easy...

[TheDragoon13]

Is that so A.G.Doren? Well you try getting into the secret society without cheats, or getting into private school without cheats.

[TheDragoon13]

Please do come back, to tell me about your challenge progress, or ask questions. I'll check back to answer questions, and read your comments. Some might say this is too easy, but I test ran this challenge before posting it, It can be hard. Your sim might get sick, mine did the fist day of collage! Your sim will take time getting into the secret society, or take a few tries getting into private school. It takes a lot of work getting a toddler to walk, talk, and potty train. Not to mention building relationships with your spouse, boy/girlfriend, and pet. I did all of these things. Without cheats! Have fun!

[HaunterMooneyes]

So the point of this challenge is to play the game the way that Maxis wanted us to, basically?

[katalina522]

Getting into the Secret Society without cheats is very easy, especially if you live in a big dorm. I've done it without even meaning to. The fraternity is only slightly harder, and that's just because the greeks run around like morons if you invite them over all at once instead of figuring out who they are and befriending them over the phone first.

And if you're allowing motherlode (which is a cheat!), there is NO excuse for not getting into private school on the first try.

This is basically requiring standard gameplay, which most people will not find interesting given that the game has been out for five years!

[TheDragoon13]

Thanks for feedback people! Yes HaunterMooneyes makes a good point you are playing the game normally, but I might add some harder missions, or give it a twist etc. Just know I've never come up with a challenge before, well thanks for pointing this out HaunterMooneyes I think this weekend I'll come up with a harder more interesting challenge in the meen time I've still got school this week so stay posted! Oh, and Katalina522 I see you have an easy way into the Secret Society, I did it by going to the Old Sim State Tower in Sim State Uni. I never knew you could do it at home that is easyer. Your right though I did say you can use Motherlode, but I said you can use it "once" perhaps I should have made that clear...I'll be back soon with a newer version of the challenge that gives it a more interesting twist. Please do keep checking back anyone else that comes along or if HaunterMooneyes, or Katalina522 comes back. Thank you!

[TheDragoon13]

Be on the look out for a whole new Challenge idea by The Dragoon13. If you think this idea is easy, or simple I've got an idea that will take a month at least to complete!

[TheDragoon13]

I know this challenge is easy, and it might be about like playing the game the way Maxis wanted us to play it. So I've come up with a challenge that isn't too much harder, but it does have a bit more of a twist to it. I like doing challenges so much I'll still try to come up with much harder challenges.

[A.G.Doren]

Is that so A.G.Doren? Well you try getting into the secret society without cheats, or getting into private school without cheats.

With the exception of the occasional kaching so that my sims can purchase the clothing that I have downloaded for them I do not use any cheats. I consider most of the things on your list to part of standard gameplay and do them on a regular basis.

I recommend that you google "the sims 2 legacy challenge".

[TheDragoon13]

I have, and I have tried the legacy challenge, but my game crashed, losing the family I had going, so I gave up. What do you think my challenge is like the legacy challenge? Or was it that you think the legacy challenge is harder?

[A.G.Doren]

The spirit of your challenge is to play the game without cheats and it can be fairly difficult to so some of the things you listed with a CAS sim if you don't use cheats, however these things become easier with each successive generation.So for me the spirit of both challenges seems to be the same.

[TheDragoon13]

People keep disagreeing with my posts some even on the original post! How can you disagree with a challenge!? I think some of the people here have it out for me...or is it my signature? It's only a joke, I don't really think that Fabio, and/or the Pope will ride in on chickens to kill us all. However I stand by what I said about the creepy old man. I wish this place had an area to put reasons for agree/disagree or at least something that will say who agrees/disagrees. Someone back me up!

[TheDragoon13]

With the exception of the occasional kaching so that my sims can purchase the clothing that I have downloaded for them I do not use any cheats. I consider most of the things on your list to part of standard gameplay and do them on a regular basis.

I recommend that you google "the sims 2 legacy challenge".

Wow! When I'm not doing a challenge I use cheats like crazy in my game. In fact I boolProp the heck out of my game when not doing a challenge.

[somethingelse]

gosh the surlyness...
that'll teach a person to ask for feedback both positive and neg.

i'll probally try it, it is kinda tough, i've never had luck with private schools. and secret societys? OMG that was a sad and disheartning experience. one of the sorority girls likes the sim i tried... of course it never helps that i cant remember which is the girl one and the boy one, so i call the wrong ones...

i mean, parts of it are easy, but some of it really isnt just skittles and pie.

[A.G.Doren]

Wow! When I'm not doing a challenge I use cheats like crazy in my game. In fact I boolProp the heck out of my game when not doing a challenge.

Cheats make it too easy. I like to feel as if I'm being challenged and I feel a greater sense of satifaction when I DIY. I mean if you cheat in a game that you are playing by yourself the only person being cheated is you.

[TheDragoon13]

gosh the surlyness...
that'll teach a person to ask for feedback both positive and neg.

i'll probally try it, it is kinda tough, i've never had luck with private schools. and secret societys? OMG that was a sad and disheartning experience. one of the sorority girls likes the sim i tried... of course it never helps that i cant remember which is the girl one and the boy one, so i call the wrong ones...

i mean, parts of it are easy, but some of it really isnt just skittles and pie.
W-WHAT!? Teach me to ask for positive, and negative feedback!? Negative feedback is vary helpful, and if you can't take it you shouldn't ask for it! Why, what's the point in asking for feedback if you're not going to reply to it!? Well...thanks for trying my challenge I guess.

[TheDragoon13]

If you're not interested in this challenge, I've got a new one out called The Wonderlands Challenge. So far nobody has said anything about though.

[somethingelse]

i'll go check it out, but if it's complicated i'll get lost.

the whole "that'll teach you..." thing
total sarcasm, i think it's great you want the pos and the neg feedback.

best way to learn how to do things right, is to REALLY mess them up the first time. ok maybe not, but it IS a way that works, in real life anyway...
i'm just babbling now

[TheDragoon13]

Oh...sorry I'm really bad about picking up on sarcasm, Somethingelse. Well sorry for misunderstanding, maybe I am a tad bit...surly, I can't understand sarcasm in the real world, much less the Internet.

[somethingelse]

it's totally ok, i was actually saying that i thought some folk were being kinda surly towards you.

but yeah, sarcasm doesnt translate well over the interwebs hardly ever.

considering how many people i know who cant play without cheats at all, (i dont motherlode, if i NEED money i kaching, i feel less cheaty that way i dont know why, i call it an extra handout and make them do something they hate or something) i really dont think the concept of the chalenge was all that bad at all

the second a game is made anymore someone starts figuring out cheats for it, and "who are we cheating"? i'd have to say no one really. not if we're having fun.

i have a few families i did motherlode into fantastic houses, i have some i started dirt poor, bought them a lot, and trees, maybe an orchard tree or 2, no house and made them bust their butt for what they have now.

i couldnt tell you which was more fun, cause they're all fun for different reasons

as i said, i dont think this is "far too easy"

i have a child sim with an older sister in uni. if i skip the toddler part could i use her? just to give an official shot at a challenge a try? cause i dont remember if i cheated her at all durring toddlerhood, but if i note it on her bio i can probally not cheat her again

[A.G.Doren]

I find The Sims to be easy as it is. There are no real consequences in the game if I mess up something, sims are kind of difficult to kill in normal game play, the bills are miniscule, etc....
I stay away from any cheats that take the challenge out of the game. I'll use hacks if I want to play out a specific story or scenario and I look for hacks that expand game play or add challenge to the game, like the mortgage shrub,higher bills, private school tution etc...


Games are played for the fun and enjoyment of the player. Part of the fun and enjoyment of any game IMO is meeting the challenge of the game itself no matter if that challenge happens to be running faster than your friends,getting a ball into a hoop, honing your reflexes and concentration so that your character can dodge 100 lightning strikes in a row or managing a sim's household on their minimal income while they make that slow and steady climb up their employement ladder.

When you buy a game you are buying that challenge. So when you cheat you cheat yourself out of that potential satisfaction.

And yes I do understand that it is just game. :jest:

[somethingelse]

ya see i at least partway hear ya.

my husband, when he plays, he immediately motherlodes them till they'll never have another money worry, then he does it again just for fun.

i take their money they start with, and do my best, sometimes spend it a specific way to meet a chalenge requirement, try my hardest not to cheat, but it's tough sometimes. really with all the "manditory's" i didnt think this challenge was going to be easy at all. i'll find out next time i get a chance to play for a while.

[TheDragoon13]

Yes, Somethingelse, I don't care if you want to use a Toddler from the start, it was more of a guide line that you not let them have siblings because that makes it hard. If you want to start with a toddler go ahead, but make sure they fulfill the Toddler missions, and add something hard to do when they are an elder to make up for skipping Infant-hood. Let me know what you think of for your extra elder mission, I might add it to the challenge.

[grammapat]

You Go, Dragoon! As challenges go, it's not bad, and more thought out than lots. And I get your sense of humor ..pope,chicken, end of world.LOL. Ya just never know about peoples response to a challenges; I've seen some really lame ("easy") ones, but I wrote one I thought was a hoot and nobody liked it..

[karrie85]

I actually like this challenge a lot. I hardly play my game as the game intends and with all the mandatory goals or 'missions' in the challenge, it will actually be really fun to play. So I'm actually going to bookmark and try it out once I'm finished with a current project. :)

[Sudsy173]

Hmmm.... This sounds like a lot of fun. One quick question though. Can I start with a toddler and one adult in CAS, or is that cheating? I don't like having more than a couple sims in a house at once.
:gjob:

[Sudsy173]

I am currently trying with one toddler and one adult both made in CAS. They also have a kitten. I just made it through toddlerhood, and let me tell you this is not easy with only one parent. But it's perfect for me because ILove a good challenge.
Great challenge! Thank you.

[Sudsy173]

People keep disagreeing with my posts some even on the original post! How can you disagree with a challenge!? I think some of the people here have it out for me...or is it my signature? It's only a joke, I don't really think that Fabio, and/or the Pope will ride in on chickens to kill us all. However I stand by what I said about the creepy old man. I wish this place had an area to put reasons for agree/disagree or at least something that will say who agrees/disagrees. Someone back me up!

I agree... Btw, I love your signature and think that it is the funniest thing ever!

[TheDragoon13]

Hey thanks, I have a talent for coming up with the most random phrases, yet I almost never have use for them. Your, "Let's eat grandma! Let's eat, grandma! Punctuation saves lives." Is funny as well, but isn't it something from Facebook? I'm not on Facebook, but I know some people who are. You are brave though, I've never been able to raise a sim with less then one caretaker, unless you count a Servo that adopted. Good luck!

[Sudsy173]

Hehehe. Thanks. Im not on facebook either, so I wouldn't know....

[A.G.Doren]

So I was looking back at this the other day and I realized I missed the business about the wealth sim earning 500,000 during the adult lifespan and a 1 million by death. The "impossible lifetime want" for wealth sims 100,000, this should be difficult, so I guess I'll be playing this challenge after all. However the parents will be a having a few kids, and I'll play which ever one I like best for my ultimate wealth sim or maybe I'll play each of them in their own home...Don't know yet.

[TheDragoon13]

So I was looking back at this the other day and I realized I missed the business about the wealth sim earning 500,000 during the adult lifespan and a 1 million by death. The "impossible lifetime want" for wealth sims 100,000, this should be difficult, so I guess I'll be playing this challenge after all. However the parents will be a having a few kids, and I'll play which ever one I like best for my ultimate wealth sim or maybe I'll play each of them in their own home...Don't know yet.
Alright, like I told someone else the no siblings is more of a guide line. Well have fun, and come back to tell us how you're doing.

[TheDragoon13]

Just a tip, if you make it to the top of your job, it shouldn't be too hard reaching 500,000 before you become an elder. What I think will be hardest for a fortune sim is working on the robotics badge, whilst still earning money.

[lauratje86]

Almost all my sims make it to the top of at least one career, and they rarely even make $100,000, let alone $500,000 or $1 million! Am I doing something wrong, or have other people also found this to be the case?

[esmesqualor]

WooHoo after marriage? I may have just disqualified my subject. But they're engaged! His childhood sweetheart!

Where do you find out how much is earned? Are cash perks in OFB included in this? What about the selling of date and networking gifts?

ETA: I'm just doing everything bakcwrads. He's at Uni now, but he's already friended the Grand High Wizard and is a wizard now himself (that was supposed to happen when he's an adult). Even if he's disqualified, can I still brag about him? He's the most ultimate sim I've ever had.

[A.G.Doren]

WooHoo after marriage? I may have just disqualified my subject. But they're engaged! His childhood sweetheart!

ETA: I'm just doing everything bakcwrads. He's at Uni now, but he's already friended the Grand High Wizard and is a wizard now himself (that was supposed to happen when he's an adult). Even if he's disqualified, can I still brag about him? He's the most ultimate sim I've ever had.

I've never read of sims challenge where players followed the rules exactly. So by all means tell us about your ultimate sim.

Almost all my sims make it to the top of at least one career, and they rarely even make $100,000, let alone $500,000 or $1 million! Am I doing something wrong, or have other people also found this to be the case?

This squares with my understanding of the game. I've been coming up with strategeys on how to increase my sim's earning potential. I've had numerous sims reach the top of their career track without earrning 100,000.So are these sims using the elixir of life which increases their earning years or what?

[esmesqualor]

Okay, then. I had gotten him to the Uni bin, but lost interest until the ‘why is uni boring thread’. So, here goes:

Subject is Hawthorne Sixpence. Born to Gaston and Antigone Sixpence of 35 Woodland Drive, Pleasantview. Gaston is a SWAT Team Leader, Antigone is a general (too bad her LTW was to be Chief of Staff).

Hawthorne got all the toddler skills without smart milk – and I always use smart milk. It was pretty close, but he got potty trained before his birthday. I can’t remember how many points he had for each skill – I usually get three each while they’re toddlers – but he had the most in logic, so he’s a knowledge sim. Leaned to study from Antigone and got A+.

I did use kaching (rather than motherlode) to get the house all pretty for the the headmaster so Hawthorne could get into private school. I usually don’t do teen jobs, so when he came back from his first day at work promoted to the top of the career, I thought something goofy was going on – and it was a custom career. So, Hawthorne quit that job and got another job in politics. I learned that private school kids start at the 2nd level. And because Hawthorne had all the needed skills and friends, he was promoted to the top of the career after the first day, again. (I did not know this was how you got an over-achiever.) Because there wasn’t anything about keeping the job, after two days I had him quit so he could continue skilling.

I was worried about his love life - or lack thereof – but Lucy Burb wasn’t too annoyed by him. He fell in love with her and they had their first kiss.

Hawthorne had the following scholarships: Sim City Scholar’s grant, Bain-Gordon Communications Fellowship, Quigley Visual Arts Stipend.

He’s at Brainania (downloaded from here). His first week was rough because I hadn’t played him in a while and forgot what it takes to get his fun level up fast. I put a TV in his dorm room, but he did the slump-shoulder-You’re-Making-Me-Do-That? thing. I tried having him play chess, but he didn’t feel like it. He was redlining fun, so I sent him off campus and finally got him to a pool and had him float on his back until he was max happiness.

Other than that, he’s been easy to play through Uni – has made Dean’s list each semester. He’s saving that money to buy a robotics station and small store.

He’s a Sagittarius, 9 Active, 7 Playful, 1 Grouchy. He hates watching TV and giving backrubs. He cheats at chess. His LTW is max all skills – he’s maxed Charisma already. Logic and Body are almost done. He’s an Evil Warlock (first time I’ve done that without cheating) and he’s engaged to Lucy Burb. He needs to friend one more Sim to be in the Secret Society. He’s been staying gold to platinum so he’s been able to use the helmet while skilling. He's been a lot of fun to play.

[TheDragoon13]

It would appear that I made a slight mistake, forgive me, I think I meant 100,000 at adult, and 500,000 at elder.

[karrie85]

A tiny update. I haven't gotten to play much on this challenge, but I DID start it and got to the point where the subject was born. I'm hoping to play some of it this weekend. Been busy with other things, but really miss my desktop sims. (i have sims on laptop and desktop though desktop is more serious gameplay)

Anywho, here is some picture updates of how my challenge is going:

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This is the subjects Mommy and Daddy. Their names are Fria and Harold Estachez.

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I got them to try for the baby right when I first played so, step one of the challenge done.

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The subject was born. It's a girlie and her name is Mekara <3

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After that I only got through a day of her babyhood because I had to get to real life things. Anyway, I'm really enjoying this and looking forward to the missions!

[somethingelse]

wait a sec? no woohoo before marriage?

my sims will never make it...

[A.G.Doren]

500,000 is more of challenge; as impossible as it seems I may go for that or some other number higher than 100,000.

[esmesqualor]

It would appear that I made a slight mistake, forgive me, I think I meant 100,000 at adult, and 500,000 at elder.

I have an elder-actually-dies-in-a-reasonable-amount-of-time mod, so I don't think I'll make the 500,000. Then again, I've never tried for 100,000 - so I don't know if I'll make that either. (I didn't even know that you find this in their memories.)

It looks like the money they get at college goes towards earnings. It also looks like the cash prizes in OFB don't. Can anyone confirm this?

[TheDragoon13]

If you want to go for over 100,000 all the better to you, just a few tips, you may have all the businesses you want, or you may have the subject's spouse get a job. You can also have the subject's children get jobs when they are teens, as long as the subject has the money it does not matter how he, or she gets it. Just make sure the subject still reaches the top of their job.

[TheDragoon13]

If you are interested I'm allowing the following:
Step 1, make the three adult version of the challenge, the use testing cheats, (boolProp testingCheatsEnabled true)
Step 2, wait for night time, the press the shift key, and click on the telescope.
Step 3 click Get Abducted.
Step 4, Turn off testing cheats so you are not tempted to cheat more in the challenge, (boolProp testingCheatsEnabled false)
I find that this can make the challenge more interesting, just know testing cheats can cause problems if you do it too much.

[esmesqualor]

updates with pics

Subject as adult:
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Subject's parents: Antigone and Gaston Sixpence
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Subject with future wife Lucy Burb
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Subject with first born son, Massimo
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Completed missions
Young Adult:
Joined secret society
Had first make-out
Had first woo hoo (but they were engaged!)
Met supernatural and made best friends with supernatural
(Became warlock and reached maximum wickedness)
Achieved LTW of Max Skills
(Opened first business - F.N. Robots)
Made Dean's List 7 times
Graduated Summa Cum Laude
Had great graduation party

Adult:
Married Lucy Burb
Fullfilled second LTW - Reached top of medical career
Had two kids
(Reached Max magical)
Master Roboteer - Made Servo
(Master of Sales)
(Sold great novel)
(Earned Best of the Best for two businesses)
(Earned 50000)


Because money is the thing now, once Hawthorne became Chief of Staff, he quit and started in the Natural Science career. He has 10 BFF's and was trying for the next - but unfortunately she walked a bit too close to the cow plant.

F.N. Robots was doing well until his second hire - stupid kid threw a water balloon at the reviewer and now he has a bad review.

[TheDragoon13]

Good job! I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about the no woo-hoo before marrage thing, oh well I don't think anybody follows challenges to the letter, but I don't mind. Is your robot shop's name supposed to be a pun, or am I thinking too far away from the box? You did well to fulfill two lifetime wants in one subject, but I only count the first one in the goals, I don't see much point in why maxis made to where you could do this anyway. One life time want is all you really need, platinum for the rest of your life, a truck load of points, I guess the second one is for greedy players that want more points.

[TheDragoon13]

Before I posted this challenge, I did a test run, for those of you that have questions, I'll post my test run's story here as an example. I started with 3 adult sims from CAS, Lazlo, named after the Lazlo in Strange Town, Lance, named after the Lance from Symbionic Titan, and Illana. I made them siblings, to remake the Strange Town version. I like to play as alien sims so I did my best to remake the Strange Town scene. This is why I have allowed alien subjects, by the way. While Lance became the subject's father Lazlo made friends with Lucky the Demon-Hound, no I really did not use cheats for this to happen I turned them off right after Lance was taken, so Lazlo is a Werewolf. A few sim days later Ariana the subject of my challenge was born, her sign is Cancer. I don't know why all of my aliens are born girls. I don't have time to type much more, but know this, when she was a toddler she got two logic points, but only one creativity, so I made her a Knoledge sim later on. To be continued...

[esmesqualor]

Thanks! It almost feels like cheating because this sim's a warlock - but he had that want. I'll have to do it again with a fortune sim.

I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about the no woo-hoo before marrage thing...

Because you said 'manditory'. :)

Yeah, the store name is what you think - it's not original, but I think it's appropriate.

[TheDragoon13]

When I invited the Headmaster over, I had Lazlo, and Illana go hide in one room, I then had Lance lock the room. I did this because Lazlo, and Illana have a strange habit of throwing water balloons at people that they really should not do that to. Note: I never said you can't lock some sims in a room, if it's just for one mission. After a tour of the house, Lance was done cooking dinner. I made sure Moonstone, Ariana's cat was locked out side so she wouldn't beg. Ariana mad it into private school, and once she had an A+, and learned to study I had her practice chess a lot, for the logic skill. Because she had more logic when she grew from toddler, to child she will be a Knoledge sim. When she grew from child to teen, she had about 4-5 logic points. I had her get a job that vary night. The Cooking career track was her choice. Later on I'll tell you all about how the house was left in shambles by the time she left for college.

[babyblueearly4]

I don't think you should make it so people have to wait until college to have their first make-out, or wait until marriage to have first woo-hoo. Many people these days don't observe these constraints in real life. I think it should count no matter when it happens. I mean, honestly, your life isn't ruined if you make out with someone when you're a teen; and most people these days lose their virginity before their junior year in high school!

Not saying that it's wrong for you or others to play the game like that, I'm just saying that I think you should also cater to the people who wish to play their game differently.

Besides, a teen pregnancy, or getting caught cheating might add a bit of spice to the challenge, and make it a little harder :p

[TheDragoon13]

I don't think you should make it so people have to wait until college to have their first make-out, or wait until marriage to have first woo-hoo. Many people these days don't observe these constraints in real life. I think it should count no matter when it happens. I mean, honestly, your life isn't ruined if you make out with someone when you're a teen; and most people these days lose their virginity before their junior year in high school!

Not saying that it's wrong for you or others to play the game like that, I'm just saying that I think you should also cater to the people who wish to play their game differently.

Besides, a teen pregnancy, or getting caught cheating might add a bit of spice to the challenge, and make it a little harder :p

...Whatever you say, the challenge was supposed to be baced off of the idea that the subject follows all the rules, does their best in school, and work. I don't see how on Earth teen pregnancy could make it harder, or more fun for that matter, but it seems like it would not only be cheating, it would totaly miss the point of the challenge by far!

[TheDragoon13]

After Ariana became an Overreacher, I had her throw the optional teen party mission. The house was packed, because I baced the challenge in my custom town, I only had custom sims visit for the party. I had a table of food the house was clean, all was well, at first. Lazlo, and Illana for some reason both wanted to look at the art in the bathroom, at the same time, two of the guests had to use the toilet. Ariana had her first kiss, and the bathroom was destroyed. I did mannage to end the party with a Roof Raiser score. Ariana did get the flu however, and even if you have a sim with the flu move to college, they still have their flu. To be continued...

[Cheese678]

After Ariana became an Overreacher, I had her throw the optional teen party mission. The house was packed, because I baced the challenge in my custom town, I only had custom sims visit for the party. I had a table of food the house was clean, all was well, at first. Lazlo, and Illana for some reason both wanted to look at the art in the bathroom, at the same time, two of the guests had to use the toilet. Ariana had her first kiss, and the bathroom was destroyed. I did mannage to end the party with a Roof Raiser score. Ariana did get the flu however, and even if you have a sim with the flu move to college, they still have their flu. To be continued...

OH BOY I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT

I bet she gets a cure.

[TheDragoon13]

OH BOY I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT

I bet she gets a cure.

...Sarcasm!? Oh well, here it is cheese, the next part of the story. Sim State University a fine place for a sim or challenge subject to go to learn. Ariana moved into the landgrabb dorms, she had to miss her first class to stay in bed. No, cheese, I do not have the EP for a flu cure, so she just had to relax for a day. After she got better, and brought her grade up in the Science class, I had her go looking for Secret Society members. I looked in the gym, the quad, and the library, and no sign of the Secret Society, so I looked near the Old Sim State Tower, and what do you know, they were there, in uniform just sitting around. To be continued...

[katalina522]

No, cheese, I do not have the EP for a flu cure, so she just had to relax for a day...

The biotech station comes with the base game, so yes, you actually do. It's the career reward for the scientist track. You have to make your sim create medicine with it, if they do it properly they can drink it to cure illness.

[TheDragoon13]

Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you.

Edit: I was the one who clicked helpful on your post.

[TheDragoon13]

Hey! Have any of you noticed how the agree/disagree buttons a locked? It's like they are no longer a feature of Mod The Sims, I mean, they even took the counters from them. Maybe it's just me?

[Cheese678]

Hey! Have any of you noticed how the agree/disagree buttons a locked? It's like they are no longer a feature of Mod The Sims, I mean, they even took the counters from them. Maybe it's just me?

I guess it's just you. And I can't wait to find out what happens next.

[TheDragoon13]

...And I can't wait to find out what happens next.
Okay then, after the subject joined the Secret Society it left me lots of time to focus on her grades. By the time she finished the second year, she had made the Dean's List three times. Towards the end of her next semester, she was able to move into a rented house. By this time she has finished the following missions:

Join the Secret Society, Check.
Have first make-out, Check.
Have at least three points in all skill types, Check.

Next time I'll tell you all about her collage 'Manditory' party. To be continued...

[esmesqualor]

Good luck on your party. I had forgotten about that, and just squeaked by with a graduation party. My subject just had a birthday party for his youngest son. You know, it was going great until the last 50 seconds when it just tanked. I don't understand what happened - I've had sims die at parties and they were still great. Or maybe that's why they were great... :heyhey: Next time I won't fence off the cow plant!

I didn't do the pet because I don't have Pets and I didn't do the fish because my graphics are so bad I can't see the fish - but, I just remembered there's this little dog-like... thing with AL. So, we will be getting a critter after all.

[TheDragoon13]

Good luck on your party. I had forgotten about that, and just squeaked by with a graduation party. My subject just had a birthday party for his youngest son. You know, it was going great until the last 50 seconds when it just tanked. I don't understand what happened - I've had sims die at parties and they were still great. Or maybe that's why they were great... :heyhey: Next time I won't fence off the cow plant!

I didn't do the pet because I don't have Pets and I didn't do the fish because my graphics are so bad I can't see the fish - but, I just remembered there's this little dog-like... thing with AL. So, we will be getting a critter after all.

I don't have Apartment Life so you'll have to fill me in on how that works. My subject's teen party had a death too. I don't know what killed that sim though, because it happened when Ariana had her first kiss. I would post pictures of Ariana, and her family, but I can't seem to find them.

[TheDragoon13]

So, is my test run story helping any of you? Well here is the next part of the story. Ariana mannaged to get enough money, to move into a rented house. Using stuff I had her put in her pocket, she did not have to spend much money. I had her take everything from her room, before moving to collage, and I had her take everything from her dorm room before leaving for this house. Her house was small, so it was a big mistake, when I invited seven people over for her party. These are the people she invited:

Lance, Illana, and Lazlo Luneth (Her family, and yes Luneth is a reference to Final Fantasy)
3 Members of the Secret Society
And last, but not least, A recreation of a Men In Black character.

I still mannaged to squeeze by with a good party, even though the small space made most of them get cramped into one room, the T.V. room. We're almost to the Adult phase of the challenge.

[A.G.Doren]

Keep it up Dragoon.

I built a lovely and brightly colored house, I moved in Honore Vonschopenschnope and Erik Ryder,as roommates. Since their job is to raise three children I made them compatable with each other and since I run ACR and Inteen I got them jobs and let their courtship take care of itself, only disabling autowoohoo. Since the children are expected to wait until marriage I figured I'd let the parent set the example.

So after a very endearing courtship (of which I thought I took pictures, but didn't) Honore and Erik were married. Their wedding party was roofraiser and Erik Ryder became Erik VonschnopenSchnope. Not long after the after the first child was concieved.

Subject 1# failure- pregnancy resulted in stillbirth at 7 months.

Subject2# Trust Vonschnopenschnope:
gender: male
current age-child
all toddler missions: completed
transition status:platinum
pet: feline,male still kitten

Subject 2#- Steadfast VonschnopenSchnope
gender:male
current age: infant

Hopfeully I'll post a link for pictures this weekend.

[TheDragoon13]

Your doing good, A.G. Doren, I found some pictures of my subject, Ariana Luneth, which I'll try to post here as soon as figure out how. So, did you think of that last name your self, or what?

[A.G.Doren]

Your doing good, A.G. Doren, I found some pictures of my subject, Ariana Luneth, which I'll try to post here as soon as figure out how. So, did you think of that last name your self, or what?

My sister was in CAS and she combined two sims from my sim bin and made this gorgeous female sims that I had to play with. So we spawned me an identical sim, this was Honore and she picked the last name because she was feeling. So Honore has a twin sister.

I wasn't feeling so great after the miscarriage. I haven't had a miscarriage in my game since I first installed that hack and then I had two in two seperate households on the same play session.

[TheDragoon13]

Oh, okay. I was sitting here thinking that miscarriages were something that came with a later EP. It makes more sence that they came from a kack. Good luck with your two subjects.

[TheDragoon13]

My subject made it to Sr. year, the final stretch. She has fulfilled her life time want already of Max All Skills. I made maxing all skills, and reaching the life time want, Adult goals just to make sure everyone had lots of time to do this. However, I am giving the reward of bonus bragging rights if you can do this in the subjects collage years, because I think it is quite a feat. This is one of the only goals you are allowed to do early, just remember, no cheats. Also I've had an interesting idea, who here thinks it would be fun to do five whole generations with the subject being the founder, and have each generation fulfill the same goals of the subject. Minus the Elder missions. Just an idea, it's not manditory, but please let me know what you think.

[A.G.Doren]

My subject made it to Sr. year, the final stretch. She has fulfilled her life time want already of Max All Skills. I made maxing all skills, and reaching the life time want, Adult goals just to make sure everyone had lots of time to do this. However, I am giving the reward of bonus bragging rights if you can do this in the subjects collage years, because I think it is quite a feat. This is one of the only goals you are allowed to do early, just remember, no cheats. Also I've had an interesting idea, who here thinks it would be fun to do five whole generations with the subject being the founder, and have each generation fulfill the same goals of the subject. Minus the Elder missions. Just an idea, it's not manditory, but please let me know what you think.


*cough*Legacy*cough* challenge.

[TheDragoon13]

*cough*Legacy*cough* challenge.

Hey, I'm just trying to make it harder, you try making an origanal idea for making it harder! Alright, fine, I'll come up with something even harder, then the Legacy challenge, and the ISBI challenge, AND, the Asylum, all put together...okay mabe not that hard, but pretty hard. :lol:

[TheDragoon13]

Well, I still haven't thought of a harder bonus mission. However, I do have the next part of the story, after Ariana finished Sr. year she had a graduation party. She invited 3 sims this time, and made it an outdoor party. I had a Wata Buffet, or whatever it's called, and a bubble-blower. I've never used the bubble-blower before, but I think there is more to it then bubbles. I know it's just a game, but I've never known a bubble-blower that makes you float, or giggle THAT much. Anyway the party was a failure, but that's okay because I've already had a great college party. Ariana, and her elder cat, Moonstone, moved into a house that I built. Ariana then got a job in the Science career. Will her rank climb faster then mine!? To be continued...

[A.G.Doren]

Hey, I'm just trying to make it harder, you try making an origanal idea for making it harder! Alright, fine, I'll come up with something even harder, then the Legacy challenge, and the ISBI challenge, AND, the Asylum, all put together...okay mabe not that hard, but pretty hard. :lol:

Chill, dude...

You could add handicaps...or I don't know your Wonderland challenge is good.I'm sure you can come up with something.

[TheDragoon13]

Chill, dude...

You could add handicaps...or I don't know your Wonderland challenge is good.I'm sure you can come up with something.
Thanks, but I was just joking, as the :lol: should show. I'll have to think about some handicaps.

[TheDragoon13]

What the heck!? There is a disagree on every post I've made on this page. Dang it, whould you people stop disagreeing with things that can't be disagreed with.

[TheDragoon13]

I've got it! The perfect optional mission to add to the Adult phase. The town hero mission. I'll edit into the first post of this thread if you are interested. I've also got a few handicap ideas to put up sometime.

[TaliaKirana]

Don't get so upset about some disagree clicks. In the end, this is just a message-board on the internet.

[TheDragoon13]

Ariana soon met Malcolm Heart a Family sim of my creation. After two sim days, Ariana was engaged to him. I took it slow, for a change, because my subject is the type to think things through, as should yours. Moonstone is lazy, now, and does not do much more then the AI sit action, now that he's an elder. Next time, I'll tell you about the marriage. To be continued...

P.S. While you may marry your subject to a CAS sim, you must choose personality, and asperation by random, you may use whatever method you choose to do this.

[TheDragoon13]

Ariana got married under an arch, to Malcolm Heart. Because I never liked having wedding parties the only witness was Ariana's cat, Moonstone. That night, Ariana, and Malcolm tried for a baby. Ariana did not become pregnant, and nor did Malcolm. (Ariana is an alien if you'll recall) Ariana has earned 4,566. What I do is, everytime the info box tells me I've earned money I write the number down on paper, then when I want to know how much is earned, I just add it up. You only have to earn it, not keep it. 500,000 here I come. The Perfect Sim Challenge here seems to be losing interest of other users...Could it be because everyone is working on their challenge, or is it because they just don't give a flying Pop Tart anymore. Personaly I like the fudge flavored ones, but not the ones that keep burning down sims. and their houses. Well anyway, my sims have started acting like normal humans, Ariana sitting in the kittchen at 4:30 A.M. playing with Moonstone, Malcolm roaming around the house at all hours of the night in his underwear, both of them throwing trash on the ground, because of a glitch that is all my fault. Before the Luneth, now Heart family moved into this house, I was playing with the moveObjects on cheat, and now the trash can that is outside all Sims 2 houses is gone, oops. It was such a great house, I didn't want to get rid of it, so I kept it where it was until I found a way to get the can back. I had forgotten about this, and moved Ariana in. Her kittchen can is full so now they just toss it on the ground, it's maddening. To be continued...

[lauratje86]

You can download a buyable trashcan here (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=218727) and the your sims can buy it in-game and place it on the lot where you accidentally deleted it. That should solve your trash problem! :-)

[TheDragoon13]

You can download a buyable trashcan here (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=218727) and the your sims can buy it in-game and place it on the lot where you accidentally deleted it. That should solve your trash problem! :-)

Thank you ever so much, I'll be sure to try that.

[TheDragoon13]

The trash can works. Too bad I'll only need it once, because now everytime, I play it asks me if I want to enable custom content. People around here must be busy, nobody is saying anything, but me. People must be board with this thread.

[TheDragoon13]

Hey! Where did everyone go!? It's been days since anybody's posted here. Did you all drop off the face of the Earth!? Did the real world eat you!? Well, whatever, This post should put the thread at the top of the list, in order to get attention.

[Kailacat]

11. No Double Posting: Use the edit button - if someone has not replied since you and you have something to add or change in your original post after you've hit reply, use edit.

12. Do Not Bump Threads/No Threadcromancy: Do not post to an old thread just to bump it up to the top of the forum if you have nothing new to add, or to get it more visible (especially if it's your thread!) Don't resurrect old threads unless your comments are relevant and would be seen as a important addition to a thread. Continuing on a conversation dropped months ago is not a good idea - check dates.

Just saying. :|

Why don't you post some pictures? Not all people can read straight through walls of text (me included.) That might make it more appealing :)

[TheDragoon13]

I don't know how to post pictures from my Sims game, I can post all other pictures, but I can't post sim pictures.

[esmesqualor]

Sorry TheDragoon13. I ended up re-starting my 'hood. :(

But I had fun. I don't normally make my simkids get jobs or go to private school and I actually had fun playing uni. So, this was a good challenge for me. I'll have to try again for the simoleans.

[A.G.Doren]

Hiya Dragoon-

This thread has gotten to long for me to view from work which is where I mainly view mod the sims from. Right now my family for this challenge is at the far end of my rotation so I haven't had anything to mention for a while. That said I finally posted the first pictures to my LJ this weekend and I just gotta figure out how I'm planning to link them here.


edit>

If this works this is a link to a little prolouge before the challenge itself:

<a href="http://sjoisan.livejournal.com/"> <img src="http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b475/AGDoren/Honore%20Vonschopenschnop/19.jpg" /> </a>

Introducing Honore Vonschopenschnope.

[Selly_2009]

A. G. Doren: are you wanting the picture as the link? If so, I think I've fixed the coding for you ;) :

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b475/AGDoren/Honore%20Vonschopenschnop/19.jpg (http://sjoisan.livejournal.com)

Btw, Honore looks gorgeous! I love her!

[TheDragoon13]

Hiya Dragoon-

This thread has gotten to long for me to view from work which is where I mainly view mod the sims from. Right now my family for this challenge is at the far end of my rotation so I haven't had anything to mention for a while. That said I finally posted the first pictures to my LJ this weekend and I just gotta figure out how I'm planning to link them here.


edit>

If this works this is a link to a little prolouge before the challenge itself:

<a href="http://sjoisan.livejournal.com/"> <img src="http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b475/AGDoren/Honore%20Vonschopenschnop/19.jpg" /> </a>

Introducing Honore Vonschopenschnope.
Oh, aliright. I thought everyone just got bored, and left. Well, when you get back to your challenge I'll be happy to hear about it. :D

[dayshababy]

I used to play this game all the time with no cheats or hacks but then I discovered them and now I am addicted. It my be nice to play without cheats. They need AA for Adicted Sims Hackers/Cheaters. I have a problem. Someone help me!!!

[TheDragoon13]

!? Uhm, Okay...I guess it's nice to see someone new joining the challenge. I don't know what to tell you about your 'problem' after all, this website was made for people who want to cheat/hack their games.

[TheDragoon13]

A further upgraded (way upgraded) vesion of this challenge has been released to the public on another thread called It's a Hard Challenge Dang It! If you are interested in a challenge made by The Dragoon13 himself that is litteraly harder then the Legacy, Asylum, and Apocolypse challenges combined. Why!? Because I used only the hardest material from those said challenges, and pushed them to be even harder. My new challenge will last 20 sim generations, so only come if you are VARY patiant. :heyhey:

[selfmadequeen]

TheDragoon13 I'm kinda interested to hear how YOU play your game normally since your challenge resembles the way I ideally like to play my game. My Sims tend to lead impossibly perfect lives! LOL

[The_Dragoon]

TheDragoon13 I'm kinda interested to hear how YOU play your game normally since your challenge resembles the way I ideally like to play my game. My Sims tend to lead impossibly perfect lives! LOL

Hey, what's going on....Sorry, I've been gone for eternity....(And yes, I'm the same Dragoon as The Dragoon13, I made this new account for a few reasons, that are at the time unimportant)

On a related subject, I have my own forum now, where I shall begin uploading Sims 2 stuff, and hopefully Sims 3 (Believe it, or not, I still like Sims 2 a lot better) And of course, Minecraft worlds, if anyone here plays that, too.

Now, back to your question...

I generally play a different way with every family I make...

I often make a back story for a Sim BEFORE I make them, in order to have guidelines to play by. In other words, if I were to re-make The Pope as a Sim, I wouldn't make him a Romance Sim, and I wouldn't have him ogle ladies. Or having rich, or over all "popular" sims act snooty, or rude to "commoners".

But, unless I'm specifically playing a challenge, like Serial Killer, Asylum, or Legacy, I generally just do whatever I darn well please.

So while I usually build skills, and "whatnot" I don't do it like an OCD driven maniac that has to have a Sim be as successful as possible, and do everything in life in their life in a timely manner. (So this challenge is a bit hard for me...)

So, now that I'm back, feel free to say stuff, ask more questions, or even join my forum, where I will soon have tons of goodies for Sims, and Minecraft up for Download, all made by me. (And/or my team, that I'm assembling, Dragoon Inc.)

I hate to "self advertise" like this so bluntly, but there's only like...5 people hanging around my place, and two of them enjoy trolling. And...I am desperate to see some fresh faces...

[The_Dragoon]

MTS does not allow two membership accounts. I think you need to permanently disable or tell a mod to permanently disable your other one. :)

I don't get the point in that at all, since I'm not going to log back into the other one. And even if I did, I wouldn't even know how to do anything bad with the power of two accounts.

But if you insist, I'll go track a moderator down....