Rejected for looking 'Too European'

[simsgalore]

I submitted 4 Japanese women, and they were rejected because, I quote, they were "too European looking." I understandJapanese people are from Asia, but not all people look the same, so how does one know when a Japanese person looks-like someone, from say, England? I know there is a large difference, but if it is based on their face structure, that is quite racist, considering the site REJECTED them for looking too EUROPEAN. I'm sure that'll make the European users happy to know.

I even know people that look like the ones I submitted, that's how I had gotten the facial structure, from them. I'm not just saying this to defend myself and make the staff sound wrong, but, they are. Please respond, do you agree?

[o0cyane0o]

uhhhh, do you have pictures so we can judge for ourselves? that would help your plea.

[~kathy~]

Yeah you know you should address this in private and not on the public forum. Im sure they had their reasons.

[Darkmoon]

I'm sorry, but all the japanese people I know.....even outsite of Japan, don't even look close to European.

....and I have tried to make Asian Sims myself, without any big success.
They really looked too European.

[o0cyane0o]

i guess that's a no on the posting pictures thing. Oh well, on a side note it is very hard to make sims that look asian and are still marginly attractive. Lol, try to make Lucy Lu! That one will kill you!!!!!!! well too bad for your misfortune, just know it's hard for everyone to make asian sims, and if you can then you have a real talent.

[Bishounen_Taurus]

I was able to make a character resembling an oriental person. It's not too hard, but mine is based on Jun kazama from tekken. I did use reference to the character, but considering she's a game character she might not be realistic enough. Although it did take some time, it's hard to make an oriental person without getting the polygons mixed up...

(see Jun at www.bishounentaurus.com)

[angelmarie123]

I submitted 4 Japanese women, and they were rejected because, I quote, they were "too European looking." I understandJapanese people are from Asia, but not all people look the same, so how does one know when a Japanese person looks-like someone, from say, England? I know there is a large difference, but if it is based on their face structure, that is quite racist, considering the site REJECTED them for looking too EUROPEAN. I'm sure that'll make the European users happy to know.

I even know people that look like the ones I submitted, that's how I had gotten the facial structure, from them. I'm not just saying this to defend myself and make the staff sound wrong, but, they are. Please respond, do you agree?
do not feel bad...i have decided to stop uploading any of my sims here because of the reasons they give me or lack of sometimes. i, too, submitted an Asian sim...a beautiful one, and they rejected her each time never stating why. then, i was scolded for trying to upload a sim in the sims and families thread, stating that the sims and families thread was for celeb lookalikes, self, and unusual sims.....i guess i was just stupid to assume that my sim did belong in a thread called sims and families.....whatever. i would say that it's not worth the time to mess around trying to upload your sims here...especially after a comment like that. just submit them to the exchange....http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/sim_detail.php?asset_id=151448&asset_type=sim&user_id=2212
there's my Asian sim(look at the picture i submitted, it is more accurate) she is beautiful, and i have no idea why she was rejected.

[Drakron]

The problem in doing asian skins is that you end up needing a custom skin color and you have to exagerate facial features, the eyes expecialy.

[angelmarie123]

why would you need a custom color? Asians come in all colors and looks, just like every other race does. even still, thats no excuse for them saying his sims were too european. i have seen Asians who look White just as I have seen Indians and Black people who look White. i dont think they should be able to just say, "youre sims' not Asian looking enough or your sim is too European" that is a racist and stereotypical comment.

[NarcoticSuite]

Try to consider the context for their reason rather than blaming it on racism. Their reason for rejecting your skin is acceptable. If they didn't enforce some sort of control over the site's contents then the site would lose it's diversity. All the skins could potentionally look very similar and thus the site would lose its appeal of variety. Whatever their reasons though, at the end of the day it's their site, we don't have to pay for anything on here so it's a privilage to be on this website, so whatever they say, goes. If you don't like that then there's nothing from stopping you going to another site.

[Faylen]

Ummm. Why does this seem unreasonable? I don't do the accepting or rejecting, but I can see that if someone said to me "Here's an asian skin" and it looked Caucasian (do you like that better than "european"?) I'd reject it. If skins started showing up here that didn't look enough like what they were billed as to the users downloading them, there'd be a lot of angry posts and messages. Because Asian skins are so hard to do in the game, and because few really good ones exist, people are looking for >excellent< ones here.

[s.w]

The problem in doing asian skins is that you end up needing a custom skin color and you have to exagerate facial features, the eyes expecialy.

Allan Akbar (http://sims2.mine.nu) has good nude (= anatomically correct) Asian genetic skins.

[Darkmoon]

Thanks Faylen.....couldn't have said it any better.
.....and I for one, would be one of these people complaining about asian Sims looking more like caucasian Sims.:devil:

[NarcoticSuite]

Allan Akbar (http://sims2.mine.nu) has good nude (= anatomically correct) Asian genetic skins.

Very true but I think you're missing the point of the thread.

Anyway I agree with Faylen. What makes this site so good is that it offers a majority of things that are alot different to what's already out there. There's nothing wrong with having a website that has tonnes of skins which aren't really distinquished too much from the next but THIS website and the powers that be may believe in quality over quantity. As I said it's up to them what they choose to use for their website.

[diviant]

I've also had things rejected but didn't take it personal especially since the response I got back was an automated one. Oh well.

I find the accusation of racism against Europeans pretty funny since the site is OWNED by Europeans. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture so we can see if its "racist" or not.

Sorry angel, your sim is very pretty but IMO she doesn't look very asian to me so I can understand the rejection.

[Drakron]

why would you need a custom color?

Because Maxis light skin color is too light (it reminds me of germans) and their tan color is more latin, Allan made a oriental skin tone that works pretty well in the game in that regard, even if it looks too yellow in Bodyshop.

Another thing is if you submit a sim with green eyes and red hair as a japanese sim its going to be rejected, not because there are no japanese with green eyes and red hair but because in such elements are rare in that etnic group (and exist because of mixing with other etnic groups).

[s.w]

Thanks Faylen.....couldn't have said it any better.
.....and I for one, would be one of these people complaining about asian Sims looking more like caucasian Sims.:devil:

I hate the term "Caucasian". It is an American politically correct but very artifical term for "white" people, aka "European" people. The term isn't used anywhere outside the US. A real Caucasian is a person from the Caucasus Mountains area on the border between Europe and Asia (with Russia to the north and Iran to the south), countries like Georgia, Azerbajdzan, Armenia, Chechnya and the like. They're usually people with black hair, lots of black body hair and a far darker complexion than most Europeans.

I'm European, I'm white but I'm definitely not Caucasian. I could possibly accept the term "Indo-European" though.

[alpharaptor1]

maybe he made the faces too long and the forehead and chin too pronounced...?

[s.w]

there's my Asian sim(look at the picture i submitted, it is more accurate) she is beautiful, and i have no idea why she was rejected.

I have, she doesn't look the least bit Asian.

[Darkmoon]

Stop splitting hairs here and this has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion here!!
You knew darn well that the term caucasian used in this case was pertaining to someone white.

[o0cyane0o]

I agree that Angelmarie123's dosent look too asian, she's pretty but not any too asian. This thread has been bugging me all day long so I've been working on an asian sim to combat my frustration which I'm going to post soon. Yall can tell me if she looks asian. I will not be offended if she dose not look any too asian (though I think she does) bt I just think we need a good asian face out there.

Plus i have given up all hope of ever seeing a picture of these infamous four asian sims that got rejected and started this whole matter.

[NarcoticSuite]

Apologies if I offend anyone by this but...Have I fallen down the rabbit hole or has this thread become the "Lets see if my skin looks Asian enough?" thread??? Keep to the point people!!!

Mods, Admins, authorities, feel free to slap me for stepping out of line.

[Eve]

AngelMarie, I was the one who rejected those particular uploads.

I gave a reason, I personally thought they didnt look Asian and many others on this thread agree with me. The rejection field is quite small and I might have to go through nearly 250 uploads a day... I dont have time to critique every upload nor do I have the inclination to. I do however try to give a brief reason to most uploads.

The fact is, Asian Sims are very hard to make. Another fact is that I'm not happy with some of the sims in Sims & Families and want to screen way more throughly for that section. You got rejected, big deal. It's not the end of the world. To say you're "never uploading here again" is nonsense - will you do that everywhere you get rejected/a bad comment?

Toughen up child and try again. Its just a digital image at the end of the day, nothing earthshattering.

- E

P.S. And if you *do* have a quibble about uploads, PM or email a mod/admin rather than starting an entire thread about it.

[br0k3n79]

no actually the term "Caucasian" has nothing to do with American's, And wording things the way you just did s.w. would lead some people to believe that you are somewhat racist. The term caucasian is used by the medical community and the scientific community alike, as a term to identify a persons origin. And actually if you want to get technical about it, it also refers to thinks like genetics and your bones etc. Caucasians have very different structure of the face then mongoloids (the scientific term for people of asian decent.)And actually without things like this it would be nearly impossible to identify victims after they die. So no someone isn't just saying someone "looks" caucasion there are specific characteristics of each background (caucasion, mongoloid, and negroid). Look it up watch the science channels, like discovery and forensic files. Watch them make a model of someone's skull it really is a science and an art.
Here are only a few examples of what they look like
http://medstat.med.utah.edu/kw/osteo/forensics/race.html
http://medstat.med.utah.edu/kw/osteo/forensics/mongoloid/midface.html
click on the images to enlarge them if you would like to understand more, or you could do your own google search.

As for the sim that was rejected, I'm very sorry. I think we all have been in those shoes. But the fact of the matter is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I'm assuming the site does not belong to you, in which case they have the right to do basically whatever they like. You could however host your very own page and then you may keep it up as long as you like. :D :D Cheer up :bigwave:

[s.w]

no actually the term "Caucasian" has nothing to do with American's, And wording things the way you just did s.w. would lead some people to believe that you are somewhat racist. The term caucasian is used by the medical community and the scientific community alike, as a term to identify a persons origin. And actually if you want to get technical about it, it also refers to thinks like genetics and your bones etc. Caucasians have very different structure of the face then mongoloids (the scientific term for people of asian decent.)And actually without things like this it would be nearly impossible to identify victims after they die. So no someone isn't just saying someone "looks" caucasion there are specific characteristics of each background (caucasion, mongoloid, and negroid).

As I wrote the use of the word "Caucasian" to indicate a European, or "white", person is purely American. You would never see that term used that way in Europe or anywhere else in the world for that matter. You could see the term "Indo-European" though. As I wrote in my previous post.

And I'm definitely not a racist so don't even try to pin that on me.

[SlyVenom]

I made a sim with very distinct chinese features,
roughly based off of Bruce Lee.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/SlyVenom//Lee-1.PNG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/SlyVenom//Lee-2.PNG

The only custom part I used was the black eyes from the sexy pack,
but those could be easily substituted with the standard brown eyes/



*edit*

The master himself.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/SlyVenom//Brucelee.gif

[Eve]

Kids, quit talking about the whole "European"/Caucasian thing - it has nothing to do with this thread.

-E

[simsgalore]

I uploaded the pictures of the 4 Japanese women. Also, angelmarie123, your sim is really good, too bad you were rejected...

It just really fries my bacon, I mean, I even know people that look like that, and they're Japanese. Some are from Japan!

[BlackKat13]

Your sims are definitely gorgeous, but to look more oriental, the eyes need some work. The eyes are the key. I'm obsesed with perfecting sims eyes. (Not just oreintal sims, all sims), so if you would like some pointers of how I change a rounded eye to look more oriental, PM me. Also, your second one looks the most Japanese. These sims are very nice though. Perhaps if you marketed them as "Sweet and innocent" sims, they'd be approved.

[Gigge]

I don't know. When I hear someone has Asian skins, I expect to see stuff like this:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze3qhzc/Previews/Asians.jpg

Asians (from all parts) have some very distinct features. The Chinese tend to have high, pronounced cheekbones, Koreans a rounder, fuller face with small lips. Indians often have a very straight nose. There are also differences in skin tone. If you pull out a book on portraiture it will describe a little about skin tones and how Asians tend to have more yellow and reflect orange, while Caucasians (and not just those from the Caucases, lol) have more pinkish tones, African Americans have more blue tones, etc.

These are generalizations, but they're not racist. There are differences in genetics and body chemistry that account for these differences. None of them is better than another, but there definitely are recognizable characteristics. And, from what I've seen in this and other posts they haven't been represented very well. I wouldn't look at any of those pictures and recognize, even under scrutiny, those faces as being Asian. So, I'd be disappointed if I came looking for Asian skins and found those.

Your Sims are beautiful though. It's just the billing as "Asian" that makes me look for typically "Asian" facial features and I don't see them.

[BlackKat13]

Good point-"Asian" is far too general.

[DumBblOndE]

I just wanted to show this here as well i see that the topics are simliar..

http://forums.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?p=222713#post222713

http://forums.modthesims2.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28452


If you look at this beautiful asian lady.. she is rather alabaster looking no?

Point made

[Lord Vengeance]

Just change the name to 4 European women and resubmit it.

:blink:

just kidding.

EDIT: Sly's Bruce Lee guy above probably looks about the most "Asian" as any I've seen, especially here.

[o0cyane0o]

Your sims are definitely gorgeous, but to look more oriental, the eyes need some work. The eyes are the key. I'm obsesed with perfecting sims eyes. (Not just oreintal sims, all sims), so if you would like some pointers of how I change a rounded eye to look more oriental, PM me. Also, your second one looks the most Japanese. These sims are very nice though. Perhaps if you marketed them as "Sweet and innocent" sims, they'd be approved.

agreed, i would think that marketing would be successful.

[s.w]

I just wanted to show this here as well i see that the topics are simliar..
...
If you look at this beautiful asian lady.. she is rather alabaster looking no?

Point made

It's the lighting. The picture is overexposed as can be seen from the burned out highlight on her body. That has made her skin several shades whiter than it really is.

[lobstergirl]

Your sims are definitely gorgeous, but to look more oriental, the eyes need some work. The eyes are the key. I'm obsesed with perfecting sims eyes. (Not just oreintal sims, all sims), so if you would like some pointers of how I change a rounded eye to look more oriental, PM me. Also, your second one looks the most Japanese. These sims are very nice though. Perhaps if you marketed them as "Sweet and innocent" sims, they'd be approved.

I agree with BlackKat. I think the eyes are the reason why they were rejected. Give them a little more work and see what you get.

[alpharaptor1]

let's not get into a "race" or "breed" discussion, lets face it people from different parts or the world DO have different defining features. like hair, there are type caucoid, mongoloid, and negriod....REALLY.

[DumBblOndE]

s.w -maybe-- but i have seen many people of asian decent that are pale, and not what some ignorant people consider asian pigmentation to look like.
and

Ultimately.. WHO CARES???

People are beautiful by all colors and creeds, let us judge them only by their deeds..
By DB

[Faylen]

This isn't a discussion about racism, it's a discussion about how to make sims look like certain races, and there >are< defining physical features that people have in common. Please don't try to read more into it than that.

[Carista]

yeah couldn't have said it better myself.. ;)

[~kathy~]

After looking at the skins I can see why they were rejected. They don't look asian! Stop reading more into Eve's decision.

[angelmarie123]

well, since many people disagree with me that my sim looks Asian, i have decided to work harder at it. here is my latest sim....what do u guys think?

[elle.jae]

Well, I guess as long as we're all sharing our attempts at making Asian sims, here are a couple of mine. The adult is kinda-sorta-maybe based on a girl I go to school with and the toddler is one of the kids born to the adult in my game.

[BlackKat13]

She does look more asian than the last one, angel. One thing I find in making asian eyes more realising-instead of curving them upso drastically, play with the other features-make the eye smaller, but longer, and then use the tool to "Close" the eye a bit, and curve them up/down (Or keep them straight) only very slightly depending on which nationality of "Asian" you are going for (in different orriental countries, people have different traits-including how the eyes are-some oriental peoples eyes are actually "straight", not curved any way at all) play around with it and most of all have fun!
BTW, that sim is beautiful!

[angelmarie123]

thanks :) and thanks for your tips

[bluemoon_koolay]

sims galore i love your 4 sims and was wondering where i could get them if i can

[Zia-chan]

You might want to try to look at some drawing books. I can't make sims, I can't even do recolors, but I do draw. If you want to make sims that look more asain try drawing books, they give many examples of the defining features.

[aw614]

I ended up using myself as a pointed reference to start off on my asian skins skins, not released, dunno when...but I used mainly other asian skins I downloaded to look at and see how it was done. I also looked at my family on features and also my chinese movies, mostly though on nose bridges. The thing is there is a lot of variation, like I look different from my sister, eyes are larger, larger lips etc. I also wouldn't slant the eyes too much that it is appearent, maybe a slight angle turn. Another thing, the eyes I don't think should be too deep. I need to find a side picture of my skin. Noses also vary, some have long, short, flat, narrow, etc.

My biggest problem with making asian skins is they look great as adults (most I d/l and the ones I made) but as kids and todlers, they look just out of proportion.

ALso I agree with the posters on the skin tones on the asian skins from maxis, none of them suit them. Not even the tanned skin, when I was trying to make a skin tanned off my base skin I made.

What does everyone think? I may have posted this in another thread. . .
I think for a first time skinning I did ok,
I haven't tried making european skins, based on how I draw in real life, I think I may have difficulty since my people drawings have a hint of asian look on them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/aw614/test1.jpg

[VAMPY BITES V^^^^V]

Here's my Japanese woman I've made. :howdy:



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/covermejoey/Peace.jpg


"S"
V^^^^V

[jbloom]

I don't think it is racist to say that in general Asians have a distinctive look compared to Europeans, and I don't see why Europeans would be offended by the website saying the Sims looked too European to be Asian.

Nor do I think your Sims look Asian. Sorry. As others have said it is quite difficult to make a good Asian-looking Sim. I don't know about needing to have custom skins or exaggerating features, but I know I personally wouldn't look at those Sims and call them Asian, cool eyeliner or not. :)

Racism isn't about pointing out differences (like it or not, humans are still quite varied in appearance), it's about unfounded fears, prejudices or ill treatment/harm based upon race. These differences *do often* correlate with geographical location, which also corresponds to thousands of years of history of pretty much the same.

Merely discussing differences does not a racist comment make.

[sannysims40]

I don't think it is racist to say that in general Asians have a distinctive look compared to Europeans, and I don't see why Europeans would be offended by the website saying the Sims looked too European to be Asian.

Nor do I think your Sims look Asian. Sorry. As others have said it is quite difficult to make a good Asian-looking Sim. I don't know about needing to have custom skins or exaggerating features, but I know I personally wouldn't look at those Sims and call them Asian, cool eyeliner or not. :)

Racism isn't about pointing out differences (like it or not, humans are still quite varied in appearance), it's about unfounded fears, prejudices or ill treatment/harm based upon race. These differences *do often* correlate with geographical location, which also corresponds to thousands of years of history of pretty much the same.

Merely discussing differences does not a racist comment make.
I could not have said it better. I've had the opportunity to read every post on this thread. First of all those sims that was rejected for not looking Asian enough per the moderaters were just BEAUTIUFL! I am so jealous. :D A note to the person whose drawings were rejected, don't take it personally. In this setting as well as real life people have their taste and standards. I say hold your head up high and keep trying. Use this rejection as a positive and never give up. Hopefully one day I want to illustrate comics and video games, which is a competitive field, realizing that rejection will come but the upside to the rejection is that someone will want my work. :bump: Sorry to be so long winded. Many thanks.

[Nouk]

Miss Japan for miss sim Earth two:
http://tinypic.com/8zgw03.jpg
Does she look Japanese enough :D

Miss China looks weird but I like her:
http://tinypic.com/8wfwrc.jpg

I think they look pretty close to the real deal, accept that they have eyelids and Miss china's eyes are huge :)

[eight_is_enuf98]

Funny, my nine year old just walked by and asked if they were chineese. They looked like Mulan to him.

I would imagaine changing the makeup would take care of the eyelid problem.

[Nouk]

Cool! And about the make-up, that's true. I liked those because of the colors, I wasn't actually going for super authentic looking... nice looking would suffice :)

[hartbeat]

Dude, it does seem quite racist, I mean come on, Is there such things as looking toooo African American/ Hispanic or Caucasian? If so. Some of it makes sence, but just seems stupid, sorry about your rejection.

[niol]

Well, the problem I see here raises from how people define and categorise certain characteristics into groups while not leaving out a mind for the "grey-areas"/fluidity/continuity/intertwining/interceptions/intercrossing/etc...". In a present practical way, people have to be baised to start out an approach in the first place before grabbing every little piece back to glue them into one of the possible pictures. For their simplicity, some characteristics are categorised in a "better" efficient way to their particular system. However, when people start to mix up different categorisations according to different "standards"/criteria, confusion results.

In certain scientific fields, they use those terms for describing certain physical characteristics for a group for a particular general practice. But,when people like some politicians mess these definitions with other things for their purpose(s), people start to mix up the ideas and act in the ways as expected in most cases...

Basically, the same/similar terms are used in different ways out of their contexts while people without those contexts get confused by assuming these words represent the same things.

[blah4566]

The 2nd one looks a lot like one of my Mexican friends.

[niol]

Occasionally, this problem happens in my real life!

Sometimes, I still get on some uneasy moments when people are trying to categorise me with the "best" they can. They're stuck with more specific terms that lacks fluidity and flexibility rather than just simply categorise me as "a person" (a more general term).

That's why an artist may want to simply use more general terms for different "races" to avoid confusion. This method has already been suggested.

Or stating out the categorisational criteria with your more specific terms.

[Faylen]

However, the impetus for this thread was the difficulty people were having trying to make sims with realistic-looking almond-shaped eyes with underfolded upper lids, noses that were wider, or flatter, or with shorter tips that didn't look just plain ugly, and choosing a skintone that didn't look like a regular white person with a tan. These features are commonly associated with what we used to call "oriental", meaning, generally, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. In order to avoid offense it was changed to "Asian" but that gives us the problem that "Asian" encompasses a far wider range of genetic archetypes. Yes, if you're trying to make a sim who's Indonesian, Thai, Indian, Pakistani, you have problems as well, but it's a whole different pack of them. With the "Oriental" type Asians, you're starting with sim characteristics that are far enough away from real ones that it's hard enough, but they also start off pretty darned ugly - and we like our pretty sims.

[niol]

Em.. Actually, there're some similar views, but just concentrate on different points. They're not contradicatory to one another but just specify on different dimensions.

I see I need to clarify the descriptive phrase "more general terms" I used . Actually, I defined that as a person/ a people, as seen in "simply categorise me as "a person" (a more general term)." So, you see the degree I meant.

[candyxxxxs100]

Miss Japan for miss sim Earth two:
http://tinypic.com/8zgw03.jpg
Does she look Japanese enough :D

Miss China looks weird but I like her:
http://tinypic.com/8wfwrc.jpg

I think they look pretty close to the real deal, accept that they have eyelids and Miss china's eyes are huge :) WOW have yougot those on this site, 'cause they are amazing! I wanna dl them!

[Howabominable]

I've also found that going by a picture helps loads. I was completely unable to make an Asian-looking sim without pictures, but with a pic I can physically see what features I want to add. And you don't just have to use one model. Having some sort of model is way easier than just guessing.

Also, concentrate on the face as a whole. Sometimes I find when I'm creating sims based on pictures I concentrate too much on each individual piece of their face, but when I produce the final product it looks NOTHING like the sim I was trying to make. I've noticed that alot on these forums too. Alot of the time the sims I see look nothing like the celebrities they're based on, yet when you look at each individual part of the face it's correct.

That may sound confusing, but if you concentrate on how the whole face looks rather than the individual pieces such as the nose or eyes, your sims end up looking alot better.

Also, I agree about the skintone. I use heleane's skintones all the time now because they make all my sims look more realistic.

[oTatteredxBeautyo]

honestly, i think this was delved into wayyy too much. I understand your frustration with mods/admins for rejecting your sims on those standards, but honestly just move on.
Asian sims truly are a hit or miss, and to whoever rejected your sims, they were a miss. If I were you, just resubmit them as something else. Who really cares, as long as you get to share your beautiful sims? Three pages about one silly rejection seems a little ludicrous. They're just sims, and though you may have worked really hard on them and making them "Asian", I really wouldn't worry about it too much.

Nouk - Of course! They're both gorgeous and I totally see the Oriental in them. :)

[lilwoman]

maybe if you made your own skin color, and made your own eyes that have the slant it would look asian

[kimajjas]

Try to consider the context for their reason rather than blaming it on racism. Their reason for rejecting your skin is acceptable. If they didn't enforce some sort of control over the site's contents then the site would lose it's diversity. All the skins could potentionally look very similar and thus the site would lose its appeal of variety. Whatever their reasons though, at the end of the day it's their site, we don't have to pay for anything on here so it's a privilage to be on this website, so whatever they say, goes. If you don't like that then there's nothing from stopping you going to another site.
Okay I for one like your skins and I think you should be able to post them no matter what they look like. As for your comment about "All the skins could potentionally look very similar and thus the site would lose its appeal of variety". My biggest complaint with that is have you taken a look at the lots? I mean people make a square box and stick a door on it and call it a house. I mean whats up with that? Thats just wasting my time and its wasting their space. It is also wasting my time to have to look threw to find the good ones. People on this site need to stop sticking things on here that a 3 yr old could make. This site should be for people who have a real talent for building, creating, etc. I could say a lot more about this but I will not. As for your skins again I like them.

[Reyn]

The one thing about Japanese people is this. There is both an oriental genotype and a caucasian one - the Ainu. I have known japanese people with very european features who were part ainu, which is something some japanese are now proud of, since the Ainu were in the islands first.

To the japanese, it is even more important to act japanese - you can look japanese all day, but if you do not act right, it doesn't matter, you are not japanese.

At least, this is what I learned while taking the language way back when - more research papers than for my english class.


--As for the middle oriental types, they are closer to european genotypes. There is less likelyhood for paler skin tones, and blond hair is unheard of, but the bone structure is going to be pretty standard.

[amberfaye]

I AS WELL DO NOT THINK YOUR SIMS LOOK ASIAN....BUT THEY R BEAUTIFUL AND WITH A FEW LITTLE TWEAKS, THEY WOULD MAKE GREAT ASIANS. iF YOU FIRST WIDENED THE NOSE tips by, like, alot, and slanted the eyes more, they would be great. try that, re-apply for them to be on the site and they will prolly make it. Id love to have them!

[Judfer]

I have no dog in this fight, but as a consumer, if I were looking for Asian, particularly Japanese, sims, these sims would not fit the bill. They do look European (or Indo-European, or whatever you want to call yourselves) but not Japanese. They could possibly pass for Latin, (as in Latin American). Obviously, the mongoloid eye is not there. I say study some photos of authentic Japanese people and try again.

[mjfan84]

i myself have been a little POed at some of the reasons why a few of my sims have been rejected but you know administration has done a pretty good job... just something you gotta pick up and move on from.... i dunno, i think your sims are cool but should just try naming them something different. have you tried uploading them again? if so id dl

mjfan84

p.s. im a little surprised admin hasnt locked this forum.... :omg:

[Faylen]

Threads don't get locked unless they break rules.

[mjfan84]

Threads don't get locked unless they break rules.


ehh i thought u guys just didnt like debates in the threads, my bad

[Hooray4nay]

Plus i have given up all hope of ever seeing a picture of these infamous four asian sims that got rejected and started this whole matter.

Er...let it go?


I just had to say something, and state that this argument is so beyond ridiculous. The modders and accepters have their reasons for rejected sims and I apologize, because I won't even pretend that any Sims I attempt to make turn out good, but I would have to agree with them....






:sorry: ????

[Faylen]

Yeah, I do think that the point has been muddled enough, and since it seems that the thread is no longer offering skinning advice or help, it should probably meet a merciful end.