Do you believe in the Paranormal?

[Yazoo]

Paranormal means: Anything that is beyond or contrary to what is deemed scientifically possible.

Such as:

Ghosts

Extraterrestrial life and UFOs

Cryptids (Big Foot, Werewolves, Loch Ness Monster, are just some examples)

If you do believe in the Paranormal:

Why do you believe in the Paranormal? And have you ever had any encounters?

I believed in the Paranormal, I believe that there is life on other planets, and I do believe in Ghosts.

My Encounters:

Ghosts:

First Encounter: I lived in some dorms, that were said to be haunted. I thought whatever, no way. Until I had three encounters myself. . .One day after work, I came back to the dorm, I was wide awake, and in some way I wanted to take a nap, ya know? Well, I saw this woman in literally a 1700 styled dress. Her hair was brown, and she had blue eyes. She smiled at me, and walked away. I jolted from my bed, and went to see where she was, and she was gone. I was stunned and speechless.

Second Encounter: Same dorm, I was walking with a couple of my friends. You know, just kicking it. And they left to do their own thing and I went back to the dorm. I heard giggling coming from my left side, so I headed that way. And I saw two kids, one being a boy and one being a girl. And they were rolling a red ball. I gulped, then turned away. Same night, two girls asked me to walk down one of the wings with them. As I did, we looked one of the bed, kid you not. It looked like someone had been sleeping in it. Needless to say we walked out.

Third Encounter: Same dorm again. I was working in the gym we have on campus. Just chilling and cleaning. I was in the female's bathroom, and I got this eerie vibe. But I shook it off. As I scrubbing the sink, I felt something against my neck, as I looked up. In the corner of my eye I saw a male standing there. As I turned around, there was nothing there. I went and checked the door, and it was locked. And no males are allowed in the bathroom. I was freaking out. I hurriedly got done and walked out.

Fourth Encounter: I was at this place called "The Daly Mansion" and before I go on. Yes it is haunted, there have been other encounters than the one I'm about to tell you. So, anyway, my mother and I were taking a tour, its a really nice place, and I love it. But anyway, my mother had to use the restroom. So I stood outside of the bathroom. I looked at the old newspapers, and looked at the old radio. And in my right ear I hear a soft whisper, saying "Hello". I was dumbfounded so when my mother got out of the bathroom, I asked: "Mom did you just say hello to me?" She looked at me and said no. Then again, a whisper and a loud hello are two different things. But it is amazing, because the people that lived there. They aren't bad, they are very good. And I do not know who said Hello to me. But that was my encounter at the "The Daly Mansion"

U.F.O:

First Encounter: I was about ten or eleven at this time. My mother, my brother and I just got done visiting my grandmothers. You know just a lovely ride home. Until we saw this large beam of red light, and it was just hovering there. And I was like: "What in the world." I looked to my left and there was a car in the ditch, the woman was just staring upward. And so I took a better look. Right above us, there was a very large floating object. As I went to take another look, the object was gone. This wasn't man made, not by a long shot. It was huge, and circular, and they bright red light beaming down from it...It was just weird.

Second Encounter: I was hanging out with my cousin, and we were heading into the big city. Him and I were just talking, and I noticed something bright in the sky. And I asked my cousin, what is that? And he looked, and he didn't have the slightest clue. And I was like, "What if its a UFO?" He just shook his head, as we got closer. I kid you not, the radio went dead. His CD player stopped working, and we thought the batteries were dead, then we turned on the radio and none of the stations were working. I looked at him, and as soon as we passed and got away from the bright light. His CD player began to work, and so did his radio.

So yes, I do believe in the Paranormal, I have heard other stories as well. But these are true, and I, myself, have experienced them.

[DrowningFishy]

Yes I do, especially since I am origionally from the Mid-west united states.

UFOs, of course to think in all the planets, and all the universes, in the many galaxies it's stupid to think were the only ones.

Ghosts:
Well in my nana's house there is a ghost/polterguist in the basement. You could not close the door in the downstairs basement without this ghost swinging open the door, or throwing things in the other room. When my nana died swear to god I saw her standing with the fridge open looking pissed as ever.

In one of the old places I lived at there was a pesky ghost with the love for unscrewing lightbulbs.

I used to work for the Oneida Nation at one of their hotel/resturant/casino type deals. I was a night porter and it was my job to clean the kitchen. It was well known that this building with all it's exspantioins kept creeping unto sacrid burial ground. One night I was cleaning the rugs and minding my own business. After running them throw the dishwasher I would put them on carts to dry. The only ways in or out was past me as I lined up the carts two by two in a hallway that strangly would never really light up. I was just finishing up when security approached me and asked if anyone was with me. Confused I glanced around and replied that 'no, I am the only one here'. He asked if i was ceritan and I assured him I was. He then took me back to where the security cameras where and you can see me working, and you can also see a gentleman on camera on the other end of the hall watching me as I worked.

Another story about my nana's house. After years of being gone I went back and visited my dad who now lives in the house. Me and a friend stayed in the basement so to avoid my dads nasty smoking habit. One night I was sleeping soundly when I felt something kick my head. Not really thinking much of it I settled back down to sleep; again I felt the kick. and herd my name called by a very scared voice. Opening my eyes I almost instantly saw someone standing at the foot end of the cot I was sleeping on. It seemed to notice I was awake and it just turned and walked out the door. I dont have any tall and skinny relitives, I have no idea who or what that might have been but it certianly scared the shit out of me and my firend.

Shoot if you really want to believe in ghosts work where I work now. I could go on with stories but I'll spare you.

As for Cryptids-well the stories I have is best saved for daylight hours. Especially that I am working alone, on a dark foggy night, in a tiny gaurd shack.

[Lavaster]

No; and mainly because I don't want to. The idea of paranormal figures scares me.

[smorbie1]

I guess I've always believed. But a few years ago, we bought a house that turned out to be haunted. It was a very difficult experience, filled with flying objects, lights that turned on and off, doors that opened by themselves, and visual and auditory apparitions. We also came to believe the house to be cursed. After a year to the day, we abandoned the house, letting the bank have it back, and moved away.
Some people who live in haunted houses report benign or even somewhat charming experiences. That was not the case with us. It was something I never want to repeat, that's for sure.

[maxon]

Hmmmm - well, I don't think 'scientifically possible' is necessarily an accurate way of describing what you mean. Many scientists think life on other planets is possible just that that life isn't over here on this planet (with very good reason). In a similar way, any biologist will tell you that there are plenty of creatures in the animal kingdom which haven't been described by science and large creatures are being newly discovered all the time. In fact, most animals alive today have not been described by science. Do psychologists think people have experiences with ghosts? Well, yes, it's just that as a general rule that 'ghosts' aren't considered to be the dead spirits of previously living persons.

[haricots]

I believe, mainly the ghost and ET life, because I believe my religion. Other than that, the only experience I have is when I had to release my bladder at freakin' midnight seven years ago. I saw flying objects in my way. I think I was half-asleep, but it's damn clear. In the morning, I found all those things moved to my room. It could be done by ghosts, or maybe just my funny dad's act. Who knows? :lol:

[5M0K3]

I kinda do. I was in the kitchen once and my TV just fell over. Nobody was there, it was on a table larger than the TV, and the kitchen and living room are connected (the only separation is the bar attached to the kitchen) so I would notice if someone broke in.

Another time a lightbulb just randomly unscrewed. Freaked me OUT.

I really want to visit the... I can't remember what it's called, but you know The House Of Fallen Trees that comes in TS2: Nightlife? I read that it was modeled after a house that some girl tripped down the stairs in, and broke her neck, and the house was just totally haunted. I canNOT remember the name for the life of me, but the surname of the woman who lived there was the same as the ghost family that lives there in the Sims.

[LuvSims2011]

Not me. But looking at these stories makes me want to go "maybe"...

[Riptide651]

I do, but I hope I'm never gonna encounter anything, because, not only I will freak the hell out, but I will also Faint on the spot.

But honestly, I love reading ghost stories, because it gives you chills....

[SuicidiaParasidia]

i dont like the term "believe in" when it comes to stuff like this. if you get punched in the face, nobody asks you if you "believe in" getting punched in the face. you either acknowledge/observe what just happened to you, or you dont.
but theres the factor of outside recognition. if you really care about what people think, criteria sets in, and really...its all subjective. it just gets messier and messier when you take into account what others think about what youve told them.

so i prefer not to tell anybody.

[paksetti]

Personally, I've never had any sort of experience that would force me to accept that sort of thing as real, so I don't. I don't think ill of anyone who does, but to me, those sorts of things are just cool fairytales. I love stories about cryptids and folklore (especially the ones that are kind of maybe sort of almost rooted in some truth (like the Jackalope and Shope papillomavirus), but I acknowledge them as fiction.

I eat that crap up with a spoon. I just wish more documentary style horror movies didn't end with "derp, it was possession."

[Elyasis]

No.

The ET maybe but we probably haven't encountered them yet.

I used to see things as a kid but as my brain was still in development I doubt it was actually there.

[Johnny_Bravo]

I'm not really sure. But I DO believe in ghost, I still hate it to walk past a mirror in the night :lol:

[Mistermook]

Half the incidents of "paranormal activity" my friends might cite as examples in the past have been crap easily explained by completely normal means, and the other half are probably them remembering something lame I did to show them that it was crap, but of course they never believed me because they wanted to believe. But most of all because "paranormal" is a silly term: If something exists it has to have mechanical presence to interact with everything else that exists, and the more you're supposed to have it present and "sense it" the easier it should be to detect. Since we haven't, and we won't, it doesn't exist. And if we suddenly did discover something remotely resembling the nonsense it wouldn't be "para" anything, it would be clearly physical and readily able to interact with.

I've given it all a shot. Astrology, numerology, tarot, haunted houses, neo-pagan witchcraft, and many others. As interesting examples of social behaviors and the way the mind fills in gaps of information with falsified information, how to play a crowd or utter vague pronouncements to convince and sway others? It's all fascinating theater. Sometimes it's fun even. Tarot cards + card tricks are especially good for getting gullible people to do all sorts of unlikely things, like sleep with me. But it's all crap.

[LuvSims2011]

*Looks around house* Hmm, I wonder if a ghost comes out of that urn...

[Yazoo]

Well, I started believing in ghosts when I heard my mother encounters, and just to know that I have now had my own encounters. I mean, I believe in the Paranormal, or at least know that there is something out there.

My Mother's Encounter: My mother and her two sisters lived in this small home back in Ohio. In their home, two elderly women passed away, due to freezing in the house. There heater didn't work. So, nothing happened for a few months. Well, one day, their mother (my grandmother) told them to turn of their stereo and come eat. Well, they turned off the stereo, and when getting half way up the stairs the stereo turned on. And all of them ran up the stairs.

Another story my mother told me. Her stuff would go missing. And for months she couldn't find her belongings, even her pillow was stolen. Then one day all of her stuff was beneath her bed.

Another Encounter of Mine:

My friend and I were walking past a cemetery. Just walking and talking, trying to find something to do. And in the corner of my eyes, I saw a little child run after a ball. And when I turned to see what it was, it was gone. Scared the crap out of me. So I sped up the pace, and we didn't walk past the cemetery for the rest of the night.



I believe in the supernatural. I believe that there is things that scientists can not explain. People will say, well, they can. No, Scientists don't know EVERYTHING. Spirits still wonder the Earth, because they are either looking for closure. Or they are looking for a way home to their resting place. And there are ghost that are bad. Because they died in an angered state.

I will never give up on what I believe in. Because I know there is life even after death. And I believe that there is life on other planets. UFOs are that sign, we don't have to talk to an Alien to know that they are out there. Because I am sorry there is no way what I saw was man made.

[5M0K3]

I remember when I had just moved in with my roommate, she would do the cruelest things EVER, which made me REALLY believe in the paranormal.

I watched The Ring with her one night, and the next morning I went to the table (which has a clear view of the TV), sat down, and was reading a book and eating an apple, nothing weird going on. Then the freaking TV turned on, and started playing that creepy video! I started freaking out, threw my apple at the television (but missed because my aim is sh*t), and ran out of the house. But when I opened the door, I could hear her LAUGHING AT ME. I had later found out that she recorded the freaky video but first recorded like, 10 minutes of a silent black screen.

Another time while we were eating, she kicked a chair over with her foot (but looked totally normal, so HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?!) and I thought it was a ghost, so again, I started spazzing and she started laughing like a frikkin' hyena.

[KKiryu007Joker]

r LAUGHING AT ME. I had later found out that she recorded the freaky video but first recorded like, 10 minutes of a silent black screen.

I think I wanna try that sometime now on somebody! :p

[Yazoo]

I remember when I had just moved in with my roommate, she would do the cruelest things EVER, which made me REALLY believe in the paranormal.

I watched The Ring with her one night, and the next morning I went to the table (which has a clear view of the TV), sat down, and was reading a book and eating an apple, nothing weird going on. Then the freaking TV turned on, and started playing that creepy video! I started freaking out, threw my apple at the television (but missed because my aim is sh*t), and ran out of the house. But when I opened the door, I could hear her LAUGHING AT ME. I had later found out that she recorded the freaky video but first recorded like, 10 minutes of a silent black screen.

Another time while we were eating, she kicked a chair over with her foot (but looked totally normal, so HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?!) and I thought it was a ghost, so again, I started spazzing and she started laughing like a frikkin' hyena.

I would freak out as well. So, your not alone. I mean if I saw that TV popped on like that...I would defiantly think:

"Holy sh*t. Samara!!!"

And freak out, but nah. I am sorry that your friend was that evil. But to freak out over a ghost, yeah I did that as well. I was spazzing when I heard the "hello".

But then again I also knew that the ghosts weren't out to hurt me o.o

But to your friend...Totalleh do something to get her back *nods* lol

[~Dee~]

Half the incidents of "paranormal activity" my friends might cite as examples in the past have been crap easily explained by completely normal means, and the other half are probably them remembering something lame I did to show them that it was crap, but of course they never believed me because they wanted to believe. But most of all because "paranormal" is a silly term: If something exists it has to have mechanical presence to interact with everything else that exists, and the more you're supposed to have it present and "sense it" the easier it should be to detect. Since we haven't, and we won't, it doesn't exist. And if we suddenly did discover something remotely resembling the nonsense it wouldn't be "para" anything, it would be clearly physical and readily able to interact with.

I've given it all a shot. Astrology, numerology, tarot, haunted houses, neo-pagan witchcraft, and many others. As interesting examples of social behaviors and the way the mind fills in gaps of information with falsified information, how to play a crowd or utter vague pronouncements to convince and sway others? It's all fascinating theater. Sometimes it's fun even. Tarot cards + card tricks are especially good for getting gullible people to do all sorts of unlikely things, like sleep with me. But it's all crap.

Saying that these things people experience are 'all crap' is rather unkind. Just because you don't believe in them doesn't make them untrue or crap.

I suppose you are that person who would give me that look, the look you get when you tell someone you have seen a ghost. The look what says you are a nutcase.

But I understand it, because if you never experienced anything abnormal yourself, of course you will think it's all crap.
Once something weird happens to people they change their minds rather quickly.

I think it's a shame that some people aren't more open minded, just because you can't touch or see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Millions of people believe in God, you can't see , touch or sense him, but to them he exists.

That doesn't mean I believe in everything people tell me, I'm not that gullible.

[DrowningFishy]

I'll share one today some juicy stories tommarow if your still so willing.

This takes place back in Wisconsin when I was in middle school. A fresh snow had fallen and it was perfect for making a snow fort. Me and the neighbor in the duplex next store started to build a fort between our houses despite the fact it was late at night. As we were building we noticed movement beside us. I remebered looking over and first seeing nothing then noticing the shadows move. The shadows appeared to be dogs and all of a sudden their eyes began to glow red. Frightened, but convinced I was seeing things I went back to packing snow but noticed that my neighbor was not moving, and looking in the same direction.

"Did you see that?"

Well how can you deny what you don't want to admitt you see when someone else sees it. Looking back over this pack of black shadowy dogs were creeping closer like they were hunting. And they were moving closer to us. Now paniced we bolted towards our houses. Not certian which of us reached our door step sooner but I garentee we did not leave the house till the sun was well up.

The next day about noon I went outside to see if there was any tracks. There was some between the houses of a deer that wandered threw but where we saw the dogs was undisturbed snow.

[Mistermook]

I think it's a shame that some people aren't more open minded, just because you can't touch or see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Open-Mindedness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI)

There's nothing wrong with belief, in the sense that if it amuses you and harms no one I don't care about it and our pitifully short lives always need more entertainment - but belief isn't empirical and the lack of empirical evidence supporting existence is, in fact, how we establish reality. The best empirical support for the paranormal we find? "It's real to you." Not exactly a bill you can bank on, especially when we closely examine the terrible hold on reality a brain can have. We don't ever see the world as how it is - the brain is always struggling to process a poorly filtered signal of neural bursts and making up the world as we go along. THAT is empirical reality, swapping left to right and filling in "unimportant details" about the world so we can properly daydream.

But yes, it's crap. Prove me differently, empirically and scientifically and I'll eat my words. Until then don't ask questions that you're then going to go and play mock offended when people disagree with you and come up with counterarguments against your own answers.

[DrowningFishy]

I just want to say that humans see on differnt levels then animals. There is a spectrum that we cannot see. The more we play with lasers and like technology the more we see this. What is to say there is or is not a form out there humans cannot see with thier own eyes. I do not believe in the humized version of god, but I do believe there is something out there that is beyond our site. In nut shell; some people see 3D, scientists say there is at least 10 dimentions.

It's like going to a 3D movie with a person who can't see 3D and tell them how amazing the movie was and how things just popped out. Of course the person who can't see 3D can only take your world for it but you kow can't really believe how amazing it is. Shoot they just might down right not beleive you.

Seeing ghosts is like seeing 3D not everyone will see a ghost or other wise.


We've been struggling for years to try to prove or disprove of ghosts and what not. The only thing we can say for certian is we cannot disprove it. If we could prove it or disprove it can you imagine the ramifications. But each person believes differntly, and that is their right.

[maxon]

Personally, I've never had any sort of experience that would force me to accept that sort of thing as real, so I don't. I don't think ill of anyone who does, but to me, those sorts of things are just cool fairytales. I love stories about cryptids and folklore (especially the ones that are kind of maybe sort of almost rooted in some truth (like the Jackalope and Shope papillomavirus), but I acknowledge them as fiction.
Yes, me too. Have you ever seen this magazine? It's a favourite of mine.
http://www.forteantimes.com/

[BurgundyStars]

I've wavered between mild belief in the subject and outright rejection over the years. Now I try to keep an open mind about this type of thing but I can't help but be a skeptic.

As for other planets, I do believe there are other life forms out there. It's hard to not believe in that when Earth is practically a little dot in the scope of the whole universe.

[5M0K3]

I think it's a shame that some people aren't more open minded, just because you can't touch or see something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What if they don't believe in it, not because of the proof issue, but because they think the idea is absurd? I don't believe in god, it's not because there is no proof, but because I think it doesn't make sense. Saying people should be more open-minded in what they believe in is kinda an impossible request, because people cannot help what they believe in, nor can they change it.

[Yazoo]

I've wavered between mild belief in the subject and outright rejection over the years. Now I try to keep an open mind about this type of thing but I can't help but be a skeptic.

As for other planets, I do believe there are other life forms out there. It's hard to not believe in that when Earth is practically a little dot in the scope of the whole universe.

I must say you are right. Some people will have their skeptic ways. It may not because they haven't had an encounter themselves. Or they just believe that ghosts and aliens don't exist. And believe me, I am not harping on you. Truly.

When I was younger, I didn't believe in that stuff. Because I never encountered anything. But when my mom told her stories then my own encounters. Oh yeah, I was a believer. And I still to this day can NOT watch the Exorcist. Because of the fact I believe that can actually happen.

[Rawra]

To me, alien-related stuff is so not paranormal. It's stupid to think we're the only ones, even hypothetically.

If it is categorized the same, I like to believe there is some form of magic out there. I mean, it would be awesome if there was. I can't say I believe in magic, only that I like to believe. I guess I play too many fantasy-themed games and read too many fantasy-themed books.

[smorbie1]

While my current apartment does not appear to be haunted, I have had a few experiences here. I believe it to be my late boyfriend. I've learned to keep my ipod off the dock because it will turn on and play over the speakers. It's always playing a song that he and I shared and that has a special memory for us.

He's still here with me; but I don't consider myself haunted. It's just the way it is.

[Yazoo]

To me, alien-related stuff is so not paranormal. It's stupid to think we're the only ones, even hypothetically.

If it is categorized the same, I like to believe there is some form of magic out there. I mean, it would be awesome if there was. I can't say I believe in magic, only that I like to believe. I guess I play too many fantasy-themed games and read too many fantasy-themed books.

You're right, its not Paranormal. But then again it can NOT be explained by our wonderful Scientists that apparently know EVERYTHING. Which is obviously not true.

Reports say that when a U.F.O encounter has happened, they tell those people.

"What you saw, is a government vehicle, do not be alarmed. There is no such thing as aliens, or foreign flying objects."

Uh huh, righhhhhhh



While my current apartment does not appear to be haunted, I have had a few experiences here. I believe it to be my late boyfriend. I've learned to keep my ipod off the dock because it will turn on and play over the speakers. It's always playing a song that he and I shared and that has a special memory for us.

He's still here with me; but I don't consider myself haunted. It's just the way it is.

This actually brought tears to my eyes, call me a softy or an emotional person. But I see that he is just watching over you, and making sure that you know that even in death he still loves you. And wants you to be happy. ^.^

[CinderEmma]

No. I just don't really think that it's like that. It would be COOL if ghosts and stuff like that existed, but it's just not what I believe is true.

[5M0K3]

While I have never witnessed any UFOs or alien encounters, I think it's more than likely they exist. There are more planets, galaxies, universes than just ours. It's hard to believe that in all that space there is only humans. Sure, maybe other planets can't support life -- human life, that is. If there are other lifeforms they aren't going to be exactly like us. And I can imagine they have the same discussion about us being aliens and whether or not we exist.

This may be irrelevant, but there's a small part of me that wonders, what if we are just something small in an even bigger world? Y'know, like ants or something? Do you think ants know that they are little insects? Do you think they live regular lives? Do you think maybe we are like the ants of an even bigger civilization? I'm not talking about a god -- we are most certainly not the god of ants, but I have always wondered if maybe, we are not as big as we think we are.

[Yazoo]

While I have never witnessed any UFOs or alien encounters, I think it's more than likely they exist. There are more planets, galaxies, universes than just ours. It's hard to believe that in all that space there is only humans. Sure, maybe other planets can't support life -- human life, that is. If there are other lifeforms they aren't going to be exactly like us. And I can imagine they have the same discussion about us being aliens and whether or not we exist.

This may be irrelevant, but there's a small part of me that wonders, what if we are just something small in an even bigger world? Y'know, like ants or something? Do you think ants know that they are little insects? Do you think they live regular lives? Do you think maybe we are like the ants of an even bigger civilization? I'm not talking about a god -- we are most certainly not the god of ants, but I have always wondered if maybe, we are not as big as we think we are.

I sooooooooooooooooooooooo agree with you. But I don't think about it with ants. Honestly, I think about the other species that live on other planets.

Such as this:

Do the aliens show off their intellect with the U.F.Os that we see in the sky? Do they come here to observe us, and to see what we are like? What are aliens like? Are they nice, or harmful?

I just don't get why people...Will think that there is empty planets with no..Life on them. Maybe Venus..Anything that goes there gets crushed, unless the beings there can live there. I would love to understand more. Surely, a lot of people see what is in front of them, and not look at the whole detail. It would be like for instance someone writing a book, and they lacked detail, their grammar was off, and their spelling. They sent it in without editing.

And at one point A LOT of people believed in Aliens, why? Because there a radio show, talking Science-Fiction. And put the world into a panic, believing that Aliens were going to attack us, thus what War of the Worlds was about, and the one by Spielberg was a remake.

So, either word of man can go a long way, or an encounter can do the same. And how do we not know that those Aliens have been here, and we are the aliens to them? More than likely we are. We do not act like them, nor do we speak their language, that we know of.

[Tempscire]

I'm somewhat open-minded. Strange things have happened around me, not all of which I can come up with an adequate explanation for, but I also much more strongly believe in things like pareidolia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia) and sleep paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis) and faulty wiring and temperature-sensitive joist expansion. I also believe that it's ridiculously well documented how much the human brain makes stuff up as much as it's documented that there are phenomena not detectable by human senses (though detectable by other instruments, though of course what's detectable depends on our instruments). Possible? Maybe. Based on the evidence available now? No. Anecdata is not rigorous.

And since it's topical, a couple book recommendations: Mary Roach's Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife (http://www.amazon.com/Spook-Science-Afterlife-Mary-Roach/dp/0393329127/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325564652&sr=8-1) (which covers, like, 150 years of science open-mindedly trying to obtain any kind of physical/documentable evidence of spirits, ectoplasm, successful mediums, ghosts, etc, and only finding frauds along the way) and Carl Sagan's The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark (http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325564797&sr=1-1), which really ought to be required reading for everyone, and again very eloquently addresses pseudoscience and a "baloney detection kit."

But then again it can NOT be explained by our wonderful Scientists that apparently know EVERYTHING. Which is obviously not true.
No one claims scientists know everything, especially not scientists themselves. The point is that when something weird happens, you investigate it. Hear a weird noise in the house? Document all the conditions under which it occurs, start trying (many many many times) to induce it yourself, change certain variables to contrast to some control, etc. "Science" as a concept also does not pretend to know everything. It simply offers a process by which we can reliably determine what's real medicine and what's snake-oil. Experiencing something strange and immediately leaping to your "instinct" that "it must be ____" and just accepting that explanation at face value is not open-minded; it's lazy, and it's the kind of thinking that kept us from having electricity and cars for thousands of years.

[Yazoo]

No one claims scientists know everything, especially not scientists themselves. The point is that when something weird happens, you investigate it. Hear a weird noise in the house? Document all the conditions under which it occurs, start trying (many many many times) to induce it yourself, change certain variables to contrast to some control, etc. "Science" as a concept also does not pretend to know everything. It simply offers a process by which we can reliably determine what's real medicine and what's snake-oil. Experiencing something strange and immediately leaping to your "instinct" that "it must be ____" and just accepting that explanation at face value is lazy, and it's the kind of thinking that kept us from having electricity and cars for thousands of years.

that is so very true...I more or less probably should have re-worded what I had written *Coughs* and for this I apologize. But you are right :)

I didn't want to be open minded to the Paranormal when growing up. But I guess I am more now.

But thank you..in a way for correcting me. I apologize for the miss wording o.o

[Tempscire]

that is so very true...I more or less probably should have re-worded what I had written *Coughs* and for this I apologize. But you are right :)
Cool. I just get...let's say "antsy" when it sounds like people are dismissing science. I apologize for sounding snotty. I was preemptively gearing up for a denial or something, I guess.

[Yazoo]

Cool. I just get...let's say "antsy" when it sounds like people are dismissing science. I apologize for sounding snotty. I was preemptively gearing up for a denial or something, I guess.

No, no, you weren't getting snotty. You were stating a point. And I have to realize that some things I may say will offend people. And I really do apologize, for my offending ways.

[DrowningFishy]

La Llorona: Putting this back on topic now that mod the sims is back at working. There is a story La Llorona, the woman who drowned her three kids. The first time I herd of this story was when someone I cared deeply for crashed his bike after hearing her screams. It's funny because I believe in ghosts yet I am always skeptical at first. Years later I was traveling for my job with his sister. It was late at night and we had just pulled off into the rest stop near a stream to get some sleep. She said she'd stay awake so I decided to curl up on the trunk of my compact car. I don't know how long I was asleep but I was woken by something tugging at my blanket.

"Don't look April, get up, get in the car and move QUICKLY."

Well that is enough to snap anyone awake. I grabbed my blanket and shoved it into the car with out looking back but keeping an eye on her. At this point I am thinking animal what could it be. Once I am in she gets in and she orders me to drive and shut up. Just before I start the car I hear a shrill cry.

"DON"T LOOK DRIVE!"

Well I didn't look back till I herd another cry and something hard and heavy striking the car. And I mean hard, so hard we both screamed. Think this story ends here; guess who forgot her celphone on the ground. I'll spare the time to what happened on our return but apon exiting there was nothing in the road as we left agian.

Possessed Doll: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania: Again traveling with my job, and we had to find rooms to rent while we stayed in differnt cities. This one came with a warning: Beware of Candy. Candy was this old doll that sat in his attic. But fearing its wrath no matter how creepy it was he never got rid of it. After meeting the doll we decided not to take this as a grain of salt and never approach the doll again. Nights later me and her are sharing the same bed and I am dead alseep. I wake up to the feel of something gripping my arm to the point it hurts. I roll over just in time to see two large eyes and two forms flee off the bed. She would describe them as golum like figures with glowing eyes. Fudge me, I was left to the task of walking across the room and turning on the light. Reluctently we brought this up to him and he replied "I see you met Candy."

Unknown Same house, and well before I saw the anime Bleach: The thing about this house was before we came it was damaged, shoot mud still doted the floor here in there. One night it was raining hard and you could hear the creek in the back roaring. Fearing another flood while he was out my friend asked me to go in back and check on the creek. The back door had warped shut so going out the back door was not an option. I go in back and it suddenly gets really dark, and the rain seems to dwindle. Another thing that strikes me as completely odd is the neighbors annoying dog isn't growling. Something in my gut tells me to stop and I do. It is then I notice the the darkness is moving, moving out of the creek bed and towards me. It was larger then me probably past the second story window and I could make out a clawed hand... I never ventured back into that backyard at night. I'd rather take my chances with Candy.

I do beleive there are things out there, I even believe in angels. There has been times I have felt something hold me back only for something to happen right in front of me. I have blanked out and drove the wrong way only to hear about a wreck that happened should I have gone the right way.

Paranormal: par·a·nor·mal/ˌparəˈnôrməl/
Adjective: Denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding.

[Yazoo]

I believe in Angels as well. And I also believe in Demons. There are so many things out their. Beings or life forms. Or ghosts and aliens. Its a matter of how people see the world. I just remember my encounters. And its going to sound weird when I say this..

All my life, I was a skeptic. Then I heard stories, and I had my own accounts. I do remember one story my cousin told me

My Cousin's Encounter: My cousin was spending the night at a friends house. He had heard different things. Nothing in the norm. So, he got up, and went to look around. Nothing. But when he went to bed, he looked up and he literally saw a face staring down at him. He hid beneath the covers and didn't get out from beneath them until dawn.

[DrowningFishy]

WHy is it that people assume all ghost encounters will be scary, and most of all why the fudge do people think the covers will keep them safe. If somethign wants to get you those blankets will do nothing.

[Yazoo]

LMAO xD because most people watch those movies about ghost encounters, and believe that it will be just like that. And honestly, people get that from the movies. Or watching a show on TV, and then they realize...Oh wow I was wrong.

I honestly don't get it either. But my cousin was pretty dang young. He said he was 10 when that happened. Sooooooo, seeing something that at 10, yeah I think I would have been scared as well.

[DrowningFishy]

I think I mentioned ealier about a ghost in one of our houses that would unscrew the light bulb. I remeber cussing out the ghost and threatoning it with a preist if it didn't stop when ever it started up. Funny thing is on several occasions it indeed stop. Personallly I can't tell if that was cowincidence or not, but I think telling something to go away is more effective then cloth... Though I wouldn't threaton anything that you may fear is out to get you. XD Either that or sleep with the lights on, the scary ones hate the light.

:Giggles: I have this horrible habit of walking around in the dark. There used to be this ghost that would litterally mess with me to the point I'd end up walking into the wall. It was an easy walk, but man, if he wanted to play he got me. Actually that might not have been a ghost but a fairy because around the time he arrived a fairy ring appeared in the basement. Man my grandma was PISSED what that happened. Still don't know what the material is on the floor but ::coughs:: there is a pernament fairy ring on my nans basement floor. Swear the basement was made into two terrotries Fairy, and polterguist never knew who was going to mess with you.

[Yazoo]

I think I mentioned ealier about a ghost in one of our houses that would unscrew the light bulb. I remeber cussing out the ghost and threatoning it with a preist if it didn't stop when ever it started up. Funny thing is on several occasions it indeed stop. Personallly I can't tell if that was cowincidence or not, but I think telling something to go away is more effective then cloth... Though I wouldn't threaton anything that you may fear is out to get you. XD Either that or sleep with the lights on, the scary ones hate the light.

:Giggles: I have this horrible habit of walking around in the dark. There used to be this ghost that would litterally mess with me to the point I'd end up walking into the wall. It was an easy walk, but man, if he wanted to play he got me. Actually that might not have been a ghost but a fairy because around the time he arrived a fairy ring appeared in the basement. Man my grandma was PISSED what that happened. Still don't know what the material is on the floor but ::coughs:: there is a pernament fairy ring on my nans basement floor. Swear the basement was made into two terrotries Fairy, and polterguist never knew who was going to mess with you.

Oh wow! Dang! I actually have to say that is weird but in a weird way cool. Fairies! And no, not like Tinkerbell.

I did have this ghost. The woman that walked passed my dorm room. She was very sweet. Whenever I cried, I seriously would feel arms around me. I would feel warmth within the coldness. Its weird, it really is. But it is true. I never went a day being alone. Because if I was upset...She was there embracing me, ensuring me that everything would be alright. That is one of the nicest things, that I ever had. :)

And I have to ask...Is your grandma still heated over the Fairy Ring?

[DrowningFishy]

And I have to ask...Is your grandma still heated over the Fairy Ring?

My grandma passed away years ago and now she haunts the house. 0_o everyone BUT my dad has seen her at least once.

Which brings me to something else. When you enter my nans house you enter throw the garage, walking into the house you pass a lower section with the the stairs to the basement then step up into the kitchen. On the night my nan had collapsed I had just come home and was about to step into the kitchen when this force shoved me back and nearly down the stairs. Just like it wanted me to get out and stay out. If I hadn't come home that night my nan would have died then and there and not suffered for two more weeks. Even when my nan lay brain dead in the hospital what ever it was would not let me near her. I surrendered and never visited my nan in the end.

[Yazoo]

My grandma passed away years ago and now she haunts the house. 0_o everyone BUT my dad has seen her at least once.

Oh, I am sorry. I didn't mean to ask...And well at least she is at home :) And she loves being there, I hope ^.^

[DrowningFishy]

She probably doesn't (read above I was editing XD) my nan was never a happy woman. She was always angry about something. Shoot she only smiled when she was really ticked. The funeral home put a smile on my nans face and no one went near the casket in fear of getting their ass kicked by a dead woman. god she looked so pissed when she was laid into the ground.

[Yazoo]

She probably doesn't (read above I was editing XD) my nan was never a happy woman. She was always angry about something. Shoot she only smiled when she was really ticked. The funeral home put a smile on my nans face and no one went near the casket in fear of getting their ass kicked by a dead woman. god she looked so pissed when she was laid into the ground.

I tried not to laugh, lol. But wow, I did. Lol. And I am sorry. But hey...At least she had a smile :P Okay, well, even if she wanted to kick someone's ass. If I had seen that I would have been like you and the rest of the family, and just stay my distance. Mhm.

[SimsLover50]

I believe in Et's and Fairies. Thats about it. ET's are only logical. We can hardly be the only life out there.

I believe in Fairies because my mother said she saw one as a child. She describes it quite vividly, and would not lie about it. Plus Fairies are cool.

I really do only beleieve in other supernatural stuff though. None of it really can be scientifically proven (not even fairies heh).

[PhenethyaSim]

I believe in ghosts thats an easy one to believe theres pleant of proof. plus I have had experiences of my own.

Aliens? yes and no I believe that life exists on other planets but alot(not all) of sitings and abductions are misidentifications, fakes, and hallucinations. Oh and I don't think they are little green people either. intrestingly enough the vatican released a stament that it wouldn't be against catholisim to believe in the possibility of life on other planets.

Cryptids definitly. The most likely in my mind is the Thylacine but the others I tend to think are or recently were real too. but as for the Thylacine I think scientists are being stupid about.

I believe in magic in some form.

I believe in quite a bit acctually But I don't know what would be considered paranormal persay. and its not just belife its hope I don't want to live in a world where everything is known and explanable I think no magic no wonder that would be a hopeless kind of place.

[Yazoo]

I believe in ghosts thats an easy one to believe theres pleant of proof. plus I have had experiences of my own.

Aliens? yes and no I believe that life exists on other planets but alot(not all) of sitings and abductions are misidentifications, fakes, and hallucinations. Oh and I don't think they are little green people either. intrestingly enough the vatican released a stament that it wouldn't be against catholisim to believe in the possibility of life on other planets.

Cryptids definitly. The most likely in my mind is the Thylacine but the others I tend to think are or recently were real too. but as for the Thylacine I think scientists are being stupid about.

I believe in magic in some form.

I believe in quite a bit acctually But I don't know what would be considered paranormal persay. and its not just belife its hope I don't want to live in a world where everything is known and explanable I think no magic no wonder that would be a hopeless kind of place.

Magic? I never even thought about that one. That is a good look at things. So, may I ask, do you believe that Chris Angel is a real magic user? Or are we talking about deeper magic, such as witches? o.o!

Oh! I did forget, that I do believe that this Vampires (Totally off subject) but I do, and I do believe in Werewolves.

[DrowningFishy]

You know I read some place that if vampires were real that it would lead to human exstinction. Based on people being turned vampires, and just being eaten the human population couldn't breed fast enough to keep up with demand. IT actually was an interesting read. But you know with all the other weird stuff out there you never know. But for the love of god VAMPIRES DON"T SPARKLE!

[KKiryu007Joker]

VAMPIRES DON"T SPARKLE!

Unless they love glitter!

[Yazoo]

You know I read some place that if vampires were real that it would lead to human exstinction. Based on people being turned vampires, and just being eaten the human population couldn't breed fast enough to keep up with demand. IT actually was an interesting read. But you know with all the other weird stuff out there you never know. But for the love of god VAMPIRES DON"T SPARKLE!

LMAO xD I am not into sparkling Vampires. That would utterly sad, LMAO xD but yeah I do believe in them o.o

[vhanster]

Well, I'm not sure if I actually have any believe about it. I never have any personal encounter with supernatural beings and I don't have anything to confirm their existence aside from other people's testimonies (I really don't think the principle of presupposition can be applied in this case); on the other hand, I'm not omniscient, and I do not have the comprehension of every single existence in reality to proclaim that they "do not exist".

[PhenethyaSim]

Magic? I never even thought about that one. That is a good look at things. So, may I ask, do you believe that Chris Angel is a real magic user? Or are we talking about deeper magic, such as witches? o.o!

Oh! I did forget, that I do believe that this Vampires (Totally off subject) but I do, and I do believe in Werewolves.

No Chris Angel is a very talented modern magician and not a real magic user. I don't really know if I believe in witchs either at least not in the way most people think of witches. how I think of magic is diffrent then how many would assume it would be.

Chris Angel doesn't even believe in real "magic" or psychic powers he was a judge on a whos the best new "magician" or whatever and one of the contestants apperently communicated with the dead on stage and he basicly said it was total bull because none of that stuff is real its just slight of hand and stuff.

I personally disagree with that veiw But I do agree that the contestant was full of crap

As for vampires I think perhapse the could be real but I wouldn't put to much stock in it.

Lycanthropy however is real on one if not several levels. personally I don't think its only a mental illness.

[Yazoo]

Well, I am not sure. I do believe in both. I know that there are people out there that drink blood. And which Vampires do, and as for Lycanthropes, I do believe they are there too. Doctors and what not like to claim something doesn't exist if it doesn't appeal to them. Because they always want to be right. And honestly, I do believe that people have a past life, or several past lives.

I believe that with myself even that I have lived for many years. I have had 6 past lives. Call me crazy, I do not care, but I honestly believe that.

[KKiryu007Joker]

I believe that with myself even that I have lived for many years. I have had 6 past lives. Call me crazy, I do not care, but I honestly believe that.

I've always thought something similar about myself, so I don't think you're crazy at all.

[PhenethyaSim]

I don't think I have any past lives personally but there is compelling evidence that some people have and I tend to think its accurate.

[paksetti]

Well, I'm not sure if I actually have any believe about it. I never have any personal encounter with supernatural beings and I don't have anything to confirm their existence aside from other people's testimonies (I really don't think the principle of presupposition can be applied in this case); on the other hand, I'm not omniscient, and I do not have the comprehension of every single existence in reality to proclaim that they "do not exist".

^ this. Pretty much my feelings summed up more eloquently.

[Yazoo]

I've always thought something similar about myself, so I don't think you're crazy at all.

I knew I wasn't crazy!!! YAY! Ahem, anyway. Some will believe that there is such things as a past life, and some will believe that this life is the only life that they ever had. I just have these dreams of the past, as if I lived in them. Never watched a show like it. I could smell the flowers, feel the breeze against my flesh.

Heck! I could feel the jerk of the carriage as it begins to move. I know its weird, but maybe that is why I feel as if I didn't get enough sleep. Because I feel everything that I dream of, as if I was there. Then I have that deja-vu feeling as if I had been somewhere or I have seen that person. And honestly, I probably have in one of my past lives o.o

[DrowningFishy]

I knew I wasn't crazy!!! YAY! Ahem, anyway. Some will believe that there is such things as a past life, and some will believe that this life is the only life that they ever had. I just have these dreams of the past, as if I lived in them. Never watched a show like it. I could smell the flowers, feel the breeze against my flesh.

Heck! I could feel the jerk of the carriage as it begins to move. I know its weird, but maybe that is why I feel as if I didn't get enough sleep. Because I feel everything that I dream of, as if I was there. Then I have that deja-vu feeling as if I had been somewhere or I have seen that person. And honestly, I probably have in one of my past lives o.o

HEY the belief in reincarnation has to come from somewhere. Why would some people believe in it if it wasn't a possiblity or some people thinking it happened.

[sierrakusterbeck]

Definitely. Lately I've been reeeeally interested in ghosts cause I got Ghost Adventures on netflix and saw Paranormal Activity 1-3 and just got really interested. I think my first encounter was when I was around 7-10. I lived in this really old house and my sister and I would always hear footsteps outside our window and in the hallway and things would always fall down in the pantry and lights would flicker on and off.
My friend's house is also haunted. One day my mom bought me a ouija board and I brought it to her house with another friend and they started asking questions (I was sitting off to the side, the whole night I had an odd feeling and all the lights were out so I was too scared :S) and nothing happened. We all went downstairs after that and got some food and went back up and about half an hour later all the lights upstairs turned out (my friend's stepdad went outside and turned it all off from the box cause we were too loud) and all night we heard footsteps coming up the stairs and the cabinets downstairs slamming and my friend even saw someone sitting on the couch downstairs even though everyone was in bed. A few hours later I asked my friends if they ever said goodbye on the board and they admitted they forgot to and creepy things have been going on there ever since aoidkfg. I get chills every time I talk about what happened and I always feel like I'm being watched over there!

[Dordracio]

Pfft ghosts alians warewolves vampires. Crazy talk crazy talk. The worst belief is vampires and warewolfs. No offence raven but drowning has got a point. If vampire and werewolfs did exist, they would eat off our population in about 50 years. I do belive in God. Oh ano offense to the the person about the fairy but thats just not realistic. Oh and a U.F.O is a UNINDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT it could be anything. A helicoptor, a weather kite, anything that can fly.

But theres a couple of paranormal things i belive. Hmmm oh yeah telekinikies i cant spell it but its bacicly like using the force in star wars. Hmm thats all i can remember. I have this book that has a bunch of scary stuff. One content is paranormal. I will explain my excounter about the telekinies

[KKiryu007Joker]

I wish the paranormal could exist more openly so this guy could:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcG_UMHrkqk

(or maybe not...)

[Dordracio]

Firse encounter: telekenies (damn cant spell it)

Ok once i was in a silent room doing my homework then i lost of track and started making movents with my hand, concentrating on the pencil, i did a flicking movement. And you wont believe what happend. The land of the pencil flung off! I was like what the frick!



I also forgot to say in the above post that you cant claim that alians or ghost exesit. You CAN belive but you cant say that "aliens exist. End of discution. No questions asked" or somthing like that

[PhenethyaSim]

Firse encounter: telekenies (damn cant spell it)

Ok once i was in a silent room doing my homework then i lost of track and started making movents with my hand, concentrating on the pencil, i did a flicking movement. And you wont believe what happend. The land of the pencil flung off! I was like what the frick!



I also forgot to say in the above post that you cant claim that alians or ghost exesit. You CAN belive but you cant say that "aliens exist. End of discution. No questions asked" or somthing like that

I can't prove ghost but any one with basic math skills would relise that Aliens are a numbers game if you take the sie of the universe the number of planets minus ones that cannot support any form of life you still have thousands upon thousands that can and probably do support some form of life

I'M NOT saying that they have ever visited earth or that the life is even intellegent but would you be willing to admit that other planets likely have PLANT life or even simple organisms such as worms? or spiders perhapse?

[Dordracio]

I can't prove ghost but any one with basic math skills would relise that Aliens are a numbers game if you take the sie of the universe the number of planets minus ones that cannot support any form of life you still have thousands upon thousands that can and probably do support some form of life

I'M NOT saying that they have ever visited earth or that the life is even intellegent but would you be willing to admit that other planets likely have PLANT life or even simple organisms such as worms? or spiders perhapse?

Well i di hear they found bactiria on mars

[harmonee_el]

I believe in Ghost!My Grandfather would always see Ghost.He died 2 separate times and was brought back,and after he started seeing ghost.My land is haunted by two Native American children.But I don't believe in the Aliens,Bigfoot,Vampires,Werewolves.I believe that Alien stuff is our Military.The Government have many secrets.

[Tempscire]

I can't prove ghost but any one with basic math skills would relise that Aliens are a numbers game if you take the sie of the universe the number of planets minus ones that cannot support any form of life you still have thousands upon thousands that can and probably do support some form of life

Even so, at best you can say it's statistically probable that life exists elsewhere in some form, but we still can't definitively, absolutely say so. It's an importance difference.

[Dordracio]

Oh yes i do belive in this very extreamly low known cryptic called The Elephant Fish! All i can say that thers only 1. And it lives forever, unless it is killed. And that if the elephant fish finds you swimming in the lake, it might grab you by the legs with its big long tunk, thats where it got his name, and try to drown you. Once your dead, he will eat you. He can turn into a human, but only to get from one lake to another. But dont worry if you dont live in canada. He only haunts canada. Only about 10-15 people, including me, in the world who knows about the full story of the elephant fish

[Yazoo]

HEY the belief in reincarnation has to come from somewhere. Why would some people believe in it if it wasn't a possiblity or some people thinking it happened.

Well, you are right. See for an example, yes I will bring up a movie. Look at the Mummy 2. When he saw that woman she looked like his woman from the past. But it was body, not spirit. The difference with that and past lives. Is that the spirit continues to go with the person over the years. I was watching the live action Chinese movie of Mulan, and her father said:

"If you want to fight, then be a boy in your next life."

And I really do that people have past lives. I will not say what I was in my past lives. But its also something I believe in. Lets see in three of my past lives I was a male, and the rest I was females. I know this, because I do remember a lot from my past lives. Think of me crazy, insane! I don't care, this is what I believe!

I have seen ghosts, I have seen U.F.Os. One thing I haven't seen, is an alien. And not those depictions from Independence Day or War of the Worlds. We can't be entirely certain of what they look like or how they act. HECK they may be better at speaking English than the world combined. But do we know that? No, we do not.

[Rawra]

It's really bugging me how most of the movies with aliens and stuff pictures them as bad guys, come here to conquer Earth. I'd rather believe in a possible future connection between many intelligent species from other planets and Earth, alliances between them, tourism in other galaxies, intergalactic economy, an organization like a council or something, with members from each species, which would watch over these... Like Mass Effect.

Of course, I will probably not live long enough to actually experience these, as humanity can't even land on a planet in this galaxy at this moment, but it would be really awesome.

[Yazoo]

Hey, you know The Creeper, maybe one day. I do know for certain the worse planet to land on would be Venus. The atmosphere is so dense there, once entering we would be crushed. And I think that would be a very painful way to die. And I honestly, do not think that is a great to go either. *shakes head*

And yes, it is pretty sad how Aliens are presented to us. I think there are only a few movies that have Aliens depicted as good beings. E.T was one of those movies. I think if we were to ACTUALLY study other life forms, then maybe we would understand them. But for us to do that, we need to interact with them. None of that

"I was probed."

We don't know if Aliens actually probe people. If that was the case, then I guess they could in some ways be depicted bad. But I just don't see it. I feel as if Aliens want to learn from us, in which I have no clue why. We only care about war and ourselves. That's pretty much how things are. I wonder if one day we will be ever to land on Mars, I know that they are trying to find a way to do so. So, if Earth is destroyed, we can make a life there. But the middle class people, maybe killed, because I doubt any of us will have the money to go to Mars to start a new life.

[KKiryu007Joker]

It's really bugging me how most of the movies with aliens and stuff pictures them as bad guys, come here to conquer Earth. I'd rather believe in a possible future connection between many intelligent species from other planets and Earth, alliances between them, tourism in other galaxies, intergalactic economy, an organization like a council or something, with members from each species, which would watch over these... Like Mass Effect.

Of course, I will probably not live long enough to actually experience these, as humanity can't even land on a planet in this galaxy at this moment, but it would be really awesome.

It would be too complicated to communicate, they would give each other diseases, and aliens could just consist of alternatively colored chickens and cows, or pink fungus. Also humans might be the ones to attack them, for all we know, although all humans are different.

[Rawra]

I was talking about a possible situation in which a contact would not be dangerous for either one of the sides; and I specifically mentioned intelligent species, therefore no chickens here.

[Tempscire]

It's really bugging me how most of the movies with aliens and stuff pictures them as bad guys, come here to conquer Earth.
Hollywood aliens are a projection of humanity. Humans have a long history of conquering (or attempting to) the new and the other; why not aliens as well? (Or alternately we could view alien media as big allegories for humanity, but the existence or relevance of subtext is a whole 'other topic.) Though presumably aliens (within a species or across many) would be like humans inasmuch as they/we vary: some would want to kill us, some would want to ignore or befriend us. Or some might be so different from us that they'd want to kill us only because they're incapable of recognizing us as sentient beings (and hey, who's to say we are? we'd certainly like to believe so, but we're biased), just as we might someday inadvertently kill off a bunch of aliens due to thinking they were all actually rocks or the extraterrestrial equivalent of ants or something. (One of my favorite alien-motifed stories is kicked off when aliens send out a "if you're there, come find us" message, but they communicate in part by creating viruses to pass to each other, and their message infects and proceeds to kill much of 90% of Earth's population.)

Or maybe it's just not very interesting to make movies about people all getting along and no one trying to blow anyone else up. Not the big blockbuster kind of movies that get any attention outside of film festivals, anyway. :) It would be nice to see more "impossibly bad miscommunication" flicks rather than "entirely warlike species seeks to eliminate tenacious humans," though.


It would be too complicated to communicate,
Perhaps at first, but judging the difficulty of communication hinges on lots of assumptions. A species able to communicate telepathically exclusively with other beings of such-and-such attribute that enables the ability would be pretty difficult. Another species with verbal and/or written communication would be much easier, though of course that again requires the presumption that two creatures who developed in completely different worlds would even be able to recognize the other as another being with whom they'd want to communicate, or had any common ground in ideas or language that could facilitate it. (What kind of conversation would a human have with a worm?) Still, scientists already have a plan for opening the dialog of trying to start a conversation...though it hinges on the other species being at least as advanced as we are, haha. Anyway, it starts with math and elements and goes from there. If that path were an option, it wouldn't be "too" complicated, I think. And once vocabularies and basic customs are learned, it gets a lot ...not easier, I guess, but less complicated.

[Yazoo]

Nothing is too complicated. I mean hell, look at what the Japanese have done. And US is just getting there. They are so technological advanced, its unreal. So how do we not know that people who have that technology hasn't tried? I mean if I could have a chance to speak to another life form, I totally would. I think it would be awesome.

Then again, we can also look at it this way, all those people that say they have been "probed" they have "communicated" to the life form. Did they not? Though some of it, we can ask ourselves, how much of that is true? We do not know the power of what a human mind can hold. Besides, we never know. Maybe they walk among us, and we don't even know.

[FyiGeek]

Yes i do believe in the Paranormal, i have something haunting my house all the time...
It moves shit and throws stuff at me, wakes me up all the time whining!
No wait, that's just my girlfriend never mind i get the two confused...

But yes i do believe, but have not seen one my self, but i do remember as a child living in a house i was really afraid of.
Not just afraid of the dark child stuff but, but see things actually moving, and weird sounds in the night.

[Lance]

This thread reminds me of my favorite party-time entertainment. Surely you all know 'em little 5-person parties at someone's home at midnight. You just sit there, talk, drink tea or beer, all is nice and cozy.
"Hey, John", - you say to the party host, - "What is that white and blinky at your kitchen?" He answers, "Nothing there". You say thoughtfully, "Weird. But maybe you left some electronics turned on." He goes there to check it out, finds nothing. Half an hour later, "John, I'm pretty sure someone called you. Maybe someone's standing under your windows calling for you?" He goes to check it out, finds nothing. "Oh, okay", you say, "Maybe those neighbors of yours talk so very loud I can hear them through the thin apartment walls". Half an hour later, you go into the kitchen for some reason, and you start talking to John. John enters the kitchen, "What?". "Oh, sorry, John, I thought you were standing just behind me". An hour later, you can laugh your lungs out at the sight of John shitting his pants claiming he just saw his late grandmother at the kitchen calling for him. What is remarkable, once a person starts seeing things, he won't believe you saying you tricked him.

The script here is extremely simplified, of course, and works only half of the time. Totally worth all the trouble, though. You want to try it out for yourself, I suggest using the simplest version with the famous "did you hear that?" line. I swear you can psychoanalize people with things they start hearing. Not always superstitious, though, some hear usual city noise with cars parking under the windows... when there's no cars and no space for them to park on.

[Yazoo]

Well, hun. Life isn't a script, surely we could use "The Script" for ourselves. But the thing is, yes he may have seen is late grandmother, she was talking to him, and seeing her great grandson. But the best thing, is to actually experience it yourself. And I have. I have seen ghosts, and I have had ghosts talk too me. I used to NEVER believe in it, until it happened to me. Sure, some ghosts gave me bad vibes, like the one in the female's bathroom in my dorm. But the rest, I felt warm, and knew they were not out to hurt me. There is a ghost in the female's bathroom in the High School, I went too. When I heard her speak to me, did I believe it? No. I thought someone was talking to me, from a different stall that was a few down from me. I thought that for years, until I saw my first ghost. Then I realized that what I had heard that day, was a ghost not anyone else.

I do believe in, what I believe in. Because it has happened to me. Do I believe in Vampires? Yes. Do I believe in Werewolves? Yes. Because I do believe that we are all not human, that some of us were born with estranged DNA. Some people act very odd during the full moon. I had a friend, that would go from happy to pissed of, and hate the world during the Full Moon Phase. do I believe that he is a Werewolf, oh yeah. He may not have to get all beastly and hairy. His actions, said it enough.

[Lance]

Some people act very odd during the full moon. I had a friend, that would go from happy to pissed of, and hate the world during the Full Moon Phase. do I believe that he is a Werewolf, oh yeah. He may not have to get all beastly and hairy. His actions, said it enough.I can't sleep with full moon out. Am I a werewolf too?

[moonlight_frog]

I believe in God... does that count?

I believe in ghosts and spirits, too. Makes me paranoid sometimes...

[Lance]

Wait, wait, wait. I can't sleep while the moon is full. I feel sick in sunlight. I have pale, transparent skin with veins clearly visible. I am cold to the touch. I am told I have unusually pretty, hypnotizing eyes. I bite my lovers. I have sucked human blood and I liked it. Through all my life I've been nicknamed Killer, Vampire, or Dracul.

Strangely, I still think I am human. Dissappointing, huh, Nevermore?

[Yazoo]

I believe in God... does that count?

I believe in ghosts and spirits, too. Makes me paranoid sometimes...

Oddly enough it does count. People believe the Paranormal is something you can't feel or see. But yeah.





Wait, wait, wait. I can't sleep while the moon is full. I feel sick in sunlight. I have pale, transparent skin with veins clearly visible. I am cold to the touch. I am told I have unusually pretty, hypnotizing eyes. I bite my lovers. I have sucked human blood and I liked it. Through all my life I've been nicknamed Killer, Vampire, or Dracul.

Strangely, I still think I am human. Dissappointing, huh, Nevermore?

I was just stating what I believe in. You don't have to be rude about the way you make a statement. But thanks...For making me feel like a moron, that helped me out a lot.

[SimsLover50]

I believe in aliens. Its just logical that we aren't the only beings in existance. I have never personally encountered any paranomral creatures- even though I think they are super cool.

[Yazoo]

One day, SimsLover50, you will see the awesomeness of the after life, like ghosts and stuffs. Just pray that you never run into a Demon, because that is some messy stuff to get involved with, and till this day I will NOT mess with an Ouija Board.

[SimsLover50]

Heh. I don't believe in demons. Reason dictates that an all-loving god would allow them to exist.

I did try an ouija board once when I was a teen, and nothing happened.

[Yazoo]

But if there was no evil, upon this earth, then there would be no balance. Just good. And honestly, that just can't happen. Without sin, there is no redemption. And with no hate, there is no love. Because we wouldn't know of it, otherwise. And if there was no right, would there be no wrong? For, without evil, there only can be good, and balance of humanity would be thrown off.

God loves ALL of his children, but lets face it. Even in families there is always one bad seed, and that bad seed was Lucifer, and that is there is sin, and hate. There is always one in each family. One that has been abused or neglected or even just rebellious. But the bottom line is, there is angels and there is demons. One is where people decided that God's word was right. And there are the people that believe that sin, is a fresh and bold step. There is wrong, and there is right.

Hence, why I believe in Demons, and Angels. I believe in it all.

And I still will not try the Ouija Board, it scares the living shit out of me.

[VerDeTerre]

Nevermore, you've expressed a viewpoint that many in this world share. I have a different spin for all of that. I'd like to explain my viewpoint:

I see it more as people, at times, perhaps all the time, making decisions and acting according to ways that are loving and right and others who, at times, most likely not all of the time, do not act in ways that are kind or helpful to themselves or others for often complicated reasons.

To me it seems that the belief in angels and demons as supernatural creatures is a metaphorical and simpler way to describe a complicated reality. I do believe in spirits and I do believe there are those spirits that guide humans from time to time. I wouldn't call them angels, but I suppose it would fit, somewhat. There are people that I've met that I consider angels.There is a tremendous amount of suffering on this planet. Most, not all, of it is caused by other people. Some is caused by disease, poverty, and other natural misfortunes. Good, loving people, can do much to relieve the suffering of the poor, the sick, and the devastated.

I see heaven and hell taking place, here, on earth. When we are very happy, when life is absolutely good and we are loved and in harmony with our neighbors - that's one definition of heaven. When we are gossiping or hurting others, when we feel out of sorts because we have been emotionally hurt and are emotionally hurting others - that's one definition of hell.

Heaven = harmony, accord, peace, well being, being loved and being loving
Hell= disharmony, discord, anger and sadness, hate, negative energy

Growth is achieved by overcoming difficulties and by learning to play well with others. Isn't life difficult enough without an external hell or supernatural forces of evil?

The God I believe in is loving and would not wish hell or evil on anyone.

[RoseCity]

I don't 'believe' in werewolves, vampires or ghosts. I think it's mainly wish fulfillment and projection. And just personally and hypothetically, I wouldn't want to die and then have to float around as a ghost. I'd rather just be gone and be done with it.
I think that the 'psychics' I've encountered are shysters who prey on the sadness of others.
But I do think we have strengths, powers and abilities within ourselves that aren't well understood and are largely unused.

[SimsLover50]

Let me try to explain what I think.

See, I just don't believe in Lucifer or demons or any of that. God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, so Lucifer straying would have to be something he planned in advance, and I just don't see god doing that. I think Lucifer is more of a bogeman designed to frighten people and keep them in line, and is a creation of man- rather than something God would create.

I believe there is plenty of evil, simply none that is inspired by supernaturally beings and most by the will of man. Humans can do evil things and should take responsibility for such. Not blame it on some outside evil. I also don't believe in sin, or cosmic beancounting of any sort. There is clearly evil and good, though, but as what is sinful has been horribly misused, in the past.

Demons, I think are the early people's method of explaining mental illness. Sad but true, that this is still the belief in many countries today.

I am not suggesting you try the ouija board at all. Just relating my experience that nothing happened when I did so.

[KayVoorhees]

I believe in the paranormal and demonic entities.

[VerDeTerre]

Let me try to explain what I think. See, I just don't believe in Lucifer or demons or any of that. God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, so Lucifer straying would have to be something he planned in advance, and I just don't see god doing that. I think Lucifer is more of a bogeman designed to frighten people and keep them in line, and is a creation of man- rather than something God would create. I agree with this. I see it almost along the lines of a myth or story to explain what people observe or for teaching purposes.

Demons, I think are the early people's method of explaining mental illness. Sad but true, that this is still the belief in many countries today. Yes, you can see this in exorcisms, the mentally ill are targeted. The old and the infirm have been targeted throughout history in witch hunts.

[RoseCity]

This topic made me remember the prologue of this This American Life radio episode - really good if you haven't heard it. It's only about 6 minutes long.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/319/and-the-call-was-coming-from-the-basement?act=0

[LuvSims2011]

My friend told me that a ghost was haunting her house. Okay, I believe.

[Yazoo]

Nevermore, you've expressed a viewpoint that many in this world share. I have a different spin for all of that. I'd like to explain my viewpoint:

I see it more as people, at times, perhaps all the time, making decisions and acting according to ways that are loving and right and others who, at times, most likely not all of the time, do not act in ways that are kind or helpful to themselves or others for often complicated reasons.

To me it seems that the belief in angels and demons as supernatural creatures is a metaphorical and simpler way to describe a complicated reality. I do believe in spirits and I do believe there are those spirits that guide humans from time to time. I wouldn't call them angels, but I suppose it would fit, somewhat. There are people that I've met that I consider angels.There is a tremendous amount of suffering on this planet. Most, not all, of it is caused by other people. Some is caused by disease, poverty, and other natural misfortunes. Good, loving people, can do much to relieve the suffering of the poor, the sick, and the devastated.

I see heaven and hell taking place, here, on earth. When we are very happy, when life is absolutely good and we are loved and in harmony with our neighbors - that's one definition of heaven. When we are gossiping or hurting others, when we feel out of sorts because we have been emotionally hurt and are emotionally hurting others - that's one definition of hell.

Heaven = harmony, accord, peace, well being, being loved and being loving
Hell= disharmony, discord, anger and sadness, hate, negative energy

Growth is achieved by overcoming difficulties and by learning to play well with others. Isn't life difficult enough without an external hell or supernatural forces of evil?

The God I believe in is loving and would not wish hell or evil on anyone.




Let me try to explain what I think.

See, I just don't believe in Lucifer or demons or any of that. God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, so Lucifer straying would have to be something he planned in advance, and I just don't see god doing that. I think Lucifer is more of a bogeman designed to frighten people and keep them in line, and is a creation of man- rather than something God would create.

I believe there is plenty of evil, simply none that is inspired by supernaturally beings and most by the will of man. Humans can do evil things and should take responsibility for such. Not blame it on some outside evil. I also don't believe in sin, or cosmic beancounting of any sort. There is clearly evil and good, though, but as what is sinful has been horribly misused, in the past.

Demons, I think are the early people's method of explaining mental illness. Sad but true, that this is still the belief in many countries today.

I am not suggesting you try the ouija board at all. Just relating my experience that nothing happened when I did so.

I see both of your points. However, if I do state an opinion to these statements, we would go from what my thread is now, to a Debate thread, immediately. I will just say this, God doesn't make evil. Evil makes itself. And Lucifer was jealous of God, and believed that he was just as perfect and as powerful as God. There is a whole scripture of that incident. But I'm not here to preach to anyone, and say:

"Oh, I'm right, and you're wrong."

Or

"Well, that's an interesting point, but hey guess what? You're wrong."

But I do see your points, both of yours. And I guess I can see where you two are coming from. And as pointed out, there are different opinions. And in any case, I'm actually glad I got to see two others. Therefore, I can see where you two are coming from (Yes, I've noticed I've repeated myself, sorry)

But I do thank you two, for stating out your opinions, I now have a lot to think about o.o

[VerDeTerre]

Nevermore, I think you just expressed the difference between a debate and a discussion. In a debate, one tries to persuade others to his point of view. In a discussion, people share their knowledge, insights, thoughts, and viewpoints. I prefer discussions. Even if I don't agree with someone, as you said, I can still learn something.

[Elyasis]

Let me try to explain what I think.

See, I just don't believe in Lucifer or demons or any of that. God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, so Lucifer straying would have to be something he planned in advance, and I just don't see god doing that. I think Lucifer is more of a bogeman designed to frighten people and keep them in line, and is a creation of man- rather than something God would create.

I believe there is plenty of evil, simply none that is inspired by supernaturally beings and most by the will of man. Humans can do evil things and should take responsibility for such. Not blame it on some outside evil. I also don't believe in sin, or cosmic beancounting of any sort. There is clearly evil and good, though, but as what is sinful has been horribly misused, in the past.

Demons, I think are the early people's method of explaining mental illness. Sad but true, that this is still the belief in many countries today.

I am not suggesting you try the ouija board at all. Just relating my experience that nothing happened when I did so.

If God is perfect and would not have created Lucifer as the impetus of evil and sin why would he give humans free will to sin and be evil? Either way he has set up the universe to allow such atrocities to take place. If this was not a mistake than it was planned from the beginning for some unfathomable reason. :blink:

:wtf:


It's really bugging me how most of the movies with aliens and stuff pictures them as bad guys, come here to conquer Earth. I'd rather believe in a possible future connection between many intelligent species from other planets and Earth, alliances between them, tourism in other galaxies, intergalactic economy, an organization like a council or something, with members from each species, which would watch over these... Like Mass Effect.

Of course, I will probably not live long enough to actually experience these, as humanity can't even land on a planet in this galaxy at this moment, but it would be really awesome.

There is AVATAR. Humans were kind of the bad guys in that one. Although, not entirely. Also, Men in Black showed both cooperative alien races and less cooperative ones (Bugs!)
Probably more than that but I'm too tired to remember them all.

[simsample]

I will just say this, God doesn't make evil. Evil makes itself.
Hmmm:
http://bible.cc/isaiah/45-7.htm

But that's a discussion for our Religion threads. :)

[Yazoo]

Ah, yes, you are right simsample. And I do apologize that this has gotten a little off topic. But I guess it was the Demon thing that made it drive off the path of Paranormal discussion. And I apologize.

I just got to ask though, if you have see people be possessed, how can people not believe in demons? And demons don't go for just mental handicapped, or elderly. Do you remember the movie the "Exorcist" starring Linda Blair? That was based on a true story, a healthy boy, no mental problems. Except like I said, it was a boy not a girl.Its real, and people do believe that Ouija Board does open a portal for evil spiritual beings to come out. Sure, some people may not have contact with the dead, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Take seances for that matter. You get a group of people together, and call for someone to talk too. Not usually a live person, its a person that has been dead for awhile. You can contact anyone and everyone. I mean look at it this way. You get a group of people, and do the "Light as a feather, stiff as a board." And it does work. My mother was into witchcraft at one point, and did all those things. Most people think you have to SEE to believe. But maybe it needs to be the other way around, believe to see. Because if you don't believe it, can you not see it? That is why I believe in the paranormal and the supernatural...Yeah, its just another term for it :D

[SimsLover50]

If God is perfect and would not have created Lucifer as the impetus of evil and sin why would he give humans free will to sin and be evil? Either way he has set up the universe to allow such atrocities to take place. If this was not a mistake than it was planned from the beginning for some unfathomable reason. :blink:

:wtf:

God likes variety?

I perceive god as being sort of as we are to ants. We don't freak out when ants make war, kill an enemy queen and take over a nest. That is how they were designed. That is nature. For me, humans have a nature too... One that is complex. God gave us this as well, so he's going to be hardly surprised when we aren't perfect. He designed us that way.

That is not an excuse not to strive to be above one's nature...I'm sure that will be pleasing for ourselves, others and God.

At least that's my take.

[DrowningFishy]

wasn't this a conversation about paranormal not god (if there is one)? Maybe I clicked on the wrong forum

[SimsLover50]

@Drowingfishy Yep. Sorry to derail the thread. Will no longer post religious related topics... although I suppose it could be argued that there are elements of religion in paranormal critters such as demons and devils etc.

[opiumgirl]

wasn't this a conversation about paranormal not god (if there is one)? Maybe I clicked on the wrong forum

No you didn't
I have to believe in extra-terrestrial life, how not?
I have never thought about werewolves and the like

I do believe in ghosts, I have lived with a ghost. I just don't believe that they are dead people, just the echos, if you understand. like a cd getting stuck.

I have had some really weird experiences that I don't know how to classify of explain and frankly I don't try to.

1. I was walking home with my friends after working late. We were walking next to a river. I heard a sound like static and I looked around and I saw literally a shrub with a face and it was making the sound. I was not the only one who saw it.

2. I used to live in the oldest town in our country( same place as above) I saw this often: a little man like a shadow, knee high, running across the road. I saw this in various places, at different times, with different people, at different times of the day.

So yes I am a believer of sorts.

[kristie91]

Maybe God got bored? I mean he must of been to create humans.
Aliens probably do exist, rather or not they actually have ever visited earth I'm not so sure about.
Ghosts I'm not to sure about. Maybe if I experienced something myself my opinion would change. Rather or not they are remnants of the dead or some other thing I don't know either.
Werewolves and vampires I never really believed in. Though vampires I guess could exist but they wouldn't be like the vampires in books and movies. Werewolves with the ability to transform their bodies equals no.
I do believe in a higher power, a god being. But I don't really have a particular religion though my family is Christian.
I wonder if some other life form is out there wondering if there are aliens. Because to them we would be aliens and of course a part of paranormal which is funny to think about.

[AkiMiyu]

I like to believe in it. Any place that's been rumored as haunted, I wanna go there. TV over exaggerates the paranormal however and Ghost Adventures, show on the Travel Channel, does this more than any other show. It's still fun to watch though since it's one of my favorites ^^

I just don't believe in UFOs or Bigfoot or any other mythical creature but spirits... yeah I'd say they exist, I just haven't encountered one yet.

[Yazoo]

But Aliens are reallllllll! There is a gazillion planets out there! Why wouldn't there be any lifeforms there? Is earth the only one? I mean...That would be just like really weird. I think there is lifeforms on other planets, there has to be! HAS TO BE! I tell ya! >.<

[simsample]

But Aliens are reallllllll! There is a gazillion planets out there! Why wouldn't there be any lifeforms there? Is earth the only one? I mean...That would be just like really weird. I think there is lifeforms on other planets, there has to be! HAS TO BE! I tell ya! >.<

If only we knew what figures to plug into the Drake Equation! But it seems that planets are very common indeed, so perhaps habitable planets will prove to be common.

I think the extraterrestrials came here, saw that there were no good parties going on, and left!

[Yazoo]

LMAO xD I wouldn't be surprise if they did that. UNLESS! They are plotting our demise! Like in War Of The Worlds. Nah, I really don't think Aliens are out to hurt us, just to see how we live. I think they just want to observe not to hurt. Well, unless you are a moron that was supposedly "probed"

[simsample]

Well, unless you are a moron that was supposedly "probed"
So why don't you believe in people who claim to have been 'probed' by extraterrestrials, yet you do believe people who claim to have had experience with Vampires and werewolves, angels and demons?

Ghosts and reincarnation you claim to have experienced yourself but you've never seen, say, a werewolf, so why is ET abduction any more ridiculous than that?

I would have said that there are more documented accounts of alien abduction (most of it unpleasant) than of werewolf sighting/ biting.

[Yazoo]

Because most of those people that claim to be abducted are liars. Just like some people who claim to have had Vampire, Werewolf, Angel, or Demon encounters are liars. BUT I do believe that some people that have been abducted, aren't liars. But I, sometimes, can't believe that aliens are that bad. If they wanted to go for people why not the people that are higher up? Why go for the people that seem already crazy, and to just make them crazier? It just doesn't make any sense to me. (I never meant to make it look like I didn't believe them. Because that isn't true. Some accounts I can believe in...Some are just so out there...Its messed up. I honestly do believe some people who claimed to be "probed" are lying about it to get attention. But I do believe in the fact that some people have been, lets face it, beamed up.)

Seeing isn't believing, believing is seeing.

We have to believe in it first, before seeing. If we don't believe, then what are we seeing? What people are telling us that we are seeing? Or do we have the mind power or will power to actually believe that we aren't the only beings out there. There are dozens over other planets, and people are telling me there are NO lifeforms there. Come on. Why make all those planets if only one planet is to have lifeforms on there? Do I believe that we have Aliens on this planet? Yes, I do. Do I believe that they walk among us without us knowing? Yes I do. Do I believe that in Nevada there is a secret base? Yes I do. Its not conspiracies. Its whether or not we believe in them.

And yes, some people who get probed, are people who want attention. But some, are very legit of their encounters. Just I want to ask...How do we not know that the person living next door to us is an alien? Their space crafts have to be coming here for a reason, and I doubt its to have tea with Bob down the street. I honestly believe they come here to observe and NOT in:

"I am going to see what these moronic lifeforms have to offer, then kill them."

No, I believe they are here to understand us, and why we are the way we are. And I will always believe they walk among us. And they maybe, just maybe they are disguised as us, as well.

[Selly_2009]

But it seems that planets are very common indeed, so perhaps habitable planets will prove to be common.Astronomers have already found at least one planet in the "habitable" belt - ie with possible temperatures comparable to Earth. Yes, it's much closer to it's sun, but the sun itself is a lot cooler than ours.

With that knowledge already, there's a decent chance that others will be found. Maybe we'll find life of some description on one of them, even if it's very different to life as we know it. But then the same can be said for life at the bottom of our oceans! :lol:

As for other phenomena, I'm sceptical about vampires (in human form) or werewolves, but that doesn't mean they're not out there somewhere. Ghosts, why shouldn't they exist? I'm not going to discount the possibility.
Monsters such as Loch Ness, Bigfoot, Surrey Puma? I still say I saw SOMETHING on the egde of our school field during a maths lesson when I was 10. Obviously I can't prove it but for the distance it was too big for a domestic cat, but didn't look like a dog, and it was definitely black (well, dark anyway).

[opiumgirl]

Seeing isn't believing, believing is seeing.

We have to believe in it first, before seeing. If we don't believe, then what are we seeing?

This sounds to me like what you are describing here is World as Myth, a concept in the books of Robert Heinlein. Basically what it comes down to is that our collective creativity spawns real worlds and people/creatures. Do I have it right?

Do I believe that they walk among us without us knowing? Yes I do. Do I believe that in Nevada there is a secret base? Yes I do. Its not conspiracies. Its whether or not we believe in them.

I find it very strange that you would believe this and not accounts of people being abducted or "probed". Why not?

No, I believe they are here to understand us, and why we are the way we are. And I will always believe they walk among us. And they maybe, just maybe they are disguised as us, as well.

I also don't think that they are observing us to learn from us, frankly I think they are seeing how many millennia it would take to take Earth off the uninhabited/dangerous list, before they let us hang out in their space-bars. :lol:

[SimsLover50]

I think that it is best to observe and study phenomenon scientifically before they should categorized or proven to be true. A lot of superstition can be harmful, (the fear that albinism makes you a witch for example in certain countries) and so far there hasn't been a lot of evidence to prove the existance of many things people fear. So for me- debunking harmful myths is not only a good act, but important.

With alien abduction, there are many theories, including various psychological conditions which can lead to a feeling of immobility, etc. out of body experiences.

I do believe there are aliens out there. And it is entirely possible people have ben abducted. However, so far, there isn't a lot of scientific evidence to support it, beyond the person's own account.

When I was studying alien aabduction, I found it interesting that the myths of aliens abductiong people are quite similar to the myths of people being abducted by fairies that people used to be afraid happened. It is clear that it is a common fear that people will be taken somewhere else, by some unknwon force, and hurt/harmed. This feeling of being helpless is quite terrifying and clearly a concern people have had through the ages. I think alien abduction is just this century's fae abductions but with a science twist. Remember after that radio serial went on radio about HG wells, and hundreds of people then saw UFOS and there was quite a bit of hysteria? People can be a bit suggestable.

While I do not doubt there are people who believe they are abducted, whether this has really happened or not, can't be proven yet either way.

In either case, I find the subject of alien abduction interesting, nonetheless.

[VerDeTerre]

Seeing isn't believing, believing is seeing.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I've said something similar: You see what you believe. If someone is not open to the possibilities, he may miss the evidence or deny it because it doesn't fit what he believes is possible.

Just ask Dewitt Jones, a photographer for National Geographic who expressed that if he had not been open to the possibilities and believed there was something to be captured on every assignment, he would have missed it.

A mindset is just that, a set mind. Structure is useful for providing framework but limiting when it becomes like a jail cell.

[Tempscire]

And yes, some people who get probed, are people who want attention. But some, are very legit of their encounters.
How do you distinguish between those who are lying and those with legit experiences? Especially when (I'm assuming) you don't have personal contact with most of them to know their characters and histories.

If they wanted to go for people why not the people that are higher up? Why go for the people that seem already crazy, and to just make them crazier? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, if part of their mysterious plan is to remain a secret, it makes sense to go after those who wouldn't be taken seriously anyway. Someone higher up might, if interviewed, give more useful information about society and be a more meritorious representative of humanity, but they also could potentially have the ability to draw more serious attention to the aliens. (And if biology is all that's under study, a blue-collar chap is as good as a white-collar one for the basics.) Go for the undesirables and remain unnoticed, like a serial killer targeting prostitutes and the homeless. (Or they're terrible anthropologists and are projecting their own society's standards onto ours and somehow believing they are getting the higher-ups.)

How do we not know that the person living next door to us is an alien?
We could also wonder how do we know the person living next door to us exists at all and if we're actually just brains-in-jars receiving the right electrochemical stimuli to fabricate a more tangible existence. Or, more philosophically, how do we know the next door neighbor actually thinks and feels and is sentient the way we ourselves are (or consider ourselves to be)? Compared to that, alien or not is easy. Bleed red? Go to a regular doctor? Contracts regular colds and viruses in a regular way? (If you could somehow swing it: does a sample of their blood come back showing all the normal human biological markers and DNA?) If yes, then probably not an alien.

I honestly believe they come here to observe and NOT in:
"I am going to see what these moronic lifeforms have to offer, then kill them."

No, I believe they are here to understand us, and why we are the way we are.
I'm reminded of a couple lines from Contact, can't remember if they were in the book or the movie or both. Dr. Arroway is arguing against the malevolence of the aliens' intentions, saying something like, "It'd be like us going out of our way to nuke an anthill in Africa." To which a more wary person replies, "But how bad would we feel about nuking that anthill?"

Anyway, unless you're also willing to state that you believe you have definitely met an alien being, conversed with them, learned of their ET status, and could be sure they weren't lying to placate you, how would you know what their motivations could possibly be? Could be good, could be bad. Could be they think they're doing something good for us when they're actually killing us all slowly, or vice versa.

Even if it were just one species visiting us, we could assume that if they're humanoid enough for us to have compatible interpretations of their motivations, they're humanoid enough that surely they hold a mix of opinions of their own, the war-mongers and the peaceniks, the adventurous and the xenophobic. Perhaps some were sent here to be friendly but have actually been hatching a coup to overthrow their own leader and proceed to conquer Earth instead. If there's more than one species out there and down here, it becomes more likely that there is a mix of motivations and intentions at work. We simply have no way of knowing.

ETA: I know you were speaking in terms of belief rather than knowledge, but it seems reasonable to consider alternatives, just as you suggest considering ghosts/aliens/werewolves/etc as alternatives to a flat "nonexistent" suggestion.

And a passing thought: how big are other countries on alien conspiracies and visitations? In the US there's the whole Roswell-Area 51-crop circle mythos, even if it's not taken as anything more than tabloid fodder on average, but what of other places?

[Yazoo]

*slams head down* Once again it looks like I will be the only one who once again has to defend their opinion.

Listen, the way you can tell if someone is lying and being legit, watch their posture, their focus. EVEN on Television, you can tell. They way they look at the reporter, are they looking directly at them or are they letting their eyes wonder? Do they seem to be talking with somewhat of a nervous tone, or can you tell that they are nervous? Its not that hard, people. Alright. When I was growing up, I watched this TV show, and I told my mom, that the guy was lying. She asked how could I tell? And I said look how he is acting, his body posture, he is acting all cool, his voice when certain questions are asked, it sounds nervous. And two minutes later, they caught him lying. Some of the freaking population wants attention. Look at that woman that claimed she had a baby with Beiber! People that want attention, you can tell when they want it. And I do believe that some people are the type that would say:

"An Alien probed me!"

Just to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Everyone sees the wold in a different light, and depicts the world differently. In my eyes, yes, somethings can be sorted as a conspiracy. Alright, follow with me on this. I do believe that the population on Earth do not believe in anything that they can't see. Alright, there is some, let me repeat myself SOME, that actually believe in the following:

Heaven

Hell

Life After Death

Ghosts

U.F.Os

God

Lucifer (Satan)

Angels

Demons

Extraterrestrials (Aliens)

The rest, I don't know. Maybe they don't want to believe it because there is NO facts, or they have never sighted it themselves. I was a non-believer once as well. I didn't believe in that codswallop. I couldn't, because I didn't have facts, then one day, I was sitting on my bed alone in my dorm, and I saw a woman. And she was ghost, a spirit, an apparition. Bottom line of it all, yes, for some reason, to believe you must have to see it. But if you don't believe in it, will you even see it? No, because you will think whatever you are seeing can't be defined as real.

Nevertheless, people choose to believe in what they want too, and believe in what they don't. Some believe in Heaven, yet, not a Hell. People believe in Life After Death, but not Ghosts. Who are we to say, that those ghosts got trapped on Earth to do something? Something that needs to be done before they go to their final resting place?! Who are we to say, that Aliens come here, to learn our ways? Maybe we are not...Then intelligent lifeforms in the galaxy, what if it is aliens? I mean hell, they have a freaking U.F.O that beam people up, they have this amazing intelligence, that if we put all the smartest people together...We probably would only be 1/8 of their brain capabilities. We do not know that. None of us do.

We all believe in different things, and we all different views. That is the bottom line, I do believe in the following:

Vampires

Werewolves

Ghosts, Spirits, Entities, Apparition

Extraterrestrials

U.F.Os

Bigfoot (sometimes, there is a lot of hype about them)

Demons

Angels

Heaven

Hell

God

Satan (Lucifer)



Final thought.

Just because we can't see them, does not mean they are not there.

[simsample]

Just because we can't see them, does not mean they are not there.
And just because someone believes them, it doesn't mean that they ARE there.

[Yazoo]

Yes that is very true. And I agree with the statement simsample, I do.

[Tempscire]

*slams head down* Once again it looks like I will be the only one who once again has to defend their opinion.
You're the one saying the most exotic things most regularly. :)

[Yazoo]

I only say those things, because I believe in them, exotic or not. I will stick behind my ideals, and the way I perceive the world. I do believe in everything I just mentioned, and will continue to do so. Just because people disagree with me, doesn't mean that they have to try and cast me away from what I believe in.

[VerDeTerre]

I only say those things, because I believe in them, exotic or not. I will stick behind my ideals, and the way I perceive the world. I do believe in everything I just mentioned, and will continue to do so. Just because people disagree with me, doesn't mean that they have to try and cast me away from what I believe in.

You're right Nevermore. You never presented this thread as a debate so you shouldn't have to defend your beliefs nor have them challenged. None of us should have to.

It's just interesting to see how differently we all perceive our world and think about it. Sharing different perspectives can give us new things to chew on.

[DigitalSympathies]

Having lived all over the world, I've seen a lot of different "cultures of thought" that arise around this issue. I will stand firm that I believe the paranormal does exist, in the form of spirits. Aliens? Sure, there is a chance, I don't see why not. As with anything, there is that chance. That's about all I believe in though, besides dream reading and astrology which is just casual.

[Tempscire]

I only say those things, because I believe in them, exotic or not. I will stick behind my ideals, and the way I perceive the world. I do believe in everything I just mentioned, and will continue to do so. Just because people disagree with me, doesn't mean that they have to try and cast me away from what I believe in.
I know, which is why it's more interesting to discuss with you. I'm sorry you felt picked on. I have a hard time not turning things into debates sometimes, even though I don't mean anything by it. It's just...intellectual exploration to me.

As a peace offering, I'll share one of my stories I don't have a good explanation for. :) Back in the apartment I lived in during my undergrad, I had one strange experience one night. I'd fallen asleep after getting home from class and didn't wake up until after it had gotten dark. As I was lying there getting reoriented (because it always throws me off if I miss sunset), I heard this plinking sound. Plink! ...Plink!...Plink! Like something metallic tapping against a hard surface. I wondered about it, then dismissed it. After some small amount of time passing, there was suddenly a much louder PLINK, like something being dropped instead of tapped.

Well, that freaked me out, but a quick glance around didn't show anything amiss so I again dismissed it. It wasn't until I was going to the kitchen to get a drink that I noticed a keychain charm I'd left on my TV stand was on the floor with a Ziploc baggy of dryer sheets I'd left in the same place. I picked it up and gave it an experimental drop and it sounded exactly like the PLINK I'd heard earlier. I'd had a ceiling fan on, but that'd hardly be enough to dislodge the items. I'd never seen, say, mice or anything like that in the apartment. So how did the keychain come to be tap-tap-tapped and knocked to the floor? Anyway, I didn't get much sleep that night. :lol:

[SimsLover50]

I tend to like to discuss and debate my own and other people's viewpoints and philosophy, as this is how I learn and form opinions. I didn't realize this was not what you were looking for. =-) I apologize if I have challenged you in anyway Raven or made you feel pressured/bad. You seem like a nice person.

[Yazoo]

Its not your fault SimsLover 50, nor yours Tempscrice, its mine. I take too many things to the heart, and I don't know to stop. I've tried, but I'm the type of person that people are saying things behind my back, or look at me and think awful things about me. And that's because how I was treated. And now I take things WAY to personally.

I do appreciate the apologies, but it is me who needs to be apologizing.

I am sorry, truthfully, I need to learn not to take so many things to heart. Once again, I'm sorry.

[sundance93]

I absolutely believe in the paranormal! However, I only call it 'paranormal' in speech because that's what most people call it. For me, it is not PARAnormal. It is quite normal. Perhaps science cannot yet explain it, but it is undoubtedly there.

Personally, I have not yet had a lot of experiences with 'paranormal' happenings. I've had a few, but nothing particularly mind-boggling.

Ghosts
I would love to have more experiences in this field, however I have only had one that I can recollect as being undoubtedly being the work of a ghost. I'll lay down a better understanding, and then I'll explain the situation:

Ouija Boards, I do not count as paranormal to me because Ouija Boards have been used for many years to communicate both with the subconscious mind and with spirits/demons etc...
On numerous occasions, I used a Ouija Board to speak with what I soon began to consider our house-ghost. Her name is Des.

This is a really weak example of paranormal activity, but a true one:
Once after school I was watching TV. At the time, I was the only person that was supposed to be in the house, and I forgot to lock the door when I got home. As I was watching TV, I distinctly heard the bolt turn and lock from over where the door was, and when I went to see what had happened, it was locked. It was a very small incident, but it happened, and it was interesting.

UFO's
The term 'UFO' is very over-used today. UFO literally stands for Unidentified Flying Object. So in all essence, a UFO could be a bird that you can't quite distinguish as a bird. A kite so high you can't tell what it is. A witch floating o'er-head. Or what it is usually used for, an alien space-craft. Then you have another common mis-interpretation which is that UFO also means aliens... I still haven't figured out where people get that idea. Anyway!

I myself have seen a few UFO's by literal definition. I did not know what they were, and I still don't. The most intriguing, however, have been lights in the sky (of course). Now most people would retort to 'Lights in the Sky' with "Well the only lights you could have possibly seen were either stars, meteors or aero-planes." However, when I say lights in the sky, I mean things that looked like:

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa377/wbeam93/ZUFO001.jpg

Even my dad was a bit baffled at what we were looking at, and he's usually one to have his head on straight about things in the sky. He's also quite closed to the idea of the paranormal, and yet even he offered no answer when my who family saw them. It was kind of reassuring for me, because I'm usually "the weïrdo who actually believes in that stuff."

Cryptids
I've not yet had the pleasure of meeting one! However, I would highly enjoy it! Beings that can evade the majority of Human-Kind for hundreds of years must be doing SOMETHING right! And should we find any one of them, it would help restore so much validity to ancient stories and legends. I mean, when you think about it, we discover hundreds of new creatures every year!! And it's very likely that will continue to discover more and more. I believe that we will never truly stop discovering new beings.

But now I move beyond things we consider 'paranormal' and redirect to things of lore and legend.

As someone who is very interested in Lore and Legend, I like to believe that many of the beings and people of old lore and legend were in fact true beings. I like to believe that Færies, Gnomes, Ogres and Elves are real or once were. However, it is hard to say. One could easily say that believing in Færies is just like believing that Vampyres really DO sparkle in the sun! (*cough* such a dumb idea *cough* what a rip-off *cough*).
!!! - I do believe in vampyres of varying types, however I must here admit that the Twilight Saga's portrayal of vampyres is by far the most laughable interpretation of vampyrism yet. Honestly she shouldn't have even called them vampyres in my opinion... but moving on!!!

I do believe in Vampyrism and the state of being a Werewolf, however I believe them in different lights than fiction.

For Vampyres, there are modern-day vampyres who are energy workers. These vampyres take the energy of their prey through conscious manipulation of energy.
There are also modern day "vampyres" who go very much so with the old idea of vampyrism, the difference being that they're not dead. They bite and draw blood and drink of others. However, they do it as more of a way to achieve sexual pleasure. Why? I don't know... but they do. And their life is theirs. I say let them have cake.

The state of being a Werewolf has many faces.
The historical, fictional belief of Werewolves is more a fictional one, but if true it probably comes more from the stories of Shape-Shifters, those who change shape at will. Generally, shape-shifters were witches and wizards in Europe or Shamans and priests/priestesses of voodoo, hoodoo and other African religions.
The other form of being a Werewolf comes from madness. It is a psychological state-of-mind that some people enter when they've gone crazy. It is more like a primal instinct. They will escape to nearby woodlands or other places and begin a regression to a very primal state of being. If not found and taken care of soon, they will obviously let their hair grow out and themore they live as though wild, the more rugged they become. The longer they are exposed to the wild, the more animalesque they become and if given enough time, they will completely forget their past existence.

I don't know as I believe in Zombies... or the dead beyond their graves... however I do believe it is possible to make a Composite Human (like Frankenstein's monster) or technically a Composite Anything... and with that, I also believe it is possible to create a Homonculous. The problem with the creation of a Homunculous that drives people away is a very difficult decision. I believe those who have attempted to create a homunculous in the past have turned away when they realized the cost it would take on their life.
A homunculous, like any other being, requires a soul. With that, I believe it is the duty of the creator to split his or her soul into two and give half of his soul to the homunculous. This, in turn, binds them for they share a core. However, it will also weaken the creator for a time. As to whether the weakness is permanent or not, I cannot say... however, it is inevitable.
The other option would be to create a replica soul... to copy/mimic/mirror your soul to place into the homunculous.
In my opinion, our souls are infinite... so if we were to split them, there would still be plenty left behind... but what do we sacrifice? What [arts of us do we give to the homunculous? And what parts do we keep inside ourselves? It is a very difficult things to decide.
The other important question raised is how?
Also, this fact of soul-splitting or soul-copying is what is used for the creation of a composite-being as well.

I also believe that the great city of Atlantis did once stand on this Earth. What happened to it? Where is it? And why isn't it here any longer is a huge question that we won't be able to answer for a long time. However, I speculate that it lies at the bottom of the Bermuda Triangle. Allow me to back that up a little:
In many accounts of Atlantis, there is a huge emphasis on the idea of the use of Crystals. It is stated by many people and in may sources that Atlantis has a lot to do with crystals and the energy that comes from them.
With that, we know that Crystals have the ability to create immense amounts of energy, especially magnetic energy. And even further, scientists of today are actually speculating that there is a gigantic crystal in the depths of the Bermuda Triangle. Their speculation has nothing to do with the fact of the magnetic disruptions there, but when you put the pieces together you have



Scientists speculate giant crystal in Bermuda
+
Magnetic disruptions in Bermuda possibly linked to giant Crystal
=
Probably a giant crystal in the Bermuda Triangle


Atlantis is said to have used Crystals for many things
=
They probably had a giant crystal


Atlantis probably had a giant Crystal
+
Bermuda Triangle probably has a giant Crystal at the bottom
=
Atlantis very well may be in Bermuda Triangle

-But this is complete speculation and oddness, of course.

Also, as far as Atlantis goes... I don't like the fact that many scientists study only the surface of the Ocean floor in search of Atlantis... it is very possible that it is under the surface, and that fact is completely looked over.

There are so very many things I've studied in the past... and still study today.
However the last things I have to mention really is Witches, Wizards, Shamans etc.... some people seem to think that they are only people of Fantasy and Fable... well... they're not! They're real people. They're all around. Chances are you have a Magick Practitioner in your very own town/city.

[SimsLover50]

My mother has had several paranomral experiences. In one case, she and my dad, moved into a penthouse home, which was surprisingly affordable before I was born. She was not rich, and was surprised the apartment was so cheap. There was one room that had a stained carpet.. The children would not play or like his room. She also found long gold hairs in the carpet.

Sometime after moving into the penthouse, a police detective stopped by and asked her if she'd found anything strange or unusual since she moved in, because the previous tenant- a lady had been killed there in that room

While not exactly a ghost, somewhat.. An aura was felt there. Something was clearly not right in that room.

[Lawli-Lawli]

I mean, why not?
With all the planets in all the universes, why can't there be other forms of existences?

....I just don't wanna see any of them,though- I'd crap myself. :help:

[Riptide651]

There's the evil monkey in Chris's closet (Giggedy)

[KKiryu007Joker]

The aliens, you can't get them so they're uh, not well..... sorry to burst the bubble, uh not not not not real. So we have the know sightings of that one thing that Saint, yeah. And we have all this little faked UFOs business. And then the ghosts. And then we have these people. Who's the scarier and more unknown thing, really: you have all these little ghosts and stuff that can't be proven, and then you have Hitler who murdered somewhere around 6 million Jewish people. Do you need anymore proof that people are scarier? They're here, and somewhere out there some pink fungus is clinging to a different planet.

[opiumgirl]

The aliens, you can't get them so they're uh, not well..... sorry to burst the bubble, uh not not not not real. So we have the know sightings of that one thing that Saint, yeah. And we have all this little faked UFOs business. And then the ghosts. And then we have these people. Who's the scarier and more unknown thing, really: you have all these little ghosts and stuff that can't be proven, and then you have Hitler who murdered somewhere around 6 million Jewish people. Do you need anymore proof that people are scarier? They're here, and somewhere out there some pink fungus is clinging to a different planet.
I think the original question was whether we believe in the paranormal, not whether we find it scary.
Comparing the holocaust to a UFO sighting makes no sense.
Sure people are scared of the unknown, it might even be a enjoyable and harmless experience.
Nothing about the holocaust was enjoyable or harmless and I think most people are horrified that such a thing happened.

[Yazoo]

I think the original question was whether we believe in the paranormal, not whether we find it scary.
Comparing the holocaust to a UFO sighting makes no sense.
Sure people are scared of the unknown, it might even be a enjoyable and harmless experience.
Nothing about the holocaust was enjoyable or harmless and I think most people are horrified that such a thing happened.

Yes, I agree with you, opiumgirl. However, there are people that do believe that the Holocaust never happened. In fact, in History books these days, there is only what a paragraph on the Holocaust. When I was in high school, our teacher made us shut our History book, and we did watch Schindler's List, and the Diary of Anne Frank. The Holocaust did happen.

And that right there is a fact. Hitler did kill a lot of Jewish people, even if himself, was a Jew.

Now back to the topic. Most will and most will not believe that Aliens do or do not exist. Some will argue that there is no such thing as another being living on another planet. But in my eyes. There is. Why would in the world, would Earth be the ONLY planet with life, and other planets becoming nothing with not a life form about? That makes no sense to me. We can't be the only ones out there. And I highly doubt Aliens are "scary". Are they misinterpreted in the line of media? Oh yeah, they are depicted as these ugly, and harmful creatures. But we do not know that for a fact. I don't believe they are that way. And I do believe they are out there.

[sundance93]

...in my eyes. There is. Why would in the world, would Earth be the ONLY planet with life, and other planets becoming nothing with not a life form about? That makes no sense to me. We can't be the only ones out there. And I highly doubt Aliens are "scary". Are they misinterpreted in the line of media? Oh yeah, they are depicted as these ugly, and harmful creatures. But we do not know that for a fact. I don't believe they are that way. And I do believe they are out there.

I mainly agree with you. I think, however, that there are both good and bad. For all we know, there might not even be beings with any resemblance to us. Perhaps there is only microbial organisms on other planets. Or maybe "life" is actually conscious masses of energy. Even here on our own planet there are other life-forms we don't yet recognize because they lack a cellular structure.
Also, if there is other life (which there almost has to be), it might not even be anywhere we know of. It could be in another galaxy we've yet to see. Or maybe in another "field" that we CANNOT see. Ancient tales tell of beings on other plains of reality that we don't fully comprehend. So who's to say that there's not another universe directly beside our own? A universe with both good and bad creatures? Just as Earth creatures are good and bad...

[morphius1]

Everyone has a right to their own beliefs.
That said, I cannot believe that we are the only life in this universe. No way.
But I don't believe in three headed aliens and monsters in space. I believe that there are others like us, only far more advanced than we are. I also belive that they have visited earth in the past and do visit now in the present. (Anyone here ever watch the show "Ancient Aliens"? Great show if you are into this sort of stuff.) And I would love to meet them one day...or better yet, be able to go to them.
Ghosts I don't belive in. I believe in "spirits", though. Two different entities...in my opinion.

[bassoon_crazy]

I don't believe in anything paranormal - No Gods/Goddesses, ghosts, werewolves, etc.

Aliens, though, I wouldn't call 'paranormal'. Logically, they pretty much have to exist. The universe is huge, and we, with our incredibly limited view of the universe, have already discovered solid planets within the life-sustaining ranges of their solar systems. Life on planets can only happen in incredibly rare situations, but the universe is also so large that it just has to exist somewhere else.

I don't believe they have contacted Earth, though. That's a 'paranormal' claim, one that has to be proven by the one claiming it for me to even begin to take it seriously. None of the "evidence" I have seen has been all of that convincing.

[DigitalSympathies]

I should probably but this out there too that I believe in reincarnation. I forgot to add it to my original post, but I believe in past lives and everything :3 I want to see a hypnotist like my friend's mother did a long time ago to see what I can uncover.

[aSimmersLife]

I believe in ghosts mainly because of personal experiences I had when I would stay at my grandparents' home, which was a very old house with a lot of history.

I've always believed in spirits/entities and that there are others here with us that we can't see with the naked eye or sense in other ways, unless they want us to -- like a strong perfume, cologne, or other aromatic smell coming out of nowhere when the windows and doors are all closed.

[SuicidiaParasidia]

I think the original question was whether we believe in the paranormal, not whether we find it scary.
Comparing the holocaust to a UFO sighting makes no sense.
Sure people are scared of the unknown, it might even be a enjoyable and harmless experience.
Nothing about the holocaust was enjoyable or harmless and I think most people are horrified that such a thing happened.

not when it doesn't come with an "off" switch.
horror you can walk away from is great. horror you live around every day, not so great.

my personal input on the actual topic: everything that is and isnt comes down to energy. everything is energy. energy can take, literally, any form. thus, cant anything be truly possible? regardless of our personal abilities to conceive of it.
i find it very amusing that a race that hasnt even fully explored its own planet thinks it knows all of what may lurk in its shadows. i, personally, have never seen a deep-sea jellyfish. for all i know, they could be a widespread myth that someone made up just to be punk people.
but i have seen a multitude of other things that makes me hesitant to open my mouth at the behest of not appearing as a madman to others (though im pretty sure ive already failed miserably at that, here on MTS).

[Obey]

I don't believe in all that stuff until i see it. Simple.

[Saturnfly]

Nope, don't believe it. Don't believe aliens have visited Earth, either. But I do believe aliens exist. :3 Ghosts and stuff, though? Noo way. Same with god.

[Shoosh Malooka]

I've never seen any strange spirits, demons, or boogeymen in my life, in spite of paranoid schizophrenia. Yet many of the pastors at my ( seventh day adventist ) church have these wild claims to have witnessed these things. One of them, we'll call him pastor bedtime, swears that the devil visited him in the form of dark smoke but was scared off. I'm sure it was your inordinate level of goodness that did it, pastor Sterling ( that's his first name ). Other sda pastors go the for the druggie stories, which outline how they infiltrated deep into the world of drugs and entered the spirit world through being high and mingled with demons, only to triumph over it after some enlightening event or epiphany. That way, God saved them but they are still heroes. Most of them at vespers eat it up without questioning. Not that I'm saying that these things are absolutely false, but come on. It's all in the interpretation their ego chose to make, especially when a future pastor has been 'experimenting.' Why would the devil be after you, when he is already after you and everyone else? Why doesn't satan visit me and tempt me by offering all the Sims 3 expansions?

[Ilosia]

I have had no encounters but I do believe there are other "things" out there.
If we can breathe on earth, fish can breathe under water, then why can't anything breathe out in space?

Also, I believe ghosts are just spirits who can't find the other side.

[opiumgirl]

not when it doesn't come with an "off" switch.
horror you can walk away from is great. horror you live around every day, not so great.

my personal input on the actual topic: everything that is and isnt comes down to energy. everything is energy. energy can take, literally, any form. thus, cant anything be truly possible? regardless of our personal abilities to conceive of it.
i find it very amusing that a race that hasnt even fully explored its own planet thinks it knows all of what may lurk in its shadows. i, personally, have never seen a deep-sea jellyfish. for all i know, they could be a widespread myth that someone made up just to be punk people.
but i have seen a multitude of other things that makes me hesitant to open my mouth at the behest of not appearing as a madman to others (though im pretty sure ive already failed miserably at that, here on MTS).

I have nothing to add. but I agree with you 100%

[SuicidiaParasidia]

I don't believe in all that stuff until i see it. Simple.

i have to ask.

do you believe in oxygen? or UV rays? what about bacteria, and viruses?

[VerDeTerre]

i have to ask.

do you believe in oxygen? or UV rays? what about bacteria, and viruses?

No! No! NO NO NO! It's all part of a conspiracy! :help:

[Shoosh Malooka]

No, I don't have to actually SEE it, but have it presented to me or passed on to me from a credible source... like a respected news station. Or an expert who studied to earn their position and has years of experience in the field. I'm pretty sure that I can trust my dermatologist that that tiny blotch on my arm isn't advanced skin cancer like I want to believe it is. If they have real expertise, are impartial and unbiased, have a reputation or ethic to not spread untrue information, and are not trying to sell me a product or belief.

[sundance93]

I DO believe in the paranormal :P What I don't believe is that in the almost two months that I've been away, this thread is still popular :P haha

[SommarBlomma]

I don't believe that such thing as "paranormal" exists. What is pranormal? - It is sometnig that can't be scientifically explained. There can be strange things, rare and unusual phenomena that modern science can't explain, but they'll most likely de studied, researced in future, and will turn out to be absolutely logical. If something exists, it is "normal", but sometimes we, people, can't realize what it is and how it works.
And, most of stories about "paranormal" - ghosts, aliens, curses, magic, etc. are, well, just stories. They're fun, really. but no reasons for me to believe in them.

[ButchSims]

Why doesn't satan visit me and tempt me by offering all the Sims 3 expansions? He already has, he's just not that good at it. I can't think of any other reason for Sweet Treats.

[SuicidiaParasidia]

No, I don't have to actually SEE it, but have it presented to me or passed on to me from a credible source... like a respected news station. Or an expert who studied to earn their position and has years of experience in the field. I'm pretty sure that I can trust my dermatologist that that tiny blotch on my arm isn't advanced skin cancer like I want to believe it is. If they have real expertise, are impartial and unbiased, have a reputation or ethic to not spread untrue information, and are not trying to sell me a product or belief.

are you sure about that...? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI)

[treeag]

I don't really believe in aliens. Advanced/humanoid aliens that is. They might exist, but I think they'd be more like animals in terms of intelligence and behavior and maybe not even sentient. I don't know why I think so, I just do. Cryptozoology however intrigues me. I could spend hours reading about it. Nessie, bigfoot, dragons, and to a lesser extent, chupacabra, thunderbirds, mokele-mbembe, things like that. I don't believe in reptilians, shadow people, and all that stuff though, I think it's just optical illusions or maybe hallucinations, or if you see them a lot it might be a symptom schizophrenia.

[Gcgb53191]

I'm not sure if I really believe in the paranormal. Sometimes I want to and sometimes I dont. I want to because its sort of fun to scare yourself (like going to Halloween houses) and the reason I don't is because I would be in fear that my mother's ghost would haunt me since we have her ashes here at home lol. I also don't really believe in it because my dad isn't a believer so I've always grown up with that mentality.

[AshMart10]

When I was 5, it all began. I remember seeing a boy, who could have been my older brother by a year. I saw a dog, who once belonged to me. And I see my papa's sister. I only see these people,(and Animal), because, I was close to them in some sort of way.

First Encounter
I was atleast 5 by this time, I had a dog named Buzz. He was small, sweet and kind. But one day, we had left the gate open. He escaped. So I remember walking to the bus, I would see him, he would run, trying to catch up with the bus I would say " Go home Buzz", and no knew who I was talking to. I also still see him. He walks up and down the road alone. R.I.P Buzz Lightyear :cry:

Second Encounter
I remember seeing a little boy, whom we called Baby Martin. My mother had a miss - carriage with a baby boy before I came into this world. I can feel a chill when I graduated 5th grade, I felt a 12 year old, walk me up to recieve my award. I could tell he was happy, I miss him with all of my heart. We have that sibling connection, like no one else does.
R.I.P Baby Martin :(

Third Encounter
This happened a week ago, I was staying the night at my nana's house. I was being foolish, I stayed up trying to watch TV. Then 30 min. later, I saw a globe, go down the stairs, followed by slow, tender steps heard, and shadows. This must've been my Great Aunt, Martha. She was murdered, In front of my nana's house. So she now can be seen there. I know she would be a spirit, she was described by her brother, my papa, to be nice, loyal and kind. I will remember her , R.I.P Martha Claypool. :blink:

This is how I learned , the truth in my own eyes, Parananormal activity, Is a real thing, it only takes the right person to see it. ;)

[Yazoo]

Some choose to see what is out there, and others choose not to see it. Due the fact, if others can't see it, nor can them. Then its not real at all. But that isn't true. If all assumed that things we can not see, is not real. Then we would be rather stubborn.

We can't see wind, but we can feel it. Does that mean its not real? Does that mean what we feel is just something that our bodies are making up to make us feel something that is "not" there?

How are about air? We can't see air, so how are we living?

If we believe to see it, then maybe we will. I have had so many encounters, to believe that its there.

I will say this, I had another encounter just recently, actually.


I was in the bathroom, brushing my teeth. And when I looked up in the mirror, my towel moved as someone moved passed it, and ran their hand against it. And note now, there was no one in the house. Nor was the heater vent on. And there was no windows open.

[jthm_nny]

I believe in aliens, but not of the abduction kind. Aliens are probably some kind of bacteria or another microscopic organism. If they are more complex, they are either too complex to care or even live anymore, or they are too simple to make contact. So no, I don't believe in contacting intelligent life or the other way around, but I can't say for sure it'll never happen. One things for sure: The only alien on this planet is the dude from Ancient Alien's hair. It must speak to him. It is a form of intelligent life....or at least a form of lunatic life.
http://i.qkme.me/35m9u3.jpg

[Roseblossom90]

I have seen and experienced way too many things not to belive in ghosts. I believe my mother still visits my father as she was seen in the house ten years after her death. I believe the spirits of children are playing in the cemetery where my mother and brother are burried as I have heard them giggle and run though the leaves. I also believe that there is a spirit 'living' in my house since things get moved that couldn't possibly move on their own.

For instance, my husband put his cellphone on charge ever night and sets it on top of the radio. In the morning, his cellphone is on the floor. One night as he was putting his phone on charge I told him that we would see if it was there in the morning. If not, something strange was going on. To be honest, I was challenging whatever was moving it to move it again. Anyway, my husband and I headed for the bedroom. I was already in bed, my husband was changing his clothes. Then there was a loud bang in the hallway. When we looked, a large bottle of laundry detergent had came off the shelf and landed directly in the center of the washing machine. The bottle wasn't even knocked over or anything. Nor was there any way for it to fall off the shelf on its own as it sits at least an inch away from the edge.

This made me believe that all the things I have seen walking through the house that I told myself were halucinations (sp?) wasn't my mind playing tricks on me.

[TelezProductions]

I do believe in paranormal activity because it fascinates me to think that we could be talking to our ancient ancestors who lived years ago. I have seen a ghost in a experience I had on a residential trip.

[Rawra]

I believe in aliens, but not of the abduction kind. Aliens are probably some kind of bacteria or another microscopic organism. If they are more complex, they are either too complex to care or even live anymore, or they are too simple to make contact. So no, I don't believe in contacting intelligent life or the other way around, but I can't say for sure it'll never happen. One things for sure: The only alien on this planet is the dude from Ancient Alien's hair. It must speak to him. It is a form of intelligent life....or at least a form of lunatic life.


Wow, really? Too simple to make contact or some kind of bacteria? What if they live in another Solar System (which they do), or in a whole other galaxy (which they do, too)? Your statement implies that we are the only form of intelligent life there is in the whole Universe, and, if by chance, there is another form of life like us, they are 'too simple'? You've clearly never read SF books or seen SF movies. Also, the existence of other intelligent species doesn't necessarily mean that they will come to abduct us. How old are you exactly to believe that?

[VerDeTerre]

Wow, really? Too simple to make contact or some kind of bacteria? What if they live in another Solar System (which they do), or in a whole other galaxy (which they do, too)? Your statement implies that we are the only form of intelligent life there is in the whole Universe, and, if by chance, there is another form of life like us, they are 'too simple'? You've clearly never read SF books or seen SF movies. Also, the existence of other intelligent species doesn't necessarily mean that they will come to abduct us. How old are you exactly to believe that?

Her belief is what most scientists generally believe. I'm not sure why you would ask about the poster's age or why you would take exception to it. This is a thread for stating beliefs, after all.

[Rawra]

^The way she named them, 'the abduction kind' made me ask how old she is. It's such a simplistic way to put it.

[Gabrymato]

I consider paranormal and aliens on totally different points of view.

I don't believe in ghosts. It would be such a romantic thing to believe in, and I would truly love to, but I'm afraid there's no such thing in the real life.
I agree about the aliens though. The fact is that we consider life anything that grows and survives with oxygen. On other planets there could be organisms that could survive with other gases.
But I think we should consider the fact that what we call LIFE could not apply to another planet. Life with its birth, growth, reproduction and death could be a result of a series of coincidental events that brought us to become what we are now, but we don't know if that applies to the whole universe. Furthermore, we don't know the meaning of life, and as I said it could all be a product of coincidence.

This sh*t blows my mind everytime.

[crocobaura]

According to some theories we are the aliens.

[jthm_nny]

If alien invasions were real it would be reverse from all the Sci-fi books and movies. We really aren't a peaceful species. So yeah, we're the aliens. Or at least the type of aliens most people think of. Of course, I think most species will be horribly offended at such an intergalactic racial slur. No one wants to be called the "Al-" word. :lol:

[VerDeTerre]

According to some theories we are the aliens. I've heard this, too, or a version of it. I've heard that men were sprinkled in various areas. "Human" means "man of the soil", so I just say 'men'.

Since the idea of full-formed men arriving on earth to seed it conflicts with evolutionary theory, I don't quite believe it. If an alien invasion started the process of biological life out of inorganic elements way back in time, I might be able to buy into that one. There's a thought out there that it was because of a meteor bringing necessary elements to the newly formed planet, that macro molecules and amino acids formed and led to biological life.

[tretjess]

yes and so many more than i could tell in one sitting. just 5 days ago i video taped valid pass on the end of a brian key chain disappear the reappear. green light/nite.vision. many glowing orbs nightly. i reached out and touched one. it was real. i was with a friend. he saw it 2. it blue and white, looked like a floating spider web 5'by5' reflecting light under a street lamp about 330 in the morn. my hand pulled threw it and then it got real long and tall past the top of the light pole , thin like 3 inch wide and shot up disappearing leaving us in the dark staring up at the shy. i almost pooed myself. i can still feel it on my skin when i think about it.


i was once roaming around a old building with a few friends. at the top of a set of stairs was a window. the flight made a L and went of to the right down again a flight. at the bottom of the second flight was another window. when i looked out for a moment during day light hr, pondered and looked left and standing 10 foot away was a full body apparition looking out past me over the hillside. i darted after but it was gone.

i wear i scar under my neck from my childhood. it is 3 tears ,.

i lived in a house with a poltergeist. the building had police security cam watching the building. we would watch ghost walk the the halls and pass threw the walls. they would pass right in to our apartment rooms. watch us as we watched them. a team of paranormal investigators came too. the place was eerie.

this night we will probably see something with are night vision.

deadtretsociety.

[Sim-brother]

No, I don't believe in it until i've seen or or presented to me from a credible source anything ''paranormal'' that can't be explained by science or reason.

I do believe that there is life (in the broadest meaning of the word) on other planets, simply because the universe is to big for this not to be so, but I don't think that there has been any contact with extraterrestials in recorded history (though I have read a very interesting article about Sumerian creation myths, but I think such theories are still mere speculation). I wouldn't call the existence of aliens paranormal though, because they would still exist in the normal universe, and they would be living, tangible beings.

[kwazywabbit]

My partner says our flat is haunted. But I've never seen or heard anything to make me think she may be right. She says that it's a hunched over, old man, who occasionally wanders in and out of the kitchen and likes to hang out in our bathroom (bit disturbing that last part, the pervert!!:blink:) and generally scares the dickens out of her.
What I can't quite work out though is, a) our flat is up on the third floor, b) The block we live in is fairly new, built in the last 5 years,
So wtf is this dead dude doing in our flat? :wtf:

[armyangel93]

I used to believe in ghosts and demons and whatnot but I've grown up since then. I'd give a lot to know there was an afterlife, now.

[Roseblossom90]

Since my last post about our 'room mate' telling me to do the laundry by slamming the laundry detergent onto the washer, there have been many more experiences.

For one, whatever, or whoever it is does not like our napkin holder. Three times it has randomly been knocked off the table with no explanation, the napkins going everywhere.
Second, I was in the bathroom one day getting ready to go to town. I was braiding my hair in front of the mirror when the baby bath tub that was hanging on the shower rod flew across the room onto the counter, knocking everything onto the floor and nearly hitting me.
A third experience was a storage container that was sitting on a set of drawers in our kitchen randomly flew off and hit my husband who was sitting on the couch in the living room.
Lastly, my husband and I had just went to bed one night when there was a loud bang in the hallway. My husband went to the bedroom door to see what it was. Well, there is a set of shelves in the corner of the hallway. On the top shelf was a blue bowl with a lid on it and a bottle sterilizer on top of that. The lid had been taken off the bowl and the lid as well as the sterilizer was lying in the floor a foot away from the shelf.

I am not afraid of whatever or whoever this is, I just wish they would help clean up for once instead of making a mess.

[252xzeavneo]

I do believe but only with ghosts, angels, what happens on the other side, some orbs. I could go into more detail but it would take forever to write.

[smellincoffee]

I consider myself a devout skeptic. While I'm open to the possibility of alien life, I doubt very much any of it has ever visited Earth. As for supernatural things -- no. No ghosts, no astrology, nothing of the sort. The natural world is quite wondrous and inexplicable enough. I'm certain that many remarkable experiences lie in the amazing ability of the brain to completely screw with us.

[McChoclatey]

I "sort-of" believed in them when I was younger. But then again, I was like 10, and had an imaginary friend named Pickles. But anyway, as soon as me and my family had moved into our new apartment, I could've sworn I could see dark figures pass by in the corner of my eye. And always at night, and past my door frame. Sometimes I'd hear voices at night and think it was my mother or brother calling me only to leave them confused when they said they didn't call me over for anything. I also always felt paranoid sleeping on one side of the bed; you have no idea how uncomfortable it is to sleep with your back to the door and your face to the wall. I always had the thought that anyone could grab me, more frighteningly, someone who I didn't know.

I don't believe in the paranormal now, but I do believe in odd things happening that you can't explain.