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[OUTDATED] Changing Lot size after building and/or playing (Archived)

by Andi8104 Posted 19th Jul 2006 at 3:03 PM - Updated 27th Nov 2013 at 9:20 PM by Nysha
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EDIT (by MTS2 Staff)
Unfortunately, as some of you already know, Andi8104 has prematurely deceased, and therefore the LotExpander is no more supported by him.
Luckily, some skillful users, Sorcerer and Mootilda, decided to continue developing this project.

The last (outdated) version released by Andi it attached to this post, and works with any game up to OFB included.

The current "latest version" is the Lot Expander by Mootilda; read the additional info and game compatibility at Mootilda's thread.

In any case keep in mind that the Lot Expander (any version) can break your lots, and damage you neighborhoods; therefore, if you don't make a backup of your neighborhood and suffer damages due to a (mis)usage of the Lot Expander, don't blame anyone but yourself


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(Original post by Andi8104)

First of all: sorry for my bad English. And at all the developers of you: sorry for the terrible coding.

Release 1.2.1:

A few bug fixes for the 'over the road' option.
E.g. the problem with the portals reported by Numenor is fixed.


Release 1.2:

Some bugs are fixed:

The problem with the 'flying' roofs, reported by TheCoffeeBear is solved now.

Sometimes there where some locked tiles on extended lots, so you can't build on it. This is fixed now.

Sometimes your Sims was buried or stick into walls after enlarging. This problem is not really fixed (The OBJT resources of the Sims are too complex for me, I think), but it is now easier to solve it. Just break up the actually action of such Sims and wait a few seconds. Now they were normally playable.

New Features:

You'll find a new Checkbox:

Checking it will bring you the following message, witch explains the functionality:


Now you also can choose the Next button without changing a value:



Release 1.1:
Now you can choose the direction of enlarging the lot.


Release 1.0:
I've written a little program to enlarge lots after building/playing:

LotExpander

It allows you to expand lots up to size 6 x 6 with a few mouse clicks (see pictures below). You can change both, Width and Height, in one Cycle. LotExpander offers English and German language GUI. You do no longer need SimPE or my Word macro for enlarging Lot. The problem described in post #8 is solved.

You need Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 to run LotExpander!

The program is using some DLLs from SimPE (included in Setup).
Big thanks for Quaxi for this and his whole work for the community!

LotExpander is released under GPL
You also can get the source code here.

Small Lots:
In attachment of this Post you'll find a complete set of Nx1 residential lots (N = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).
These Lots are created with base game, so they will work with or without any EP.
If you are interested on Nx1 community lots, have a look at this post from MaryLou: #100
Moreover, there are some 1xN residential lots by Nightguy82 at Post #339
Now everyone can create lots of his/her wish size with LotExpander.
Operating System: Windows
Utility Type: Save Editors
Plugin Type: Not Applicable

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
LotExpanderSource 1.2.1.zip

Size: 56.6 KB · Downloads: 8,045 · 29th Aug 2006
56.6 KB 8,045 29th Aug 2006
LotExpanderSetup 1.2.1.zip

Size: 625.3 KB · Downloads: 13,127 · 29th Aug 2006
625.3 KB 13,127 29th Aug 2006
X_x_1.rar

Size: 534.3 KB · Downloads: 8,673 · 24th Aug 2006
534.3 KB 8,673 24th Aug 2006
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
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2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
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One horse disagreer of the Apocalypse
#76 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 1:01 PM
As to the question of lot shrinking, again the way I envisage using it I would not want anything redrawn to fit the smaller lot, I would want to use it as a trick to manipulate the way the lot was shown on the neighbourhood in situ. The sort of things I am now experimenting with have nothing to do with the "oops I want to extend this house but the lot is too small" scenario you might have had in mind when you wrote it. Far more to do things with the neighbourhood layout that were not previously possible
Lab Assistant
#77 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 1:31 PM
Thanks for the help CoffeeBear - I got it and will try it out tomorrow.

Too bad about not being able to shrink the lots - I'll have to try Inge's overlapping method instead.

And thanks again Andi for making this!
Field Researcher
#78 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 2:58 PM Last edited by MaryLou : 24th Aug 2006 at 8:42 PM. Reason: Update
Hi
Thanks Andi for your work !

I converted the small lots in community lots 1x1 - 2x1 and made a custom icon that show-up in the lot catalog to find them better



The community lots requered OFB, they don't requered FFS.

New download on post #100 . All th sizes compatible with, or without, any EP.

If you like my creations, you may consider to make a little donation to support my site and my modding activity.
MaryLou's Sims 2 World - MaryLou Sims 2 Forum (Italiano)
Instructor
#79 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 3:40 PM
You cannot have a functional residential lot with only one street tile (carpool issue). Business lots DO work.
Mad Poster
#80 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 5:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andi8104
...
In attachment of this Post you'll find a complete set of X x 1 lots (X = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).
These Lots are created with base game, so they will work with or without any EP.
...


I've been thinking if I can make them under the base game worrying...

Really big thanks for making and sharing them...
Field Researcher
#81 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 6:19 PM
maybe i've got a bug or something like that ?


on the picture you see,
lot 1x1 in position 1 is OK and placeable
lot 1x1 in position 2 is OK and placeable
lot 2x1 isn't placeable
Test Subject
#82 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 6:23 PM
Andi,
The house I used is...

SIms In The City - House #5
this is one of eedgan beautiful homes.


Ok some background inforamation to reproduce effects.
  1. The Familiy had just moved in. Male Female and two girls, dought that matters.
  1. The two Adults were in the driveway last save before i used your tool.
  1. I extended the property back and right *ONLY* till it would not extend no more.

Finially things are getting setup.
eMail me [email protected]
or visit RepublicOfTheSims.com or SimsSecretSociety.com for my upcoming line of stuff.
Test Subject
#83 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 6:54 PM Last edited by TheCoffeeBear : 22nd Aug 2006 at 7:03 PM. Reason: update
Lot Expander 1.1 Mirror.

no need for approval.
no need to enter code.
no need to register.

LotExpanderSetup_1.1.zip

I will upload new versions as they are created, and I can access them.
this thread is marked as home page, unless it moves.

Finially things are getting setup.
eMail me [email protected]
or visit RepublicOfTheSims.com or SimsSecretSociety.com for my upcoming line of stuff.
Lab Assistant
#84 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 8:53 PM
Where do I get Netframe 2 from as Netframe 1 came with my computer?

Thanks
Test Subject
Original Poster
#85 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 10:00 PM
Thanks to all of you, for your replies.

MaryLou

Nice job!
Thanks.


TheCoffeeBear

Ditto!
I'll try it with this lot.


Kiwianagirl

You can get Microsoft .NET Framework here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...dd-aab15c5e04f5


Inge

I think this is something you looking for:


But I've actually some problems with this. E.g.:


I'll try to solve them.

Andi
One horse disagreer of the Apocalypse
#86 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 10:10 PM
Well I don't mind too much if there is a slight oddness in neighbourhood view, as long as it looks ok while playing the lot. I mean it's still obvious where the road is meant to be, as opposed to when the road was somewhere different altogether after it moved forward
Test Subject
Original Poster
#87 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 10:20 PM
But another problem is:
You cant' replace the lot, because the game adds a street then. So you can't share such lots.
One horse disagreer of the Apocalypse
#88 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 10:34 PM
Well as I say, my main interest in this is to change how the lots are laid out on my neighbourhood. I don't think I would attempt to share one made that unconventionally. Maybe it needs to be an alternative option or even a complete separate tool to make lots where the road doesn't move.
Test Subject
Original Poster
#89 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 10:46 PM
Ok,
in next release you'll have the option to do this.
Lab Assistant
#90 Old 22nd Aug 2006 at 11:14 PM
Quote:
In attachment of this Post you'll find a complete set of X x 1 lots (X = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).


Thank you and I will get them as soon as they are approved.

Quote:
You can get Microsoft .NET Framework here:


Thank you
Test Subject
#91 Old 23rd Aug 2006 at 1:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jordi
You cannot have a functional residential lot with only one street tile (carpool issue). Business lots DO work.


Jordi, exactly how bad will the carpool issues be? Will there just be some minor graphical problems or will the lot crash alltogether?

I am free of all prejudices; I hate everyone equally. ~ SS ~
Test Subject
Original Poster
#92 Old 23rd Aug 2006 at 6:48 PM
A new Release of LotExpander: 1.2

It comes with some bug fixes and 2 new features.

PS: The Can't wait link: http://rapidshare.de/files/30484504...up_1.2.zip.html
Mad Poster
#93 Old 23rd Aug 2006 at 11:06 PM
I have an error :
details :
Quote:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at SimPe.Packages.File.Read(IPackedFileDescriptor pfd)
at LotExpander.Portale..ctor(IPackageFile LotPackage, IPackedFileDescriptor MOBJTDescriptor)
at LotExpander.LotExpander.ZuScreen4()
at LotExpander.LotExpander.WeiterButton_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
LotExpander
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/LotExpander.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
simpe.package
Assembly Version: 1.0.2370.36226
Win32 Version: 1.0.2370.36226
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/simpe.package.DLL
----------------------------------------
simpe.interfaces
Assembly Version: 1.0.2370.36224
Win32 Version: 1.0.2370.36224
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/simpe.interfaces.DLL
----------------------------------------
simpe.helper
Assembly Version: 0.59.10.36224
Win32 Version: 0.59.10.36224
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/simpe.helper.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
simpe.clst
Assembly Version: 1.0.2370.36225
Win32 Version: 1.0.2370.36225
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/simpe.clst.DLL
----------------------------------------
simpe.commonhandler
Assembly Version: 1.0.2370.36224
Win32 Version: 1.0.2370.36224
CodeBase: file:///J:/Program%20Files/LotExpander/simpe.commonhandler.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.


-the length (front/back) of the old size is increased a 2x2 is showed 3x2
-but it works

again thousand of thanks

You know a site allowing re-upload of free build/buy stuff in lots ? Help us to update the list !

* Plus j'échoue plus je m'approche de la réussite
* The more I fail the more I approach the success

(Lao patul MMVI AD)
Forum Resident
#94 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 3:13 AM
MAX3D:

I noticed the same thing (it's not a bug in your game) It's somethign odd with lots that have been binned, any lot. A lot template can be laid right next to an exisitng lot while a lot from the bin has 'issues'. Weird, isn't it?
Test Subject
Original Poster
#95 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 8:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patul
I have an error :
details :...

-the length (front/back) of the old size is increased a 2x2 is showed 3x2
-but it works

again thousand of thanks

Thanks for reporting this.
Can you please send me the lot-package where you get the error from the directory "\Neighborhoods\NXXX\Lots\"? (Don't pack it as Sims2Pack in game)
Andi8104 @ arcor.de (delete the blanks)
I'll analyze it, 'cause with this error you get some problems with the portals (teleporters).

All lots are shown with a 'false' size. It's the same as if you use in game the LotInfo.

You have to add 1 (or in lot info 10) for the road.
Field Researcher
#96 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 9:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutantbunny
MAX3D:
I noticed the same thing (it's not a bug in your game) It's somethign odd with lots that have been binned, any lot. A lot template can be laid right next to an exisitng lot while a lot from the bin has 'issues'. Weird, isn't it?


Weird, alot... i think this game is alive
The ModFather
retired moderator
#97 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 7:31 PM
Some odd and funny issues...

I've started with a 2x1 residential lot (with a sim living in), I've built a small house and placed a driveway. Then, I've expanded the lot across the road, to a 2x3 size (including the road).

I've entered again the lot, and finished building the house across the road: here is a snapshot in neighborhood view.

(The yellow car is a self-moving neighborhood car, while the white one is an owned car, parked in the driveway).

Soon I've noticed that both the pedestrian portals and the car portal (at least for the NPC cars) have been displaced:



Another thing that I've noticed is that now, when I pick the driveway to move it aroud, it automatically turns at 90°, and obviously it is not possible to place it down any more:



I'm aware that the "expand across the road" feature is still at an early stage, and the results can be odd; so, don't consider this as a bug report, but just as an oddity I wanted to share with the other users.
Screenshots
Test Subject
Original Poster
#98 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 7:48 PM
Numenor
Thanks for your reply.

I see, there is some work to do with this feature.

BTW: So i can' t PM you, I'm finished to clean up my attachments.
One horse disagreer of the Apocalypse
#99 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 7:52 PM
Anyway you have restimulated my fun in making my neighbourhoods so it's all good :D
Field Researcher
#100 Old 24th Aug 2006 at 8:35 PM Last edited by MaryLou : 15th Jan 2007 at 10:49 AM. Reason: Delete old attachments and change links
Well, as some requests, I made a new size for community-lots with "custom icon" . These are "really" community lots, not converted from residential, and they are created in the base game so they are compatible with any EP.
Size available: 1x1 - 2x1 - 3x1 - 4x1 -5x1 -6x1

Thanks to Andi for having helped me

Mini community lots horizontal and vertical sizes

Mini residential lots horizontal and vertical sizes

If you like my creations, you may consider to make a little donation to support my site and my modding activity.
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