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HomeworkSometimesFasterFun

by Jenflower Posted 15th Dec 2004 at 10:57 PM - Updated 19th Mar 2009 at 7:11 AM by Jenflower : Apartment Life version uploaded again after server crash
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HomeworkSometimesFasterFun - available for TS2, UNI, NL, OFB, Pets, Seasons, Bon Voyage, FreeTime and Apartment Life. Please read the installation instructions and select the correct file for your game.

January 11, 2009: The Apartment Life version is available. Feel free to download and test it in your game.

This versions is still considered to be 'in testing.'
I have tried it and it seems to be working without any issues. There is a chance, though, that I may have missed testing certain scenarios, so if you notice anything odd, please let me know! (This goes for the previous versions, too!) Thanks!

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My purpose for creating this mod was to make school and homework for the teen and child slightly more realistic in the game. Please remember that this mod does NOT affect Young Adults in college.

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MOD FEATURES

Homework Sometimes
1: My favorite feature...homework will only be given occasionally. When the student gets off the bus and checks their report card, you will then see a message appear in the top right corner of the screen ONLY if the child has NO homework for that day.

Faster
1: Students with an A-, A, or A+ will finish their homework faster.
2: The homework speed increase is dependent upon the student's grade. An A- will get a 1 point boost, an A will get 2 points and an A+ will get 3 points.
(Note: Maxis also already has a number of speed boosts pre-built into the game - I will describe them below in the 'MAXIS SPEED BOOSTS' section)

Fun
1: Serious Students (those with their Playfulness Attribute of 4 bars or less) will get a raise in their Fun Motive while at school AND while doing homework. Nerds!
2: Any student who is being helped with homework will find that homework is not such a fun-sucker and their social bar will also get a tiny boost. (Fun won't necessarily go up, but you will notice that the bar won't shoot down as rapidly as it usually does).

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MAXIS SPEED BOOSTS
For those who do not realize, the game already has some homework speed boosts built in. I have not touched or tweaked their numbers. For those of you who are interested in the tiny details, I have provided you with the information below. I believe I have covered everything accurately.
All Games
1 - There is a 3 point speed boost only when a student is being helped with their homework.
2 - There is a permanent 3 point speed boost after a student has learned how to study. (Check their memories to see if they have learned to study)
Seasons Only
3 - There is a 1 point speed boost when a student does their homework in the autumn (fall) season. Note: You will see fall leaves swirling around their head as they do their homework during this season.
4 - There is an extra speed boost if your Sim drinks the homemade apple juice before doing homework. (I haven't tried this in-game yet, so I'm not sure exactly what happens or how it works - I just know that it happens)

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EXTRA NOTES
1 - The fun increase for serious students does not begin until the little blue progress bar begins to rise. The initial few minutes of homework are not fun, but as the homework progresses, so does the fun.
2 - The student's grade will continue to rise even though they don't get homework. Grades are more affected by undone homework and missing school. Mood might affect this, too. Any undone homework *will* affect their grade. Make sure they finish all the homework they receive.
3 - For those of you who are curious, a Sim will usually complete their homework in about 2 Sim hours when they do not have any speed boosts at all.
4 - When all the boosts are available (Learned to study, Autumn, A+, etc.) the Sim should be able to complete their homework in about 30 minutes or less.

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INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS:
Download the correct zip file at the end of this post.
The "BASE to PETS" file is for anyone who has one or all of the expansion packs up to and including Pets.
If you also have Seasons installed, you must use the "SEASONS" file instead.
If you also have Bon Voyage installed, you must use the "BON" file.
If you also have FreeTime installed, you must use the "FREE" file.
If you also have Apartment Life installed, you must use the "AL" file.

Make sure ALL other versions of the 'homeworksometimes' hack are taken out of your downloads folder.
Save the and 'unzip' it with a program like WinZip.
Put the .package file in your Downloads folder.
(C:/My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2/Downloads)
Load the game and test it out.

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March 1st, 2007: I noticed a month ago that TwoJeffs decided to add their own features to my mod and redistribute it there. I just want you to be sure that when you come to me with questions about the "homeworksometimes" hack, that you are asking about the one I uploaded here and not the one they decided to alter and redistribute. Do NOT use their version of my 'homeworksometimes' mod when you use the one you downloaded from here. The mod here is the most recent version and the only version of this mod that I support. Thanks!

Thank you so much to everyone who has given their feedback!
Let me know if I missed any compatibility issues. Have fun!

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
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Jenflower - Homeworksometimes - AL.zip

Size: 23.1 KB · Downloads: 7,055 · 19th Mar 2009
23.1 KB 7,055 19th Mar 2009
Jenflower - Homeworksometimes - FREE.zip

Size: 23.2 KB · Downloads: 2,557 · 4th Oct 2008
23.2 KB 2,557 4th Oct 2008
Jenflower - Homeworksometimes - BON.zip

Size: 23.3 KB · Downloads: 1,318 · 4th Oct 2008
23.3 KB 1,318 4th Oct 2008
Jenflower - Homeworksometimes - SEASONS.zip

Size: 22.9 KB · Downloads: 8,185 · 5th Mar 2007
22.9 KB 8,185 5th Mar 2007
Jenflower - Homeworksometimes - BASE to PETS.zip

Size: 20.5 KB · Downloads: 6,722 · 5th Mar 2007
20.5 KB 6,722 5th Mar 2007
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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Field Researcher
#226 Old 17th Aug 2008 at 5:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimsBaby01
Does anyone know if this works for Free Time?


Two Jeffs has a version updated for FT which also eliminates the A+ cheering (which gets really annonying, really fast). You'll find it under School Bus/Bring Friend & Homework Hacks here http://www.simbology.com/smf/index....sg23.html#msg23

"If..." a TS2 epic about friendship, romance, break-ups, make-ups, misunderstandings, fights, quite a bit of silliness and a little bit of rock and roll."
Test Subject
Original Poster
#227 Old 20th Aug 2008 at 3:23 AM Last edited by Jenflower : 3rd Sep 2008 at 4:31 AM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilikefishfood
Two Jeffs has a version updated for FT which also eliminates the A+ cheering (which gets really annonying, really fast). You'll find it under School Bus/Bring Friend & Homework Hacks here http://www.simbology.com/smf/index....sg23.html#msg23


Well...okay, then.
I guess for those wanting a FreeTime version, the easiest thing is to have everyone use the version from TwoJeffs. (This is a bit of a thorny issue for me, to tell you the truth...)

I should make it clear that their hack is based entirely on my work, but does not have the exact functionality as my HomeworkSometimes mod. So for those who are still interested in having a mod with the the specific features I listed in my mod description, you can continue to download and use the mod I created and uploaded here.

My newest file is a Bon Voyage compatible version to be tested.
As long as that seems to work for everyone, I will then provide a FreeTime version. (My initial check, however, seems to indicate that the BonVoyage version might actually work with FreeTime, too, if you have both installed. Feel free to test it out and let me know how it works for you.)

UPDATE: I hope to have Apartment Life by the middle of October. In the meantime, I just purchased FreeTime and hope to have that version up by the end of the week.

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Test Subject
#228 Old 2nd Sep 2008 at 6:10 AM
Any news about it working for Apartment Life?
Instructor
#229 Old 24th Sep 2008 at 1:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenflower
UPDATE: I hope to have Apartment Life by the middle of October. In the meantime, I just purchased FreeTime and hope to have that version up by the end of the week.


Hey Jen!

Just wanted to drop a line first of all, to say thanks for this amazing mod: I think it may have been the first ever hack I downloaded for the sims 2, and by far, it has been my favorite. I've never, ever (knock wood) had problems with it and the benefits for my sims have been extraordinary. Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you!

I also wanted to know if you've had any luck at all with a Free Time version. I am totally not pressuring you (as you just posted only three days ago about the update); I just wanted to offer my support and enthusiasm over it. I completely choose your hack over any other as, like I said, not only is it my favorite but I've never had any problems with it.

Take all the time you need! I just wanted you to know that there are still huge fans of your work out there, and that we'll all wait with baited breath for anything you have to offer.

Thanks again, Jen! You rock!
Test Subject
Original Poster
#230 Old 24th Sep 2008 at 8:10 PM Last edited by Jenflower : 24th Sep 2008 at 8:39 PM.
Hi Kasey - thanks for the message!

Well, I have FreeTime (FT) sitting here waiting to be installed. I've waited a little while longer just to see if anyone came back to thread with any bug information. Luckily, that hasn't happened.

So before I install FT, I want to just test to make sure the Bon Voyage (BV) version is doing everything it's supposed to be doing. (ex: making sure all the speed boosts are working, making sure the serious students are getting their fun boost, etc.)
While the BV mod doesn't seem to be breaking anyone's game, I want to make absolutely sure it's doing what I want it to do. Truth be told, I haven't actually played the game or modded in over a year, so I'm trying to get my bearings again.

In any event, the BV testing task will (finally) be attempted and completed tonight. I will then install FreeTime, compare any changes that may have been made between BV and FT and make adjustments to the mod, if necessary. Ideally, I won't have to change a thing.

I know the mod is "In Testing" but I hate putting something up that doesn't work right the first time, so forgive my turtle-like progress.

I'll definitely take my time to make sure it's right. Thanks so much for the message of support and enthusiasm!

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Test Subject
Original Poster
#231 Old 4th Oct 2008 at 4:24 AM
Okay - new post for everyone.
I have an updated Bon Voyage version for you today. Please download and replace the file if you are using the version I uploaded before today's date.

I also have a FreeTime version for all you, too.

Feel free to test and use the appropriate files in your games. Definitely let me know they don't seem to be working as they should.

Remember that a normal Sim without any speed boosts will take about 2 hours to finish their homework. So, any student with an A- or above will start getting mini-speed boosts. Usually 15 minutes to an hour will be cut off of their normal homework time. Try to get someone to help them with their homework and it will go even faster...plus they get a slight Fun and Social boost, too.

If you are feeling adventurous, try the FreeTime one in Apartment Life. I won't have that expansion pack for another month or so, so you'll have to wait for the official update, but there really were no changes (as far as I can tell) between BV and FT, so I am hoping it will be the same for AP.

Thanks everyone and enjoy!

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Mad Poster
#232 Old 4th Dec 2008 at 3:29 PM
Hi JenFlower,

Thanks for this Mod!!! I just ran the HCDU and it found this:

*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Sub - Do Homework - Increment & Exit?
Group ID: 0x7FF4DCC2
Instance ID: 0x00001021
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\X-zHacks-FT\ijHomeworkSkillsLikeA_BV.package
\downloads\X-zHacks-FT\Jenflower - homeworksometimes - FREE.package

Is this a REAL conflict? Do I need to choose between mods? Or, will they both work?
Thanks!

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Test Subject
#233 Old 31st Dec 2008 at 6:37 PM
hi jenflower ty for the homework hack i have tried this with my apartmentlife and it seems to be working ok love the fact when they get to A+ they don't allways get homework this allso works with the auto do homwork hack.

well my kids who are not A+ get homework they auto do it at 7pm so your hack is working with my other and with AL ty very much
Test Subject
Original Poster
#234 Old 4th Jan 2009 at 9:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CatherineTCJD
Hi JenFlower,

Thanks for this Mod!!! I just ran the HCDU and it found this:

*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Sub - Do Homework - Increment & Exit?
Group ID: 0x7FF4DCC2
Instance ID: 0x00001021
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\X-zHacks-FT\ijHomeworkSkillsLikeA_BV.package
\downloads\X-zHacks-FT\Jenflower - homeworksometimes - FREE.package

Is this a REAL conflict? Do I need to choose between mods? Or, will they both work?
Thanks!


Hi - I'm back again to do the final alteration for Sims Apartment Life.
I haven't touched all of this in months so I have to take another few days to catch up on how to do this again.
Okay, I'm not familiar with the Homework Skills mod that seems to be conflicting with mine. The letters "ij" in the beginning makes me think it might be from Inge Jones. She did have a mod at some point that definitely conflicted with mine.
That particular subroutine (Sub - Do Homework - Increment & Exit?) makes the homework go faster, so if her mod is in with mine and loads after mine, it would disable that feature of my mod. The other feature of my mod - the one that gives or doesn't give homework will still work.

So, my guess is that the conflict would disable the "faster" portion of my mod, but not the "sometimes" portion.

Quote:
hi jenflower ty for the homework hack i have tried this with my apartmentlife and it seems to be working ok love the fact when they get to A+ they don't allways get homework this allso works with the auto do homwork hack.

Thank you for the update. I'm going to check it all now and make sure it works and upload the official AL release. It sounds like there shouldn't be any changes, so that's good. I am so far gone from the Sims gaming world that it's tough for me to pop back in and upgrade these mods.
I miss my Sims.

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Test Subject
Original Poster
#235 Old 12th Jan 2009 at 2:15 AM
The Apartment Life version is up. I checked it out in my game and it seems to be working fine. All speed boosts and mood boosts are working as usual and the homework message appears when it should.

If you see anything happening that shouldn't be happening or vice versa, please let me know.

If everything goes well, this will be my last post for this thread. Thank you all and I apologize for the delay in my updates. I haven't played "The Sims 2" since the Pets expansion pack. I purchased the extra expansion packs mainly to finish this mod...and just in case I would find the time to play again. Alas, that hasn't happened yet.

In any case, thanks for the support everyone. Happy Simming!

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Test Subject
#236 Old 18th Mar 2009 at 11:59 PM
Thanks this is awesome

The AL version is missing. Could you please post it here?
Test Subject
Original Poster
#237 Old 19th Mar 2009 at 7:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chi_cchick
Thanks this is awesome

The AL version is missing. Could you please post it here?

The AL version is available again for download.

"That probably would have sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."
Test Subject
#238 Old 5th May 2009 at 2:44 AM
What about Mansion and Garden Stuff? For many purposes, that gets treated as another expansion. Will the AL version work with M&G?
Test Subject
#239 Old 17th Nov 2009 at 9:53 PM
you rock this is much more realistic than ea's version.. thanks..
Test Subject
#240 Old 18th Dec 2009 at 3:08 AM
This is really neat, I love this! Thanks so much!
Lab Assistant
#241 Old 28th Jan 2010 at 5:03 PM
I am updating all my mods, searching through the whole glut, updating the ones I have, and finding new stuff too, like this. Just wanted to let you know that I've had the TwoJeffs version for a while now. I didn't know they "borrowed" the idea from you, and I really like the added features yours provides. I"m dl'ing yours right now, and deleting theirs. Thank you very much!
Field Researcher
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Test Subject
#242 Old 6th May 2010 at 3:02 AM
this is probably a stupid question but do i need to download both the base to pets version and the AL version? i have all sp and eps and will it work with m and g?
Field Researcher
#243 Old 7th Oct 2010 at 6:56 AM
Thank you so much! My Sim children can actually have fun after school now!

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Mad Poster
THANKS POST
#244 Old 8th Apr 2013 at 7:05 PM
I wish this mod had been available in real life when I was a teenager! Now my Sim teens can have a lot more fun than I had!

I'm not sure about realistic. I seem to recall about 3 hours homework every night. I think I would have enjoyed it if I could have done it in 30 minutes!

Thanks Jen.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#245 Old 22nd Jul 2013 at 12:34 AM
Thanks, homework is an annoying part of child/teenage Sim life.
Instructor
THANKS POST
#246 Old 21st Jul 2014 at 3:41 PM
Thank you, this looks great! It sounds like you did a wonderful job balancing it out. Look forward to trying it out. :)
Scholar
THANKS POST
#247 Old 8th May 2015 at 5:52 PM
I'm using this mod for a long time now and it's superb!
Thank you for making such a wonderful mod. Children and teenager need time so socialize!
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